On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:29:27 AM UTC-4, Don wrote:
> Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
> > onsdag den 20. april 2022 kl. 23.29.25 UTC+2 skrev Ricky:
> >> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 3:09:35 PM UTC-4, Don wrote:
> >> > Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >
> >> > <snip>
> >> > > Since you know so much about them, why does mine have some copper fins
> >> > > and some aluminium? Surely either one or the other is better? Or is
> >> > > it just to make it look pretty?
> >> > Good question. For decades now, Intel retailed bi-metallic CPU coolers
> >> > with copper baseplates and aluminum fins:
> >> >
> >> > https://crcomp.net/misc/heatsink/bottom.png
> >> > https://crcomp.net/misc/heatsink/top.png
> >> >
> >> > The coolers shown above are intended for use in a "beige box." The
> >> > cooler fan on top of the copper core and the CPU beneath it obscure all
> >> > aesthetic aspects.
> >> > Perhaps the copper provides superior thermal conductivity while the
> >> > aluminum offers greater mechanical strength?
> >> I don't think copper is not strong enough for a heat sink, but it's
> >> freaking heavy compared to aluminum. You can only bolt so much weight
> >> onto these boards before it causes problems. The copper base is great
> >> for spreading the heat out to the fins, but the fins don't need to be
> >> so highly conductive to carry their portion of the heat and couple it
> >> to the air.
> >>
> > https://youtu.be/Q7qVpWu2QYs
> >
> > but as you say, once the heat has been spread over a larger area there
> > is probably not much benefit from expensive copper
>
> Here's a solid copper server cooler shown next to a light-weight desktop
> bi-metallic:
>
> https://crcomp.net/misc/heatsink/serverdesktop.png
>
> The copper cooler weighs 989 g versus 256 g for the bi-metallic. The
> metal standoffs of the heavier cooler are designed to pass through over-
> sized motherboard holes and bolt directly to a server chassis. The
> lighter aluminum cooler uses plastic standoffs to secure itself directly
> to a desktop motherboard instead.
> Both copper and aluminum fins feel firm to the touch.

I often get crosstalk from other threads when I try to post. I'm curious as to which thread the post will actually land in.

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:00:54 PM UTC-4, Ricky wrote:
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:29:27 AM UTC-4, Don wrote:
> > Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
> > > onsdag den 20. april 2022 kl. 23.29.25 UTC+2 skrev Ricky:
> > >> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 3:09:35 PM UTC-4, Don wrote:
> > >> > Commander Kinsey wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > <snip>
> > >> > > Since you know so much about them, why does mine have some copper fins
> > >> > > and some aluminium? Surely either one or the other is better? Or is
> > >> > > it just to make it look pretty?
> > >> > Good question. For decades now, Intel retailed bi-metallic CPU coolers
> > >> > with copper baseplates and aluminum fins:
> > >> >
> > >> > https://crcomp.net/misc/heatsink/bottom.png
> > >> > https://crcomp.net/misc/heatsink/top.png
> > >> >
> > >> > The coolers shown above are intended for use in a "beige box." The
> > >> > cooler fan on top of the copper core and the CPU beneath it obscure all
> > >> > aesthetic aspects.
> > >> > Perhaps the copper provides superior thermal conductivity while the
> > >> > aluminum offers greater mechanical strength?
> > >> I don't think copper is not strong enough for a heat sink, but it's
> > >> freaking heavy compared to aluminum. You can only bolt so much weight
> > >> onto these boards before it causes problems. The copper base is great
> > >> for spreading the heat out to the fins, but the fins don't need to be
> > >> so highly conductive to carry their portion of the heat and couple it
> > >> to the air.
> > >>
> > > https://youtu.be/Q7qVpWu2QYs
> > >
> > > but as you say, once the heat has been spread over a larger area there
> > > is probably not much benefit from expensive copper
> >
> > Here's a solid copper server cooler shown next to a light-weight desktop
> > bi-metallic:
> >
> > https://crcomp.net/misc/heatsink/serverdesktop.png
> >
> > The copper cooler weighs 989 g versus 256 g for the bi-metallic. The
> > metal standoffs of the heavier cooler are designed to pass through over-
> > sized motherboard holes and bolt directly to a server chassis. The
> > lighter aluminum cooler uses plastic standoffs to secure itself directly
> > to a desktop motherboard instead.
> > Both copper and aluminum fins feel firm to the touch.
> I often get crosstalk from other threads when I try to post. I'm curious as to which thread the post will actually land in.

Interesting, this post was made while viewing the Tesla is Fast thread.

On Sun, 15 May 2022 20:03:34 +0100, Ricky <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:00:54 PM UTC-4, Ricky wrote:
>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:29:27 AM UTC-4, Don wrote:
>> > Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
>> > > onsdag den 20. april 2022 kl. 23.29.25 UTC+2 skrev Ricky:
>> > >> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 3:09:35 PM UTC-4, Don wrote:
>> > >> > Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > <snip>
>> > >> > > Since you know so much about them, why does mine have some copper fins
>> > >> > > and some aluminium? Surely either one or the other is better? Or is
>> > >> > > it just to make it look pretty?
>> > >> > Good question. For decades now, Intel retailed bi-metallic CPU coolers
>> > >> > with copper baseplates and aluminum fins:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > https://crcomp.net/misc/heatsink/bottom.png
>> > >> > https://crcomp.net/misc/heatsink/top.png
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The coolers shown above are intended for use in a "beige box." The
>> > >> > cooler fan on top of the copper core and the CPU beneath it obscure all
>> > >> > aesthetic aspects.
>> > >> > Perhaps the copper provides superior thermal conductivity while the
>> > >> > aluminum offers greater mechanical strength?
>> > >> I don't think copper is not strong enough for a heat sink, but it's
>> > >> freaking heavy compared to aluminum. You can only bolt so much weight
>> > >> onto these boards before it causes problems. The copper base is great
>> > >> for spreading the heat out to the fins, but the fins don't need to be
>> > >> so highly conductive to carry their portion of the heat and couple it
>> > >> to the air.
>> > >>
>> > > https://youtu.be/Q7qVpWu2QYs
>> > >
>> > > but as you say, once the heat has been spread over a larger area there
>> > > is probably not much benefit from expensive copper
>> >
>> > Here's a solid copper server cooler shown next to a light-weight desktop
>> > bi-metallic:
>> >
>> > https://crcomp.net/misc/heatsink/serverdesktop.png
>> >
>> > The copper cooler weighs 989 g versus 256 g for the bi-metallic. The
>> > metal standoffs of the heavier cooler are designed to pass through over-
>> > sized motherboard holes and bolt directly to a server chassis. The
>> > lighter aluminum cooler uses plastic standoffs to secure itself directly
>> > to a desktop motherboard instead.
>> > Both copper and aluminum fins feel firm to the touch.
>> I often get crosstalk from other threads when I try to post. I'm curious as to which thread the post will actually land in.
>
> Interesting, this post was made while viewing the Tesla is Fast thread.

Are you drunk?

El lunes, 16 de mayo de 2022 a las 9:18:13 UTC+2, Commander Kinsey escribió:
> On Sun, 15 May 2022 20:03:34 +0100, Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:00:54 PM UTC-4, Ricky wrote:
> >> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:29:27 AM UTC-4, Don wrote:
> >> > Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
> >> > > onsdag den 20. april 2022 kl. 23.29.25 UTC+2 skrev Ricky:
> >> > >> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 3:09:35 PM UTC-4, Don wrote:
> >> > >> > Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > <snip>
> >> > >> > > Since you know so much about them, why does mine have some copper fins
> >> > >> > > and some aluminium? Surely either one or the other is better? Or is
> >> > >> > > it just to make it look pretty?
> >> > >> > Good question. For decades now, Intel retailed bi-metallic CPU coolers
> >> > >> > with copper baseplates and aluminum fins:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > https://crcomp.net/misc/heatsink/bottom.png
> >> > >> > https://crcomp.net/misc/heatsink/top.png
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > The coolers shown above are intended for use in a "beige box." The
> >> > >> > cooler fan on top of the copper core and the CPU beneath it obscure all
> >> > >> > aesthetic aspects.
> >> > >> > Perhaps the copper provides superior thermal conductivity while the
> >> > >> > aluminum offers greater mechanical strength?
> >> > >> I don't think copper is not strong enough for a heat sink, but it's
> >> > >> freaking heavy compared to aluminum. You can only bolt so much weight
> >> > >> onto these boards before it causes problems. The copper base is great
> >> > >> for spreading the heat out to the fins, but the fins don't need to be
> >> > >> so highly conductive to carry their portion of the heat and couple it
> >> > >> to the air.
> >> > >>
> >> > > https://youtu.be/Q7qVpWu2QYs
> >> > >
> >> > > but as you say, once the heat has been spread over a larger area there
> >> > > is probably not much benefit from expensive copper
> >> >
> >> > Here's a solid copper server cooler shown next to a light-weight desktop
> >> > bi-metallic:
> >> >
> >> > https://crcomp.net/misc/heatsink/serverdesktop.png
> >> >
> >> > The copper cooler weighs 989 g versus 256 g for the bi-metallic. The
> >> > metal standoffs of the heavier cooler are designed to pass through over-
> >> > sized motherboard holes and bolt directly to a server chassis. The
> >> > lighter aluminum cooler uses plastic standoffs to secure itself directly
> >> > to a desktop motherboard instead.
> >> > Both copper and aluminum fins feel firm to the touch.
> >> I often get crosstalk from other threads when I try to post. I'm curious as to which thread the post will actually land in.
> >
> > Interesting, this post was made while viewing the Tesla is Fast thread.
> Are you drunk?
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