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From: chris.m....@gmail.com (Chris M. Thomasson)
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Subject: Re: Time does not end...
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2023 12:33:20 -0800
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 by: Chris M. Thomasson - Sun, 5 Nov 2023 20:33 UTC

On 11/5/2023 11:06 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 1:50:43 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:30:19 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/1/2023 4:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11ÃÃ�€ ’ƒÂ¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢â€šÂ¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48ÃÃ�€ ’ƒÂ¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢â€šÂ¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time does not end at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Time does not end at all then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time has no beginning at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God wasn't always there...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fair enough?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Big Bang.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God wasn't always there...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and neither were you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> forever and a day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> :^D
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the universe had plenty of time to figure out
>>>>>>>>>> how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The universe needed a God to create it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> God was before the universe, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First a universe
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> God came in/evolved afterwards
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> God created the heavens and the earth....In the Beginning.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "In"
>>>>>>>> The operative word is "in"!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Definition of the word...In:
>>>>>>>> expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed
>>>>>>>> or surrounded by something else.
>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Code:
>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in:
>>>>>>>> to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is dis chicken business????
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where did the universe come from?
>>>>>> Are you refering to the universe you're "In"? enclosed IN. or the
>>>>>> universe it is surrounded by IN????
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To be clear, you're In a universe that is an enclosure of the SPACE
>>>>>> around it.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is your proof of that?
>>>>> The universe is in the hypersphere's boundary not another universe.
>>>>
>>>> The PROOF is in the definition of the word..."In".
>>>>
>>>> **** Definition of the word...In:
>>>> **** expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be
>>>> enclosed
>>>> **** or surrounded by something else.
>>>> **** https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
>>>>
>>>> YOU yourself uses the word "In"!...surrounded by something else.
>>>>
>>>> Are you not aware of what you speak????
>>>>
>>>>
>>> So, when you write: The universe is *in* the hypersphere's boundary...
>>>
>>>
>>> you are sayin: The universe hypersphere's boundary is enclosed or
>>> surrounded by something else.
>>
>> Not at all. The hypersphere is the final dimension and is
>> not in any higher... no more physical orientation exists beyond it.
>> There is only one universe measured...
>>
>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't use the word...."In".
>
> Maybe you don't understand the word...."boundary".
>
> You need to see beyond the boundary, beyond the borderline...beyond the
> horizon.

Check out the complixity of the border of the Mandelbrot set.

>
> There you will find...something else.
>
>
>

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