On Sunday, 17 July 2022 at 18:18:51 UTC+2, a a wrote:
> On Sunday, 17 July 2022 at 04:17:44 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 3:00:03 AM UTC+10, a a wrote:
> > > On Saturday, 16 July 2022 at 02:44:54 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 3:02:33 AM UTC+10, a a wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, 15 July 2022 at 13:48:46 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 6:59:11 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, 15 July 2022 at 03:35:48 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 8:46:00 AM UTC+10, Judge Dredd wrote:
> > > > > > > > > The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On 02/12/2018 08:32, Tom Gardner wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On 01/12/18 23:57, Rod Speed wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> "Tom Gardner" <spam...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > >> news:NmDMD.344300$T01....@fx08.am4...
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> I'm glad you recognise your previous error, viz about us not living in a democracy.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > A typically coherent and convincing argument from a brexiteer.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Rod speed is not a Brexiteer. He is an Australian troll and arsehole and if you haven't plonked him, that makes you one too.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
> > > > > > > > > > Mark Twain
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jake Isks hasn't notice that this is a three-year-old thread.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Climate Change should read
> > > > > > > Climate Changes = an ancient tautology by Heraclitus
> > > > > > > Everything flows , Panta Rhei
> > > > > > A a is an ignorant half-wit, quite as silly as Cursitor Doom.
> > > > > > > “Everything flows
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > “Panta Rhei,” commonly translated as “Everything flows,” is the most famous aphorism attributed to the presocratic philosopher. Although at first, it may not appear that deep, Heraclitus’ remark is one of the most profound and influential sayings in the history of western civilization.
> > > > > > According to a a.
> > > > > > > So, what did Heraclitus exactly mean?
> > > > > > > Panta Rhei: What Did Heraclitus Mean? - TheColl…
> > > > > > > thecollector.com
> > > > > > > The formula panta rhei (Greek : πάντα ῥεῖ, "everything flows") is an aphorism traced back to the Greek philosopher Heraclitus.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sadly for a a, "climate change" isn't a superficial observation about the weather one day being different from the next, but rather an extremely precise series of observation about specific aspects of the atmosphere that suggest that is changing rapidly enough to be worrying as a direct consequence of us burning a lot of fossil carbon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Heraclitus would not have known what we meant by fossil carbon, so his observations aren't exactly germane. Cursitor Doom started this thread back in November 2018 with an equally stupid claim.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Australia is dead horse today and totally collapsed on covid19
> > > > It's moved beyond horses
> > > >
> > > > https://hb11.energy/
> > > >
> > > > There's some Covid-19 circulating, but more than 95% of the over-16s have been vaccinated, so it 's more of an inconvenience than an epidemic.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2022/07/covid-19-vaccine-rollout-update-15-july-2022.pdf
> > > >
> > > > > #GlobalWarming is an old fake by Al Gore, Prof. Mann, IPCC, UNFCC to make easy money, selling delusions
> > > >
> > > > Actually, that's climate change denial propaganda, aimed at letting an irresponsible minority keep on selling fossil carbon as fuel.
> > > > A a is too silly to realise that he is being suckered. So is John Larkin. You don't have to be stupid to be gullible.
> > > >
> > > > > Climate Changes are due to fluctuations in solar activity, never studied by fake science, since climate fakers never studied astronomy.
> > > >
> > > > The solar constant has been studied for pretty much as long as we've been able to measure it accurately (which isn't all that long). It doesn't explain the ice-age/inter-glacial alternation but a a has always been happy to ignore that problem, probably because he is too dumb to recognise it as a problem
> > > >
> > > > <snipped the usual rubbish>
> > >
> > > ask Bill #BlueScreen to stop playing with old threads on this usenet group
> > It was Jake Isks who revived the thread. A a is quite as dumb as Jake Isks, so he hasn't noticed.
> >
> > <snipped more of a a's rubbish>
> >
> > --
> > Bill Sloman, Sydney
> go away idiot
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> 16 Jul 2022, 18:11:11 (yesterday)
> On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 4:15:39 AM UTC+11, newshound wrote: > On 25/11/2018 18:49, upsid.
--The most abundant greenhouse gases in Earth's atmosphere, listed in decreasing order of average global mole fraction, are:[14][15]

-Water vapor (H
2O)
Carbon dioxide (CO
2)
Methane (CH
4)
Nitrous oxide (N
2O)
Ozone (O
3)
Chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs and HCFCs)
Hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs)
Perfluorocarbons (CF
4, C
2F
6, etc.), SF
6, and NF

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--Role of water vapor
Increasing water vapor in the stratosphere at Boulder, Colorado

--Water vapor accounts for the largest percentage of the greenhouse effect, between 36% and 66% for clear sky conditions and between 66% and 85% when including clouds.[21] Water vapor concentrations fluctuate regionally, but human activity does not directly affect water vapor concentrations except at local scales, such as near irrigated fields. Indirectly, human activity that increases global temperatures will increase water vapor concentrations, a process known as water vapor feedback.[22] The atmospheric concentration of vapor is highly variable and depends largely on temperature, from less than 0.01% in extremely cold regions up to 3% by mass in saturated air at about 32 °C.[23] (See Relative humidity#Other important facts.)

--The average residence time of a water molecule in the atmosphere is only about nine days, compared to years or centuries for other greenhouse gases such as CH
4 and CO2.[24] Water vapor responds to and amplifies effects of the other greenhouse gases. The Clausius–Clapeyron relation establishes that more water vapor will be present per unit volume at elevated temperatures. This and other basic principles indicate that warming associated with increased concentrations of the other greenhouse gases also will increase the concentration of water vapor (assuming that the relative humidity remains approximately constant; modeling and observational studies find that this is indeed so). Because water vapor is a greenhouse gas, this results in further warming and so is a "positive feedback" that amplifies the original warming.. Eventually other earth processes[which?] offset these positive feedbacks, stabilizing the global temperature at a new equilibrium and preventing the loss of Earth's water through a Venus-like runaway greenhouse effect.[22]

--Contribution of clouds to Earth's greenhouse effect

--The major non-gas contributor to Earth's greenhouse effect, clouds, also absorb and emit infrared radiation and thus have an effect on greenhouse gas radiative properties. Clouds are water droplets or ice crystals suspended in the atmosphere.[25][21]

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--When ranked by their direct contribution to the greenhouse effect, the most important are:[25][failed verification]
Compound
Formula
Concentration in
atmosphere[31] (ppm) Contribution
(%)
Water vapor and clouds H
2O 10–50,000(A) 36–72%
Carbon dioxide CO2 ~400 9–26%
Methane CH
4 ~1.8 4–9%
Ozone O
3 2–8(B) 3–7%
notes:

--(A) Water vapor strongly varies locally[32]

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--Anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions

--The way land is used affects climate change and the emission of greenhouse gases; the agriculture, land uses, and other land uses sector, on average, accounted for 13-21% of global total anthropogenic greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions in the period 2010-2019 (medium confidence).[91]

--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas