GET THE FACTS: Border Crisis Continues to Surge
Compared to October 2020, October 2023 saw a 235% rise in illegal immigrant encounters at our Southern Border. 240,988 illegal immigrants were encountered at the U.S.-Mexico border in October including 12 individuals on the terrorist watchlist. Since President Biden took office, there have been 7.8 million illegal immigrant encounters nationwide, 6.5 million illegal crossings at our Southern Border, and 1.7 million known gotaways who evaded U.S. Border Patrol. This is unacceptable. October was the 32nd straight month where illegal immigrant encounters have been higher than even the highest month seen under President Trump. It’s long past time to secure our border.

On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 2:16:45 PM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
> GET THE FACTS: Border Crisis Continues to Surge
> Compared to October 2020, October 2023 saw a 235% rise in illegal immigrant encounters at our Southern Border. 240,988 illegal immigrants were encountered at the U.S.-Mexico border in October including 12 individuals on the terrorist watchlist. Since President Biden took office, there have been 7.8 million illegal immigrant encounters nationwide, 6.5 million illegal crossings at our Southern Border, and 1.7 million known gotaways who evaded U.S.. Border Patrol. This is unacceptable. October was the 32nd straight month where illegal immigrant encounters have been higher than even the highest month seen under President Trump. It’s long past time to secure our border.

The people of Poland, OH, have made themselves that perfect terrorist target - with 97% white population not one single member of the Biden government cares one wit what happens to you. If they discovered 7 member on the terrorist watch group that means that hundreds have passed through and all they need is to get their weapons' ready. No one is going to chase them for killing white people.

On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 10:16:45 PM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
> GET THE FACTS: Border Crisis Continues to Surge
> Compared to October 2020, October 2023 saw a 235% rise in illegal immigrant encounters at our Southern Border. 240,988 illegal immigrants were encountered at the U.S.-Mexico border in October including 12 individuals on the terrorist watchlist. Since President Biden took office, there have been 7.8 million illegal immigrant encounters nationwide, 6.5 million illegal crossings at our Southern Border, and 1.7 million known gotaways who evaded U.S.. Border Patrol. This is unacceptable. October was the 32nd straight month where illegal immigrant encounters have been higher than even the highest month seen under President Trump. It’s long past time to secure our border.
>
Trump and the workers who voted for him understand in their marrow that demography is power and history in the making. Biden and the Democrats aren't doing this terrible thing to America ignorantly or even carelessly. They think all these poor, unskilled immigrants will vote for them. They're doing it on purpose, as a power-grab. Biden and the Democrats are knowingly, deliberately doing malicious damage to the American ethos and culture. Europe is already ruined, to the extent that the Scandinavians are officially deporting undesirable "refugees" -- the Scandinavians, the prototypical limp lefties!
>
Andre Jute
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the cows still need milking.
>

On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 7:42:22 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 10:16:45 PM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > GET THE FACTS: Border Crisis Continues to Surge
> > Compared to October 2020, October 2023 saw a 235% rise in illegal immigrant encounters at our Southern Border. 240,988 illegal immigrants were encountered at the U.S.-Mexico border in October including 12 individuals on the terrorist watchlist. Since President Biden took office, there have been 7.8 million illegal immigrant encounters nationwide, 6.5 million illegal crossings at our Southern Border, and 1.7 million known gotaways who evaded U..S. Border Patrol. This is unacceptable. October was the 32nd straight month where illegal immigrant encounters have been higher than even the highest month seen under President Trump. It’s long past time to secure our border.
> >
> Trump and the workers who voted for him understand in their marrow that demography is power and history in the making. Biden and the Democrats aren't doing this terrible thing to America ignorantly or even carelessly. They think all these poor, unskilled immigrants will vote for them. They're doing it on purpose, as a power-grab. Biden and the Democrats are knowingly, deliberately doing malicious damage to the American ethos and culture. Europe is already ruined, to the extent that the Scandinavians are officially deporting undesirable "refugees" -- the Scandinavians, the prototypical limp lefties!
> >
> Andre Jute
> Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the cows still need milking.
> >
I am watching comments from the people here who have not the slightest idea that they are the targets of the administration that they support. They haven't an ounce of historical knowledge. It was the Democrats who owned the plantations who needed slaves. They convinced the people who lived in the south that it wasn't about cheap labor but state's rights. This allowed them to obtain an Army that they thought would allow them to secede from the Union and keep their slaves. After that proved wrong they were so angry that they then threw blacks into the back of the bus. The same Democrats then segregated blacks in the most insulting ways possible from forcing them to ride in the back of the bus to only allowing them to use "blacks only" toilets! Often unavailable in public. And enforced by police that would just as soon kill a black and often did.

HOW did these same black hating scum end up with almost the entire black vote? From people like Krygowski teaching them that Republicans were the bad guys and not the plantation owners.

What these judges and prosecutors are doing to Trump is illegal and they WILL end up losing their membership to the bar over it. But they are stupid enough to believe that they will be protected by the Democrats that don't give a pig's eye for the little people. Biden and his family have become stinking rich from selling out this country and the little man is too stupid to realize that, and he votes Democrat.

Elon Musk bought Twitter to give people a free voice and instead it has become a platform for paid agitators from foreign countries to call Trump names. So instead of free speech it has become the opposite. People like Slocomb aren't smart enough to see what is coming as this nation will be forced to revalue its currency and the Chinese Yen will become the currency of choice. And Slocomb's military retirement will become worthless unless Trump saves it.

Lou doesn't even realize how valuable the US is to Europe but he is going to learn the hard way as the failed US economy means the Euro collapsing. The movement of OEM to China will have an effect far beyond the understanding of governments in the west.

On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 08:17:54 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>The movement of OEM to China will have an effect far beyond the understanding of governments in the west.

Really? According to these YouTube videos, China is failing badly:
<https://www.youtube.com/@ChinaObserver0/videos>

For example:

"China’s Expos Are Dying, Visitors Plummet by 90%, No More Western
Clients, Exhibitors Are Crying!"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUCww-4a_iI> (13:30)

"Canton Fair Crisis: 80% Drop in EU/US Buyers - Exhibitors in Tears:
No Orders, No Hope!"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1FkCGSDhPU> (16:07)

"Made in China is Done: No Order at Peak Season, Three Months Early
for Annual Leave"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY8ElfArXTA> (16:06)

Note that China Observer and China Insight channels are funded by the
Falun Gong, which are thoroughly anti-CCP and are currently being
persecuted in China. Some Reddit discussion on the topic:
<https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/rgpdig/is_china_observer_an_antichina_youtube_channel/>
<https://www.google.com/search?q=falun+gong>

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Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 11/20/2023 10:41 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 08:17:54 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The movement of OEM to China will have an effect far beyond the understanding of governments in the west.
>
> Really? According to these YouTube videos, China is failing badly:
> <https://www.youtube.com/@ChinaObserver0/videos>
>
> For example:
>
> "China’s Expos Are Dying, Visitors Plummet by 90%, No More Western
> Clients, Exhibitors Are Crying!"
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUCww-4a_iI> (13:30)
>
> "Canton Fair Crisis: 80% Drop in EU/US Buyers - Exhibitors in Tears:
> No Orders, No Hope!"
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1FkCGSDhPU> (16:07)
>
> "Made in China is Done: No Order at Peak Season, Three Months Early
> for Annual Leave"
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY8ElfArXTA> (16:06)
>
> Note that China Observer and China Insight channels are funded by the
> Falun Gong, which are thoroughly anti-CCP and are currently being
> persecuted in China. Some Reddit discussion on the topic:
> <https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/rgpdig/is_china_observer_an_antichina_youtube_channel/>
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=falun+gong>
>

meh.
I've read predictions of a China economic collapse for three
years. So far, like Global Warming and a Russian Army
collapse, not so much.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:03:34 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 11/20/2023 10:41 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 08:17:54 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The movement of OEM to China will have an effect far beyond the understanding of governments in the west.
>>
>> Really? According to these YouTube videos, China is failing badly:
>> <https://www.youtube.com/@ChinaObserver0/videos>
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> "China’s Expos Are Dying, Visitors Plummet by 90%, No More Western
>> Clients, Exhibitors Are Crying!"
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUCww-4a_iI> (13:30)
>>
>> "Canton Fair Crisis: 80% Drop in EU/US Buyers - Exhibitors in Tears:
>> No Orders, No Hope!"
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1FkCGSDhPU> (16:07)
>>
>> "Made in China is Done: No Order at Peak Season, Three Months Early
>> for Annual Leave"
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY8ElfArXTA> (16:06)
>>
>> Note that China Observer and China Insight channels are funded by the
>> Falun Gong, which are thoroughly anti-CCP and are currently being
>> persecuted in China. Some Reddit discussion on the topic:
>> <https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/rgpdig/is_china_observer_an_antichina_youtube_channel/>
>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=falun+gong>
>>
>
>meh.
>I've read predictions of a China economic collapse for three
>years. So far, like Global Warming and a Russian Army
>collapse, not so much.

The global cooling predictions didn't work out so well, either.

On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 4:16:45 PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
> GET THE FACTS: Border Crisis Continues to Surge
> Compared to October 2020, October 2023 saw a 235% rise in illegal immigrant encounters at our Southern Border. 240,988 illegal immigrants were encountered at the U.S.-Mexico border in October including 12 individuals on the terrorist watchlist. Since President Biden took office, there have been 7.8 million illegal immigrant encounters nationwide, 6.5 million illegal crossings at our Southern Border, and 1.7 million known gotaways who evaded U.S.. Border Patrol. This is unacceptable. October was the 32nd straight month where illegal immigrant encounters have been higher than even the highest month seen under President Trump. It’s long past time to secure our border.

Trump is responsible for the deaths of 5 people.

Anyone who thinks otherwise probable has their head in the sand.

Andy

On 11/20/2023 6:50 PM, AK wrote:
> On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 4:16:45 PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> GET THE FACTS: Border Crisis Continues to Surge
>> Compared to October 2020, October 2023 saw a 235% rise in illegal immigrant encounters at our Southern Border. 240,988 illegal immigrants were encountered at the U.S.-Mexico border in October including 12 individuals on the terrorist watchlist. Since President Biden took office, there have been 7.8 million illegal immigrant encounters nationwide, 6.5 million illegal crossings at our Southern Border, and 1.7 million known gotaways who evaded U.S. Border Patrol. This is unacceptable. October was the 32nd straight month where illegal immigrant encounters have been higher than even the highest month seen under President Trump. It’s long past time to secure our border.
>
>
> Trump is responsible for the deaths of 5 people.
>
> Anyone who thinks otherwise probable has their head in the sand.
>
> Andy

Uh, Vincent Foster? Seth Rich? Who else?
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:03:34 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 11/20/2023 10:41 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 08:17:54 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The movement of OEM to China will have an effect far beyond the understanding of governments in the west.
>>
>> Really? According to these YouTube videos, China is failing badly:
>> <https://www.youtube.com/@ChinaObserver0/videos>
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> "China’s Expos Are Dying, Visitors Plummet by 90%, No More Western
>> Clients, Exhibitors Are Crying!"
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUCww-4a_iI> (13:30)
>>
>> "Canton Fair Crisis: 80% Drop in EU/US Buyers - Exhibitors in Tears:
>> No Orders, No Hope!"
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1FkCGSDhPU> (16:07)
>>
>> "Made in China is Done: No Order at Peak Season, Three Months Early
>> for Annual Leave"
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY8ElfArXTA> (16:06)
>>
>> Note that China Observer and China Insight channels are funded by the
>> Falun Gong, which are thoroughly anti-CCP and are currently being
>> persecuted in China. Some Reddit discussion on the topic:
>> <https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/rgpdig/is_china_observer_an_antichina_youtube_channel/>
>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=falun+gong>
>>
>
>meh.
>I've read predictions of a China economic collapse for three
>years. So far, like Global Warming and a Russian Army
>collapse, not so much.

I read that, probably, due to relatively high Chinese labour costs and
likely tariffs, that China is expanding their manufacturing to smaller
countries.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trade-supply-chains-china-separating-southeast-asia-off-shoring-decouple-2023-9

But Chinese GDP both National and Per-Capita, as of 2022, seem to be
at an all time high
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/CHN/china/gdp-gross-domestic-product

--
Cheers,

John B.

On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 12:50:24 AM UTC, AK wrote:
> On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 4:16:45 PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > GET THE FACTS: Border Crisis Continues to Surge
> > Compared to October 2020, October 2023 saw a 235% rise in illegal immigrant encounters at our Southern Border. 240,988 illegal immigrants were encountered at the U.S.-Mexico border in October including 12 individuals on the terrorist watchlist. Since President Biden took office, there have been 7.8 million illegal immigrant encounters nationwide, 6.5 million illegal crossings at our Southern Border, and 1.7 million known gotaways who evaded U..S. Border Patrol. This is unacceptable. October was the 32nd straight month where illegal immigrant encounters have been higher than even the highest month seen under President Trump. It’s long past time to secure our border.
> Trump is responsible for the deaths of 5 people.
>
> Anyone who thinks otherwise probable has their head in the sand.
>
> Andy
>
OK, Andy, name them, describe the circumstances of their death, and enlighten us on how you link their deaths to President Trump. -- AJ
>

On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:44:03 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>We have the records and the latest Yale study tells us that 65% of people taking the covid-19 vaccines had SERIOUS side effects up to and including death.

Who are "we" and where have you hidden this "evidence"?

Incidentally, I got the latest Covid-19 booster shot on Nov 18 (3 days
ago). I was kinda tired the next day and spent the day in bed. Monday
morning was more of the same, but I did a service call in the
afternoon anyway. This morning I overslept, but am feeling much
better. I should be back to normal by tonite. No lingering side
effect or fatalities yet. In about 2 weeks, I go for a non-mRNA
Shingles vaccine shot.

>The government and the Slime Stream Media lied about this in
>one continuous stream.

Everyone lies, but that's ok because nobody listens. I forgot from
where I stole that line.

>People like Liebermann who ran out and got vaccinated because
>I said that the covid-19 was not dangerous now appear to have
>shortened their life spans A LOT.

Tom: Two problems:
1. I didn't run. I walked. I read what I could find about the
efficacy and alleged dangers of the various vaccines and then made my
decision. In general, I ignored everything you wrote.
2. I offered no advice either for or against vaccination. I
announced my decision and nothing else. However, I did ask a few
questions about your amazing cure from an alleged case of Covid-19,
President Trump's overnight recovery, and some of the statistics which
seemed to have been edited to agree with political agendas.

>Slocomb did the same thing and he is obviously in the throws of
>dementia, one of the thrilling side effects of covid-19 vaccines.

You have it backwards. Covid-19 can produce accelerated deterioration
in those with dementia. Covid-19 does not cause dementia.
"Rapid Progression of Dementia Following COVID-19"
<https://covid19.nih.gov/news-and-stories/rapid-progression-dementia-following-covid-19>

Have a nice Thanksgiving dinner:
"6 Ways Your Holiday Turkey Can Make You Sick"
<https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2020/thanksgiving-turkey-safety.html>

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PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 10:44:05 AM UTC-5, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> We have the records and the latest Yale study tells us that 65% of people taking the covid-19 vaccines had SERIOUS side effects up to and including death.

We have those records and that study? Please do give us the link - assuming it's not just in your imagination.

- Frank Krygowski

On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 4:19:20 PM UTC-5, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> I got an email telling me ...

Oh good grief. Nobody believes you get email reports on Usenet postings. Give up that charade.

- Frank Krygowski

On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:19:18 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>I got an email telling me that dumbshit Liebermann again cannot find the remarks about the latest Yale Study.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JblPugmoTBw&t=1090s

If you make a claim, it's YOUR responsibility to provide the necessary
evidence and corroboration. Without those, you have no credibility.

From the "more" text below the YouTube video:

"In this online, observational, self-reported post-vaccine injured
patients the researchers from Yale have gathered and analyzed the kind
of symptoms, intensity of symptoms, demography, treatment options, and
the psychological status of such patients."

Does this "self-reporting" sound familiar? It's VAERS (Vaccine
Adverse Event Reporting System) again:
<https://vaers.hhs.gov>
At least I think it's VAERS because there have been several other
attempts at studying vaccine outcomes using crowd sourced data. There
is no transcript of the YouTube video and I'm not going to listen to
28 minutes of alarmist rants to check on the source of the pre-print
study.

Hmm... Dr Mobeen Syed seems to be into monitizing his lectures.
<https://www.patreon.com/mobeensyed/about?fan_landing=true>
Click on the "About" below his name. Patreon shows he's collecting
$2,333/month. I thought cardiologists made far more money treating
patients. Did you join his "plans" and send him money?
<https://www.drbeen.com>

Tom: My guess(tm) is that this will be the fifth time I've explained
to you that everyone, including the VAERS researchers, make it clear
that their data should NOT be use to establish causality:
<https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html>
"When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any
reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been
established."
"The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a
vaccine caused the event."
"A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified
vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described."
"VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was
caused by the vaccine."

>I suppose when you have nothing to say you must say it anyway.

That says nothing.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to
remove all doubt." Abraham Lincoln.

>Liebermann's brain could fit on one side of a penny. Though the
>penny is a lot more valuable.

What would a Tom posting be without the obligatory personalize insults
and accusations.

--
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Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:30:30 -0800 (PST), Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 4:19:20?PM UTC-5, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> I got an email telling me ...

>Oh good grief. Nobody believes you get email reports on Usenet postings. Give up that charade.
>- Frank Krygowski

He can't give it up. It's part of the template that he uses for RBT
postings. I started reverse engineering the template about a year
ago, but never finished. Tom has recently changed his style and my
description is not sufficiently acerbic. I'll fix both later.

1. Start with a message from an unspecified person giving Tom a
suitable excuse to complain about something.
2. Add an accusation or insult aimed at a person or group.
3. Mention something from townhall.org or Dr John Campbell without
links or accurate quotes.
4. Add a politicized accusation aimed at, Democrats, liberals,
immigrants, government agencies, public figures or anyone who
disagrees with Tom's point of view.
5. Add something irrelevant about Covid-19, politics, B-52 details,
or other topics with which Tom is familiar.
6. Recycle some old lies about Tom's past accomplishments, wealth,
mythical former employers, Nobel Prize winners, bicycle problems or
amazing feats of cycling.
7. End with a remark carefully crafted to inspire a topic change.

Using the above template, you too can emulate Tom's method of
argumentation.

--
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PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:44:00 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:44:03 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
><cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>We have the records and the latest Yale study tells us that 65% of people taking the covid-19 vaccines had SERIOUS side effects up to and including death.
>
>Who are "we" and where have you hidden this "evidence"?
>
>Incidentally, I got the latest Covid-19 booster shot on Nov 18 (3 days
>ago). I was kinda tired the next day and spent the day in bed. Monday
>morning was more of the same, but I did a service call in the
>afternoon anyway. This morning I overslept, but am feeling much
>better. I should be back to normal by tonite. No lingering side
>effect or fatalities yet. In about 2 weeks, I go for a non-mRNA
>Shingles vaccine shot.
>
>>The government and the Slime Stream Media lied about this in
>>one continuous stream.
>
>Everyone lies, but that's ok because nobody listens. I forgot from
>where I stole that line.
>
>>People like Liebermann who ran out and got vaccinated because
>>I said that the covid-19 was not dangerous now appear to have
>>shortened their life spans A LOT.
>
>Tom: Two problems:
>1. I didn't run. I walked. I read what I could find about the
>efficacy and alleged dangers of the various vaccines and then made my
>decision. In general, I ignored everything you wrote.
>2. I offered no advice either for or against vaccination. I
>announced my decision and nothing else. However, I did ask a few
>questions about your amazing cure from an alleged case of Covid-19,
>President Trump's overnight recovery, and some of the statistics which
>seemed to have been edited to agree with political agendas.
>
>>Slocomb did the same thing and he is obviously in the throws of
>>dementia, one of the thrilling side effects of covid-19 vaccines.
>
>You have it backwards. Covid-19 can produce accelerated deterioration
>in those with dementia. Covid-19 does not cause dementia.
>"Rapid Progression of Dementia Following COVID-19"
><https://covid19.nih.gov/news-and-stories/rapid-progression-dementia-following-covid-19>
>
>Have a nice Thanksgiving dinner:
>"6 Ways Your Holiday Turkey Can Make You Sick"
><https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2020/thanksgiving-turkey-safety.html>

Good old Tommy and his poison immunization shots. Tommy has been
telling us that if you get the shot you are on the express train for
Heaven (or maybe the other place) and I've been telling him that some
73% of the world's population has already had the shot and when are
they going to start dying... and he never answers.

Can it be? That he doesn't know what he is talking about?

--
Cheers,

John B.

On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 5:44:10 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 11/20/2023 6:50 PM, AK wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 4:16:45 PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >> GET THE FACTS: Border Crisis Continues to Surge
> >> Compared to October 2020, October 2023 saw a 235% rise in illegal immigrant encounters at our Southern Border. 240,988 illegal immigrants were encountered at the U.S.-Mexico border in October including 12 individuals on the terrorist watchlist. Since President Biden took office, there have been 7.8 million illegal immigrant encounters nationwide, 6.5 million illegal crossings at our Southern Border, and 1.7 million known gotaways who evaded U.S. Border Patrol. This is unacceptable. October was the 32nd straight month where illegal immigrant encounters have been higher than even the highest month seen under President Trump. It’s long past time to secure our border.
> >
> >
> > Trump is responsible for the deaths of 5 people.
> >
> > Anyone who thinks otherwise probable has their head in the sand.
> >
> > Andy
> Uh, Vincent Foster? Seth Rich? Who else?

Carl Fogel.

On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:19:18 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 7:44:05?AM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 6:22:44?AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 12:50:24?AM UTC, AK wrote:
>> > > On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 4:16:45?PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > > > GET THE FACTS: Border Crisis Continues to Surge
>> > > > Compared to October 2020, October 2023 saw a 235% rise in illegal immigrant encounters at our Southern Border. 240,988 illegal immigrants were encountered at the U.S.-Mexico border in October including 12 individuals on the terrorist watchlist. Since President Biden took office, there have been 7.8 million illegal immigrant encounters nationwide, 6.5 million illegal crossings at our Southern Border, and 1.7 million known gotaways who evaded U.S. Border Patrol. This is unacceptable. October was the 32nd straight month where illegal immigrant encounters have been higher than even the highest month seen under President Trump. It’s long past time to secure our border.
>> > > Trump is responsible for the deaths of 5 people.
>> > >
>> > > Anyone who thinks otherwise probable has their head in the sand.
>> > >
>> > > Andy
>> > >
>> > OK, Andy, name them, describe the circumstances of their death, and enlighten us on how you link their deaths to President Trump. -- AJ
>> > >
>> We have the records and the latest Yale study tells us that 65% of people taking the covid-19 vaccines had SERIOUS side effects up to and including death. The government and the Slime Stream Media lied about this in one continuous stream. People like Liebermann who ran out and got vaccinated because I said that the covid-19 was not dangerous now appear to have shortened their life spans A LOT. Slocomb did the same thing and he is obviously in the throws of dementia, one of the thrilling side effects of covid-19 vaccines.
>
>I got an email telling me that dumbshit Liebermann again cannot find the remarks about the latest Yale Study. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JblPugmoTBw&t=1090s
>
>I suppose when you have nothing to say you must say it anyway. Liebermann's brain could fit on one side of a penny. Though the penny is a lot more valuable.

I actually read the study it says, "In a recent study published as a
preprint by Yale University, researchers compared the experiences of
individuals with Post-Vaccination Syndrome (PVS) after COVID-19
vaccination with a healthy control group."

Note that "individuals with Post-Vaccination Syndrome (PVS)".

Next step is to determine how frequently PVS occurs:

Using data from Australia where I read that "97% of the eligible
Australian population aged 12" have received immunization

Some rare but serious events caused by COVID-19 vaccines were detected
within months of the vaccine rollout.
Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome is a serious but rare
clotting disorder. It occurs in around one in 50,000 doses of the
AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine, with 173 cases reported in Australia.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:44:03 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 6:22:44?AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 12:50:24?AM UTC, AK wrote:
>> > On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 4:16:45?PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > > GET THE FACTS: Border Crisis Continues to Surge
>> > > Compared to October 2020, October 2023 saw a 235% rise in illegal immigrant encounters at our Southern Border. 240,988 illegal immigrants were encountered at the U.S.-Mexico border in October including 12 individuals on the terrorist watchlist. Since President Biden took office, there have been 7.8 million illegal immigrant encounters nationwide, 6.5 million illegal crossings at our Southern Border, and 1.7 million known gotaways who evaded U.S. Border Patrol. This is unacceptable. October was the 32nd straight month where illegal immigrant encounters have been higher than even the highest month seen under President Trump. It’s long past time to secure our border.
>> > Trump is responsible for the deaths of 5 people.
>> >
>> > Anyone who thinks otherwise probable has their head in the sand.
>> >
>> > Andy
>> >
>> OK, Andy, name them, describe the circumstances of their death, and enlighten us on how you link their deaths to President Trump. -- AJ
>> >
>
>We have the records and the latest Yale study tells us that 65% of people taking the covid-19 vaccines had SERIOUS side effects up to and including death. The government and the Slime Stream Media lied about this in one continuous stream. People like Liebermann who ran out and got vaccinated because I said that the covid-19 was not dangerous now appear to have shortened their life spans A LOT. Slocomb did the same thing and he is obviously in the throws of dementia, one of the thrilling side effects of covid-19 vaccines.

O.K., once again I think you are lying. Please post the actual Yale
Study that states that "65% of people taking the covid-19 vaccines had
SERIOUS side effects up to and including death.

Not some Yo-Yo on youtube, the actual Yale study report.

But, I really don't expect to see you provide any verification of your
statement as that isn't your style, is it. Your style is to run about
yapping like a small dog and then when anyone questions your weird
statements you run away and hide.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 11/21/2023 7:07 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
> On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 5:44:10 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 11/20/2023 6:50 PM, AK wrote:
>>> On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 4:16:45 PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>> GET THE FACTS: Border Crisis Continues to Surge
>>>> Compared to October 2020, October 2023 saw a 235% rise in illegal immigrant encounters at our Southern Border. 240,988 illegal immigrants were encountered at the U.S.-Mexico border in October including 12 individuals on the terrorist watchlist. Since President Biden took office, there have been 7.8 million illegal immigrant encounters nationwide, 6.5 million illegal crossings at our Southern Border, and 1.7 million known gotaways who evaded U.S. Border Patrol. This is unacceptable. October was the 32nd straight month where illegal immigrant encounters have been higher than even the highest month seen under President Trump. It’s long past time to secure our border.
>>>
>>>
>>> Trump is responsible for the deaths of 5 people.
>>>
>>> Anyone who thinks otherwise probable has their head in the sand.
>>>
>>> Andy
>> Uh, Vincent Foster? Seth Rich? Who else?
>
> Carl Fogel.
>
I sometimes wonder what happened to Mr Fogel. And Mr Cholina
too.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 11/21/2023 8:43 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 11/21/2023 7:07 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
>> On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 5:44:10 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2023 6:50 PM, AK wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 4:16:45 PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>> GET THE FACTS: Border Crisis Continues to Surge
>>>>> Compared to October 2020, October 2023 saw a 235% rise in illegal
>>>>> immigrant encounters at our Southern Border. 240,988 illegal
>>>>> immigrants were encountered at the U.S.-Mexico border in October
>>>>> including 12 individuals on the terrorist watchlist. Since
>>>>> President Biden took office, there have been 7.8 million illegal
>>>>> immigrant encounters nationwide, 6.5 million illegal crossings at
>>>>> our Southern Border, and 1.7 million known gotaways who evaded U.S.
>>>>> Border Patrol. This is unacceptable. October was the 32nd straight
>>>>> month where illegal immigrant encounters have been higher than even
>>>>> the highest month seen under President Trump. It’s long past time
>>>>> to secure our border.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Trump is responsible for the deaths of 5 people.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone who thinks otherwise probable has their head in the sand.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>> Uh, Vincent Foster? Seth Rich? Who else?
>>
>> Carl Fogel.
>>
> I sometimes wonder what happened to Mr Fogel. And Mr Cholina too.

I agree. I even miss Datakoll, but for reasons that are almost
completely opposite.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 07:34:46 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Good old Tommy and his poison immunization shots. Tommy has been
>telling us that if you get the shot you are on the express train for
>Heaven (or maybe the other place) and I've been telling him that some
>73% of the world's population has already had the shot and when are
>they going to start dying... and he never answers.
>
>Can it be? That he doesn't know what he is talking about?

There is one benefit to Tom and his amazing facts. If you don't know
what to do next, the safest course is to do the exact opposite of what
he recommends. Since he's wrong 99.999% of the time, that seems to be
the safest approach.

"COVID-19 vaccine doses and confirmed deaths"
<https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&uniformYAxis=0&country=USA%7EGBR%7ECAN%7EDEU%7ETHA&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Vaccine+doses+and+confirmed+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false>
Notice how the vaccine doses per 100 tracks (mirrors) the number of
new deaths per million? More vaccine doses => fewer new deaths.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:44:13 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 07:34:46 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Good old Tommy and his poison immunization shots. Tommy has been
>>telling us that if you get the shot you are on the express train for
>>Heaven (or maybe the other place) and I've been telling him that some
>>73% of the world's population has already had the shot and when are
>>they going to start dying... and he never answers.
>>
>>Can it be? That he doesn't know what he is talking about?
>
>There is one benefit to Tom and his amazing facts. If you don't know
>what to do next, the safest course is to do the exact opposite of what
>he recommends. Since he's wrong 99.999% of the time, that seems to be
>the safest approach.
>
>"COVID-19 vaccine doses and confirmed deaths"
><https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&uniformYAxis=0&country=USA%7EGBR%7ECAN%7EDEU%7ETHA&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Vaccine+doses+and+confirmed+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false>
>Notice how the vaccine doses per 100 tracks (mirrors) the number of
>new deaths per million? More vaccine doses => fewer new deaths.

Now, now, Jeff, you are "picking on" poor old Tom and if you don't
stop he'll be getting one of those e-mails telling him it would be
o.k. to go to your place and kill you with a single blow of his mighty
fist, just as he has written about Frank.

But, really? Can you imagine an adult saying something like that?
Admittedly I'm too old to remember my school days but it does sound
like something that you might hear shouted on a 1st or 2nd grade
school yard. Can you imagine this mental midget designing all these
fiendishly complex scientific machinery as he claims to have done?
Perhaps sharpening a pencil? But certainly designing the actual pencil
sharper device would be beyond him.

In fact, the only thing I've ever heard him say about his career that
sounded like it "might" be true was his tale about interviewing AIDs
sufferers and recording their statements. (and he probably got that
wrong most of the time).
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 2:24:18 AM UTC, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 11/21/2023 8:43 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 11/21/2023 7:07 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
> >> On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 5:44:10 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> >>> On 11/20/2023 6:50 PM, AK wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 4:16:45 PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>>> GET THE FACTS: Border Crisis Continues to Surge
> >>>>> Compared to October 2020, October 2023 saw a 235% rise in illegal
> >>>>> immigrant encounters at our Southern Border. 240,988 illegal
> >>>>> immigrants were encountered at the U.S.-Mexico border in October
> >>>>> including 12 individuals on the terrorist watchlist. Since
> >>>>> President Biden took office, there have been 7.8 million illegal
> >>>>> immigrant encounters nationwide, 6.5 million illegal crossings at
> >>>>> our Southern Border, and 1.7 million known gotaways who evaded U.S.
> >>>>> Border Patrol. This is unacceptable. October was the 32nd straight
> >>>>> month where illegal immigrant encounters have been higher than even
> >>>>> the highest month seen under President Trump. It’s long past time
> >>>>> to secure our border.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Trump is responsible for the deaths of 5 people.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone who thinks otherwise probable has their head in the sand.
> >>>>
> >>>> Andy
> >>> Uh, Vincent Foster? Seth Rich? Who else?
> >>
> >> Carl Fogel.
> >>
> > I sometimes wonder what happened to Mr Fogel. And Mr Cholina too.
> I agree. I even miss Datakoll, but for reasons that are almost
> completely opposite.
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski
>
Jesus weeps. You would, Franki-boy, miss a creep who was an anti-semite of the worst stripe, a xenophobe, and a deliberate mangler of the English language. I say good riddance to him, and I'll say the same about you when you're gone. There isn't a single positive thing I can think of about either of you.
>
Andre Jute
Artists have to tell the hard truths.
>