https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl37j9VhGW0

Aliens coming back to earth?
😨😲

On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 2:01:32 AM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl37j9VhGW0
>
> Aliens coming back to earth?
> 😨😲

Obviously, space debris returning to the Earth's atmosphere:

https://abc7news.com/fireball-over-california-meteor-shower-bright-lights-tonight/12971613/

https://aerospace.org/reentries/iss-deb-ics-ef-id-45265

On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 2:48:14 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
> On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 2:01:32 AM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl37j9VhGW0
> >
> > Aliens coming back to earth?
> > 😨😲
> Obviously, space debris returning to the Earth's atmosphere:
>
> https://abc7news.com/fireball-over-california-meteor-shower-bright-lights-tonight/12971613/
>
> https://aerospace.org/reentries/iss-deb-ics-ef-id-45265

Breaks into small pieces, lands in Yosemite area?
Great, getting hit by one small piece flying with the speed of sound?
Hope no one gets hurt, including animals?
🤔😱

On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 09:26:54 -0700 (PDT), StarDust <csoka01@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 2:48:14?AM UTC-7, W wrote:
>> On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 2:01:32?AM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl37j9VhGW0
>> >
>> > Aliens coming back to earth?
>> > ??
>> Obviously, space debris returning to the Earth's atmosphere:
>>
>> https://abc7news.com/fireball-over-california-meteor-shower-bright-lights-tonight/12971613/
>>
>> https://aerospace.org/reentries/iss-deb-ics-ef-id-45265
>
>Breaks into small pieces, lands in Yosemite area?
>Great, getting hit by one small piece flying with the speed of sound?
>Hope no one gets hurt, including animals?
>??
Anything that falls to the ground will be traveling at no more than
terminal velocity, 20 or 30 meters/sec. Not that you'd want to get hit
if it had much mass, but way better than something going near the
speed of sound! But most likely nothing made it to the ground.

On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:01:32 PM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl37j9VhGW0
>
> Aliens coming back to earth?
> 😨😲

Here's the answer!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB9hgcoHLEc

Terry McSweeney speaks with Chabot Space Center’s astronomer Gerald McKeegan on this.

On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 8:24:32 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> On Saturday, 18 March 2023 at 05:48:14 UTC-4, W wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 2:01:32 AM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl37j9VhGW0
> > >
> > > Aliens coming back to earth?
> > > 😨😲
> > Obviously, space debris returning to the Earth's atmosphere:
> >
> > https://abc7news.com/fireball-over-california-meteor-shower-bright-lights-tonight/12971613/
> >
> > https://aerospace.org/reentries/iss-deb-ics-ef-id-45265
> Hopefully Starlink satellites.

Those links that I posted yesterday identify the debris as having come from the ISS.

On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 6:24:32 AM UTC-6, RichA wrote:

> Hopefully Starlink satellites.

Starlink is now making itself useful in the struggle against
Putin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, so we will just have
to put up with it for now.

John Savard

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 06:27:26 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 6:24:32?AM UTC-6, RichA wrote:
>
>> Hopefully Starlink satellites.
>
>Starlink is now making itself useful in the struggle against
>Putin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, so we will just have
>to put up with it for now.

Communications delivered from low Earth orbit is the future. It is
here to stay, and poses very little problem for astronomy.

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:59:05 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 06:27:26 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> >On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 6:24:32?AM UTC-6, RichA wrote:
> >
> >> Hopefully Starlink satellites.
> >
> >Starlink is now making itself useful in the struggle against
> >Putin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, so we will just have
> >to put up with it for now.
> Communications delivered from low Earth orbit is the future. It is
> here to stay, and poses very little problem for astronomy.

How about we let the astronomers' opinion hold sway? Your opinions are not worth anything.

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 08:31:38 -0700 (PDT), W <wsnell01@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:59:05?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 06:27:26 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>> >On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 6:24:32?AM UTC-6, RichA wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hopefully Starlink satellites.
>> >
>> >Starlink is now making itself useful in the struggle against
>> >Putin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, so we will just have
>> >to put up with it for now.
>> Communications delivered from low Earth orbit is the future. It is
>> here to stay, and poses very little problem for astronomy.
>
>How about we let the astronomers' opinion hold sway? Your opinions are not worth anything.

I am an astronomer. These satellites have not presented much of a
problem, and there's no reason to think they will. And if they do...
well, so what? The reality is that they create far more value than
astronomy does, if we're honest about it.

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:34:41 PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 08:31:38 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:59:05?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 06:27:26 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
> >> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> >> >On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 6:24:32?AM UTC-6, RichA wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hopefully Starlink satellites.
> >> >
> >> >Starlink is now making itself useful in the struggle against
> >> >Putin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, so we will just have
> >> >to put up with it for now.
> >> Communications delivered from low Earth orbit is the future. It is
> >> here to stay, and poses very little problem for astronomy.
> >
> >How about we let the astronomers' opinion hold sway? Your opinions are not worth anything.
> I am an astronomer. These satellites have not presented much of a
> problem, and there's no reason to think they will. And if they do...
> well, so what? The reality is that they create far more value than
> astronomy does, if we're honest about it.

The astronomers who have valid concerns about how their instruments and their work is affected by this new source of light pollution. Not you.

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 4:34:41 PM UTC, Chris L Peterson wrote:

> I am an astronomer. These satellites have not presented much of a
> problem, and there's no reason to think they will. And if they do...
> well, so what? The reality is that they create far more value than
> astronomy does, if we're honest about it.

Announcing yourself as an astronomer doesn't mean that much these days, as it is a combination of magnification enthusiasts and experimental theorists running amok with society.

Projecting the rotating Earth into the Universe as a rotating celestial sphere is a subculture rather than behaving like adults and recognising that the stars, including our own star and solar system, actually move in a circle. You might have heard of this motion and structure as it is called a galaxy-

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Andromeda_Galaxy_560mm_FL.jpg/800px-Andromeda_Galaxy_560mm_FL.jpg

To be fair to you, you come to an unmonetised/unmoderated forum sp are not entirely insulated from genuine astronomy.

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 17:07:15 -0700 (PDT), W <wsnell01@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:34:41?PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 08:31:38 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:59:05?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 06:27:26 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>> >> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>> >> >On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 6:24:32?AM UTC-6, RichA wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hopefully Starlink satellites.
>> >> >
>> >> >Starlink is now making itself useful in the struggle against
>> >> >Putin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, so we will just have
>> >> >to put up with it for now.
>> >> Communications delivered from low Earth orbit is the future. It is
>> >> here to stay, and poses very little problem for astronomy.
>> >
>> >How about we let the astronomers' opinion hold sway? Your opinions are not worth anything.
>> I am an astronomer. These satellites have not presented much of a
>> problem, and there's no reason to think they will. And if they do...
>> well, so what? The reality is that they create far more value than
>> astronomy does, if we're honest about it.
>
>The astronomers who have valid concerns about how their instruments and their work is affected by this new source of light pollution. Not you.

A very small number of astronomical research projects will be impacted
(wide field surveys). So those few astronomers don't like the
satellites. I get that. It doesn't mean they pose a threat to the
overwhelming body of astronomical research projects.

Their concerns are valid. But the impact on their work is more than
offset by the much, much broader social good of these communications
networks.

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 10:00:46 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 17:07:15 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:34:41?PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 08:31:38 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:59:05?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 06:27:26 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
> >> >> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> >> >> >On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 6:24:32?AM UTC-6, RichA wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hopefully Starlink satellites.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Starlink is now making itself useful in the struggle against
> >> >> >Putin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, so we will just have
> >> >> >to put up with it for now.
> >> >> Communications delivered from low Earth orbit is the future. It is
> >> >> here to stay, and poses very little problem for astronomy.
> >> >
> >> >How about we let the astronomers' opinion hold sway? Your opinions are not worth anything.
> >> I am an astronomer. These satellites have not presented much of a
> >> problem, and there's no reason to think they will. And if they do...
> >> well, so what? The reality is that they create far more value than
> >> astronomy does, if we're honest about it.
> >
> >The astronomers who have valid concerns about how their instruments and their work is affected by this new source of light pollution. Not you.
> A very small number of astronomical research projects will be impacted
> (wide field surveys). So those few astronomers don't like the
> satellites. I get that. It doesn't mean they pose a threat to the
> overwhelming body of astronomical research projects.
>
> Their concerns are valid. But the impact on their work is more than
> offset by the much, much broader social good of these communications
> networks.

There will not be "social good" coming from those networks.

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 09:39:04 -0700 (PDT), W <wsnell01@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 10:00:46?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 17:07:15 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:34:41?PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 08:31:38 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:59:05?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> >> >> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 06:27:26 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>> >> >> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>> >> >> >On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 6:24:32?AM UTC-6, RichA wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Hopefully Starlink satellites.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Starlink is now making itself useful in the struggle against
>> >> >> >Putin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, so we will just have
>> >> >> >to put up with it for now.
>> >> >> Communications delivered from low Earth orbit is the future. It is
>> >> >> here to stay, and poses very little problem for astronomy.
>> >> >
>> >> >How about we let the astronomers' opinion hold sway? Your opinions are not worth anything.
>> >> I am an astronomer. These satellites have not presented much of a
>> >> problem, and there's no reason to think they will. And if they do...
>> >> well, so what? The reality is that they create far more value than
>> >> astronomy does, if we're honest about it.
>> >
>> >The astronomers who have valid concerns about how their instruments and their work is affected by this new source of light pollution. Not you.
>> A very small number of astronomical research projects will be impacted
>> (wide field surveys). So those few astronomers don't like the
>> satellites. I get that. It doesn't mean they pose a threat to the
>> overwhelming body of astronomical research projects.
>>
>> Their concerns are valid. But the impact on their work is more than
>> offset by the much, much broader social good of these communications
>> networks.
>
>There will not be "social good" coming from those networks.

There already is. And it will only get better as communications
networks get broader and more diversified. This opens up network
access to billions of people who have no other practical way of
getting it.

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 1:07:05 PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 09:39:04 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 10:00:46?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 17:07:15 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:34:41?PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 08:31:38 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 9:59:05?AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> >> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 06:27:26 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
> >> >> >> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> >> >> >> >On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 6:24:32?AM UTC-6, RichA wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Hopefully Starlink satellites.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Starlink is now making itself useful in the struggle against
> >> >> >> >Putin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, so we will just have
> >> >> >> >to put up with it for now.
> >> >> >> Communications delivered from low Earth orbit is the future. It is
> >> >> >> here to stay, and poses very little problem for astronomy.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >How about we let the astronomers' opinion hold sway? Your opinions are not worth anything.
> >> >> I am an astronomer. These satellites have not presented much of a
> >> >> problem, and there's no reason to think they will. And if they do....
> >> >> well, so what? The reality is that they create far more value than
> >> >> astronomy does, if we're honest about it.
> >> >
> >> >The astronomers who have valid concerns about how their instruments and their work is affected by this new source of light pollution. Not you.
> >> A very small number of astronomical research projects will be impacted
> >> (wide field surveys). So those few astronomers don't like the
> >> satellites. I get that. It doesn't mean they pose a threat to the
> >> overwhelming body of astronomical research projects.
> >>
> >> Their concerns are valid. But the impact on their work is more than
> >> offset by the much, much broader social good of these communications
> >> networks.
> >
> >There will not be "social good" coming from those networks.
> There already is. And it will only get better as communications
> networks get broader and more diversified. This opens up network
> access to billions of people who have no other practical way of
> getting it.

People such as those from NYC and UCLA?
Because they don't seem to be having much luck learning geography, up to now.