On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:23:05 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> form a...@groups.io
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> (PDF) Was Man More Aquatic in the Past? Fifty Years after Alister Hardy Waterside Hypotheses of Human Evolution | Mario Vaneechoutte - Academia.edu
>
> Scientists write papers that get published and can't be changed. But some scientists have minds that can be changed. Phillip Tobias was one of these.. After a long career using the savanna paradigm, he went over to the aquatic ape paradigm. Read his inspiring paper, the first one in this book.

Tobias understood people needed freshwater nearby. Some mermaids don't agree.

Op vrijdag 28 mei 2021 om 02:31:57 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:

> > (PDF) Was Man More Aquatic in the Past? Fifty Years after Alister Hardy Waterside Hypotheses of Human Evolution | Mario Vaneechoutte - Academia.edu
> > Scientists write papers that get published and can't be changed. But some scientists have minds that can be changed. Phillip Tobias was one of these. After a long career using the savanna paradigm, he went over to the aquatic ape paradigm. Read his inspiring paper, the first one in this book.

> Tobias understood people needed freshwater nearby. Some mermaids don't agree.

Grow up, DD, Tobias was a lot smarter than you are, and so is David Attenborough & most intelligent PAs.
It's really not difficult:
comparative biology clearly shows:
- Early-Pleistocene archaic Homo, e.g. H.erectus, were predom.shallow-diving, mostly for shellfish,
google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo PPT".
- From the coasts, different populations in different continents then followed rivers/lakes inlands, probably seasonally initially,
as IMO was still the case for H.neanderthalensis.
- Late-Pleistocene H.sapiens: predom.wading bipedally in fresh water (plant & animal foods) -> walking on land.

Ceterum censeo:
only complete idiots still believe their Pleistocene ancestors ran antelopes to exhaustion.

On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 5:55:22 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op vrijdag 28 mei 2021 om 02:31:57 UTC+2 schreef DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
> > > (PDF) Was Man More Aquatic in the Past? Fifty Years after Alister Hardy Waterside Hypotheses of Human Evolution | Mario Vaneechoutte - Academia.edu
> > > Scientists write papers that get published and can't be changed. But some scientists have minds that can be changed. Phillip Tobias was one of these. After a long career using the savanna paradigm, he went over to the aquatic ape paradigm. Read his inspiring paper, the first one in this book.
>
> > Tobias understood people needed freshwater nearby. Some mermaids don't agree.
> Grow up, DD, Tobias was a lot smarter than you are, and so is David Attenborough & most intelligent PAs.
> It's really not difficult:
> comparative biology clearly shows:
> - Early-Pleistocene archaic Homo, e.g. H.erectus, were predom.shallow-diving, mostly for shellfish,
> google "coastal dispersal Pleistocene Homo PPT".
> - From the coasts, different populations in different continents then followed rivers/lakes inlands, probably seasonally initially,
> as IMO was still the case for H.neanderthalensis.
> - Late-Pleistocene H.sapiens: predom.wading bipedally in fresh water (plant & animal foods) -> walking on land.
>
> Ceterum censeo:
> only complete idiots still believe their Pleistocene ancestors ran antelopes to exhaustion.

Oh my, I forgot the murky monkey, sorry.

Tobias understood people needed freshwater nearby.
Some mermaids and the murky monkey don't think freshwater (or constructed shelter) was significant.
Too much salt induces delerium?
- France is apologizing for its role in the Rwandan genocide.
Germany is apologizing for its role in the Namib genocide.
When will Belgium applogize for its role in Congo genocide?

DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:23:05 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
>> form a...@groups.io
>>
>> (PDF) Was Man More Aquatic in the Past? Fifty Years after Alister Hardy Waterside Hypotheses of Human Evolution | Mario Vaneechoutte - Academia.edu
>>
>> Scientists write papers that get published and can't be changed. But some scientists have minds that can be changed. Phillip Tobias was one of these. After a long career using the savanna paradigm, he went over to the aquatic ape paradigm. Read his inspiring paper, the first one in this book.
>
> Tobias understood people needed freshwater nearby. Some mermaids don't agree.
>

*Many* animal species need freashwater nearby. Predators find them to be
great for hunting.

søndag den 30. maj 2021 kl. 06.04.36 UTC+2 skrev Primum Sapienti:
> DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:23:05 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> form a...@groups.io
> >>
> >> (PDF) Was Man More Aquatic in the Past? Fifty Years after Alister Hardy Waterside Hypotheses of Human Evolution | Mario Vaneechoutte - Academia.edu
> >>
> >> Scientists write papers that get published and can't be changed. But some scientists have minds that can be changed. Phillip Tobias was one of these. After a long career using the savanna paradigm, he went over to the aquatic ape paradigm. Read his inspiring paper, the first one in this book.
> >
> > Tobias understood people needed freshwater nearby. Some mermaids don't agree.
> >
> *Many* animal species need freashwater nearby. Predators find them to be
> great for hunting.

Elephants use the water to bathe. Because they have semiaquatic ancestry too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByG8gZ2lvd4

On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:04:36 AM UTC-4, Primum Sapienti wrote:
> DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:23:05 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> form a...@groups.io
> >>
> >> (PDF) Was Man More Aquatic in the Past? Fifty Years after Alister Hardy Waterside Hypotheses of Human Evolution | Mario Vaneechoutte - Academia.edu
> >>
> >> Scientists write papers that get published and can't be changed. But some scientists have minds that can be changed. Phillip Tobias was one of these. After a long career using the savanna paradigm, he went over to the aquatic ape paradigm. Read his inspiring paper, the first one in this book.
> >
> > Tobias understood people needed freshwater nearby. Some mermaids don't agree.
> >
> *Many* animal species need freashwater nearby. Predators find them to be
> great for hunting.
Yes. But Homo evolved a further behavior: communal portable ground shelter construction, not in water, not in littoral zone, not at waterside, but typically within 50m of freshwater but not crocs.

On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 5:55:58 AM UTC-4, C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> søndag den 30. maj 2021 kl. 06.04.36 UTC+2 skrev Primum Sapienti:
> > DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:23:05 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> form a...@groups.io
> > >>
> > >> (PDF) Was Man More Aquatic in the Past? Fifty Years after Alister Hardy Waterside Hypotheses of Human Evolution | Mario Vaneechoutte - Academia..edu
> > >>
> > >> Scientists write papers that get published and can't be changed. But some scientists have minds that can be changed. Phillip Tobias was one of these. After a long career using the savanna paradigm, he went over to the aquatic ape paradigm. Read his inspiring paper, the first one in this book.
> > >
> > > Tobias understood people needed freshwater nearby. Some mermaids don't agree.
> > >
> > *Many* animal species need freashwater nearby. Predators find them to be
> > great for hunting.
> Elephants use the water to bathe. Because they have semiaquatic ancestry too.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByG8gZ2lvd4
Crocs don't tangle with elephant herds. Elephant herds don't tangle with bee swarms.

tirsdag den 1. juni 2021 kl. 10.51.53 UTC+2 skrev DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves:
> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:04:36 AM UTC-4, Primum Sapienti wrote:
> > DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:23:05 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> form a...@groups.io
> > >>
> > >> (PDF) Was Man More Aquatic in the Past? Fifty Years after Alister Hardy Waterside Hypotheses of Human Evolution | Mario Vaneechoutte - Academia..edu
> > >>
> > >> Scientists write papers that get published and can't be changed. But some scientists have minds that can be changed. Phillip Tobias was one of these. After a long career using the savanna paradigm, he went over to the aquatic ape paradigm. Read his inspiring paper, the first one in this book.
> > >
> > > Tobias understood people needed freshwater nearby. Some mermaids don't agree.
> > >
> > *Many* animal species need freashwater nearby. Predators find them to be
> > great for hunting.
> Yes. But Homo evolved a further behavior: communal portable ground shelter construction, not in water, not in littoral zone, not at waterside, but typically within 50m of freshwater but not crocs.

Uhuh.

C. H. Engelbrecht wrote:
> søndag den 30. maj 2021 kl. 06.04.36 UTC+2 skrev Primum Sapienti:
>> DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:23:05 AM UTC-4, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> form a...@groups.io
>>>>
>>>> (PDF) Was Man More Aquatic in the Past? Fifty Years after Alister Hardy Waterside Hypotheses of Human Evolution | Mario Vaneechoutte - Academia.edu
>>>>
>>>> Scientists write papers that get published and can't be changed. But some scientists have minds that can be changed. Phillip Tobias was one of these. After a long career using the savanna paradigm, he went over to the aquatic ape paradigm. Read his inspiring paper, the first one in this book.
>>>
>>> Tobias understood people needed freshwater nearby. Some mermaids don't agree.
>>>
>> *Many* animal species need freashwater nearby. Predators find them to be
>> great for hunting.
>
> Elephants use the water to bathe. Because they have semiaquatic ancestry too.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByG8gZ2lvd4
>
ANother quadruped. Ok, and?