Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that
were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?

On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
> Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that
> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
> reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
> Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?

The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been
transported all over Russia as slave labour.

Horrific.

lørdag den 30. april 2022 kl. 15.15.46 UTC+2 skrev Clifford Heath:
> On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
> > Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that
> > were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
> > reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
> > Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?
> The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been
> transported all over Russia as slave labour.
>
> Horrific.

Russia has population decrease and brain drain from people leaving, seems like
they are attempting to help that by kidnapping Ukrainians

On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath
<no.spam@please.net> wrote in
<16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd386f@news.thecubenet.com>:

>On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
>> Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that
>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
>> reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
>> Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?
>
>The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been
>transported all over Russia as slave labor.
>
>Horrific.

Depends, what are your 'best sources?'

In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.

This is an other example of the US mindset:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

After banning Trump... and right wing media, little ByeThen and his corrupt son, your new dictator and war criminal,
is at it again.
He (or rather his puppeteers) will likely -maybe even before the midterm- come up with a reason to lock up or enlist most 'merricans, triggering a nuculear war is one way,
then re-Build back better (if anyone left).
The man is a perfect instrument of the US deep state and a danger to humanity as he is just a puppet without a working brain ...
He is likely not even aware what he is doing...

On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath
><no.spam@please.net> wrote in
><16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd386f@news.thecubenet.com>:
>
>>On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
>>> Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that
>>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
>>> reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
>>> Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?
>>
>>The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been
>>transported all over Russia as slave labor.
>>
>>Horrific.
>
>Depends, what are your 'best sources?'
>
>In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.
>

And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
Germans didn't.

--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 08:54:10 -0700) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<fomq6h1nej07vupidm20mtrl0b9hp0tcld@4ax.com>:

>On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath
>><no.spam@please.net> wrote in
>><16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd386f@news.thecubenet.com>:
>>
>>>On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
>>>> Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that
>>>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
>>>> reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
>>>> Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?
>>>

>>>The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been
>>>transported all over Russia as slave labor.
>>>
>>>Horrific.
>>
>>Depends, what are your 'best sources?'
>>
>>In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.
>>
>
>And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
>Germans didn't.

Not the same, those were prisoners of war.
What are your 'best sources'? CNN?

On 04/30/2022 09:54 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath
>> <no.spam@please.net> wrote in
>> <16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd386f@news.thecubenet.com>:
>>
>>> On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
>>>> Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that
>>>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
>>>> reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
>>>> Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?
>>>
>>> The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been
>>> transported all over Russia as slave labor.
>>>
>>> Horrific.
>>
>> Depends, what are your 'best sources?'
>>
>> In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.
>>
>
> And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
> Germans didn't.
>
>
>

Have you ever been to Manzanar or Tule? Warm is relative. Lucky for them
the US infrastructure wasn't destroyed so there was no drastic shortage
of food despite the rationing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andersonville_Prison

That's what happens when you're losing a war. One contributing factor
was the Union's refusal to exchange prisoners, which was common at the
time. The Union calculated they had a lot more manpower to draw upon so
there was no benefit to get their prisoners back while putting
Confederate soldiers back in the field.

On 1/05/2022 1:54 am, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath
>> <no.spam@please.net> wrote in
>> <16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd386f@news.thecubenet.com>:
>>
>>> On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
>>>> Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that
>>>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
>>>> reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
>>>> Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?
>>>
>>> The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been
>>> transported all over Russia as slave labor.
>>>
>>> Horrific.
>>
>> Depends, what are your 'best sources?'
>>
>> In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.
>>
>
> And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
> Germans didn't.
>
>
>

Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
layer of tar paper.

Also they were required to dispose / divest of assets within a few days
of receiving a notice that they were going to the camps - far too short
a time to arrange a proper sale for their homes at a fair price. As a
result (although it may not have been the intention) the US achieved the
result of pauperizing the interned Japanese - the same as the Nazis did
to the German Jews.

It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 7:47:03 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

> This is an other example of the US mindset:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

Yeah, that was excessive, and we did have some cleanup to do.
In 1954, McCarthy was censured for his excess.
Anti-communism wasn't entirely based on fantasy concerns, though.
USSR killed many thousands of prisoners and 'suspects' in the invasion of Poland,
Katyn forest being their gravesite. They admitted it, in 1990.

David Eather wrote:
================
>
> Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
> hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
> layer of tar paper.
>
** You just made that up.

See pic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iN5-RgDlyc

Any tar paper used acted as exterior water proofing.

> It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.

** You realise the camps protected Japanese men, women & children from retaliations by US citizens.
The actions of the Japanese military in China and throughout WW2 were barbaric, particularly in relation to captured civilians.
The internment camps were a necessary measure.
FYI:

Re-writing history is the favorite sport of ultra woke imbeciles.

...... Phil

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 11:27:33 PM UTC-4, David Eather wrote:
> On 1/05/2022 1:54 am, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> > On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> > <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath
> >> <no....@please.net> wrote in
> >> <16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd...@news.thecubenet.com>:
> >>
> >>> On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
> >>>> Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that
> >>>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
> >>>> reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
> >>>> Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?
> >>>
> >>> The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been
> >>> transported all over Russia as slave labor.
> >>>
> >>> Horrific.
> >>
> >> Depends, what are your 'best sources?'
> >>
> >> In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.
> >>
> >
> > And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
> > Germans didn't.
> >
> >
> >
> Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
> hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
> layer of tar paper.
>
> Also they were required to dispose / divest of assets within a few days
> of receiving a notice that they were going to the camps - far too short
> a time to arrange a proper sale for their homes at a fair price. As a
> result (although it may not have been the intention) the US achieved the
> result of pauperizing the interned Japanese - the same as the Nazis did
> to the German Jews.
>
> It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.

How can it be shameful when it was in accordance with the Constitution? The Supreme Court said so at the time. They are never wrong by definition.

Live by the rules, die by the rules.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
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On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 12:56:19 AM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 7:47:03 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>
> > This is an other example of the US mindset:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism
> Yeah, that was excessive, and we did have some cleanup to do.
> In 1954, McCarthy was censured for his excess.
> Anti-communism wasn't entirely based on fantasy concerns, though.
> USSR killed many thousands of prisoners and 'suspects' in the invasion of Poland,
> Katyn forest being their gravesite. They admitted it, in 1990.

WTF does that have to do with McCarthy? His actions had little to do with real concerns about Communism. It was a political ploy, much like the the current situation on our southern border. Yes, we have a problem there, but mostly politicians use it to gain political advantage rather than actually solving any problems.

McCarthy did not act alone. It was a popular movement even within Congress.. It only fell out of favor once the Supreme Court ruled against several of the laws enacted and it was exposed as a very harmful political ploy.

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 1:33:24 AM UTC-4, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> David Eather wrote:
> ================
> >
> > Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
> > hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
> > layer of tar paper.
> >
> ** You just made that up.
>
> See pic:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iN5-RgDlyc
>
> Any tar paper used acted as exterior water proofing.
> > It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.
> ** You realise the camps protected Japanese men, women & children from retaliations by US citizens.
> The actions of the Japanese military in China and throughout WW2 were barbaric, particularly in relation to captured civilians.
> The internment camps were a necessary measure.

Yes, it was necessary to cause them to become impoverished and live in the equivalent of poverty. It's not like we could possibly protect US citizens in their homes. It's not possible to lock up people who were actually breaking the law.

Sir, you are the king of convoluted reasoning.

> FYI:
>
> Re-writing history is the favorite sport of ultra woke imbeciles.

Being an imbecile is your favorite pastime.

--

Rick C.

-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

On 5/1/2022 10:06 AM, Ricky wrote:
> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 1:33:24 AM UTC-4, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
>> David Eather wrote:
>> ================
>>>
>>> Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
>>> hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
>>> layer of tar paper.
>>>
>> ** You just made that up.
>>
>> See pic:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iN5-RgDlyc
>>
>> Any tar paper used acted as exterior water proofing.
>>> It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.
>> ** You realise the camps protected Japanese men, women & children from retaliations by US citizens.
>> The actions of the Japanese military in China and throughout WW2 were barbaric, particularly in relation to captured civilians.
>> The internment camps were a necessary measure.
>
> Yes, it was necessary to cause them to become impoverished and live in the equivalent of poverty. It's not like we could possibly protect US citizens in their homes. It's not possible to lock up people who were actually breaking the law.
>
> Sir, you are the king of convoluted reasoning.

"I don't want any of them [persons of Japanese ancestry] here. They are
a dangerous element. There is no way to determine their loyalty... It
makes no difference whether he is an American citizen, he is still a
Japanese. American citizenship does not necessarily determine loyalty...
But we must worry about the Japanese all the time until he is wiped off
the map."

Lieutenant General John L. DeWitt, head of the Western Defense Command &
internment program administrator

>> FYI:
>>
>> Re-writing history is the favorite sport of ultra woke imbeciles.
>
> Being an imbecile is your favorite pastime.
>

On 5/1/2022 1:33 AM, Phil Allison wrote:
> David Eather wrote:
> ================
>>
>> Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
>> hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
>> layer of tar paper.
>>
> ** You just made that up.
>
> See pic:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iN5-RgDlyc
>
> Any tar paper used acted as exterior water proofing.
>
>> It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.
>
> ** You realise the camps protected Japanese men, women & children from retaliations by US citizens.
> The actions of the Japanese military in China and throughout WW2 were barbaric, particularly in relation to captured civilians.
> The internment camps were a necessary measure.
> FYI:
>
> Re-writing history is the favorite sport of ultra woke imbeciles.
>
>
> ..... Phil
>

Re-settlement was hardly a 100% popular idea, but Executive Order 9066
didn't specify what race of people could or couldn't be re-settled, just
persons deemed a threat to national security, from certain geographic areas.

And if you make too much of a fuss about your Japanese neighbor being
re-settled maybe you get re-settled "for your protection" also...

On 1/05/2022 3:33 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> David Eather wrote:
> ================
>>
>> Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
>> hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
>> layer of tar paper.
>>
> ** You just made that up.

No seriously it is true. Ill see if I can find the documentary. I grant
they may have improved the camps later but they were used unfinished,
tar paper only and fairly horrific to start with.

Which should not be surprising considering they were moving a large
number of despised people at very short notice to camps which a few
weeks ago did not exist at all in very desolate areas with no
infrastructure.

>
> See pic:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iN5-RgDlyc
>
> Any tar paper used acted as exterior water proofing.
>
>> It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.
>
> ** You realise the camps protected Japanese men, women & children from retaliations by US citizens.
> The actions of the Japanese military in China and throughout WW2 were barbaric, particularly in relation to captured civilians.
> The internment camps were a necessary measure.

The internment camps may have protected the Japanese from US citizens
retaliations, but that is not why they were made.

Please remember my comments from the recent discussion on dropping the
a-bomb. I am definitely not one eyed pro-Japanese
> FYI:
>
> Re-writing history is the favorite sport of ultra woke imbeciles.
>
>
> ..... Phil
>

As is brushing away the shameful parts.

On 1/05/2022 11:56 pm, Ricky wrote:
> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 11:27:33 PM UTC-4, David Eather wrote:
>> On 1/05/2022 1:54 am, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>> <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath
>>>> <no....@please.net> wrote in
>>>> <16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd...@news.thecubenet.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
>>>>>> Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that
>>>>>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
>>>>>> reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
>>>>>> Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?
>>>>>
>>>>> The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been
>>>>> transported all over Russia as slave labor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Horrific.
>>>>
>>>> Depends, what are your 'best sources?'
>>>>
>>>> In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
>>> Germans didn't.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
>> hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
>> layer of tar paper.
>>
>> Also they were required to dispose / divest of assets within a few days
>> of receiving a notice that they were going to the camps - far too short
>> a time to arrange a proper sale for their homes at a fair price. As a
>> result (although it may not have been the intention) the US achieved the
>> result of pauperizing the interned Japanese - the same as the Nazis did
>> to the German Jews.
>>
>> It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.
>
> How can it be shameful when it was in accordance with the Constitution? The Supreme Court said so at the time. They are never wrong by definition.
>
> Live by the rules, die by the rules.
>

I might be wrong but aren't there a number of amendment to the
constitution? Each amendment says there was something wrong with the
existing constitution (and also says "lets make it better")

Just because you can frame or define a set of actions as legal doesn't
make it moral or even "right" - as each amendment shows.

On 05/01/2022 11:18 AM, David Eather wrote:
> On 1/05/2022 11:56 pm, Ricky wrote:
>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 11:27:33 PM UTC-4, David Eather wrote:
>>> On 1/05/2022 1:54 am, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>>> <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened
>>>>> Clifford Heath
>>>>> <no....@please.net> wrote in
>>>>> <16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd...@news.thecubenet.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
>>>>>>> Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
>>>>>>> reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
>>>>>>> Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> transported all over Russia as slave labor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Horrific.
>>>>>
>>>>> Depends, what are your 'best sources?'
>>>>>
>>>>> In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
>>>> Germans didn't.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
>>> hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
>>> layer of tar paper.
>>>
>>> Also they were required to dispose / divest of assets within a few days
>>> of receiving a notice that they were going to the camps - far too short
>>> a time to arrange a proper sale for their homes at a fair price. As a
>>> result (although it may not have been the intention) the US achieved the
>>> result of pauperizing the interned Japanese - the same as the Nazis did
>>> to the German Jews.
>>>
>>> It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.
>>
>> How can it be shameful when it was in accordance with the
>> Constitution? The Supreme Court said so at the time. They are never
>> wrong by definition.
>>
>> Live by the rules, die by the rules.
>>
>
> I might be wrong but aren't there a number of amendment to the
> constitution? Each amendment says there was something wrong with the
> existing constitution (and also says "lets make it better")
>
> Just because you can frame or define a set of actions as legal doesn't
> make it moral or even "right" - as each amendment shows.

Note that the first ten amendments were necessary before the several
states would even ratify the document... The original intent was to
spruce up the Articles of Confederation not come up with something
entirely different that created the United States out of the several states.

“But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much
is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have
had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to
exist.”

Lysander Spooner

On 05/01/2022 09:45 AM, bitrex wrote:
> On 5/1/2022 1:33 AM, Phil Allison wrote:
>> David Eather wrote:
>> ================
>>>
>>> Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
>>> hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
>>> layer of tar paper.
>>>
>> ** You just made that up.
>>
>> See pic:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iN5-RgDlyc
>>
>> Any tar paper used acted as exterior water proofing.
>>
>>> It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.
>>
>> ** You realise the camps protected Japanese men, women & children from
>> retaliations by US citizens.
>> The actions of the Japanese military in China and throughout WW2
>> were barbaric, particularly in relation to captured civilians.
>> The internment camps were a necessary measure.
>> FYI:
>>
>> Re-writing history is the favorite sport of ultra woke imbeciles.
>>
>>
>> ..... Phil
>>
>
> Re-settlement was hardly a 100% popular idea, but Executive Order 9066
> didn't specify what race of people could or couldn't be re-settled, just
> persons deemed a threat to national security, from certain geographic
> areas.
>
> And if you make too much of a fuss about your Japanese neighbor being
> re-settled maybe you get re-settled "for your protection" also...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Missoula_Internment_Camp

There were few Japanese at the Fort permanently; most were being
processed and moved to other camps. Almost all were Italian citizens.
It's rumored some of the internments jumped the gun before the US was
actually at war.

Quite a few liked the area and stayed after the war.

Unlike the Japanese-Americans who were US citizens, the US did not
intern Italian-American or German-American citizens. If they'd interned
German-Americans they would have had much left to fight a war. They did
play the usual 'freedom fries' game; the family German Shepherd became a
'Police Dog' for the duration.

On 05/01/2022 11:12 AM, David Eather wrote:
> On 1/05/2022 3:33 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>> David Eather wrote:
>> ================
>>>
>>> Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
>>> hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
>>> layer of tar paper.
>>>
>> ** You just made that up.
>
> No seriously it is true. Ill see if I can find the documentary. I grant
> they may have improved the camps later but they were used unfinished,
> tar paper only and fairly horrific to start with.
>
> Which should not be surprising considering they were moving a large
> number of despised people at very short notice to camps which a few
> weeks ago did not exist at all in very desolate areas with no
> infrastructure.

Manzanar is the best preserved of the camps but there aren't many of the
original structures left. Photos show they weren't luxury housing units.
What is left are some of the rock gardens and a memorial that was
erected at the inmate's cemetery in 1943:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3017/2651376815_feb75c34bd_b.jpg

The Kanji loosely translates as 'soul consoling tower'.

Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

> Russia has population decrease and brain drain from people leaving,
> seems like they are attempting to help that by kidnapping Ukrainians

I know! That's why everybody has been riding on Russian rockets to the
space station, for the last fifteen years.

And speaking of the poster being from Germany... Germany foolishly talked
itself into a corner about paying for Russian gas in rubles, now it's too
embarrassed to admit the fact.

Germany destroyed its own nuclear power plants so it could burn more dirty
coal. Now it thinks it can do without Russian gas too.

"Germany can run on windmills and unicorns!"

Speaking of brain drain...

A "holier-than-thou" Australian troll throwing stones at everybody else...

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David Eather <eatREMOVEher@tpg.com.au> wrote:

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> On 1/05/2022 1:54 am, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath
>>> <no.spam@please.net> wrote in
>>> <16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd386f@news.thecubenet.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that
>>>>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
>>>>> reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
>>>>> Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?
>>>>
>>>> The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been
>>>> transported all over Russia as slave labor.
>>>>
>>>> Horrific.
>>>
>>> Depends, what are your 'best sources?'
>>>
>>> In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.
>>>
>>
>> And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
>> Germans didn't.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
> hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
> layer of tar paper.
>
> Also they were required to dispose / divest of assets within a few days
> of receiving a notice that they were going to the camps - far too short
> a time to arrange a proper sale for their homes at a fair price. As a
> result (although it may not have been the intention) the US achieved the
> result of pauperizing the interned Japanese - the same as the Nazis did
> to the German Jews.
>
> It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.
>
>

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 2 May 2022 06:02:36 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t4ns5s$1fq$6@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 57.6% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1179 articles to USENET. Of which 139 have been pure insults and
540 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

jmZzOhMqYM/6

Speaking of another idiot from Australia...

Bozo Bill Sloman, the most frequent troll in this group, is an
attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

"the user has posted under the same name in other places, so not
nym-shifting" (Bozo sucks at logic)

"the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
(Bozo lying)

"the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
(Bozo being weird)

Eddie wants so badly to nym-shift. That's a no-no here, Eddie!

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
John Doe <always.look@message.header> (astraweb)
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

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>
> The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
>
> And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
>> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
>> CLUELESS...
>
> And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
> incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 2 May 2022 06:02:36 -0000
> (UTC) in message-id <t4ns5s$1fq$6@dont-email.me>.
>
> Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
> <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
> (UTC):
>
>> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
>> except insults to this group.
>
> Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
> USENET (**) has been 57.6% of its posts contributing "nothing except
> insults" to USENET.
>
> ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
> least 1179 articles to USENET. Of which 139 have been pure insults and
> 540 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.
>
> jmZzOhMqYM/6
>
>
>