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* Sabine Hossenfelder: "The Speed of Light Is the Same for AllPentcho Valev
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| |   +- Re: Sabine Hossenfelder: "The Speed of Light Is the Same for AllMaciej Wozniak
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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Tue, 30 Aug 2022 09:49 UTC

On Tuesday, 30 August 2022 at 11:31:04 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Mikko <mikko....@iki.fi> wrote:
>
> > On 2022-08-27 23:12:16 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
> >
> > > However, I have shown that with only 17th century astronomy it was already
> > > possible to estimate the speed of light in (interplanetary) vacuum, and to
> > > show that it does not depend on the motion of the observer relative to the
> > > source.
> > >
> > > That refutes your argument.
> >
> > If it were obvious in that the speed of light is independent of the
> > motion of the observer there would have been no point in Michelson-Morley
> > experiment.
> It is not only not obvious, it is extremely counter-intuitive.
> So counter-intuitive in fact
> that no one ever even thought of the possibility
> of a universe with an absolute prefered velocity,
> not even as an obviously untrue 'what if' excercise.
> It took Einstein's genius to see that it must be true.

Poor, mumbling inconsistently idiot.
Of course, real clocks pissed at your reality
enchanting and keep measuring t'=t, just
like all serious clocks always did.

> It is obvious only in retrospect.

Rather - it's obvious only after intensive
brainwashing performed to make it obvious.

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