sort of?

On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 2:11:57 AM UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> sort of?
It's a matter of perspective and imagination.

On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 1:47:13 AM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> On Sunday, 26 March 2023 at 02:11:57 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > sort of?
>
> More hype from the media, especially considering Mars, Jupiter, etc , are really far from us at the moment in their orbits.

Saturn goes down way before the Sun, not a naked eye object?
😱

On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 8:03:11 AM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
> On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 1:47:13 AM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > On Sunday, 26 March 2023 at 02:11:57 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > > sort of?
> >
> > More hype from the media, especially considering Mars, Jupiter, etc , are really far from us at the moment in their orbits.
> Saturn goes down way before the Sun, not a naked eye object?
> 😱

Saturn is currently visible low in the eastern pre-dawn sky, depending on where you live, if you have an unobstructed horizon. It will gradually become easier to see next month.

On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 8:51:39 PM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
> On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 8:03:11 AM UTC-7, StarDust wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 1:47:13 AM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > > On Sunday, 26 March 2023 at 02:11:57 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > > > sort of?
> > >
> > > More hype from the media, especially considering Mars, Jupiter, etc , are really far from us at the moment in their orbits.
> > Saturn goes down way before the Sun, not a naked eye object?
> > 😱
> Saturn is currently visible low in the eastern pre-dawn sky, depending on where you live, if you have an unobstructed horizon. It will gradually become easier to see next month.

You are a long way from objecting to the notion that everything to the left of the Sun is a twilight appearance and to the right of the Sun is a morning appearance. For example, Mercury is transitioning to a twilight appearance as it moves on the opposite side of the solar system and behind the central Sun-

https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

By scrolling the dates forward, you will see that Jupiter is currently moving towards a dawn appearance and to the right of the Sun and will come within range of the C3 camera, moving from left to right as it moves slower than the Earth.

https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

I don't hold you to the unfamiliarity with this type of solar system research as you showed years ago as I need observers to demonstrate to students and wider society what we can see now with a tracking satellite that is every bit as productive as Hubble or Webb.

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 12:44:53 AM UTC-6, Gerald Kelleher wrote:

> You are a long way from objecting to the notion that everything to the
> left of the Sun is a twilight appearance and to the right of the Sun is a morning appearance.

Things in the ecliptic plane, relatively close to the Sun in the apparent sky, would indeed be
vespertine on the left and matutine on the right, using the terminology of ancient
astrologers. That much is true enough.

Off the plane of the ecliptic, of course, the fact that the celestial equator is a band in the
sky at an angle depending on one's latitude could make things mostly above and below
the Sun behave differently. Thus, even if also slightly to the right or left of the Sun, in
the Northern hemisphere, things above the Sun would be visible both before sunrise and
after sunset.

And things visible in the middle of the night, halfway around the ecliptic from the Sun,
might be on the right or the left without being particularly associated with dawn or
sunset.

So are these the sorts of objections you feel he to whom you replied lacked the wit
to make, or are there even more subtle objections that a true astronomer needs to know?

John Savard

On Sunday, November 30, 2014 at 12:37:16 AM UTC, palsing wrote:
> On Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:39:31 PM UTC-8, oriel36 wrote:
>
> > http://www.popastro.com/images/planetary/observations/Venus-July%202010-January%202012.jpg
>
> > People must be truly desperate despite the fact that contemporary imaging makes proof of orbital motion such a spectacular sight to behold.
>
> Gerald, if you really think this is an image, you are dumber than a box of hammers. Just where was this photographer standing in order to get such a shot of Venus BELOW the Sun in his field of view?

The next time someone else speaks for you Paul, let them know that the issue was resolved quietly.

On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 12:11:57 AM UTC-6, StarDust wrote:
> sort of?

Well, we all know the famous song about "When Jupiter aligns with Mars"...

but another popular song speaks of "planets aligned, so rare"... if that
doesn't ring a bell, here you are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl5bqHP0-KA

John Savard