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Subject: Re: The speed of light is observer dependent
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by: JanPB - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 00:05 UTC

On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 7:46:09 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:02:47 AM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:36:33 PM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 8:36:01 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > The speed of anything, including light, is observer dependent.
> > > > Not according to experiment. You are free to fantasise, of course.
> > > >
> > > No OWLS over a large distance ever been done.
> > > Why? Because physicists knew that OWLS is anisotropic.
> > No, it's because you don't understand anything.
> No, it's because you are indoctrinated in Einstein's failed physics.
> >
> > Why do people who have absolutely ZERO talent for
> > physics insist on "doing physics" is an interesting
> > psychiatric-type question.
> Yes we reject Einstein's obsolete physics and we came up with real physics.

If you have no talent, then your opinion is suspect. So when you
say "Einstein's obsolete physics", it's just so much word salad.
Anybody can SAY anything. You've produced nothing to back this up.

--
Jan

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by: Paul Alsing - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 00:53 UTC

On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 5:05:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 7:46:09 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:02:47 AM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:36:33 PM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 8:36:01 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > The speed of anything, including light, is observer dependent.
> > > > > Not according to experiment. You are free to fantasise, of course.
> > > > >
> > > > No OWLS over a large distance ever been done.
> > > > Why? Because physicists knew that OWLS is anisotropic.
> > > No, it's because you don't understand anything.
> > No, it's because you are indoctrinated in Einstein's failed physics.
> > >
> > > Why do people who have absolutely ZERO talent for
> > > physics insist on "doing physics" is an interesting
> > > psychiatric-type question.
> > Yes we reject Einstein's obsolete physics and we came up with real physics.

> If you have no talent, then your opinion is suspect. So when you
> say "Einstein's obsolete physics", it's just so much word salad.
> Anybody can SAY anything. You've produced nothing to back this up.

Has Ken Seto *ever* backed up any of his claims with evidence? No, I don't think that man even knows the definition of the word...

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by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 07:27 UTC

On 2022-09-02 20:41:16 +0000, Volney said:

> On 9/2/2022 10:55 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
>> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 10:46:09 AM UTC-4, Ken Seto wrote:
>>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:02:47 AM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:36:33 PM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 8:36:01 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> The speed of anything, including light, is observer dependent.
>>>>>> Not according to experiment. You are free to fantasise, of course.
>>>>>>
>>>>> No OWLS over a large distance ever been done.
>>>>> Why? Because physicists knew that OWLS is anisotropic.
>>>> No, it's because you don't understand anything.
>> No, it's because you are indoctrinated in Einstein's failed physics.
>>>>
>>>> Why do people who have absolutely ZERO talent for
>>>> physics insist on "doing physics" is an interesting
>>>> psychiatric-type question.
>
> It is interesting, how they must believe that if someone who has years
> of education in science and works years in labs can do it, they can sit
> in their armchairs, and "think" up "answers" just as easily, despite
> having no relevant education.
>>
>> Yes, we reject Einstein's obsolete physics and we came up with real physics.
>
> "We", Stupid Ken? You and your fellow crackpots?

Do Ken and the other crackpots agree with one another? I have the
impression that we have as many versions of "real physics" as we have
crackpots.

> Too bad for you that actual physicists continue to use the
> (non-)obsolete physics, not your pretend "new" crackpot physics.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

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by: Ken Seto - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 15:07 UTC

On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 8:05:37 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 7:46:09 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:02:47 AM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:36:33 PM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 8:36:01 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > The speed of anything, including light, is observer dependent.
> > > > > Not according to experiment. You are free to fantasise, of course.
> > > > >
> > > > No OWLS over a large distance ever been done.
> > > > Why? Because physicists knew that OWLS is anisotropic.
> > > No, it's because you don't understand anything.
> > No, it's because you are indoctrinated in Einstein's failed physics.
> > >
> > > Why do people who have absolutely ZERO talent for
> > > physics insist on "doing physics" is an interesting
> > > psychiatric-type question.
> > Yes we reject Einstein's obsolete physics and we came up with real physics.
> If you have no talent, then your opinion is suspect. So when you
> say "Einstein's obsolete physics", it's just so much word salad.
> Anybody can SAY anything. You've produced nothing to back this up.

Stupid Mike, I certainly produced a valid TOE that included the following:
1. Unification of all the forces (including gravity).
2. Discovered the repulsive CRE force as part of gravity.
3. Explains how the charge of a particle is generated.and maintained.

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by: Ken Seto - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 15:21 UTC

On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 8:53:27 PM UTC-4, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 5:05:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 7:46:09 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:02:47 AM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:36:33 PM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 8:36:01 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > The speed of anything, including light, is observer dependent.
> > > > > > Not according to experiment. You are free to fantasise, of course.
> > > > > >
> > > > > No OWLS over a large distance ever been done.
> > > > > Why? Because physicists knew that OWLS is anisotropic.
> > > > No, it's because you don't understand anything.
> > > No, it's because you are indoctrinated in Einstein's failed physics.
> > > >
> > > > Why do people who have absolutely ZERO talent for
> > > > physics insist on "doing physics" is an interesting
> > > > psychiatric-type question.
> > > Yes we reject Einstein's obsolete physics and we came up with real physics.
>
> > If you have no talent, then your opinion is suspect. So when you
> > say "Einstein's obsolete physics", it's just so much word salad.
> > Anybody can SAY anything. You've produced nothing to back this up.
> Has Ken Seto *ever* backed up any of his claims with evidence? No, I don't think that man even knows >the definition of the word...

Hey idiot, I came up with a physical model that includes the following:
1. A new theory of gravity.
2. Explains how the change of a particle (such as an electron) is generated and maintained.
3. Discovered the repulsive CRE force as part of gravity. without the CRE force no orbiting motion is possible.

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by: Volney - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 19:01 UTC

On 9/3/2022 3:27 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2022-09-02 20:41:16 +0000, Volney said:
>
>> On 9/2/2022 10:55 AM, Ken Seto wrote:

>>> Yes, we reject Einstein's obsolete physics and we came up with real
>>> physics.
>>
>> "We", Stupid Ken? You and your fellow crackpots?
>
> Do Ken and the other crackpots agree with one another? I have the
> impression that we have as many versions of "real physics" as we have
> crackpots.

They almost never agree with each other. That leads to many entertaining
kꚙkfights, but mostly they ignore each other to gang up on the common
enemy of crackpots, relativity.

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by: Dana Belluomi - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 19:03 UTC

Volney wrote:

> On 9/2/2022 6:42 PM, Dana Belluomi wrote:
>> Volney wrote:
>>>> No idiot, he changed the link. The correct link is:
>>>> http://www.modelmeсhanics.org/2016ibook.pdf Notice that there is no
>>>> extra "e" follow "model".
>>> It still doesn't work, Stupid Ken.
>>
>> how did you do that in puny code, my friend, I only see different this
>> my friend??
>
> You are the nymshifting troll. Trolls don't have friends.

it's rather obvious that you don't know the client is pushing it
automatically. Thank you informing us, you don't want to have friends on
usenet. You capitalists don't want friends. You want "free_marked" when
you win the profit then the other countries lose.

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by: Volney - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 19:06 UTC

On 9/3/2022 11:21 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 8:53:27 PM UTC-4, Paul Alsing wrote:
>> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 5:05:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
>>> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 7:46:09 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:

>>>> Yes we reject Einstein's obsolete physics and we came up with real physics.
>>
>>> If you have no talent, then your opinion is suspect. So when you
>>> say "Einstein's obsolete physics", it's just so much word salad.
>>> Anybody can SAY anything. You've produced nothing to back this up.
>> Has Ken Seto *ever* backed up any of his claims with evidence? No, I don't think that man even knows >the definition of the word...
>
> Hey idiot, I came up with a physical model that includes the following:
> 1. A new theory of gravity.

Have you ever backed that up with evidence? No.

> 2. Explains how the change of a particle (such as an electron) is generated and maintained.

Have you ever backed that up with evidence? No.

> 3. Discovered the repulsive CRE force as part of gravity. without the CRE force no orbiting motion is possible.

Have you ever backed that up with evidence? No.

>> No, I don't think that man even knows the definition of the word...

He does not.

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by: Dinky Traversi - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 19:13 UTC

Ken Seto wrote:

> On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-4, Dana Belluomi
> wrote:
>> Ken Seto wrote:
>>
>> > No idiot, he changed the link. The correct link is:
>> > http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf Notice that there is no
>> > extra "e" follow "model".
>> fucked up again with Author Lisa Hayes. It's not you the author of the
>> theory of everything. It's Lisa Hayes.
>
> Lias Hayes was my Editor.....I don't know how she managed to include her
> name into my work.

you can't write a paper alone?

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by: Volney - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 20:02 UTC

On 9/3/2022 3:13 PM, Dinky Traversi wrote:
> Ken Seto wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-4, Dana Belluomi
>> wrote:
>>> Ken Seto wrote:
>>>
>>>> No idiot, he changed the link. The correct link is:
>>>> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf Notice that there is no
>>>> extra "e" follow "model".
>>> fucked up again with Author Lisa Hayes. It's not you the author of the
>>> theory of everything. It's Lisa Hayes.
>>
>> Lias Hayes was my Editor.....I don't know how she managed to include her
>> name into my work.
>
> you can't write a paper alone?

We know from a post here long ago, that Ken stole his Muddle Mechanics
from someone. Maybe this Lisa Hayes is the person he stole it from?

Not that anyone would be dumb enough to admit to creating with Muddle
Mechanics, other than Ken himself.

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by: JanPB - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 20:31 UTC

On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 8:21:16 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 8:53:27 PM UTC-4, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 5:05:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 7:46:09 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:02:47 AM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:36:33 PM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 8:36:01 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > The speed of anything, including light, is observer dependent.
> > > > > > > Not according to experiment. You are free to fantasise, of course.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > No OWLS over a large distance ever been done.
> > > > > > Why? Because physicists knew that OWLS is anisotropic.
> > > > > No, it's because you don't understand anything.
> > > > No, it's because you are indoctrinated in Einstein's failed physics.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why do people who have absolutely ZERO talent for
> > > > > physics insist on "doing physics" is an interesting
> > > > > psychiatric-type question.
> > > > Yes we reject Einstein's obsolete physics and we came up with real physics.
> >
> > > If you have no talent, then your opinion is suspect. So when you
> > > say "Einstein's obsolete physics", it's just so much word salad.
> > > Anybody can SAY anything. You've produced nothing to back this up.
> > Has Ken Seto *ever* backed up any of his claims with evidence? No, I don't think that man even knows >the definition of the word...
> Hey idiot, I came up with a physical model that includes the following:

You came up only with gobbledygook. A pseudoscientific diarrhoea.

--
Jan

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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Sun, 4 Sep 2022 00:44 UTC

On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 1:31:29 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 8:21:16 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 8:53:27 PM UTC-4, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 5:05:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 7:46:09 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:02:47 AM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:36:33 PM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 8:36:01 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > The speed of anything, including light, is observer dependent.
> > > > > > > > Not according to experiment. You are free to fantasise, of course.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No OWLS over a large distance ever been done.
> > > > > > > Why? Because physicists knew that OWLS is anisotropic.
> > > > > > No, it's because you don't understand anything.
> > > > > No, it's because you are indoctrinated in Einstein's failed physics.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why do people who have absolutely ZERO talent for
> > > > > > physics insist on "doing physics" is an interesting
> > > > > > psychiatric-type question.
> > > > > Yes we reject Einstein's obsolete physics and we came up with real physics.
> > >
> > > > If you have no talent, then your opinion is suspect. So when you
> > > > say "Einstein's obsolete physics", it's just so much word salad.
> > > > Anybody can SAY anything. You've produced nothing to back this up.
> > > Has Ken Seto *ever* backed up any of his claims with evidence? No, I don't think that man even knows >the definition of the word...
> > Hey idiot, I came up with a physical model that includes the following:
> You came up only with gobbledygook. A pseudoscientific diarrhoea.
>
> --
> Jan

Light and atom have motion in space.
An atom can move ahead of light at absolute speed in space.
That creates a temporary motion BH behind it.

Mitchell Raemsch

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by: Maciej Wozniak - Sun, 4 Sep 2022 05:54 UTC

On Saturday, 3 September 2022 at 21:01:13 UTC+2, Volney wrote:
> On 9/3/2022 3:27 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> > On 2022-09-02 20:41:16 +0000, Volney said:
> >
> >> On 9/2/2022 10:55 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
>
> >>> Yes, we reject Einstein's obsolete physics and we came up with real
> >>> physics.
> >>
> >> "We", Stupid Ken? You and your fellow crackpots?
> >
> > Do Ken and the other crackpots agree with one another? I have the
> > impression that we have as many versions of "real physics" as we have
> > crackpots.
> They almost never agree with each other.

As if relativistic idiots here often agree on something
more that that his insane guru was right.

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by: J. J. Lodder - Sun, 4 Sep 2022 08:54 UTC

Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:

> On 2022-09-02 20:41:16 +0000, Volney said:
>
> > On 9/2/2022 10:55 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
> >> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 10:46:09 AM UTC-4, Ken Seto wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:02:47 AM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:36:33 PM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com:
> >>>>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> >>>>>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 8:36:01 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com:
> >>>>>>> The speed of anything, including light, is observer dependent.
> >>>>>> Not according to experiment. You are free to fantasise, of course.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> No OWLS over a large distance ever been done.
> >>>>> Why? Because physicists knew that OWLS is anisotropic.
> >>>> No, it's because you don't understand anything.
> >> No, it's because you are indoctrinated in Einstein's failed physics.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why do people who have absolutely ZERO talent for
> >>>> physics insist on "doing physics" is an interesting
> >>>> psychiatric-type question.
> >
> > It is interesting, how they must believe that if someone who has years
> > of education in science and works years in labs can do it, they can sit
> > in their armchairs, and "think" up "answers" just as easily, despite
> > having no relevant education.
> >>
> >> Yes, we reject Einstein's obsolete physics and we came up with real
> >> physics.
> >
> > "We", Stupid Ken? You and your fellow crackpots?
>
> Do Ken and the other crackpots agree with one another? I have the
> impression that we have as many versions of "real physics" as we have
> crackpots.

Some time ago The Guardian reported on a visit
to a Flat-Earthers conference.
Same phenomenon: general agreement that 'Spherism' is all wrong,
complete disagreement about how the phenomena should be saved,
and on how the universe 'really' works.

Jan

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by: Maciej Wozniak - Sun, 4 Sep 2022 12:29 UTC

On Sunday, 4 September 2022 at 10:54:41 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Athel Cornish-Bowden <acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>
> > On 2022-09-02 20:41:16 +0000, Volney said:
> >
> > > On 9/2/2022 10:55 AM, Ken Seto wrote:
> > >> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 10:46:09 AM UTC-4, Ken Seto wrote:
> > >>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:02:47 AM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > >>>> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:36:33 PM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com:
> > >>>>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 8:36:01 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com:
> > >>>>>>> The speed of anything, including light, is observer dependent.
> > >>>>>> Not according to experiment. You are free to fantasise, of course.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> No OWLS over a large distance ever been done.
> > >>>>> Why? Because physicists knew that OWLS is anisotropic.
> > >>>> No, it's because you don't understand anything.
> > >> No, it's because you are indoctrinated in Einstein's failed physics.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Why do people who have absolutely ZERO talent for
> > >>>> physics insist on "doing physics" is an interesting
> > >>>> psychiatric-type question.
> > >
> > > It is interesting, how they must believe that if someone who has years
> > > of education in science and works years in labs can do it, they can sit
> > > in their armchairs, and "think" up "answers" just as easily, despite
> > > having no relevant education.
> > >>
> > >> Yes, we reject Einstein's obsolete physics and we came up with real
> > >> physics.
> > >
> > > "We", Stupid Ken? You and your fellow crackpots?
> >
> > Do Ken and the other crackpots agree with one another? I have the
> > impression that we have as many versions of "real physics" as we have
> > crackpots.
> Some time ago The Guardian reported on a visit
> to a Flat-Earthers conference.
> Same phenomenon: general agreement that 'Spherism' is all wrong,
> complete disagreement about how the phenomena should be saved,
> and on how the universe 'really' works.

Or you: apart of that your idiot guru was absolutely right
you mostly disagree on anything.

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by: J. J. Lodder - Sun, 4 Sep 2022 21:07 UTC

Gabe Carideo <hpen@lwbzgujk.yq> wrote:

> J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
> >> Do Ken and the other crackpots agree with one another? I have the
> >> impression that we have as many versions of "real physics" as we have
> >> crackpots.
> >
> > Some time ago The Guardian reported on a visit to a Flat-Earthers
> > conference.
>
> if there is a conspiracy, the flat_earth would make sense.

The conspiracy is everybody else,
who all hide the flat truth from you.

Jan

--
"There are a million UN troops stationed all around Antarctica.
They will kill anyone who has been near the rim to make sure that no one
will live to tell what he has seen."

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by: Ken Seto - Sun, 4 Sep 2022 23:14 UTC

On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 3:13:45 PM UTC-4, Dinky Traversi wrote:
> Ken Seto wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-4, Dana Belluomi
> > wrote:
> >> Ken Seto wrote:
> >>
> >> > No idiot, he changed the link. The correct link is:
> >> > http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf Notice that there is no
> >> > extra "e" follow "model".
> >> fucked up again with Author Lisa Hayes. It's not you the author of the
> >> theory of everything. It's Lisa Hayes.
> >
> > Lias Hayes was my Editor.....I don't know how she managed to include her
> > name into my work.
> you can't write a paper alone?

I wrote the paper and paid her to read it to correct any grammar mistakes. Gee you are so fucking stupid.stupid..

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by: Ken Seto - Sun, 4 Sep 2022 23:27 UTC

On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 4:31:29 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 8:21:16 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 8:53:27 PM UTC-4, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 5:05:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 7:46:09 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:02:47 AM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:36:33 PM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 8:36:01 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > The speed of anything, including light, is observer dependent.
> > > > > > > > Not according to experiment. You are free to fantasise, of course.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No OWLS over a large distance ever been done.
> > > > > > > Why? Because physicists knew that OWLS is anisotropic.
> > > > > > No, it's because you don't understand anything.
> > > > > No, it's because you are indoctrinated in Einstein's failed physics.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why do people who have absolutely ZERO talent for
> > > > > > physics insist on "doing physics" is an interesting
> > > > > > psychiatric-type question.
> > > > > Yes we reject Einstein's obsolete physics and we came up with real physics.
> > >
> > > > If you have no talent, then your opinion is suspect. So when you
> > > > say "Einstein's obsolete physics", it's just so much word salad.
> > > > Anybody can SAY anything. You've produced nothing to back this up.
> > > Has Ken Seto *ever* backed up any of his claims with evidence? No, I don't think that man even knows >the definition of the word...
> > Hey idiot, I came up with a physical model that includes the following:
> You came up only with gobbledygook. A pseudoscientific diarrhoea.
>
It's a big mistake to ignore my work. MM is the only valid "Theory of Everything" (TOE).
http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
Go head and waste another 100 years trying to come up with a valid TOE. You can't......bbecause MMis the only valid TOE.

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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Sun, 4 Sep 2022 23:35 UTC

On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 4:27:31 PM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 4:31:29 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 8:21:16 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 8:53:27 PM UTC-4, Paul Alsing wrote:
> > > > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 5:05:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 7:46:09 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:02:47 AM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:36:33 PM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 5:46:45 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 8:36:01 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > The speed of anything, including light, is observer dependent.
> > > > > > > > > Not according to experiment. You are free to fantasise, of course.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No OWLS over a large distance ever been done.
> > > > > > > > Why? Because physicists knew that OWLS is anisotropic.
> > > > > > > No, it's because you don't understand anything.
> > > > > > No, it's because you are indoctrinated in Einstein's failed physics.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why do people who have absolutely ZERO talent for
> > > > > > > physics insist on "doing physics" is an interesting
> > > > > > > psychiatric-type question.
> > > > > > Yes we reject Einstein's obsolete physics and we came up with real physics.
> > > >
> > > > > If you have no talent, then your opinion is suspect. So when you
> > > > > say "Einstein's obsolete physics", it's just so much word salad.
> > > > > Anybody can SAY anything. You've produced nothing to back this up.
> > > > Has Ken Seto *ever* backed up any of his claims with evidence? No, I don't think that man even knows >the definition of the word...
> > > Hey idiot, I came up with a physical model that includes the following:
> > You came up only with gobbledygook. A pseudoscientific diarrhoea.
> >
> It's a big mistake to ignore my work. MM is the only valid "Theory of Everything" (TOE).
> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2016ibook.pdf
> Go head and waste another 100 years trying to come up with a valid TOE. You can't......bbecause MMis the only valid TOE.

Everybody has their Big TOE seto. Yours is not any better.
How would you know?

That does not compute.

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Subject	Author
The speed of light is observer dependent	Ken Seto
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Dirk Van de moortel
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Ken Seto
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Dirk Van de moortel
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Paul B. Andersen
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Ken Seto
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Dana Belluomi
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Ken Seto
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Dana Belluomi
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Ken Seto
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Dana Belluomi
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Volney
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Dana Belluomi
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Cash Baldovini
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Volney
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Dana Belluomi
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Dana Belluomi
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Ken Seto
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Dinky Traversi
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Volney
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Ken Seto
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Rand Manco
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Dana Belluomi
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	JanPB
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Maciej Wozniak
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Ken Seto
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	JanPB
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Ken Seto
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Dana Belluomi
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Ken Seto
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Dana Belluomi
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Ken Seto
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Volney
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Athel Cornish-Bowden
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Volney
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Maciej Wozniak
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	J. J. Lodder
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Maciej Wozniak
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Gabe Carideo
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	J. J. Lodder
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	JanPB
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Paul Alsing
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Ken Seto
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Volney
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	JanPB
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Ken Seto
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Dave Benini
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Jay Adriatico
Re: The speed of light is observer dependent	Ken Seto