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Subject: Re: Photo taken in 1977 (was - Mac drive letters?)
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 by: Whisky-dave - Sun, 26 Jun 2022 01:41 UTC

On Saturday, 25 June 2022 at 19:29:13 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 12:35:40 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, 23 June 2022 at 19:52:18 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 13:53:27 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wednesday, 15 June 2022 at 09:19:30 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 13:10:25 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 at 01:59:32 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 13:38:40 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 at 19:42:10 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 10:49:44 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 04:29:38 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 16 May 2022 14:49:43 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > On Friday, 13 May 2022 at 02:05:22 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 05 May 2022 14:01:01 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Thursday, 5 May 2022 at 12:24:55 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 04 May 2022 23:16:42 +0100, David Brooks <D....@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > You really are nuts!
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What do you use your handbrake for? It really does serve no purpose.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I thought it's main use was for when you park on a hill.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> It would have to be a fucking steep hill,
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > we even have some of those in London, thought you'd have some in scotland too.
> >> >> >> >> >> Not often I park on them. Can always turn the wheel to the kerb, instead of relying on a brake which is operated by something very similar to a bicycle brake cable!
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Seems to work for most people I didn;t think turning the steering wheel would stop a car moving I thought that was how you made it go
> >> >> >> >> > in a particular directionof choice.
> >> >> >> >> It stops it when the wheels rest against the kerb obviously, everyone knows that.
> >> >> >> > I guess all the roads you stop on have kerbs, even I;'ve had to stop on a hill where there was no kerb at that's in London.
> >> >> >> If there's no kerb, there's usually something uneven about it. Anyway you only need that on a steep hill. Putting it in gear should normally be enough.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Strange thatcars still have handbrakes if they are not needed.
> >> >> They are if you live in a steep area, or are too thick to be able to do a hill start with the footbrake.
> >> >
> >> > I thought cars could be used for traveling around and even visiting places you don't live.
> >> > Been strange to see a car without a handbrake and there's a warning sticker saying not to be driven to places where you don't live or where there are steep hills.
> >> > I know F1 cars dont; have them but it;s not exactly a large market for such cars.
> >> It needs to be a very steep hill to need the handbrake. I've only ever encountered two.
> >
> > I've encountered more than that on driving lessons
> Are you younger than I thought? I thought you were older than me.

Yep I am older than you.

> > in chingford mount with a bus lane on the left
> > there was no kerb, waiting for the lights and the large lorry trying to turn.
> > If handbrakes weren't useful they wouldn;t waste money having them.
> They're for learner drivers. I hill start with the footbrake.

doesn't mean it the best way though.

> >> >> >> >> >> >> I just use the gears or turn the wheels into the kerb. I did once park on a steep hill without turning the wheels to the kerb. A passerby shouted to me "your car is dancing!" It was trying to start the engine and jumping back a few inches at a time in gear.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > I wonder how Electric cars get around this, as I didn;t think they had gears in the same way.
> >> >> >> >> >> Shorted motor? Or the same as an automatic petrol car, a bolt through the gearbox.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > why would an electric car have a gear box ?
> >> >> >> >> It could go through something else. And sports one sometimes do, but usually not as it's hard to make one that can take that much power.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > That's not what they are for.
> >> >> >> Not what what are for? Gearboxes or stopping pins?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hand brakes aren't for power stopping.
> >> >> WTf do you mean "power" stopping. I'm talking about preventing movement when parked.
> >> >
> >> > Yes that was what they are for but yuo seem to think they aren;t needed beacuse you can use steering of just not stoping on slopes is the answer
> >> If it's a town road with a kerb, then yes you can use the kerb like a chock.
> >> >> > Youy don;t use the handbrake for an emergency stop.
> >> >> You do when the footbrake fails. I had a car for 6 months with zero footbrakes, I used gears and the handbrake to come to a stop.
> >> >
> >> > Lucky they yuo had a handbrake in yuor world you say they aren;t needed so how would you have stopped the car ?
> >> I would have fixed one of foot/handbrake.
> >
> > you said you had that situation for 6 months how long does it take to fix a handbrake ?
> It wasn't broken, the footbrake was broken.

So you used the handbrake lucky had one.

> >> > Oh yes using stearing to the kerb of driving up steep hills to slow down.
> >> Why would I need to slow down when going uphill?
> >
> > when approaching lights, changing to red when the bus stops.
> Gears.

are for slowing down or speeding up

> >> > You sound like something from a Mr Bean sketch.
> >> I must give you a lift sometime, you'll be grabbing things for dear life. I once gave a lift to three colleagues. The one in the front seat found it amusing when I went more than double the speed limit over speedbumps, causing the women in the back to bash their heads off the roof.
> >
> > Only been in a speeding car twice once a cab at 3am. about 60 or a 30 road. The police stopped him, but I surprised when they just said oh it's a BMW and then said just don;t do it again and that was it.
> They let him off because it was a BMW?

That's what it sounded like they had trouble catching up catching up, must have been quite a fast acceleration
as it took them a while, he stopped apologised, said he was a cab and driving up home.
The road was pretty empty at that time. He wasn't a boy racer I think they could tell.

>
> That's not what happened when I was going a tonne on the motorway and a BMW overtook me about 130.
> > Thought I might have to walk a mile+ home.
> The police should have had to give you a lift.
> > Another time in cornwall which was more scary as it was a single road with hedges on either side
> > but he was a local so I guess he knew the chances of an oncoming vehicle was low.
> > But in london your lucky if you can get to 30MPH on most roads
> I dare you to get a lift off me, I'll scare you shitless. If the tyres don't squeal, you didn't go round the corner fast enough.

Maybe you can do that where you live but around here it;s just not possible to much traffic.

> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Or tan attempt to make yuor car difficult to be stolen or moved
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > without the drivers or owners permission.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Handbrakes are very weak, that wouldn't stop anyone. You just put the car onto a tow truck anyway.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Little chance of getting a tow truck for such a thing near me, cars parked to close together.
> >> >> >> >> >> You live in a city? Why?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Same reason most people do, can't really imagine living out in the sticks what do people do all day and night.
> >> >> >> >> Drove 10 miles to what you do. Or not do nightclubs that are for teenagers.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > You mean for those that are to old to live.
> >> >> >> Are you a teenager?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > No, do you think only teenages go to nightclubs.
> >> >> Yes, and those who never grew up. Which are you?
> >> >
> >> > Both depending how I feel.
> >> > I'm not ready for teh local retirement home, not even ready to book my place as you obviously are.
> >> I can be a childish arsehole too, but not with social shit like nightclubs.
> >
> > I prefer them to pubs, but never been tempted by festivals like Glastonbury (outdoor that is)
> That sounds fun with all the mud and scantily clad girls.

I'm not a fan of rain mud etc.. or the toilets or camping.

> > The last one I went to was a couple of weeks ago .
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slvwi-4qkG4
> > they used one of my videos I took at 1:47
> What a load of shite, just people yelling and singing without a tune.

I din;t like most of it. arrived about 9pm and left just before 2am. The band I filmed were the last on it that room there were 3 separate areas yuo could wander round. The bands stopped at 11pm and then it was club night.

> >>> I guess if Miley Cyrus asked you to go to a nightclub you'd say no because you're both too old.
> >> I'd prefer to go somewhere more quiet with her. You can't exactly fuck someone in the middle of a nightclub.
> > It's happened in one I've gone to called TG, but it's not my sort of thing and the music was a bit repetitive
> > and bleepy/techno but the sights and people are interesting.
> Sex in the middle of the nightclub? Cool. What happened? Did anyone stop them?
No the TG has rooms for that sort of thing.
Some have used the toilets in the past.

> >> > Have a nice cup of tea and an iced bun and share a bag or werthers originals.
> >> > Wow what a life.
> >> I'm the exact opposite of that.
> >
> > Not sure what that means
> The things you listed are the last thing I enjoy doing.

I can do both but teh clubs are a good place to meet people and catch up with friends.
I've been going to the gig one since 1988 used to go every saturday until about 2001
when the council made them have a drink licence before then you could take your own drink in,
was a cheap night especially as my flatmate worked in the cloakroom so I got free entry most weeks.
closed at 7:30am sunday morning.

> >> >> >> >> >> > Last two breakins of cars near me where 2 BMWs one had it's steering wheel stolen and the other had the disabled parking badge stolen.
> >> >> >> >> >> What weird things to steal!
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I can understand the parking badge quick and easy, and there's a market for them apparently.
> >> >> >> >> Surely just print one?
> >> >> >> > I thought they had some sort of ID or serial number, anyway doubt the person that stole it had a printer.
> >> >> >> Most people have a printer.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I don't , I rarely need one.
> >> >> You never need to print a returns label etc?
> >> >
> >> > No I do it at work.
> >> > I've only had to do that once in teh last 10 years too.
> >> > I aviod buying faulty or crap stuff that needs sending back.
> >> Then you waste money.
> >
> > I just don't buy a lot of stuff.
> > Looking to buy a big lens,
> I used to have a "Bigma". The largest Sigma telephoto - a zoom from 50mm - 500mm. https://live.staticflickr.com/2164/2238883747_a33bc23b33.jpg

the one I'm thinking of is the 150-600 sigma.

> > a normal photo printer and a 3D printer before then end of the summer.
> I thought about a 3D printer, but realised I wouldn't use it that much. Just now and then to make a replacement part for something. If I really need that, people on Ebay will do it for you for a tenner.

I feel I need a new toy or two , I can use the one at work but they aren't always available for private jobs.

> >> And don't you ever sell anything?
> >
> > Rarely and if I do it's mostly to friends , never found it worth the effort of making a decent post and taking things to the PO.
> Royal Mail collect for 60p now.

I still have to be home though.

> >> >> > Most thefts seems to be amazon boxes left outside
> >> >> Why do Amazon do that? Hermes do too,
> >> >
> >> > Because the people aren't in seems a reasonable reason.
> >> One left a package the other day, he knocked then placed it on the doorstep. Ok, my car was in the driveway, but is that a guarantee I'm in?
> >
> > That is annoying I take a day off or have it delivered to work.
> Yes but if they don't say what day or time.

Most do, if they use a good carrier.
even B&Q tell yuo whether they'll arrive am or PM then phone/txt 30mins before delivery.
Amazon I track.

> > Have you thought about a security box and padlock.
> There is a shed and CCTV. If the idiots won't put it in the shed, I doubt they'd put it in a box.
> >> And why the fuck can't they use the doorbell?! A banging noise could be anything.
> >
> > I haven't got a doorbell.
> Chav.

Why do I need a doorbell I can hear them knock.

> > I'm waiting for a B&Q delivery now, some decking boards at home.
> I get that sort of stuff in my car. Came home with several 5 metres joists on the roof once. And another time an entire large flatpacked shed. Probably illegal to do that, it was substantially larger than the car.

I don't have or need a car.

> >> >> I found a parcel at my front door that had been in the rain for hours.
> >> >
> >> > why not make a box leave it with an unlocked padlock and tell anyone to leave the pacels in and lock it.
> >> > Seems a simple solution to me.
> >> I have a shed with CCTV. And a notice saying to put things in it. Half of them can't be arsed. They want to do their round as fast as possible.
> >
> > That's bad I've not had any problems with amazon but then again don;t have much delivered to home unless it's a large thing.
> I don't think it's any one courier in particular, it just depends on the driver.

Hermes are pretty bad from what I've heard.

> >> >> >> >> Stealing VW badges used to be the in thing.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Seems a newspaper boy was prosecuted for claiming he couldn't go
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> over
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> 16mph on his bicycle!
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Haha! :-D
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> I've done 39mph on my mountain bike, but this was using God's force,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> gravity.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> OY! I saw that! You capitalised god! You edited MY sentence!
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Just checking to see if you are paying attention to detail! :-D
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I wasn't, but my subconscious notices everything.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > You are nearly as bright as me!
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [titter] So what bright things have you done in your life?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > and was she a natural blonde or fake blonde
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Easy to spot, they're too thick to dye their eyebrows.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Not all, some dye
> >> >> >> >> >> Never seen that.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > some shave and use eyebrow pencil.
> >> >> >> >> >> Drawn on eyebrows look ridiculous.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Note when it;s done with style.
> >> >> >> >> No, because they never look 3D like hairs.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > They aren't meant to, I'm thinking egyptian style
> >> >> >> Religious claptrap.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > what has religion got to do with it ?
> >> >> That's why they did it in Egypt.
> >> >
> >> > So, it;s not done today for that reason.
> >> > People men and women used to wear makeup and perfumes so they couldn't smell
> >> > the stench of the cities or see the sores on their person.
> >> So not needed nowadays.
> >
> > I do prefer certain styles , I guess everyone does.
> I prefer the natural style.

Very rare most wear makup, I don;t like tans even natural tans, I don't like the orange look either.

> >> >> >> >> >> > I've know some to wear coloured cotact
> >> >> >> >> >> > lenes, one in particular has green cats eye contacts.
> >> >> >> >> >> Those can be nice. Still don't look quite right though.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> They look fucking stupid. It's like painting your car a different colour and forgetting one door.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > depends on the effect you want I guess.
> >> >> >> >> >> Avoiding looking like a fake would be a desire surely?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Fake what exactly, I prefer the more creative types when it comes to looks.
> >> >> >> >> I prefer someone who's naturally good looking without having to add it.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Mmmmm Miley Cyrus!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > She wears quite a bit of makeup and has lots of tattoes that's hardly natrual.
> >> >> >> She'd look amazing without any of that.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So why does she do it.
> >> >> Because she's an idiot.
> >> >
> >> > So you find iodiots attractive.
> >> Intelligence does not change someone's looks. Anyway she has a fucking good voice.
> >
> > I'm not saying I'd kick her out of my kitchen ;-)
> How about the bedroom?

first things first ;-)

> > Just not my preferred type.
> Who is your ideal woman?

I don;t really have one in particular, that's the thing about clubs.

> >> >> >> > I prefer the more siouxsie sioux style and her music too.
> >> >> >> I don't like her nose.
> >> >> >> >> >> Why not? Eating doesn't require much brainpower, might aswell get things done at the same time.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I do my own things, students need to learn discipline too. When we are open and when closed.
> >> >> >> >> Most places don't shut for lunch now, even my pharmacist. It's not productive.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > We don't shut for lunch open from 9-6 term time for labs.
> >> >> >> This whole conversation was about students interrupting your lunchbreak.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yes. I have a lunch break just like I have a break to have a shit..
> >> >>
> >> >> Why? Just have a break whenever it's quiet.
> >> > Because sometimes it;s not quiet from 9am to 6pm.
> >> > Some of our classes are of 600 , we have to split them up throught the day.
> >> >
> >> >> > There are two other technicians in the labs, and usually the lecturer and one or two demostrators sometimes more.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Do you let students ask for help while you take a dump.
> >> >> That is not as interruptible as eating.
> >> >
> >> > They can learn to wait it''s part of their training for the real world.
> >> > Eevn if they only end up in a burger bar they might be open from 6am to midnight but staff are still allowed breaks
> >> A lot of jobs don't give you breaks.
> >
> > Most do, unless you have to take a job that doesn't or zero hour contracts.
> They tend to get abused. I know the woman who works as a secretary at the local police station. 12 hours, no break. If she made a complaint they'd probably arrest her.

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