https://www.sciencenews.org/article/oldest-tattoo-tools-tennessee-native-american/amp?__twitter_impression=true

3.6ka turkey bone tattoo needles found in Tenessee. Was ochre a pigment? Graphite?

DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/oldest-tattoo-tools-tennessee-native-american/amp?__twitter_impression=true
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> 3.6ka turkey bone tattoo needles found in Tenessee. Was ochre a pigment? Graphite?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352409X21002145?via%3Dihub

Interesting that they can find pigment but not even speculate on a source?

I would think that there are many natural dyes -- plants -- they could have
used. I remember, as a young kid, a neighbor's mom used to do weaving
and I'm talking totally from scratch! She'd buy the wool, spin it, dye it then
weave it...

Anyhow, I recall searching for plants she needed to make her dye.

Lng stry short: There are plants, berries and even stems that make good
dyes, though not all of them are very efficient.

UNRELATED: Southern soldiers during the civil war in their "Butternut"
uniforms... which was a simple dye you could make by throwing iron
into a bucket of water.

(Just ask anyone trying to wash out rust stains!)

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On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 2:59:36 PM UTC-4, I Envy JTEM wrote:
> DD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves wrote:
> > https://www.sciencenews.org/article/oldest-tattoo-tools-tennessee-native-american/amp?__twitter_impression=true
> >
> > 3.6ka turkey bone tattoo needles found in Tenessee. Was ochre a pigment? Graphite?
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352409X21002145?via%3Dihub
>
> Interesting that they can find pigment but not even speculate on a source?
>
> I would think that there are many natural dyes -- plants -- they could have
> used. I remember, as a young kid, a neighbor's mom used to do weaving
> and I'm talking totally from scratch! She'd buy the wool, spin it, dye it then
> weave it...
>
> Anyhow, I recall searching for plants she needed to make her dye.
>
> Lng stry short: There are plants, berries and even stems that make good
> dyes, though not all of them are very efficient.
>
>
> UNRELATED: Southern soldiers during the civil war in their "Butternut"
> uniforms... which was a simple dye you could make by throwing iron
> into a bucket of water.
>
> (Just ask anyone trying to wash out rust stains!)
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/652812244575469568
Place in Nor Cal I worked at had spinning, weaving & natural dyeing of yarn, place smelled like rotting roots for a few weeks.
I don't know how to remove rust stains, I've got some naval jelly /phosphoric acid, might try that, works on some steel.