mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 1:50:43 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:30:19 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/1/2023 4:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11ÃÃ�€ ’ƒÂ¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢â€šÂ¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48ÃÃ�€ ’ƒÂ¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢â€šÂ¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time does not end at all.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Time does not end at all then
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time has no beginning at all.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> God wasn't always there...
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Fair enough?
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Big Bang.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> God wasn't always there...
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> and neither were you.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>> How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> forever and a day.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> :^D
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> the universe had plenty of time to figure out
> > > > > > >>> how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> The universe needed a God to create it.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> [...]
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> God was before the universe, right?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > First a universe
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > God came in/evolved afterwards
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > God created the heavens and the earth....In the Beginning.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "In"
> > > > > > > The operative word is "in"!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Definition of the word...In:
> > > > > > > expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed
> > > > > > > or surrounded by something else.
> > > > > > > https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Code:
> > > > > > > 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > in:
> > > > > > > to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is dis chicken business????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where did the universe come from?
> > > > > Are you refering to the universe you're "In"? enclosed IN. or the
> > > > > universe it is surrounded by IN????
> > > > >
> > > > > To be clear, you're In a universe that is an enclosure of the SPACE
> > > > > around it.
> > > >
> > > > What is your proof of that?
> > > > The universe is in the hypersphere's boundary not another universe.
> > >
> > > The PROOF is in the definition of the word..."In".
> > >
> > > **** Definition of the word...In:
> > > **** expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be
> > > enclosed
> > > **** or surrounded by something else.
> > > **** https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
> > >
> > > YOU yourself uses the word "In"!...surrounded by something else.
> > >
> > > Are you not aware of what you speak????
> > >
> > >
> > So, when you write: The universe is *in* the hypersphere's boundary...
> >
> >
> > you are sayin: The universe hypersphere's boundary is enclosed or
> > surrounded by something else.
>
> Not at all. The hypersphere is the final dimension and is
> not in any higher... no more physical orientation exists beyond it.
> There is only one universe measured...
>
> Mitchell Raemsch
> >
> >
> > Don't use the word...."In".

Maybe you don't understand the word...."boundary".

You need to see beyond the boundary, beyond the borderline...beyond the
horizon.

There you will find...something else.

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