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* Einstein and his followers don't understand the true concept of timeKen Seto
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 by: Ken Seto - Mon, 19 Sep 2022 18:32 UTC

The only time exists is absolute time (AT). All the processes in the universe are running on absolute time (AT). The rate of passage of AT is constant in all frames. Motion and gravity has no effect on the rate of passage of AT. However, there is no clock time unit (including a clock second) that represents the same interval of AT in different frames. The LT is designed to calculate the clock time value on a moving clock for a specific interval of AT (or a specific clock time interval) on the observer's clock. For example:
1 second on the observer's clock = a specific interval of AT = (1/gamma)*seconds) on a moving clock.
This means that the clock moving wrt the observer is accumulating clock seconds at a slower rate.
However, there is another possibility:
1 second on the observer's clock = a specific interval of AT = gamma*seconds on a moving clock.
This equation means that the moving clock is accumulating clock seconds at a faster rate than the observer's clock or the moving clock is running faster than the observer's clock.

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 by: Dirk Van de moortel - Mon, 19 Sep 2022 18:43 UTC

Op 19-sep.-2022 om 20:32 schreef Ken Seto:
> The only time exists is absolute time (AT). All the processes in the universe are running on absolute time (AT). The rate of passage of AT is constant in all frames. Motion and gravity has no effect on the rate of passage of AT. However, there is no clock time unit (including a clock second) that represents the same interval of AT in different frames. The LT is designed to calculate the clock time value on a moving clock for a specific interval of AT (or a specific clock time interval) on the observer's clock. For example:
> 1 second on the observer's clock = a specific interval of AT = (1/gamma)*seconds) on a moving clock.
> This means that the clock moving wrt the observer is accumulating clock seconds at a slower rate.
> However, there is another possibility:
> 1 second on the observer's clock = a specific interval of AT = gamma*seconds on a moving clock.
> This equation means that the moving clock is accumulating clock seconds at a faster rate than the observer's clock or the moving clock is running faster than the observer's clock.

"Dumb all over, a little ugly on the side"
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 by: Volney - Mon, 19 Sep 2022 18:43 UTC

On 9/19/2022 2:32 PM, Ken Seto wrote:
> The only time exists is absolute time (AT).

Assertions are not facts.

> All the processes in the universe are running on absolute time (AT).

Assertions are not facts.

> The rate of passage of AT is constant in all frames.

Assertions are not facts.

> Motion and gravity has no effect on the rate of passage of AT. However, there is no clock time unit (including a clock second) that represents the same interval of AT in different frames.

Assertions are not facts.

> The LT is designed to calculate the clock time value on a moving clock for a specific interval of AT (or a specific clock time interval) on the observer's clock.

Assertions are not facts.

Science is based on observations and experimental evidence, not assertions.

Sorry, but that's why your Muddle Mechanics is a complete, absolute,
total failure.

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Tue, 20 Sep 2022 06:12 UTC

On Monday, 19 September 2022 at 20:43:38 UTC+2, Volney wrote:
> On 9/19/2022 2:32 PM, Ken Seto wrote:
> > The only time exists is absolute time (AT).
> Assertions are not facts.
> > All the processes in the universe are running on absolute time (AT).
> Assertions are not facts.
> > The rate of passage of AT is constant in all frames.
> Assertions are not facts.
> > Motion and gravity has no effect on the rate of passage of AT. However, there is no clock time unit (including a clock second) that represents the same interval of AT in different frames.
> Assertions are not facts.
> > The LT is designed to calculate the clock time value on a moving clock for a specific interval of AT (or a specific clock time interval) on the observer's clock.
> Assertions are not facts.
>
> Science is based on observations and experimental evidence, not assertions.

Sorry, stupid Mike, it's actually an assertion, not a fact.

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 by: Justus Basurto - Tue, 20 Sep 2022 09:23 UTC

Maciej Wozniak wrote:

> On Monday, 19 September 2022 at 20:43:38 UTC+2, Volney wrote:
>> Assertions are not facts. Science is based on observations and
>> experimental evidence, not assertions.
>
> Sorry, stupid Mike, it's actually an assertion, not a fact.

both wrong. Science is based on the one which pays more. It always been
like that. Take a look at "science" bill gaytes, the fraudci, the bidans
of "uKraine", the climate gearmony etc etc and etc. All science. They are
gays. They easily can kill a planet with their science. They did it
before. It's what they call it, in western capitalist world,
*masculine_toxicity*.

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 by: JanPB - Wed, 21 Sep 2022 04:00 UTC

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 11:32:49 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> The only time exists is absolute time (AT). All the processes in the universe are running on absolute time (AT). The rate of passage of AT is constant in all frames. Motion and gravity has no effect on the rate of passage of AT. However, there is no clock time unit (including a clock second) that represents the same interval of AT in different frames. The LT is designed to calculate the clock time value on a moving clock for a specific interval of AT (or a specific clock time interval) on the observer's clock. For example:
> 1 second on the observer's clock = a specific interval of AT = (1/gamma)*seconds) on a moving clock.
> This means that the clock moving wrt the observer is accumulating clock seconds at a slower rate.
> However, there is another possibility:
> 1 second on the observer's clock = a specific interval of AT = gamma*seconds on a moving clock.
> This equation means that the moving clock is accumulating clock seconds at a faster rate than the observer's clock or the moving clock is running faster than the observer's clock.

Gobbledygook. Scientomania.

--
Jan

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 by: Ken Seto - Wed, 21 Sep 2022 14:11 UTC

On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 12:00:07 AM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 11:32:49 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The only time exists is absolute time (AT). All the processes in the universe are running on absolute time (AT). The rate of passage of AT is constant in all frames. Motion and gravity has no effect on the rate of passage of AT. However, there is no clock time unit (including a clock second) that represents the same interval of AT in different frames. The LT is designed to calculate the clock time value on a moving clock for a specific interval of AT (or a specific clock time interval) on the observer's clock. For example:
> > 1 second on the observer's clock = a specific interval of AT = (1/gamma)*seconds) on a moving clock.
> > This means that the clock moving wrt the observer is accumulating clock seconds at a slower rate.
> > However, there is another possibility:
> > 1 second on the observer's clock = a specific interval of AT = gamma*seconds on a moving clock.
> > This equation means that the moving clock is accumulating clock seconds at a faster rate than the observer's > > > clock or the moving clock is running faster than the observer's clock.
> Gobbledygook. Scientomania.

This means that you don't understand the concept of absolute time (AT) and how AT is related to clock time.
This is a serious defect on your part. Get it fixed.
Also this means that your assumptions are wrong:
1. You assumed that the observed clock is doing the moving.
2. You assumed that the observer is not moving wrt the observed clock.

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Subject: Re: Einstein and his followers don't understand the true concept of time
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 by: JanPB - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 08:26 UTC

On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 7:11:43 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 12:00:07 AM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
> > On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 11:32:49 AM UTC-7, seto...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > The only time exists is absolute time (AT). All the processes in the universe are running on absolute time (AT). The rate of passage of AT is constant in all frames. Motion and gravity has no effect on the rate of passage of AT. However, there is no clock time unit (including a clock second) that represents the same interval of AT in different frames. The LT is designed to calculate the clock time value on a moving clock for a specific interval of AT (or a specific clock time interval) on the observer's clock. For example:
> > > 1 second on the observer's clock = a specific interval of AT = (1/gamma)*seconds) on a moving clock.
> > > This means that the clock moving wrt the observer is accumulating clock seconds at a slower rate.
> > > However, there is another possibility:
> > > 1 second on the observer's clock = a specific interval of AT = gamma*seconds on a moving clock.
> > > This equation means that the moving clock is accumulating clock seconds at a faster rate than the observer's > > > clock or the moving clock is running faster than the observer's clock.
> > Gobbledygook. Scientomania.
> This means that you don't understand the concept of absolute time (AT) and how AT is related to clock time.
> This is a serious defect on your part. Get it fixed.
> Also this means that your assumptions are wrong:
> 1. You assumed that the observed clock is doing the moving.
> 2. You assumed that the observer is not moving wrt the observed clock.

Gobbledygook. You are a monomaniac obsessed with stuff you don't understand..

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Jan

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 by: Jeiker Carboni - Thu, 22 Sep 2022 12:11 UTC

JanPB wrote:

>> 1. You assumed that the observed clock is doing the moving.
>> 2. You assumed that the observer is not moving wrt the observed clock.
>
> Gobbledygook. You are a monomaniac obsessed with stuff you don't
> understand.

that territory, polakia, stolen territory, has to go back to Russia, you
can't expect those fucking nazis own a territory big as a country. Back to
Russia, you stinking unclean teeth nazists. Or Belarus, that's also a good
country to own that nazis territory. IN gearmony they put you in prison
for denying holocaust, then you polakers are arming the nazis, and expect
to avoid the execution squad on stadium and public places??

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