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 by: Commander Kinsey - Mon, 16 May 2022 01:58 UTC

On Sun, 15 May 2022 10:09:18 +0100, whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 10:26:57 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>
>> As Lithium runs out, the prices will skyrocket.
>
> Nonsense, but of course someone selling you an investment opportunity won't tell
> you that.
>
> Lithium is mined from dried-up sea beds, because some of the dried salts have useful
> concentrations of that element There's lots of those, and the most economic are being
> mined now, while the next-most-economic will be mined in a decade. The metal isn't
> rare, and the price will disappoint investors who buy today at a big premium.

I quote er.... you, with "the most economic are being mined now" - it's gonna get very hard soon to mine it, so the price will shoot up.

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On 05/15/2022 02:22 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
> On Sunday, 15 May 2022 at 00:04:22 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
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>>> Then there is the issue that you are only talking about purchase price, not the life cycle cost. That's the talk of an ignoramus.
>> If you want to go that route, electric cars have that annoying habit of needing a new battery.
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> No they don't - no more than conventional cars need new engines.
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> kw
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My 1986 F150 doesn't need a new engine. Do you really think a battery is
going to last 36 years?

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 by: Commander Kinsey - Mon, 16 May 2022 07:07 UTC

On Mon, 16 May 2022 06:25:06 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On 05/15/2022 02:22 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, 15 May 2022 at 00:04:22 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
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>>>> Then there is the issue that you are only talking about purchase price, not the life cycle cost. That's the talk of an ignoramus.
>>> If you want to go that route, electric cars have that annoying habit of needing a new battery.
>>
>> No they don't - no more than conventional cars need new engines.
>
> My 1986 F150 doesn't need a new engine. Do you really think a battery is
> going to last 36 years?

They don't even last beyond 5 years.

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On Sun, 15 May 2022 16:42:24 +0100, StupidAs StupidGet <buildbetterbilly@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 6:55:38 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 11:04:30 PM UTC+10, Ricky wrote:
>> > On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 1:26:57 AM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> > > On Sun, 15 May 2022 01:46:22 +0100, ke...@kjwdesigns.com <ke...@kjwdesigns.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Friday, 13 May 2022 at 19:43:51 UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
>> > > >> On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 7:18:45 PM UTC-7, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
>> > > >> > The cost and energy requirement to manufacture the batteries continues to drop - it is below $100 per kWh now from many times that ten years ago.
>> > > >> I don't think the Tesla (50kWh) battery cost below $5000.
>> > > >
>> > > > Probably not but the battery costs are declining and like likely to go further (albeit with blips caused by current world problems)
>> > > >
>> > > > https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1134307_report-ev-battery-costs-might-rise-in-2022
>> > > As Lithium runs out, the prices will skyrocket. And what world problems? There aren't any real ones, just ones caused by silly governments.
>> > This guy just digs himself in a hole, deeper and deeper, showing his extreme ignorance.
>> >
>> > He reminds me of DLUNU or whatever goofy name the guy goes by. I think people call him "always wrong". I think there's a new owner of that title.
>> Decadent Linux User Numero Uno has his vices, but ignorance isn't one of them. Krw liked to label him "always wrong" but the tittle fitted krw a whole lot better.
>
> Don't know if he is "always wrong", but he is "always foul month nasty scumbag".

Sissy.

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On Sun, 15 May 2022 14:04:24 +0100, Ricky <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 1:26:57 AM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 May 2022 01:46:22 +0100, ke...@kjwdesigns.com <ke...@kjwdesigns.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Friday, 13 May 2022 at 19:43:51 UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
>> >> On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 7:18:45 PM UTC-7, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
>> >> > The cost and energy requirement to manufacture the batteries continues to drop - it is below $100 per kWh now from many times that ten years ago.
>> >> I don't think the Tesla (50kWh) battery cost below $5000.
>> >
>> > Probably not but the battery costs are declining and like likely to go further (albeit with blips caused by current world problems)
>> >
>> > https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1134307_report-ev-battery-costs-might-rise-in-2022
>> As Lithium runs out, the prices will skyrocket. And what world problems? There aren't any real ones, just ones caused by silly governments.
>
> This guy just digs himself in a hole, deeper and deeper, showing his extreme ignorance.
>
> He reminds me of DLUNU or whatever goofy name the guy goes by. I think people call him "always wrong". I think there's a new owner of that title.

Thanks for proving you have no evidence to support your counter argument. You lose. Again.

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> On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 3:25:13 PM UTC+10, rbowman wrote:
>> On 05/15/2022 02:22 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
>> > On Sunday, 15 May 2022 at 00:04:22 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> > ...
>> >>> Then there is the issue that you are only talking about purchase price, not the life cycle cost. That's the talk of an ignoramus.
>> >> If you want to go that route, electric cars have that annoying habit of needing a new battery.
>> >
>> > No they don't - no more than conventional cars need new engines.
>>
>> My 1986 F150 doesn't need a new engine. Do you really think a battery is going to last 36 years?
>
> How may miles have you put on it? If you had only bought it because you had a very small penis, it might not have done very many at all.
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>> On Sun, 15 May 2022 06:10:59 +0100, Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 11:59:20 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 15 May 2022 01:06:28 +0100, Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 10:36:15 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Sat, 14 May 2022 03:18:40 +0100, ke...@kjwdesigns.com <ke...@kjwdesigns.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 08:38:18 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Thu, 12 May 2022 07:32:34 +0100, Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >
>> > You are an ignoramus because you want to compare high end electric cars to the world's cheapest ICE car that very few people buy.
>> No, I want to compare cars with the same range. Most electric cars have un-unusable range.
>
> So nobody ever buys them.
>
>> > In your ignorant mind this is a reasonable comparison, like the guy who bitches about BEVs
>
> Battery Electric Vehicles
>
>> > never being practical because he only buys old, used cars for $5,000 or less, as if there will never be a used BEV at that price.
>> I actually compared new cars above, do pay attention at the back.
>
> But not a new car that you can now buy in the UK.
>
>> > No one cares if I insult an ignoramus, especially god. In fact, I probably earn bonus points.
>>
>> But what if you're incorrect in your estimation of my ignoramity?
>
> He may well underestimate it. You are clearly ignorant enough to earn him bonus points. The only question is how many.
>
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> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 1:59:20 PM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 May 2022 01:06:28 +0100, Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 10:36:15 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 14 May 2022 03:18:40 +0100, ke...@kjwdesigns.com <ke...@kjwdesigns.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 08:38:18 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, 12 May 2022 07:32:34 +0100, Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 9:38:46 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 12:58:47 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote:
>> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 7:34:43 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > On Thu, 12 May 2022 02:46:24 +0100,...> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > > On Wednesday, 11 May 2022 at 15:42:36 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> >> > Range is just not an issue for most drivers although it does take a different mindset from the traditional don't fill up until empty approach of conventional vehicles.
>> >> It's a problem for every single driver. Most people do not drive 2 miles to the post office. By the way that range drops like a stone as the battery ages. My petrol tank doesn't age.
>> >
>> > This is the silly talk we typically get from this poster.
>>
>> What's silly about what I said? Most people will drive a long distance to commute, go on holiday, etc. And I assume you realise batteries don't retain the range they had at manufacture.
>
> Battery life has improved rapidly in the past few years.
>
>> >> > When the fuel cost is included electric cars competitive on price even with average cars like a Toyota Camry. The average new car cost in the US has risen to about $47,000. The cost of a base Tesla Model 3 is $46,990.
>> >>
>> >> WTF are you doing paying $47K for a petrol car? I could buy 6 cars for that.
>
> Except that it looks as if you couldn't by 6 new cars for that.
>
>> >> > The absence of regular servicing is very convenient - I have had mine for just about 4 years and it hasn't been to the dealer once. Whereas my Prius has required 8 services in that time according to the manual.
>> >>
>> >> Ignore the manual. Take the car to the garage when it goes wrong.
>
> More idiot advice from the wanker.
>
>> >> > The cost and energy requirement to manufacture the batteries continues to drop - it is below $100 per kWh now from many times that ten years ago.
>> >> Then I will wait another 10 years.
>> >
>> > No, you should wait another hundred years. I want to see your grip on the steering wheel fossilized.
>>
>> You don't seriously want self driving cars where you just act as a bored passenger do you?
>
> Bore drivers don't pay enough attention either.
>
>> > It is hard to find a more ignorant person, even in this group.
>>
>> It's amazing you just insult me without any information explaining why you think your viewpoint is correct.
>
> You've been spelling out your ignorance here for weeks. It has been noticeable.
>
>> But then you are a religious fuckwit of the third degree. Hang on, won't you go to hell for being nasty to me?
>
> Probably not. Warning other people about dangerous lunatics is a virtuous action.
>
>> You'd better go say hail Marys or give the priest a blowjob or whatever nonsense goes on in there.
>
> More bad advice.
>
> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney
>
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Bozo is a chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with. Its fiction never ends.

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> On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 12:36:15 PM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 03:18:40 +0100, ke...@kjwdesigns.com <ke...@kjwdesign
> s.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 08:38:18 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 12 May 2022 07:32:34 +0100, Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrot
> e:
>> >>
>> >> > On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 9:38:46 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wr
> ote:
>> >> >> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 12:58:47 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote:
>> >> >> > On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 7:34:43 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey
> wrote:
>> >> >> > > On Thu, 12 May 2022 02:46:24 +0100,...> wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > > On Wednesday, 11 May 2022 at 15:42:36 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey
> wrote:
>> >> >> > > > ...
>> >> >> > > >> > Why are they needed? What problem are you trying to solve?
>
>> >> >> > > >> The problem frequently in the news where people's houses cat
> ch fire due to a fault in a charger/torch/etc. Nickel batteries get very hot, Lithium ones explode in a fireball, setting everything around it alight. Liquid lithium at a few thousand degrees was once fired through someone's hands while typing on a laptop.
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > I seriously doubt there was any liquid lithium ejected from t
> he burning battery. The lithium does not exist separately it is bound in the electrodes and there is less than a gram per 18650 cell.
>> >> >> > > Something hot and liquid came out.
>> >> >> > > > The electrolyte is highly flammable and liquid or a paste tha
> t could cause burns.
>> >> >> > > Could have been it, the point is people get burnt and surroundi
> ng things catch fire. I've even seen a video of someone falling down some concrete stairs outdoors in an icy winter, with his mobile phone in his back pocket, which erupted. These batteries are a piece of shit.
>> >> >> > > >> > Do you think this feature is free?
>> >> >> > > >> The cost only adds 10% to the battery approximately.
>> >> >> > I doubt it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > https://www.sanwulasers.com/product/18650
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Unprotected: $15
>> >> >> > Protected: $25
>> >> >> The difference in retail price hasn't got much to do with the cost
> of the extra hardware, and everything to do with what the customer will pay for it.
>> >> >
>> >> > Of course nobody is paying $15 per cell, or it would cost $100,000 f
> or each Tesla. I would think that Tesla's cost of production is around $5 and protection circuit would be more like 30% to 40% in addition cost.
>> >> Unless it magically gets cheaper, Lithium batteries are not economical
> ly viable for a car. You either have shit range, or the car costs triple what a petrol one would.
>> >
>> > For some of portions of the car market the price is already competitive
> and the other features are similar or better. For example the Tesla Model 3 vs a BMW 3 series - https://www.motor1.com/reviews/378302/bmw-3-series-tesla-model-3-comparison/.
>> A BMW is not a sensible car.
>
> Neither is a Tesla.
>
>> Now please look at cars that cost what they're worth. The cheapest petrol
> car brand new and the cheapest electric car brand new that go a decent mileage (a few hundred miles), are ��6K and ��25K. Electric is a nice idea, but it's nowhere near ready for the public to use.
>
> Apples and pears.
>
>> Lithium Ion is not suitable for such a massive amount of power storage.
>
> It works just fine. You want to redefine "suitable" to mean "agreeable with Commander Kinsey's prejudices".
>
>> > Range is just not an issue for most drivers although it does take a dif
> ferent mindset from the traditional don't fill up until empty approach of conventional vehicles.
>>
>> It's a problem for every single driver. Most people do not drive 2 miles
> to the post office. By the way that range drops like a stone as the battery ages. My petrol tank doesn't age.
>
> Electric care batteries are ageing a lot more slowly than they used to. Commander Kinsey is behind the game. as usual.
>
>> > When the fuel cost is included electric cars competitive on price even
> with average cars like a Toyota Camry. The average new car cost in the US has risen to about $47,000. The cost of a base Tesla Model 3 is $46,990.
>
>> WTF are you doing paying $47K for a petrol car? I could buy 6 cars for th
> at.
>
> And would be silly enough to do it.
>
>> > The absence of regular servicing is very convenient - I have had mine f
> or just about 4 years and it hasn't been to the dealer once. Whereas my Prius has required 8 services in that time according to the manual.
>>
>> Ignore the manual. Take the car to the garage when it goes wrong.
>
> Commander Kinsey does take the ignorant half-wit approach to car maintenance.
>
>> > The cost and energy requirement to manufacture the batteries continues
> to drop - it is below $100 per kWh now from many times that ten years ago.
>>
>> Then I will wait another 10 years.
>
> Probably not a wise choice, but Commander Kinsey clearly isn't wise.
>
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>
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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 16 May 2022 09:02:47 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t5t3vm$md8$2@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 60.9% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1395 articles to USENET. Of which 149 have been pure insults and
701 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

Px1RMM5SmZuZ

Re: Tesla is fast

<sJogK.2578774$X81.919603@usenetxs.com>

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 by: Edward Hernandez - Mon, 16 May 2022 09:22 UTC

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Mon, 16 May 2022 09:04:20 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t5t42k$md8$3@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 60.9% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1395 articles to USENET. Of which 149 have been pure insults and
701 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

cXdmoc+hiSO+

Re: Tesla is fast

<tJogK.2578775$X81.1504843@usenetxs.com>

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From: dtgame...@gmail.com (Edward Hernandez)
Subject: Re: Tesla is fast
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 by: Edward Hernandez - Mon, 16 May 2022 09:22 UTC

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Mon, 16 May 2022 09:06:44 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t5t474$md8$4@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 60.9% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1395 articles to USENET. Of which 149 have been pure insults and
701 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

GWAjJcLlSdX9

Re: Tesla is fast

<vJogK.2578776$X81.1872164@usenetxs.com>

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 by: Edward Hernandez - Mon, 16 May 2022 09:22 UTC

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 16 May 2022 09:07:30 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t5t48i$md8$5@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 60.9% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1395 articles to USENET. Of which 149 have been pure insults and
701 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

Rplbnei6tCWM

Re: Tesla is fast

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 by: rbowman - Mon, 16 May 2022 13:54 UTC

On 05/16/2022 12:24 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 3:25:13 PM UTC+10, rbowman wrote:
>> On 05/15/2022 02:22 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 15 May 2022 at 00:04:22 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>> Then there is the issue that you are only talking about purchase price, not the life cycle cost. That's the talk of an ignoramus.
>>>> If you want to go that route, electric cars have that annoying habit of needing a new battery.
>>>
>>> No they don't - no more than conventional cars need new engines.
>>
>> My 1986 F150 doesn't need a new engine. Do you really think a battery is going to last 36 years?
>
> How may miles have you put on it? If you had only bought it because you had a very small penis, it might not have done very many at all.
>

You seem to have quite the interest in penises. About 250,000 miles
since you asked. It's been to all four corners of the continental US and
a hell of a lot of places in between.

Re: Tesla is fast

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 by: John Doe - Mon, 16 May 2022 14:51 UTC

Eddie wants so badly to nym-shift. That's a no-no here, Eddie!

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
John Doe <always.look@message.header> (astraweb)
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

--
Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

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> On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 11:54:13 PM UTC+10, rbowman wrote:
>> On 05/16/2022 12:24 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>> > On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 3:25:13 PM UTC+10, rbowman wrote:
>> >> On 05/15/2022 02:22 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
>> >>> On Sunday, 15 May 2022 at 00:04:22 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >>> ...
>> >>>>> Then there is the issue that you are only talking about purchase price, not the life cycle cost. That's the talk of an ignoramus.
>> >>>> If you want to go that route, electric cars have that annoying habit of needing a new battery.
>> >>>
>> >>> No they don't - no more than conventional cars need new engines.
>> >>
>> >> My 1986 F150 doesn't need a new engine. Do you really think a battery is going to last 36 years?
>> >
>> > How may miles have you put on it? If you had only bought it because you had a very small penis, it might not have done very many at all.
>> >
>> You seem to have quite the interest in penises.
>
> Scarcely. It's a trite and cliched reaction to any ostentatiously bulky vehicle.
>
>> About 250,000 miles since you asked. It's been to all four corners of the continental US and a hell of a lot of places in between.
>
> Why did you need an ostentatiously bulky vehicle to do that?
>
> --
> Bill Sloman, Sydney
>
>

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 by: John Doe - Mon, 16 May 2022 14:51 UTC

Eddie wants so badly to nym-shift. That's a no-no here, Eddie!

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
John Doe <always.look@message.header> (astraweb)
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

--
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> The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
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>> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
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> And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
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>> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
>> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
>> CLUELESS...
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> And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
> formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
> Mon, 16 May 2022 09:04:20 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
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> NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.
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>> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
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> follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.
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>

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 by: John Doe - Mon, 16 May 2022 14:51 UTC

Eddie wants so badly to nym-shift. That's a no-no here, Eddie!

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
John Doe <always.look@message.header> (astraweb)
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

--
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:

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> The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
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>> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
>> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
>> CLUELESS...
>
> And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
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> Mon, 16 May 2022 09:06:44 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
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> NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.
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>
>> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
>> except insults to this group.
>
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> USENET (**) has been 60.9% of its posts contributing "nothing except
> insults" to USENET.
>
> ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
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> 701 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.
>
> This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
> readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
> follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.
>
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 by: John Doe - Mon, 16 May 2022 14:52 UTC

Eddie wants so badly to nym-shift. That's a no-no here, Eddie!

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
John Doe <always.look@message.header> (astraweb)
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

--
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:

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>
> And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
> <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
>> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
>> CLUELESS...
>
> And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
> incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 16 May 2022 09:07:30 -0000
> (UTC) in message-id <t5t48i$md8$5@dont-email.me>.
>
> Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
> <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
> (UTC):
>
>> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
>> except insults to this group.
>
> Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
> USENET (**) has been 60.9% of its posts contributing "nothing except
> insults" to USENET.
>
> ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
> least 1395 articles to USENET. Of which 149 have been pure insults and
> 701 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.
>
> Rplbnei6tCWM
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Re: Tesla is fast

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 16 May 2022 14:51:37 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t5todp$p9t$1@dont-email.me>.

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 61.0% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
least 1399 articles to USENET. Of which 149 have been pure insults and
705 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

x+4+gGuZ8znj

Re: Tesla is fast

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 by: Edward Hernandez - Mon, 16 May 2022 15:02 UTC

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 16 May 2022 14:51:48 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t5toe4$p9t$2@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 61.0% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1399 articles to USENET. Of which 149 have been pure insults and
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vnpIrPEXXgLw

Re: Tesla is fast

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 by: Edward Hernandez - Mon, 16 May 2022 15:02 UTC

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 16 May 2022 14:51:59 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t5toee$p9t$3@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 61.0% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1399 articles to USENET. Of which 149 have been pure insults and
705 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

JJy7fO4Up/hN

Re: Tesla is fast

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 16 May 2022 14:52:10 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t5toep$p9t$4@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 61.0% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1399 articles to USENET. Of which 149 have been pure insults and
705 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
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 by: Ricky - Mon, 16 May 2022 15:16 UTC

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 9:58:52 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2022 10:09:18 +0100, whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 10:26:57 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >
> >> As Lithium runs out, the prices will skyrocket.
> >
> > Nonsense, but of course someone selling you an investment opportunity won't tell
> > you that.
> >
> > Lithium is mined from dried-up sea beds, because some of the dried salts have useful
> > concentrations of that element There's lots of those, and the most economic are being
> > mined now, while the next-most-economic will be mined in a decade. The metal isn't
> > rare, and the price will disappoint investors who buy today at a big premium.
> I quote er.... you, with "the most economic are being mined now" - it's gonna get very hard soon to mine it, so the price will shoot up.

How can one person be so stupid? When stupidity was being handed out, I think he took the ration of a hundred others.

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 by: Ricky - Mon, 16 May 2022 15:23 UTC

On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 1:25:13 AM UTC-4, rbowman wrote:
> On 05/15/2022 02:22 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, 15 May 2022 at 00:04:22 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> > ...
> >>> Then there is the issue that you are only talking about purchase price, not the life cycle cost. That's the talk of an ignoramus.
> >> If you want to go that route, electric cars have that annoying habit of needing a new battery.
> >
> > No they don't - no more than conventional cars need new engines.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > kw
> >
> My 1986 F150 doesn't need a new engine. Do you really think a battery is
> going to last 36 years?

Do they need to? I don't know many vehicles that last 36 years and when they do, it's because they aren't driven all that much. The US average is 14,000 miles per year. I you drove the average this vehicle would have 504,000 miles. Not impossible, but very unusual for an ICE. Trucks tend to be made more robust than cars and get much worse fuel mileage.

So let's talk passenger vehicles, which is the real topic of conversation. For a well built BEV, there's no reason why they can't last like an ICE. The batteries in most BEVs are warrantied for 100,000 or more miles. Do you believe they are going to drop out of the car shortly after that?

Why do so many people just want to drop sound bites rather than actually discussing a topic?

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 by: Ricky - Mon, 16 May 2022 15:26 UTC

On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 9:54:13 AM UTC-4, rbowman wrote:
> On 05/16/2022 12:24 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> > On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 3:25:13 PM UTC+10, rbowman wrote:
> >> On 05/15/2022 02:22 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 15 May 2022 at 00:04:22 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >>> ...
> >>>>> Then there is the issue that you are only talking about purchase price, not the life cycle cost. That's the talk of an ignoramus.
> >>>> If you want to go that route, electric cars have that annoying habit of needing a new battery.
> >>>
> >>> No they don't - no more than conventional cars need new engines.
> >>
> >> My 1986 F150 doesn't need a new engine. Do you really think a battery is going to last 36 years?
> >
> > How may miles have you put on it? If you had only bought it because you had a very small penis, it might not have done very many at all.
> >
> You seem to have quite the interest in penises. About 250,000 miles
> since you asked. It's been to all four corners of the continental US and
> a hell of a lot of places in between.

All of which is irrelevant. 250,000 miles is nothing unique. Both of my pickups got around that. One was in an accident and the other stolen. You are driving around 7,000 miles a year, half the national average. You may qualify for a discount on your insurance for low mileage.

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