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* Re: chimps smash/eat/share tortoisePrimum Sapienti
`- Re: chimps smash/eat/share tortoiseDD'eDeN aka note/nickname/alas_my_loves

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 by: Primum Sapienti - Mon, 7 Jun 2021 05:04 UTC

littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/chimpanzees-eat-tortoises-smash-shells
>

Yes, confirmation of meat eating and hunting. No water anywhere.

I posed this two years ago, almost to the day

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.anthropology.paleo/c/v3wESvYv2Sc/m/5N0ZxcJNBwAJ

https://www.mpg.de/13497324/tortoises-on-the-menu

"We have known for decades that chimpanzees feed on meat from a variety of
animal species, but until now the consumption of reptiles has not been
observed", says Tobias Deschner, a primatologist at the Max Planck
Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology. "What is particularly interesting
is that they use a percussive technique that they normally employ to open
hard-shelled fruits to gain access to meat of an animal that is almost
inaccessible for any other predator".

The researchers studied the behaviour of chimpanzees of the newly
habituated Rekambo community. They observed 38 prey events by ten
different chimpanzees in the dry season, a period when other preferred
food such as fruits is abundant. "Sometimes, younger animals or females
were unable to crack open the tortoise on their own. They then regularly
handed the tortoise over to a stronger male who cracked the tortoise’s
shell open and shared the meat with all other individuals present", says
Simone Pika, first author of the study and a cognitive scientist at the
University of Osnabrück.

See also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeE4uDQxB2I
"Chimpanzee cracks coconut"

https://www.alamy.com/nigeria-cameroon-chimpanzee-eating-a-coconut-in-the-buanchor-jungle-afi-mountain-southern-nigeria-image244238428.html

https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/photo/chimpanzee-pan-troglodytes-smashing-coconut-on-royalty-free-image/90069440

https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/photo/common-chimpanzee-kibale-forest-national-park-royalty-free-image/625850084

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 by: DD'eDeN aka not - Mon, 7 Jun 2021 08:25 UTC

On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 1:04:14 AM UTC-4, Primum Sapienti wrote:
> littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/chimpanzees-eat-tortoises-smash-shells
> >
>
> Yes, confirmation of meat eating and hunting. No water anywhere.
>
> I posed this two years ago, almost to the day
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/sci.anthropology.paleo/c/v3wESvYv2Sc/m/5N0ZxcJNBwAJ
>
>
>
> https://www.mpg.de/13497324/tortoises-on-the-menu
>
> "We have known for decades that chimpanzees feed on meat from a variety of
> animal species, but until now the consumption of reptiles has not been
> observed", says Tobias Deschner, a primatologist at the Max Planck
> Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology. "What is particularly interesting
> is that they use a percussive technique that they normally employ to open
> hard-shelled fruits to gain access to meat of an animal that is almost
> inaccessible for any other predator".
>
> The researchers studied the behaviour of chimpanzees of the newly
> habituated Rekambo community. They observed 38 prey events by ten
> different chimpanzees in the dry season, a period when other preferred
> food such as fruits is abundant. "Sometimes, younger animals or females
> were unable to crack open the tortoise on their own. They then regularly
> handed the tortoise over to a stronger male who cracked the tortoise’s
> shell open and shared the meat with all other individuals present", says
> Simone Pika, first author of the study and a cognitive scientist at the
> University of Osnabrück.
>
>
> See also
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeE4uDQxB2I
> "Chimpanzee cracks coconut"
>
> https://www.alamy.com/nigeria-cameroon-chimpanzee-eating-a-coconut-in-the-buanchor-jungle-afi-mountain-southern-nigeria-image244238428.html
>
>
> https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/photo/chimpanzee-pan-troglodytes-smashing-coconut-on-royalty-free-image/90069440
>
>
> https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/photo/common-chimpanzee-kibale-forest-national-park-royalty-free-image/625850084

Be aware that bananas and coconuts were not native to Africa (nor to the eastern Polynesian islands), they were brought there by AMHs < 10ka.

Stone tool cracking coconut at rocky beach
https://youtu.be/T9bXoOa1qTg

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