6/12/22, 15:53, John Dope:

> Wow, there is no match on Google's search engine for "upnphosts.dll"
> except in this thread.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=upnphosts.dll&ia=web

In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) John Doe stated:

> Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
> NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 58.5% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1709 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and
827 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

The Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless Troll Doe has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 13 Jun 2022 00:37:44 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t860sn$mrk$1@dont-email.me>.

u8OvtMwSWin0

6/12/22, 15:53, John Dope:

> Wow, there is no match on Google's search engine for "upnphosts.dll"
> except in this thread.

Could be your browser is messed up. First, reinstall Windows.

Yep, for some strange reason, removing the quotes allows Google's search
engine to find information about "upnphosts.dll" in Windows XP.

Easy to understand why the original poster is confused about that being
important, but it has nothing to do with RECOGNIZING the hardware.
Plug-and-play devices are hardware just like every other piece of
hardware. They all require an INF file for configuration.

allintext:upnphosts (installation OR webcam)

Brings up nothing except this thread.

Now we've got that monumental task done.

Try to find it related to an installation.

We're getting there...

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> Subject: Re: OT: plug and pray webcam on windows xp
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> 6/12/22, 15:53, John Dope:
>
>> Wow, there is no match on Google's search engine for "upnphosts.dll"
>> except in this thread.
>
> Could be your browser is messed up. First, reinstall Windows.
>
>

Try to find ANY DLL file related to the RECOGNITION of hardware...

In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) John Doe stated:

> Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
> NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 58.5% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1713 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and
829 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

The Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless Troll Doe has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Mon, 13 Jun 2022 01:10:19 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t862pr$28b$2@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that Troll Doe does not even follow
the rules it uses to troll other posters.

SffqeeoBbpwi

6/12/22, 17:37, John Dope:
> There are three files for download, all of them download just fine.

There is one file, Drivers.zip

> There is a firmware upgrade, a brochure (IIRC), and a few sales
> pictures.

Perhaps inside the ONE file, Drivers.zip

> Maybe this nym-shifting troll's browser is messed up.

The site is messed up.
Top of the page, SUPPORT->DOWNLOAD->DRIVERS->There are no items that
meet the following criteria

> OR maybe it doesn't have the skill to use a Mac, either.

Not yet, after 7 months. I hate the menu bars being across the very top
of the screen, rather than part of a program's window. Launchpad icons
can't be sorted well, it's like playing Rubiks Cube.

Shirley Safari has a search function in its browser?

Some unskilled users must be taught to SCROLL DOWN and READ before
continuing to frantically click the mouse.

Search for "DOWNLOAD" and look to see if there is more than one hit. The
firmware, brochure, and sales pictures downloads are near the Footer. The
Footer is at the bottom of the page.

The exact (two word) path that the nym-shifting troll snipped...

DOWNLOAD > Drivers

6/12/22, 18:33, John Dope:
> Shirley Safari has a search function in its browser?

Don't know, never use it.

Spotlight is impressive, and not limited to any particular browser or to
net searches.
55lb = 24.95 kilograms

> Some unskilled users must be taught to SCROLL DOWN and READ before
> continuing to frantically click the mouse.
>
> Search for "DOWNLOAD" and look to see if there is more than one hit.
> The firmware, brochure, and sales pictures downloads are near the
> Footer. The Footer is at the bottom of the page.
>
> The exact (two word) path that the nym-shifting troll snipped...
>
> DOWNLOAD > Drivers

Not hunting down through the page when what I'm looking for is offered
right at the top.

The site is messed up, unquestionably, as I described it.

6/12/22, 18:07, John Dope:
> Yep, for some strange reason, removing the quotes allows Google's
> search engine to find information about "upnphosts.dll" in Windows
> XP.

You can't even use Google!

> Easy to understand why the original poster is confused about that
> being important, but it has nothing to do with RECOGNIZING the
> hardware. Plug-and-play devices are hardware

You ignorant dope.
https://www.lifewire.com/universal-plug-and-play-4153001

> just like every other piece of hardware. They all require an INF file
> for configuration.
>
> allintext:upnphosts (installation OR webcam)
>
> Brings up nothing except this thread.

Universal Plug And Play (UPnP) has nothing to do with RECOGNIZING or
DRIVING hardware. The term "Discover" has to do with COMMUNICATIONS
between devices, not about Windows RECOGNIZING a device.

https://www.lifewire.com/plug-and-play-4152995

What Is Plug and Play?

Plug and Play-not to be confused with Universal Plug and Play (UPnP)-is a
set of operating system standards that enable hardware connectivity
through automatic device detection and configuration. Before Plug and
Play, users had to manually change complex settings (for example, dip
switches, jumper blocks, I/O addresses, IRQ, and DMA) for hardware to
function correctly. Such manual configuration is the fallback option with
Plug and Play functionality. It may be turned to when a device is not
recognized or automatically engaged.

I used to do that stuff...

"Your soundcard is working perfectly!"

I don't know what files are involved with Windows' plug-and-play. Unlikely
DLLs have anything to do with it, it's all about INF files. Probably a
huge collection of text files. Hardware makers write and then give their
INF files to Microsoft.

6/12/22, 19:34, John Dope:
> Universal Plug And Play (UPnP) has nothing to do with RECOGNIZING or
> DRIVING hardware. The term "Discover" has to do with COMMUNICATIONS
> between devices, not about Windows RECOGNIZING a device.
>
> https://www.lifewire.com/plug-and-play-4152995
>
> What Is Plug and Play?
>
> Plug and Play-not to be confused with Universal Plug and Play (UPnP)

Don't copy/paste to us now, dope. The OP mentioned finding a different
upnphosts.dll and you've been mixing that up with pnp throughout this
thread.

The reason the original poster was looking for a UPNP DLL file is because
it was confused about why Windows was not recognizing its WebCam.

Then this nym-shifting troll came along and started blabbing about DLL
files necessary for running programs, which has nothing to do with Windows
RECOGNIZING a device.

Methinks this nym-shifting troll is drunk...

see also...
=?UTF-8?Q?C=c3=b6rvid?= <bl_ckbirds.org>
=?UTF-8?B?8J+QriBDb3dzIGFyZSBOaWNlIPCfkK4=?= <nice_cows.moo>
Banders <snap_mailchute.com>
Covid-19 <always.look_message.header>
corvid <bl_ckb.ird>
Corvid <bl_ckbirds.net>
Corvid <bl_ckbirds.org>
Cows Are Nice <cows_nice.moo>
Cows are nice <moo_cows.org>
Cows are Nice <nice_cows.moo>
dogs <dogs_home.com>
Great Pumpkin <pumpkin_patch.net>
Jose Curvo <jcurvo_mymail.com>
Local Favorite <how2recycle_palomar.info>
Sea <freshness_coast.org>
Standard Poodle <standard_poodle.com>
triangles <build_home.com>
and others...

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> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
> Subject: Re: OT: plug and pray webcam on windows xp
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> 6/12/22, 19:34, John Dope:
>> Universal Plug And Play (UPnP) has nothing to do with RECOGNIZING or
>> DRIVING hardware. The term "Discover" has to do with COMMUNICATIONS
>> between devices, not about Windows RECOGNIZING a device.
>>
>> https://www.lifewire.com/plug-and-play-4152995
>>
>> What Is Plug and Play?
>>
>> Plug and Play-not to be confused with Universal Plug and Play (UPnP)
>
> Don't copy/paste to us now, dope. The OP mentioned finding a different
> upnphosts.dll and you've been mixing that up with pnp throughout this
> thread.
>
>

In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) John Dope stated:

> Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
> NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope's post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 58.6% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope has posted at
least 1718 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and
833 have been John Dope "troll format" postings.

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 13 Jun 2022 02:57:18 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t8692d$6m3$1@dont-email.me>.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that Troll Doe does not even follow
the rules it uses to troll other posters.

IopaL5mkRndn

6/12/22, 19:57, lying John Dope writes:
> The reason the original poster was looking for a UPNP DLL file

He never said that's what he was looking for.

> is because it was confused about why Windows was not recognizing its
> WebCam.

Obviously! He and everyone else.

> Then this nym-shifting troll came along and started blabbing about
> DLL files necessary for running programs,

Wasn't me, YOU started blabbing about them:

"Hopefully you restored the prior DLL after the "much longer version"
failed. Otherwise, that sort of manipulation could be the problem."

So I posted a followup, to YOUR blab, with a few words about why we find
different versions of the supposedly same dll, and how the 'right' one
for a task here may mean you sacrifice something somewhere else:

"Software makers often enough include their own versions of dlls, using
the same name as everyone else's version, with no concern about breaking
another program that was already there before its dll got overwritten."

John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t85c23$8rp$2@dont-
email.me:

> That's because installing plug-and-play hardware is more of an art.

Maybe you should learn the definitions of a few words you seem to
have completely morphed your brain on. Like "art".

John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t85c23$8rp$2@dont-
email.me:

> We
> must assume a good Windows installation and your new hardware which
> obviously should be functional. That's why the suggestion will be
> "reinstall Windows".

If you are assuming it is a "good installation" then where is the
benefit of "re-installation"? A very long, time consuming, settings
deleting mess. Not to mention the lack of any MS support for the many
needed files upon installation.

John Dope is not very bright.

John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t85gnl$cok$1@dont-
email.me:

> The poster has the brain-cell-killing anti-American virus.
>

You're an abject idiot.

Instead of you just croaking, I would invite a violent end for you.
After all, an angry fucktard like you deserves a little excruciating
karmic dogma before you go.

John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t85mjl$s64$1@dont-email.me:

> Pretending that is a "PCI controller" and we have a performance
> problem (not an installation problem)...

You are mumbling, again... boy.

corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote in news:t85nke$6uj$1@gioia.aioe.org:

> On 6/10/22 07:31, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
>> On 6/10/2022 9:19, Charlie+ wrote:
>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 02:33:43 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff
>>> <dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote as underneath :
>>>
>>>> snip
>>> Why not ask in an appropriate ng?
>>> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Still active - you might get
>>> some sensible answers there! C+
>>
>> Oh I have seen answers on such groups and they are 100% useless,
>> of the kind unplug it and plug it again etc.
>
> If you get Paul's attention in alt.comp.os.windows-10, you'll get
> good information. He's on another level.
>
> Sadly, you'll see that John Dope is there.
>

Oh geez... lemmie guess... he thinks he is a computer wiz?

Once again, the reactionary foulmouthed group idiot, a.k.a. Always Wrong,
acts like it's off its meds again, insulting and threatening others in
this group, as it has for many years...

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> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
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> John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t85gnl$cok$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
>> The poster has the brain-cell-killing anti-American virus.
>>
>
> You're an abject idiot.
>
> Instead of you just croaking, I would invite a violent end for you.
> After all, an angry fucktard like you deserves a little excruciating
> karmic dogma before you go.
>

The stock market is lower than when Joseph Biden took office...

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

> corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote in news:t85nke$6uj$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>
>> On 6/10/22 07:31, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
>>> On 6/10/2022 9:19, Charlie+ wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 02:33:43 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff
>>>> <dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote as underneath :
>>>>
>>>>> snip
>>>> Why not ask in an appropriate ng?
>>>> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Still active - you might get
>>>> some sensible answers there! C+
>>>
>>> Oh I have seen answers on such groups and they are 100% useless,
>>> of the kind unplug it and plug it again etc.
>>
>> If you get Paul's attention in alt.comp.os.windows-10, you'll get
>> good information. He's on another level.
>>
>> Sadly, you'll see that John Dope is there.
>>
>
> Oh geez... lemmie guess... he thinks he is a computer wiz?
>

In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) John Dope stated:

> Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
> NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope's post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 59.0% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope has posted at
least 1760 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and
865 have been John Dope "troll format" postings.

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 14 Jun 2022 21:48:34 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t8avnh$54k$1@dont-email.me>.

0AeJlxuuEHVZ

On 6/14/22 14:45, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
> corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote in news:t85nke$6uj$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>
>> If you get Paul's attention in alt.comp.os.windows-10, you'll get
>> good information. He's on another level.
>>
>> Sadly, you'll see that John Dope is there.
>>
> Oh geez... lemmie guess... he thinks he is a computer wiz?

Same as he becomes a scientist over here.