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* OT: Americans paying over $3 for a regular loaf of bread?John Doe
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 by: Edward Hernandez - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 12:56 UTC

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 58.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
least 1667 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and
805 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

The John Dope troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Dope troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Dope troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sat, 11 Jun 2022 12:51:21 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t82348$num$3@dont-email.me>.

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 by: John Doe - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 13:07 UTC

People who ignore the truth and promote propaganda are hoping this
Ukrainian Nazi stuff goes away, so they can promote the propaganda
"it never existed"...

https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/russia-pushes-ukrainian-forces-to-outski-idUSKBN2NO20A

The picture of a Ukrainian with a Nazi swastika on its arm is still there
as of right now. Imagine how much Ukrainian Nazi stuff they are
successfully hiding from you.

Click on the right angle/arrow a few times and you will see a guy bending
over on the side of the van. He has a swastika tattoo...

A direct link to the picture...

https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20220608&t=2&i=1601377080&w=780&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=LYNXMPEI5713I

If propagandists ignore it long enough, maybe Reuters will take it down.

See no evil!

Looks like Reuters took this location down already. In Firefox, there is a
placeholder for the picture slideshow (as below). In Edge, there is no
placeholder for it...

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/battle-ukraines-east-rages-zelenskiy-vows-retake-territory-2022-06-07/

Ukraine is NOT a one-nation state. Ukraine has always been a deeply
divided country: Western Ukraine is traditionally nazistic (they were on
Hitler's side during WW2, and they continue to be nazis) they speak their
own dialect of Ukrainian language and hate everyone else; Transcarpathia
(Ruthenia) is anti-West Ukrainian and moderately pro-Russian but most of
all Ruthenians (they speak their language as well as Russian and
Ukrainian) want to be reunited with Hungary; Central Ukraine is the true
Ukraine. Central Ukraine is moderately anti-West Ukrainian, moderately
pro-Russian, they speak Ukrainian and Russian (in towns). Southern and
Eastern Ukrainians are very anti-West, very pro-Russian, they speak
predominantly Russian language. Cremeans always considered themselves
Russian; hate West Ukrainians.

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On 6/10/2022 1:01 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:11:14 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>
>> On 6/9/2022 10:37 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 18:59:50 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/9/2022 6:56 PM, bitrex wrote:
>>>>> On 6/9/2022 5:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:30:33 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
>>>>>> <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
>>>>>>>> The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is now
>>>>>>>> $3.35 at
>>>>>>>> Walmart.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hopefully that's not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
>>>>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because the basic ingredient (wheat) to make bread can not be shipped
>>>>>>> out of Ukraine.   Time for NATO to open up the shipping lane.  We are
>>>>>>> already in food world war.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A loaf of bread is a lot of food for $3.35
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We pay $12 for good sourdough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The real hikes have been in stuff like red meat. I don't eat much red
>>>>> meat but when I do I'm determined to have quality, not ground beef fast
>>>>> food shit.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's still some good deals to be had on quality around here though
>>>>> but one has to hunt - even just move packages around in the cooler. I
>>>>> got 3/4 pound chuck eye steak for $3.79 the other day.
>>>>>
>>>>> People get scared off by the word "chuck" in it maybe but the chuck eye
>>>>> is more like a less-presentable ribeye than beef chuck. And it's usually
>>>>> just as delicious as a ribeye.
>>>>
>>>> Incidentally, Walmart almost never has good deals on steak around here,
>>>> usually seriously disappointing & overpriced. the local grocery chains
>>>> tend to beat them hands-down.
>>>
>>> There's no reason to eat cheap beef. The good stuff is $27 a pound,
>>> and worth it.
>>>
>>> We can get pretty good burger meat for $8.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hmpf. I don't own a condo and a paid-off car at this point in my life by
>> paying $27/lb for steaks, man.
>
> OK, stay away from restaurants.

I don't often go to steakhouses. Around here you'd pay $27 at a
restaurant for the same steak from a supermarket you can make at home. A
steak worth going out for means going to Mooo or Ruth Chris or
something, here's Mooo's menu:

<https://mooorestaurant.com/menus>

A 24 oz porterhouse is going to be $98.

> A really good 1/3 lb filet once a month is worth it. I soak mine in
> Soy Vey teriyaki and bbq scorched+rare on my tiny gas grill.

I tend to have a steak at breakfast more often than dinner, and rarely
marinate 'em for that. Just leave it out for about 15 min before
cooking, grind some salt & pepper on both sides, then sear in extra
light olive over high heat on the stovetop (I use a ceramic-surface
skillet) with garlic & butter. EZ

> The Brat makes fun of my tiny grill, but she sure eats the results.
>
> Cheap supermarket beef mostly tastes like cardboard. You can generally
> get pretty good chicken and sometimes fish and shrimp.

As I say, you can hunt around at a supermarket cooler for cuts of meat
that have the combination of low price & good taste, you use your eyes
and look at the meat and that's often a good guide to how it'll taste!

A dedicated butcher shop is best but unfortunately in suburbia there
aren't many of those around, anymore. A few supermarkets still do their
own cutting, but it's rare.

In any case when at a supermarket instead of a butcher shop I tend to
walk away more often than not from the steaks as I don't see anything
that looks good for the price.

> Really good salmon and black cod and such can be expensive too, and
> worth it.

Now, in New England fish and seafood is the thing there's no good reason
to go to a supermarket for..

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 14:26 UTC

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 2:39:52 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
> The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is now $3.35 at
> Walmart.
>
> Hopefully that's not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very quickly.

The entire food chain is collapsing and the nitwit notices the price of his morning donut has gone up...

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/food-price-outlook/summary-findings/

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 14:36 UTC

On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 9:47:59 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
> On 6/10/2022 1:01 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> > On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:11:14 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 6/9/2022 10:37 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 18:59:50 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 6/9/2022 6:56 PM, bitrex wrote:
> >>>>> On 6/9/2022 5:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:30:33 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
> >>>>>> <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
> >>>>>>>> The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is now
> >>>>>>>> $3.35 at
> >>>>>>>> Walmart.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hopefully that's not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
> >>>>>>>> quickly.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Because the basic ingredient (wheat) to make bread can not be shipped
> >>>>>>> out of Ukraine. Time for NATO to open up the shipping lane. We are
> >>>>>>> already in food world war.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A loaf of bread is a lot of food for $3.35
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We pay $12 for good sourdough.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The real hikes have been in stuff like red meat. I don't eat much red
> >>>>> meat but when I do I'm determined to have quality, not ground beef fast
> >>>>> food shit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There's still some good deals to be had on quality around here though
> >>>>> but one has to hunt - even just move packages around in the cooler. I
> >>>>> got 3/4 pound chuck eye steak for $3.79 the other day.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> People get scared off by the word "chuck" in it maybe but the chuck eye
> >>>>> is more like a less-presentable ribeye than beef chuck. And it's usually
> >>>>> just as delicious as a ribeye.
> >>>>
> >>>> Incidentally, Walmart almost never has good deals on steak around here,
> >>>> usually seriously disappointing & overpriced. the local grocery chains
> >>>> tend to beat them hands-down.
> >>>
> >>> There's no reason to eat cheap beef. The good stuff is $27 a pound,
> >>> and worth it.
> >>>
> >>> We can get pretty good burger meat for $8.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hmpf. I don't own a condo and a paid-off car at this point in my life by
> >> paying $27/lb for steaks, man.
> >
> > OK, stay away from restaurants.
>
> I don't often go to steakhouses. Around here you'd pay $27 at a
> restaurant for the same steak from a supermarket you can make at home. A
> steak worth going out for means going to Mooo or Ruth Chris or
> something, here's Mooo's menu:
>
> <https://mooorestaurant.com/menus>
>
> A 24 oz porterhouse is going to be $98.
>
> > A really good 1/3 lb filet once a month is worth it. I soak mine in
> > Soy Vey teriyaki and bbq scorched+rare on my tiny gas grill.
>
> I tend to have a steak at breakfast more often than dinner, and rarely
> marinate 'em for that. Just leave it out for about 15 min before
> cooking, grind some salt & pepper on both sides, then sear in extra
> light olive over high heat on the stovetop (I use a ceramic-surface
> skillet) with garlic & butter. EZ
>
> > The Brat makes fun of my tiny grill, but she sure eats the results.
> >
> > Cheap supermarket beef mostly tastes like cardboard. You can generally
> > get pretty good chicken and sometimes fish and shrimp.
>
> As I say, you can hunt around at a supermarket cooler for cuts of meat
> that have the combination of low price & good taste, you use your eyes
> and look at the meat and that's often a good guide to how it'll taste!
>
> A dedicated butcher shop is best but unfortunately in suburbia there
> aren't many of those around, anymore. A few supermarkets still do their
> own cutting, but it's rare.
>
> In any case when at a supermarket instead of a butcher shop I tend to
> walk away more often than not from the steaks as I don't see anything
> that looks good for the price.
>
> > Really good salmon and black cod and such can be expensive too, and
> > worth it.
>
> Now, in New England fish and seafood is the thing there's no good reason
> to go to a supermarket for..

Guess you didn't get the memo, but the world's oceans are a toilet. Anyone who eats shellfish or bottom feeder fish, like catfish, is behind the times. No telling the equivalent of how many tampons or pampers you've ingested by now.
I hear there are feasts to be had in the dumpsters behind the better restaurants. Check it out.

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On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 11:30:41 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
> On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 8:24:10 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> > On 6/10/22 07:09, Ricky wrote:
> > > On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 2:39:52 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
> > >> The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is
> > >> now $3.35 at Walmart.
> > >>
> > >> Hopefully that's not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
> > >> quickly.
> > >
> > > You fail to appreciate that the $3 loaf of bread only has about $0.10
> > > worth of wheat in it. The rest is petro-chemicals, and everything
> > > petro has gone up.
> > >
> > > They would be doing you a favor to price it out of reach. Then
> > > perhaps you can buy bread that actually has food in it in more than a
> > > token amount.
> > Killer Dave's Bread is close to the same price as Dope's Walmart bread,
> > when bought in twin packs at Costco. Organic.
> >
> > Dope's "regular" loaves will be Glyphosate treated.
> We are arguing whether we need to spend $3 to buy bread. Meanwhile, hundred of millions people are wondering if they can buy $0.10 wheat at all. Taking out 20 million tons of wheat this year (rioting) and next year (not planting) will starve hundred of millions. NATO should be in western part of Black Sea now.

In the Philippines the urban poor have been eating pagpag for a long time now. It is processed and sold by street food vendors. Obama tried to reduce employment there by pressuring corporations to move call centers back to the U.S. Then the hypocrite pretended he was so humanitarian by giving military aid to Ukraine. Wasn't that convenient for his Wall Street buddies. Places like Philippines have absolutely no safety nets for their people when they lose income.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rYyhzBgK2U

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Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

> John Doe wrote:

>> The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is now
>> $3.35 at Walmart.
>>
>> Hopefully that's not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
>> quickly.
>
> The entire food chain is collapsing and the nitwit notices the price of
> his morning donut has gone up...

Because one notices the price of bread radically increasing, therefore one
is blind to the "entire food chain collapsing"?

IOW... Segue into your opinion with an illogical insult.

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 by: jlar...@highlandsniptechnology.com - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 15:08 UTC

On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 09:47:51 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

>On 6/10/2022 1:01 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:11:14 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/9/2022 10:37 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 18:59:50 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/9/2022 6:56 PM, bitrex wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 5:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:30:33 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
>>>>>>> <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is now
>>>>>>>>> $3.35 at
>>>>>>>>> Walmart.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hopefully that's not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
>>>>>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because the basic ingredient (wheat) to make bread can not be shipped
>>>>>>>> out of Ukraine.   Time for NATO to open up the shipping lane.  We are
>>>>>>>> already in food world war.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A loaf of bread is a lot of food for $3.35
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We pay $12 for good sourdough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The real hikes have been in stuff like red meat. I don't eat much red
>>>>>> meat but when I do I'm determined to have quality, not ground beef fast
>>>>>> food shit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's still some good deals to be had on quality around here though
>>>>>> but one has to hunt - even just move packages around in the cooler. I
>>>>>> got 3/4 pound chuck eye steak for $3.79 the other day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People get scared off by the word "chuck" in it maybe but the chuck eye
>>>>>> is more like a less-presentable ribeye than beef chuck. And it's usually
>>>>>> just as delicious as a ribeye.
>>>>>
>>>>> Incidentally, Walmart almost never has good deals on steak around here,
>>>>> usually seriously disappointing & overpriced. the local grocery chains
>>>>> tend to beat them hands-down.
>>>>
>>>> There's no reason to eat cheap beef. The good stuff is $27 a pound,
>>>> and worth it.
>>>>
>>>> We can get pretty good burger meat for $8.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmpf. I don't own a condo and a paid-off car at this point in my life by
>>> paying $27/lb for steaks, man.
>>
>> OK, stay away from restaurants.
>
>I don't often go to steakhouses. Around here you'd pay $27 at a
>restaurant for the same steak from a supermarket you can make at home. A
>steak worth going out for means going to Mooo or Ruth Chris or
>something, here's Mooo's menu:
>
><https://mooorestaurant.com/menus>
>
>A 24 oz porterhouse is going to be $98.
>
>> A really good 1/3 lb filet once a month is worth it. I soak mine in
>> Soy Vey teriyaki and bbq scorched+rare on my tiny gas grill.
>
>I tend to have a steak at breakfast more often than dinner, and rarely
>marinate 'em for that. Just leave it out for about 15 min before
>cooking, grind some salt & pepper on both sides, then sear in extra
>light olive over high heat on the stovetop (I use a ceramic-surface
>skillet) with garlic & butter. EZ
>
>> The Brat makes fun of my tiny grill, but she sure eats the results.
>>
>> Cheap supermarket beef mostly tastes like cardboard. You can generally
>> get pretty good chicken and sometimes fish and shrimp.
>
>As I say, you can hunt around at a supermarket cooler for cuts of meat
>that have the combination of low price & good taste, you use your eyes
>and look at the meat and that's often a good guide to how it'll taste!
>
>A dedicated butcher shop is best but unfortunately in suburbia there
>aren't many of those around, anymore. A few supermarkets still do their
>own cutting, but it's rare.
>
>In any case when at a supermarket instead of a butcher shop I tend to
>walk away more often than not from the steaks as I don't see anything
>that looks good for the price.
>
>> Really good salmon and black cod and such can be expensive too, and
>> worth it.
>
>Now, in New England fish and seafood is the thing there's no good reason
>to go to a supermarket for..
>

We have a lot of boutique, expensive markets around here. Canyon
Market, Gus's, Good Life. Molly Stones has great steaks and they will
slice a chunk of prime fillet to your size. We shop the little stores
for a few expensive things and go to Safeway for the bulk stuff.

The farmers' markets have really good farm-fresh cheap produce. Ours
has a lot of really scary-looking asian veggies.

Really good steak or fish or crab is worth it occasionally.

When I was a kid in New Orleans, we ate a lot of shrimp and oysters
because they were cheaper than beef. Mo grew up on the coast south of
Boston, so they ate clams and lobster because they were cheap.

--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

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On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 07:36:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 9:47:59 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
>> On 6/10/2022 1:01 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> > On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:11:14 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 6/9/2022 10:37 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> >>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 18:59:50 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 6/9/2022 6:56 PM, bitrex wrote:
>> >>>>> On 6/9/2022 5:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>> >>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:30:33 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
>> >>>>>> <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is now
>> >>>>>>>> $3.35 at
>> >>>>>>>> Walmart.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Hopefully that's not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
>> >>>>>>>> quickly.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Because the basic ingredient (wheat) to make bread can not be shipped
>> >>>>>>> out of Ukraine. Time for NATO to open up the shipping lane. We are
>> >>>>>>> already in food world war.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> A loaf of bread is a lot of food for $3.35
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> We pay $12 for good sourdough.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The real hikes have been in stuff like red meat. I don't eat much red
>> >>>>> meat but when I do I'm determined to have quality, not ground beef fast
>> >>>>> food shit.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> There's still some good deals to be had on quality around here though
>> >>>>> but one has to hunt - even just move packages around in the cooler. I
>> >>>>> got 3/4 pound chuck eye steak for $3.79 the other day.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> People get scared off by the word "chuck" in it maybe but the chuck eye
>> >>>>> is more like a less-presentable ribeye than beef chuck. And it's usually
>> >>>>> just as delicious as a ribeye.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Incidentally, Walmart almost never has good deals on steak around here,
>> >>>> usually seriously disappointing & overpriced. the local grocery chains
>> >>>> tend to beat them hands-down.
>> >>>
>> >>> There's no reason to eat cheap beef. The good stuff is $27 a pound,
>> >>> and worth it.
>> >>>
>> >>> We can get pretty good burger meat for $8.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hmpf. I don't own a condo and a paid-off car at this point in my life by
>> >> paying $27/lb for steaks, man.
>> >
>> > OK, stay away from restaurants.
>>
>> I don't often go to steakhouses. Around here you'd pay $27 at a
>> restaurant for the same steak from a supermarket you can make at home. A
>> steak worth going out for means going to Mooo or Ruth Chris or
>> something, here's Mooo's menu:
>>
>> <https://mooorestaurant.com/menus>
>>
>> A 24 oz porterhouse is going to be $98.
>>
>> > A really good 1/3 lb filet once a month is worth it. I soak mine in
>> > Soy Vey teriyaki and bbq scorched+rare on my tiny gas grill.
>>
>> I tend to have a steak at breakfast more often than dinner, and rarely
>> marinate 'em for that. Just leave it out for about 15 min before
>> cooking, grind some salt & pepper on both sides, then sear in extra
>> light olive over high heat on the stovetop (I use a ceramic-surface
>> skillet) with garlic & butter. EZ
>>
>> > The Brat makes fun of my tiny grill, but she sure eats the results.
>> >
>> > Cheap supermarket beef mostly tastes like cardboard. You can generally
>> > get pretty good chicken and sometimes fish and shrimp.
>>
>> As I say, you can hunt around at a supermarket cooler for cuts of meat
>> that have the combination of low price & good taste, you use your eyes
>> and look at the meat and that's often a good guide to how it'll taste!
>>
>> A dedicated butcher shop is best but unfortunately in suburbia there
>> aren't many of those around, anymore. A few supermarkets still do their
>> own cutting, but it's rare.
>>
>> In any case when at a supermarket instead of a butcher shop I tend to
>> walk away more often than not from the steaks as I don't see anything
>> that looks good for the price.
>>
>> > Really good salmon and black cod and such can be expensive too, and
>> > worth it.
>>
>> Now, in New England fish and seafood is the thing there's no good reason
>> to go to a supermarket for..
>
>Guess you didn't get the memo, but the world's oceans are a toilet. Anyone who eats shellfish or bottom feeder fish, like catfish, is behind the times. No telling the equivalent of how many tampons or pampers you've ingested by now.
>I hear there are feasts to be had in the dumpsters behind the better restaurants. Check it out.

What's really disgusting is that some vegetables grow in dirt that has
*manure* in it!

--

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- Robert Widlar

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 by: jlar...@highlandsniptechnology.com - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 15:20 UTC

On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 07:26:07 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 2:39:52 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
>> The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is now $3.35 at
>> Walmart.
>>
>> Hopefully that's not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very quickly.
>
>The entire food chain is collapsing and the nitwit notices the price of his morning donut has gone up...
>
>https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/food-price-outlook/summary-findings/

One hour of minimum wage will buy about 10 pounds of potatoes or a
couple of loaves of bread or two or three pounds of chicken or two or
three dozen eggs. Safeway sometimes has decent shrimp for $7 a pound.

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John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t80tf1$1rv$1@dont-
email.me:

> nazistic

Not even a word, you retarded ReThugLeTard troll dumbfuck!

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John Dope <always.look@message.header> the Usenet wussy boy wrote in
news:t82348$num$3@dont-email.me:

>> John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
>> news:t80s35$a1$3@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> Russia's goal is to eliminate the threat from Ukraine that NATO is
>>> promoting, like the threat from Ukrainian Nazis. Nevermind all
>>> those bio weapons labs.
>>
>> NATO has never posed any threat to any nation, you pathetic, know
>> nothing idiot.
>>

Too much of a pussy wussy boy to argue your claimed points. So you
revert to your "troll" response with your retarded follow-up header
morph stupidity and no actual response.

It does not get more pussifed than John Dope.

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John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t82avo$fs9$2@dont-email.me:

> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> John Dope wrote:
>
>>> The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is
>>> now $3.35 at Walmart.
>>>
>>> Hopefully that's not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
>>> quickly.
>>
>> The entire food chain is collapsing and the nitwit notices the
>> price of his morning donut has gone up...
>
> Because one notices the price of bread radically increasing,
> therefore one is blind to the "entire food chain collapsing"?
>
> IOW... Segue into your opinion with an illogical insult.
>
As if your economic logic has any merit whatsoever. Your Faux Non-
news rhetoric is pathetic. You really need to wipe the
TrumpShitSmear off your face and eyes.

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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:a0c9ahhvmgmu3f4kh8poednq85qot7vik9@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 07:36:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 9:47:59 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
>>> On 6/10/2022 1:01 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>> > On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:11:14 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On 6/9/2022 10:37 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 18:59:50 -0400, bitrex
>>> >>> <us...@example.net> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On 6/9/2022 6:56 PM, bitrex wrote:
>>> >>>>> On 6/9/2022 5:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:30:33 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
>>> >>>>>> <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-7, John Doe
>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>> The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two
>>> >>>>>>>> years ago is now $3.35 at
>>> >>>>>>>> Walmart.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Hopefully that's not a trend, or things will get REALLY
>>> >>>>>>>> bad very quickly.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Because the basic ingredient (wheat) to make bread can
>>> >>>>>>> not be shipped out of Ukraine. Time for NATO to open
>>> >>>>>>> up the shipping lane. We are already in food world war.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> A loaf of bread is a lot of food for $3.35
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> We pay $12 for good sourdough.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> The real hikes have been in stuff like red meat. I don't
>>> >>>>> eat much red meat but when I do I'm determined to have
>>> >>>>> quality, not ground beef fast food shit.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> There's still some good deals to be had on quality around
>>> >>>>> here though but one has to hunt - even just move packages
>>> >>>>> around in the cooler. I got 3/4 pound chuck eye steak for
>>> >>>>> $3.79 the other day.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> People get scared off by the word "chuck" in it maybe but
>>> >>>>> the chuck eye is more like a less-presentable ribeye than
>>> >>>>> beef chuck. And it's usually just as delicious as a
>>> >>>>> ribeye.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Incidentally, Walmart almost never has good deals on steak
>>> >>>> around here, usually seriously disappointing & overpriced.
>>> >>>> the local grocery chains tend to beat them hands-down.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> There's no reason to eat cheap beef. The good stuff is $27 a
>>> >>> pound, and worth it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We can get pretty good burger meat for $8.
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hmpf. I don't own a condo and a paid-off car at this point in
>>> >> my life by paying $27/lb for steaks, man.
>>> >
>>> > OK, stay away from restaurants.
>>>
>>> I don't often go to steakhouses. Around here you'd pay $27 at a
>>> restaurant for the same steak from a supermarket you can make at
>>> home. A steak worth going out for means going to Mooo or Ruth
>>> Chris or something, here's Mooo's menu:
>>>
>>> <https://mooorestaurant.com/menus>
>>>
>>> A 24 oz porterhouse is going to be $98.
>>>
>>> > A really good 1/3 lb filet once a month is worth it. I soak
>>> > mine in Soy Vey teriyaki and bbq scorched+rare on my tiny gas
>>> > grill.
>>>
>>> I tend to have a steak at breakfast more often than dinner, and
>>> rarely marinate 'em for that. Just leave it out for about 15 min
>>> before cooking, grind some salt & pepper on both sides, then
>>> sear in extra light olive over high heat on the stovetop (I use
>>> a ceramic-surface skillet) with garlic & butter. EZ
>>>
>>> > The Brat makes fun of my tiny grill, but she sure eats the
>>> > results.
>>> >
>>> > Cheap supermarket beef mostly tastes like cardboard. You can
>>> > generally get pretty good chicken and sometimes fish and
>>> > shrimp.
>>>
>>> As I say, you can hunt around at a supermarket cooler for cuts
>>> of meat that have the combination of low price & good taste, you
>>> use your eyes and look at the meat and that's often a good guide
>>> to how it'll taste!
>>>
>>> A dedicated butcher shop is best but unfortunately in suburbia
>>> there aren't many of those around, anymore. A few supermarkets
>>> still do their own cutting, but it's rare.
>>>
>>> In any case when at a supermarket instead of a butcher shop I
>>> tend to walk away more often than not from the steaks as I don't
>>> see anything that looks good for the price.
>>>
>>> > Really good salmon and black cod and such can be expensive
>>> > too, and worth it.
>>>
>>> Now, in New England fish and seafood is the thing there's no
>>> good reason to go to a supermarket for..
>>
>>Guess you didn't get the memo, but the world's oceans are a
>>toilet. Anyone who eats shellfish or bottom feeder fish, like
>>catfish, is behind the times. No telling the equivalent of how
>>many tampons or pampers you've ingested by now. I hear there are
>>feasts to be had in the dumpsters behind the better restaurants.
>>Check it out.
>
> What's really disgusting is that some vegetables grow in dirt that
> has *manure* in it!

It is all starstuff. Managed to come to this form and you want to
cry about where it got its nutrient chains from.

The miracle of life rose up from the muck and you are blind to it
because you are aware of the muck that oozes out of you and cringe at
anything spawned from the muck of others.

I am pretty sure that the 'manure' from herbavore animals is far
less nasty than the stuff that oozes out of your lower and upper
anuses. This upper anus spew you made here is pretty nasty.

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 by: John Doe - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 16:29 UTC

The reactionary foulmouthed group idiot, Always Wrong, needs to expand its
vocabulary.

Russia's goal is to eliminate the threat from Ukraine that NATO is
promoting, like the threat from Ukrainian Nazis. Nevermind all those bio
weapons labs.

https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/russia-pushes-ukrainian-forces-to-
outski-idUSKBN2NO20A

Click on the right angle/arrow a few times and you will see a guy bending
over on the side of the van. He has a swastika tattoo...

A direct link to the picture...

https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20220608&t=2&i=1601377080&w=
780&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=LYNXMPEI5713I

Ukraine is NOT a one-nation state. Ukraine has always been a deeply
divided country: Western Ukraine is traditionally nazistic (they were on
Hitler's side during WW2, and they continue to be nazis) they speak their
own dialect of Ukrainian language and hate everyone else; Transcarpathia
(Ruthenia) is anti-West Ukrainian and moderately pro-Russian but most of
all Ruthenians (they speak their language as well as Russian and
Ukrainian) want to be reunited with Hungary; Central Ukraine is the true
Ukraine. Central Ukraine is moderately anti-West Ukrainian, moderately
pro-Russian, they speak Ukrainian and Russian (in towns). Southern and
Eastern Ukrainians are very anti-West, very pro-Russian, they speak
predominantly Russian language. Cremeans always considered themselves
Russian; hate West Ukrainians.

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

> John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t80tf1$1rv$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
>> nazistic
>
> Not even a word, you retarded ReThugLeTard troll dumbfuck!

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 by: John Doe - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 16:30 UTC

This reactionary foulmouthed group idiot, a.k.a. Always Wrong,
has been insulting and threatening other group members here
for a decade...

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> John Dope <always.look@message.header> the Usenet wussy boy wrote in
> news:t82348$num$3@dont-email.me:
>
>>> John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
>>> news:t80s35$a1$3@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> Russia's goal is to eliminate the threat from Ukraine that NATO is
>>>> promoting, like the threat from Ukrainian Nazis. Nevermind all
>>>> those bio weapons labs.
>>>
>>> NATO has never posed any threat to any nation, you pathetic, know
>>> nothing idiot.
>>>
>
> Too much of a pussy wussy boy to argue your claimed points. So you
> revert to your "troll" response with your retarded follow-up header
> morph stupidity and no actual response.
>
> It does not get more pussifed than John Dope.
>
>

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 by: John Doe - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 16:33 UTC

This reactionary foulmouthed group idiot, a.k.a. Always Wrong,
has been insulting and threatening other group members here
for a decade...

--
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

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> John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
> news:t82avo$fs9$2@dont-email.me:
>
>> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> John Dope wrote:
>>
>>>> The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is
>>>> now $3.35 at Walmart.
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully that's not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
>>>> quickly.
>>>
>>> The entire food chain is collapsing and the nitwit notices the
>>> price of his morning donut has gone up...
>>
>> Because one notices the price of bread radically increasing,
>> therefore one is blind to the "entire food chain collapsing"?
>>
>> IOW... Segue into your opinion with an illogical insult.
>>
> As if your economic logic has any merit whatsoever. Your Faux Non-
> news rhetoric is pathetic. You really need to wipe the
> TrumpShitSmear off your face and eyes.
>
>

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 by: whit3rd - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 16:38 UTC

On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 6:07:22 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
> People who ignore the truth and promote propaganda are hoping this
> Ukrainian Nazi stuff goes away, so they can promote the propaganda
> "it never existed"...

Hey, in any nation with a few million folk, someone will be amused by/consumed
by almost any idea you can conceive. A tattoo isn't the measure
of such a nation. This whole fuss is a John Doe contrivance, not news.

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 by: Edward Hernandez - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 16:38 UTC

Further, John Dope stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope's post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 58.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope has posted at
least 1677 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and
812 have been John Dope "troll format" postings.

The John Dope troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Dope troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Dope troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Sat, 11 Jun 2022 16:30:36 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t82fvc$jh$2@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that John Dope does not even follow
the rules it uses to troll other posters.

GkerrZVwoFHJ

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In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) John Dope stated:

> Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
> NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope's post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 58.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope has posted at
least 1677 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and
812 have been John Dope "troll format" postings.

The Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless Troll Doe has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sat, 11 Jun 2022 16:33:25 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t82g4l$jh$3@dont-email.me>.

4FAMrjlRYgzE

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On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 11:11:59 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 07:36:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 9:47:59 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
> >> On 6/10/2022 1:01 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:11:14 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 6/9/2022 10:37 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >> >>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 18:59:50 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> On 6/9/2022 6:56 PM, bitrex wrote:
> >> >>>>> On 6/9/2022 5:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> >> >>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:30:33 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
> >> >>>>>> <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>> The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is now
> >> >>>>>>>> $3.35 at
> >> >>>>>>>> Walmart.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Hopefully that's not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
> >> >>>>>>>> quickly.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Because the basic ingredient (wheat) to make bread can not be shipped
> >> >>>>>>> out of Ukraine. Time for NATO to open up the shipping lane. We are
> >> >>>>>>> already in food world war.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> A loaf of bread is a lot of food for $3.35
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> We pay $12 for good sourdough.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> The real hikes have been in stuff like red meat. I don't eat much red
> >> >>>>> meat but when I do I'm determined to have quality, not ground beef fast
> >> >>>>> food shit.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> There's still some good deals to be had on quality around here though
> >> >>>>> but one has to hunt - even just move packages around in the cooler. I
> >> >>>>> got 3/4 pound chuck eye steak for $3.79 the other day.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> People get scared off by the word "chuck" in it maybe but the chuck eye
> >> >>>>> is more like a less-presentable ribeye than beef chuck. And it's usually
> >> >>>>> just as delicious as a ribeye.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Incidentally, Walmart almost never has good deals on steak around here,
> >> >>>> usually seriously disappointing & overpriced. the local grocery chains
> >> >>>> tend to beat them hands-down.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> There's no reason to eat cheap beef. The good stuff is $27 a pound,
> >> >>> and worth it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We can get pretty good burger meat for $8.
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hmpf. I don't own a condo and a paid-off car at this point in my life by
> >> >> paying $27/lb for steaks, man.
> >> >
> >> > OK, stay away from restaurants.
> >>
> >> I don't often go to steakhouses. Around here you'd pay $27 at a
> >> restaurant for the same steak from a supermarket you can make at home. A
> >> steak worth going out for means going to Mooo or Ruth Chris or
> >> something, here's Mooo's menu:
> >>
> >> <https://mooorestaurant.com/menus>
> >>
> >> A 24 oz porterhouse is going to be $98.
> >>
> >> > A really good 1/3 lb filet once a month is worth it. I soak mine in
> >> > Soy Vey teriyaki and bbq scorched+rare on my tiny gas grill.
> >>
> >> I tend to have a steak at breakfast more often than dinner, and rarely
> >> marinate 'em for that. Just leave it out for about 15 min before
> >> cooking, grind some salt & pepper on both sides, then sear in extra
> >> light olive over high heat on the stovetop (I use a ceramic-surface
> >> skillet) with garlic & butter. EZ
> >>
> >> > The Brat makes fun of my tiny grill, but she sure eats the results.
> >> >
> >> > Cheap supermarket beef mostly tastes like cardboard. You can generally
> >> > get pretty good chicken and sometimes fish and shrimp.
> >>
> >> As I say, you can hunt around at a supermarket cooler for cuts of meat
> >> that have the combination of low price & good taste, you use your eyes
> >> and look at the meat and that's often a good guide to how it'll taste!
> >>
> >> A dedicated butcher shop is best but unfortunately in suburbia there
> >> aren't many of those around, anymore. A few supermarkets still do their
> >> own cutting, but it's rare.
> >>
> >> In any case when at a supermarket instead of a butcher shop I tend to
> >> walk away more often than not from the steaks as I don't see anything
> >> that looks good for the price.
> >>
> >> > Really good salmon and black cod and such can be expensive too, and
> >> > worth it.
> >>
> >> Now, in New England fish and seafood is the thing there's no good reason
> >> to go to a supermarket for..
> >
> >Guess you didn't get the memo, but the world's oceans are a toilet. Anyone who eats shellfish or bottom feeder fish, like catfish, is behind the times. No telling the equivalent of how many tampons or pampers you've ingested by now.
> >I hear there are feasts to be had in the dumpsters behind the better restaurants. Check it out.
> What's really disgusting is that some vegetables grow in dirt that has
> *manure* in it!

That is not raw manure, it's been treated to kill most pathogens. You don't want to get infected with anything called a PROTOZOA. They cause big problems and are impossible to clear completely.

A lot of these nationwide recalls on contaminated produce are caused by local wildlife wandering into growing fields and pooping on the crops. Some contaminants just won't wash off no matter how they process it. There was something on strawberries from Mexico causing hepatitis, CDC said to just throw them away because it can't be washed off. Hepatitis just means inflamed liver and doesn't necessarily mean the well-known hepatitis virus family. Then this ever more common listeria on leaf crops, seems to make it through processing all time, and get into everything.

PASTE:

Food Safety
For all the benefits of using manure and manure-based composts in the garden, there are also some risks. Animal manures harbor pathogens harmful to humans, including E. coli, Salmonella, and Campylobacter bacteria, and Giardia or Cryptosporidium protozoa. These organisms can affect people when they consume crops contaminated with soil, and under certain conditions, they can be taken up into plant tissue.

The risk from pathogens is greatly reduced when manure is composted correctly. To ensure that pathogens have been killed, the compost pile must reach a high temperature (between 131°F and 140°F) for a sustained period of time (several weeks). The compost must also be turned regularly and carefully monitored so that all of the manure has been exposed to sufficient temperatures. In home compost piles and in unmanaged manure piles, this rarely happens. Aged manure is not the same as composted manure, and it is not safe to assume that pathogens in an aged manure pile have been destroyed.

Another strategy for destroying pathogens is pasteurization. Some commercial poultry manure products are processed in this way. Pathogens, begin to die once incorporated into garden soil, and research has shown that incorporating manure at least 120 days before harvest greatly reduces risks of food borne illness.
> --
>
> Anybody can count to one.
>
> - Robert Widlar

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 by: John Doe - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 17:18 UTC

In fact, it's (at best) a random picture, uploaded by a Russia-hostile entity.
The fact it counters their propaganda is incriminating.

https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/russia-pushes-ukrainian-forces-to-outski-idUSKBN2NO20A

The picture of a Ukrainian with a Nazi swastika on its arm is still there
as of right now. Imagine how much Ukrainian Nazi stuff they are
successfully hiding from you.

Click on the right angle/arrow a few times and you will see a guy bending
over on the side of the van. He has a swastika tattoo...

A direct link to the picture...

https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20220608&t=2&i=1601377080&w=780&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=LYNXMPEI5713I

If propagandists ignore it long enough, maybe Reuters will take it down.

See no evil!

Looks like Reuters took this location down already. In Firefox, there is a
placeholder for the picture slideshow (as below). In Edge, there is no
placeholder for it...

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/battle-ukraines-east-rages-zelenskiy-vows-retake-territory-2022-06-07/

Ukraine is NOT a one-nation state. Ukraine has always been a deeply
divided country: Western Ukraine is traditionally nazistic (they were on
Hitler's side during WW2, and they continue to be nazis) they speak their
own dialect of Ukrainian language and hate everyone else; Transcarpathia
(Ruthenia) is anti-West Ukrainian and moderately pro-Russian but most of
all Ruthenians (they speak their language as well as Russian and
Ukrainian) want to be reunited with Hungary; Central Ukraine is the true
Ukraine. Central Ukraine is moderately anti-West Ukrainian, moderately
pro-Russian, they speak Ukrainian and Russian (in towns). Southern and
Eastern Ukrainians are very anti-West, very pro-Russian, they speak
predominantly Russian language. Cremeans always considered themselves
Russian; hate West Ukrainians.

whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 6:07:22 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
>> People who ignore the truth and promote propaganda are hoping this
>> Ukrainian Nazi stuff goes away, so they can promote the propaganda
>> "it never existed"...
>
> Hey, in any nation with a few million folk, someone will be amused by/consumed
> by almost any idea you can conceive. A tattoo isn't the measure
> of such a nation. This whole fuss is a John Doe contrivance, not news.
>

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 by: jlar...@highlandsniptechnology.com - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 17:43 UTC

On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 16:07:26 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
>news:a0c9ahhvmgmu3f4kh8poednq85qot7vik9@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 07:36:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 9:47:59 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
>>>> On 6/10/2022 1:01 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>> > On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:11:14 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 6/9/2022 10:37 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 18:59:50 -0400, bitrex
>>>> >>> <us...@example.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> On 6/9/2022 6:56 PM, bitrex wrote:
>>>> >>>>> On 6/9/2022 5:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:30:33 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
>>>> >>>>>> <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-7, John Doe
>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>> The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two
>>>> >>>>>>>> years ago is now $3.35 at
>>>> >>>>>>>> Walmart.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Hopefully that's not a trend, or things will get REALLY
>>>> >>>>>>>> bad very quickly.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Because the basic ingredient (wheat) to make bread can
>>>> >>>>>>> not be shipped out of Ukraine. Time for NATO to open
>>>> >>>>>>> up the shipping lane. We are already in food world war.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> A loaf of bread is a lot of food for $3.35
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> We pay $12 for good sourdough.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> The real hikes have been in stuff like red meat. I don't
>>>> >>>>> eat much red meat but when I do I'm determined to have
>>>> >>>>> quality, not ground beef fast food shit.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> There's still some good deals to be had on quality around
>>>> >>>>> here though but one has to hunt - even just move packages
>>>> >>>>> around in the cooler. I got 3/4 pound chuck eye steak for
>>>> >>>>> $3.79 the other day.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> People get scared off by the word "chuck" in it maybe but
>>>> >>>>> the chuck eye is more like a less-presentable ribeye than
>>>> >>>>> beef chuck. And it's usually just as delicious as a
>>>> >>>>> ribeye.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Incidentally, Walmart almost never has good deals on steak
>>>> >>>> around here, usually seriously disappointing & overpriced.
>>>> >>>> the local grocery chains tend to beat them hands-down.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> There's no reason to eat cheap beef. The good stuff is $27 a
>>>> >>> pound, and worth it.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> We can get pretty good burger meat for $8.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hmpf. I don't own a condo and a paid-off car at this point in
>>>> >> my life by paying $27/lb for steaks, man.
>>>> >
>>>> > OK, stay away from restaurants.
>>>>
>>>> I don't often go to steakhouses. Around here you'd pay $27 at a
>>>> restaurant for the same steak from a supermarket you can make at
>>>> home. A steak worth going out for means going to Mooo or Ruth
>>>> Chris or something, here's Mooo's menu:
>>>>
>>>> <https://mooorestaurant.com/menus>
>>>>
>>>> A 24 oz porterhouse is going to be $98.
>>>>
>>>> > A really good 1/3 lb filet once a month is worth it. I soak
>>>> > mine in Soy Vey teriyaki and bbq scorched+rare on my tiny gas
>>>> > grill.
>>>>
>>>> I tend to have a steak at breakfast more often than dinner, and
>>>> rarely marinate 'em for that. Just leave it out for about 15 min
>>>> before cooking, grind some salt & pepper on both sides, then
>>>> sear in extra light olive over high heat on the stovetop (I use
>>>> a ceramic-surface skillet) with garlic & butter. EZ
>>>>
>>>> > The Brat makes fun of my tiny grill, but she sure eats the
>>>> > results.
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheap supermarket beef mostly tastes like cardboard. You can
>>>> > generally get pretty good chicken and sometimes fish and
>>>> > shrimp.
>>>>
>>>> As I say, you can hunt around at a supermarket cooler for cuts
>>>> of meat that have the combination of low price & good taste, you
>>>> use your eyes and look at the meat and that's often a good guide
>>>> to how it'll taste!
>>>>
>>>> A dedicated butcher shop is best but unfortunately in suburbia
>>>> there aren't many of those around, anymore. A few supermarkets
>>>> still do their own cutting, but it's rare.
>>>>
>>>> In any case when at a supermarket instead of a butcher shop I
>>>> tend to walk away more often than not from the steaks as I don't
>>>> see anything that looks good for the price.
>>>>
>>>> > Really good salmon and black cod and such can be expensive
>>>> > too, and worth it.
>>>>
>>>> Now, in New England fish and seafood is the thing there's no
>>>> good reason to go to a supermarket for..
>>>
>>>Guess you didn't get the memo, but the world's oceans are a
>>>toilet. Anyone who eats shellfish or bottom feeder fish, like
>>>catfish, is behind the times. No telling the equivalent of how
>>>many tampons or pampers you've ingested by now. I hear there are
>>>feasts to be had in the dumpsters behind the better restaurants.
>>>Check it out.
>>
>> What's really disgusting is that some vegetables grow in dirt that
>> has *manure* in it!
>
> It is all starstuff. Managed to come to this form and you want to
>cry about where it got its nutrient chains from.
>
> The miracle of life rose up from the muck and you are blind to it
>because you are aware of the muck that oozes out of you and cringe at
>anything spawned from the muck of others.
>
> I am pretty sure that the 'manure' from herbavore animals is far
>less nasty than the stuff that oozes out of your lower and upper
>anuses. This upper anus spew you made here is pretty nasty.

All my body parts perform their intended functions very well [1].

How do yours work? You do seem to be constantly concerned with
digestive issues.

[1] except my eyes, but that will soon get fixed. It's amazing what
ophthalmologists can do these days.

--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

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 by: rbowman - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 18:35 UTC

On 06/11/2022 05:16 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
> John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
> news:t80s35$a1$3@dont-email.me:
>
>> Russia's goal is to eliminate the threat from Ukraine that NATO is
>> promoting, like the threat from Ukrainian Nazis. Nevermind all
>> those bio weapons labs.
>
> NATO has never posed any threat to any nation, you pathetic, know
> nothing idiot.
>

https://balkaninsight.com/2019/03/22/78-days-of-fear-remembering-natos-bombing-of-yugoslavia/

https://1995blog.com/2014/08/12/lesson-misunderstood-natos-1995-bombing-in-bosnia/

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 by: rbowman - Sat, 11 Jun 2022 18:43 UTC

On 06/11/2022 09:11 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 07:36:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 9:47:59 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
>>> On 6/10/2022 1:01 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:11:14 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/9/2022 10:37 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 18:59:50 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 6:56 PM, bitrex wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/9/2022 5:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:30:33 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
>>>>>>>>> <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is now
>>>>>>>>>>> $3.35 at
>>>>>>>>>>> Walmart.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully that's not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
>>>>>>>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Because the basic ingredient (wheat) to make bread can not be shipped
>>>>>>>>>> out of Ukraine. Time for NATO to open up the shipping lane. We are
>>>>>>>>>> already in food world war.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A loaf of bread is a lot of food for $3.35
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We pay $12 for good sourdough.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The real hikes have been in stuff like red meat. I don't eat much red
>>>>>>>> meat but when I do I'm determined to have quality, not ground beef fast
>>>>>>>> food shit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's still some good deals to be had on quality around here though
>>>>>>>> but one has to hunt - even just move packages around in the cooler. I
>>>>>>>> got 3/4 pound chuck eye steak for $3.79 the other day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> People get scared off by the word "chuck" in it maybe but the chuck eye
>>>>>>>> is more like a less-presentable ribeye than beef chuck. And it's usually
>>>>>>>> just as delicious as a ribeye.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Incidentally, Walmart almost never has good deals on steak around here,
>>>>>>> usually seriously disappointing & overpriced. the local grocery chains
>>>>>>> tend to beat them hands-down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's no reason to eat cheap beef. The good stuff is $27 a pound,
>>>>>> and worth it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can get pretty good burger meat for $8.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmpf. I don't own a condo and a paid-off car at this point in my life by
>>>>> paying $27/lb for steaks, man.
>>>>
>>>> OK, stay away from restaurants.
>>>
>>> I don't often go to steakhouses. Around here you'd pay $27 at a
>>> restaurant for the same steak from a supermarket you can make at home. A
>>> steak worth going out for means going to Mooo or Ruth Chris or
>>> something, here's Mooo's menu:
>>>
>>> <https://mooorestaurant.com/menus>
>>>
>>> A 24 oz porterhouse is going to be $98.
>>>
>>>> A really good 1/3 lb filet once a month is worth it. I soak mine in
>>>> Soy Vey teriyaki and bbq scorched+rare on my tiny gas grill.
>>>
>>> I tend to have a steak at breakfast more often than dinner, and rarely
>>> marinate 'em for that. Just leave it out for about 15 min before
>>> cooking, grind some salt & pepper on both sides, then sear in extra
>>> light olive over high heat on the stovetop (I use a ceramic-surface
>>> skillet) with garlic & butter. EZ
>>>
>>>> The Brat makes fun of my tiny grill, but she sure eats the results.
>>>>
>>>> Cheap supermarket beef mostly tastes like cardboard. You can generally
>>>> get pretty good chicken and sometimes fish and shrimp.
>>>
>>> As I say, you can hunt around at a supermarket cooler for cuts of meat
>>> that have the combination of low price & good taste, you use your eyes
>>> and look at the meat and that's often a good guide to how it'll taste!
>>>
>>> A dedicated butcher shop is best but unfortunately in suburbia there
>>> aren't many of those around, anymore. A few supermarkets still do their
>>> own cutting, but it's rare.
>>>
>>> In any case when at a supermarket instead of a butcher shop I tend to
>>> walk away more often than not from the steaks as I don't see anything
>>> that looks good for the price.
>>>
>>>> Really good salmon and black cod and such can be expensive too, and
>>>> worth it.
>>>
>>> Now, in New England fish and seafood is the thing there's no good reason
>>> to go to a supermarket for..
>>
>> Guess you didn't get the memo, but the world's oceans are a toilet. Anyone who eats shellfish or bottom feeder fish, like catfish, is behind the times. No telling the equivalent of how many tampons or pampers you've ingested by now.
>> I hear there are feasts to be had in the dumpsters behind the better restaurants. Check it out.
>
> What's really disgusting is that some vegetables grow in dirt that has
> *manure* in it!

https://www.themunicipal.com/2020/08/missoula-integrates-composting-into-wastewater-operations/

The part of the lawn I reseeded this spring is doing well on a diet of
'biosolids'.


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