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by: Tom Kunich - Fri, 17 Nov 2023 18:12 UTC

I like Basso steel bikes so I always look at them while I am on Ebay. They recently put a "Basso Loto" on the page that most certainly is NOT a Basso Loto.

This may very well be a perfectly acceptable bike but it has a different fork than Basso used and rather than a seat tube lug, it is welded on.

The fork that they have is a very good fork since I have one of them in pieces right here in the computer room requiring brazing it together. I had intended on using my brothers rig but he got rid of it at some time and can't even remember having it. I tried using propane but it doesn't get hot enough and doesn't have a large enough flame.

There are local people that would put it together but I haven't gotten around to it since I hate driving down into south San Jose.

In any case while this Basso looks like a definite improvement over the latest Basso Loto I had, I don't believe that it is built by Basso at all but probably by a German maker. It appears to probably be better than the last issue of the Basso Loto I would rather they state clearly what is going on.

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by: AMuzi - Fri, 17 Nov 2023 18:20 UTC

On 11/17/2023 12:12 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> I like Basso steel bikes so I always look at them while I am on Ebay. They recently put a "Basso Loto" on the page that most certainly is NOT a Basso Loto.
>
> This may very well be a perfectly acceptable bike but it has a different fork than Basso used and rather than a seat tube lug, it is welded on.
>
> The fork that they have is a very good fork since I have one of them in pieces right here in the computer room requiring brazing it together. I had intended on using my brothers rig but he got rid of it at some time and can't even remember having it. I tried using propane but it doesn't get hot enough and doesn't have a large enough flame.
>
> There are local people that would put it together but I haven't gotten around to it since I hate driving down into south San Jose.
>
> In any case while this Basso looks like a definite improvement over the latest Basso Loto I had, I don't believe that it is built by Basso at all but probably by a German maker. It appears to probably be better than the last issue of the Basso Loto I would rather they state clearly what is going on.

Link to images?
I saw no 63cm Basso Loto on ebay today.
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by: Tom Kunich - Fri, 17 Nov 2023 19:16 UTC

On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 10:21:02 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 11/17/2023 12:12 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > I like Basso steel bikes so I always look at them while I am on Ebay. They recently put a "Basso Loto" on the page that most certainly is NOT a Basso Loto.
> >
> > This may very well be a perfectly acceptable bike but it has a different fork than Basso used and rather than a seat tube lug, it is welded on.
> >
> > The fork that they have is a very good fork since I have one of them in pieces right here in the computer room requiring brazing it together. I had intended on using my brothers rig but he got rid of it at some time and can't even remember having it. I tried using propane but it doesn't get hot enough and doesn't have a large enough flame.
> >
> > There are local people that would put it together but I haven't gotten around to it since I hate driving down into south San Jose.
> >
> > In any case while this Basso looks like a definite improvement over the latest Basso Loto I had, I don't believe that it is built by Basso at all but probably by a German maker. It appears to probably be better than the last issue of the Basso Loto I would rather they state clearly what is going on.
> Link to images?
> I saw no 63cm Basso Loto on ebay today.
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> Andrew Muzi
> a...@yellowjersey.org
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I've been fitted as a 60 cm for several years now.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/196021728161?hash=item2da3ce33a1:g:ACgAAOSwkZZlJEHv&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4BtDhMbbhQOg1X1WpTCj2VuzRWZOWQqgJj3fkTP2%2FY9r46zJK%2F5ae%2BNPKbUh3m%2BwYSJEPSktlnmzSLrfyjemOUiExfsz562NPtKX8QzV5OzOi4h2xa8eYpaAPfHI%2FBrQKPmUBQJYUQqlynhSUbwsUE5llzfoyZJ257O3X5EsaFpUmVFP3KGgZ5JHjhzVHowtQ%2F8MYJvmRaLAmQ2bZBkwmnn6hxT4fI2hTUZf%2BaOOVFvld1iqBqL9Z3MhCQKE7EJdFEiNBQ4BQiN7CuJuh6BcgzqV1kBam%2B3QOQayVS3x%2B2kn%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8q_jKf7Yg

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by: AMuzi - Fri, 17 Nov 2023 19:58 UTC

On 11/17/2023 1:16 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 10:21:02 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 11/17/2023 12:12 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> I like Basso steel bikes so I always look at them while I am on Ebay. They recently put a "Basso Loto" on the page that most certainly is NOT a Basso Loto.
>>>
>>> This may very well be a perfectly acceptable bike but it has a different fork than Basso used and rather than a seat tube lug, it is welded on.
>>>
>>> The fork that they have is a very good fork since I have one of them in pieces right here in the computer room requiring brazing it together. I had intended on using my brothers rig but he got rid of it at some time and can't even remember having it. I tried using propane but it doesn't get hot enough and doesn't have a large enough flame.
>>>
>>> There are local people that would put it together but I haven't gotten around to it since I hate driving down into south San Jose.
>>>
>>> In any case while this Basso looks like a definite improvement over the latest Basso Loto I had, I don't believe that it is built by Basso at all but probably by a German maker. It appears to probably be better than the last issue of the Basso Loto I would rather they state clearly what is going on.
>> Link to images?
>> I saw no 63cm Basso Loto on ebay today.

> I've been fitted as a 60 cm for several years now.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/196021728161?hash=item2da3ce33a1:g:ACgAAOSwkZZlJEHv&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4BtDhMbbhQOg1X1WpTCj2VuzRWZOWQqgJj3fkTP2%2FY9r46zJK%2F5ae%2BNPKbUh3m%2BwYSJEPSktlnmzSLrfyjemOUiExfsz562NPtKX8QzV5OzOi4h2xa8eYpaAPfHI%2FBrQKPmUBQJYUQqlynhSUbwsUE5llzfoyZJ257O3X5EsaFpUmVFP3KGgZ5JHjhzVHowtQ%2F8MYJvmRaLAmQ2bZBkwmnn6hxT4fI2hTUZf%2BaOOVFvld1iqBqL9Z3MhCQKE7EJdFEiNBQ4BQiN7CuJuh6BcgzqV1kBam%2B3QOQayVS3x%2B2kn%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8q_jKf7Yg

That's a real Basso, the final version of Loto before they
went aluminum.

Note details:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/bassofillet.jpg

http://www.yellowjersey.org/GAPBB.JPG

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by: Tom Kunich - Sat, 18 Nov 2023 18:40 UTC

On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 11:58:08 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 11/17/2023 1:16 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 10:21:02 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> >> On 11/17/2023 12:12 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>> I like Basso steel bikes so I always look at them while I am on Ebay. They recently put a "Basso Loto" on the page that most certainly is NOT a Basso Loto.
> >>>
> >>> This may very well be a perfectly acceptable bike but it has a different fork than Basso used and rather than a seat tube lug, it is welded on.
> >>>
> >>> The fork that they have is a very good fork since I have one of them in pieces right here in the computer room requiring brazing it together. I had intended on using my brothers rig but he got rid of it at some time and can't even remember having it. I tried using propane but it doesn't get hot enough and doesn't have a large enough flame.
> >>>
> >>> There are local people that would put it together but I haven't gotten around to it since I hate driving down into south San Jose.
> >>>
> >>> In any case while this Basso looks like a definite improvement over the latest Basso Loto I had, I don't believe that it is built by Basso at all but probably by a German maker. It appears to probably be better than the last issue of the Basso Loto I would rather they state clearly what is going on.
> >> Link to images?
> >> I saw no 63cm Basso Loto on ebay today.
> > I've been fitted as a 60 cm for several years now.
> >
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/196021728161?hash=item2da3ce33a1:g:ACgAAOSwkZZlJEHv&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4BtDhMbbhQOg1X1WpTCj2VuzRWZOWQqgJj3fkTP2%2FY9r46zJK%2F5ae%2BNPKbUh3m%2BwYSJEPSktlnmzSLrfyjemOUiExfsz562NPtKX8QzV5OzOi4h2xa8eYpaAPfHI%2FBrQKPmUBQJYUQqlynhSUbwsUE5llzfoyZJ257O3X5EsaFpUmVFP3KGgZ5JHjhzVHowtQ%2F8MYJvmRaLAmQ2bZBkwmnn6hxT4fI2hTUZf%2BaOOVFvld1iqBqL9Z3MhCQKE7EJdFEiNBQ4BQiN7CuJuh6BcgzqV1kBam%2B3QOQayVS3x%2B2kn%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8q_jKf7Yg
> That's a real Basso, the final version of Loto before they
> went aluminum.
>
> Note details:
> http://www.yellowjersey.org/bassofillet.jpg
>
> http://www.yellowjersey.org/GAPBB.JPG
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> a...@yellowjersey.org
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
I think that I will sell my Land Shark and with the proceeds buy that Loto. The present Land Shark I have is FAR better than those presently for sale on Ebay.

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False Advertising?	Tom Kunich
Re: False Advertising?	AMuzi
Re: False Advertising?	Tom Kunich
Re: False Advertising?	AMuzi
Re: False Advertising?	Tom Kunich