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Re: Seeking advice on making short films.

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 by: David Brooks - Fri, 18 Nov 2022 14:33 UTC

On 18/11/2022 01:53, Magani wrote:
> On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 6:17:11 am UTC+10, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 17/11/2022 19:56, David Brooks wrote:
>>> On 17/11/2022 00:05, Magani wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 11:41:27 pm UTC+10, Whisky-dave wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 01:46:16 UTC, geoff wrote:
>>>>>> On 16/11/2022 11:43 am, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15/11/2022 20:59, geoff wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 16/11/2022 1:37 am, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 15/11/2022 01:31, geoff wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 15/11/2022 6:17 am, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/11/2022 11:47, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>>>>>>> short
>>>>>>>>>>>>> films from integrating numerous short video clips which they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have filmed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of mine are like that. Are you asking about transitions?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking along the lines of making a 'story' - maybe joining
>>>>>>>>>>> together clips of the various birdlife I've seen on the canals.
>>>>>>>>>>> I guess you are right in thinking about the transitions, from
>>>>>>>>>>> one clip
>>>>>>>>>>> to another, and then, perhaps, adding music or a commentary to
>>>>>>>>>>> a few
>>>>>>>>>>> minutes of video.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is how videos and films are usually made. Google video editing
>>>>>>>>>> software.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Hundreds of video editing applications out there. Have been
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> decades. Some paid for, some free. Generally you get what you pay
>>>>>>>>>> for, and pay for what what you need.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have used Vegas Pro for since version 3. It is now up to V20, and
>>>>>>>>>> can 'easily' do things like this:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/620689040/posts/pfbid026QNXWzjMwZ2r16jSdc8nHfmWGJrKSaWZR3FopeM49JkAcbay3LbQWgaKF5JUQh5El/?_rdc=1&_rdr
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> geoff
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for your post 'geoff'. 🙂
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've looked here:-
>>>>>>>>> https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/gb/vegas-pro/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It seems like 'the bees knees' as the expression goes!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I also looked here:-
>>>>>>>>> https://www.creativebloq.com/features/best-video-editing-software-for-designers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lots for me to think about!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The link you provided rather blew me away. Fascinating. I've shared
>>>>>>>>> it on the Timeline of a man ('G') I met this time last week - at the
>>>>>>>>> memorial 'party' for my late brother-in-law, who died in January
>>>>>>>>> nearly two years ago, aged 89.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 'G' is just 50 - married to the daughter of my BIL's cousin.
>>>>>>>>> Complicated. I'd met the cousin before, and her daughter, but not
>>>>>>>>> 'G'!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 'G' started out as a musician but was somehow brow-beaten into
>>>>>>>>> learning a trade and who now owns his own engineering business. He
>>>>>>>>> showed me a
>>>>>>>>> video clip of him playing the drums recently - he is pretty
>>>>>>>>> fantastic!
>>>>>>>>> I'm sure he'd like nothing more than reverting to becoming a
>>>>>>>>> musician
>>>>>>>>> once again! 😉
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Magix Movie Studio ( formerly Sony Vegas Movie Studio) is it's little
>>>>>>>> brother.
>>>>>>>> https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> geoff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, BUT .......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "You need the following operating systems: Windows 11 | Windows 10"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Read more:
>>>>>>> https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/specifications/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>> User of Apple devices since 2009!
>>>>>> Sad for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However there are Apple-compatible equivalents from other companies.
>>>>> iMovie isn;t too bad for a free product .
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't think I'd want to pay £250 for final cut pro.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure what else there is but I wouldn't want a sunscribtion option
>>>>> either.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> geoff
>>>>
>>>> I've dabbled in a couple recently to put together a couple of clips
>>>> from a recent trip so I can show the kids/grandkids what we're
>>>> spending their inheritance on.
>>>>
>>>> I've tried both Kdenlive and DaVinci Resolve - both free and both
>>>> available for Win, Apple and Linux. I looked at Kdenlive after I'd
>>>> used DeVinci Resolve and while it looks good, I didn't see any reason
>>>> to ditch Resolve.
>>>>
>>>> Kdenlive - https://kdenlive.org/en/download/
>>>> DaVinci Resolve 18 -
>>>> https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/au/products/davinciresolve/
>>>>
>>>> The following clips were made on DeVinci Resolve. The amount of stuff
>>>> you get for $/£/€0.00 I thought was amazing. More than I'll ever use.
>>>> The learning curve was steep-ish but I think I managed to get there.
>>>>
>>>> Without wanting to get back into smartphones vs 'real' cameras, these
>>>> were shot on a Samsung S21 Ultra - the 1st proving the IP68
>>>> waterproofing :-) - attached to a DJI Mobile 3 gyro stabiliser.
>>>>
>>>> 1st clip is really just one continuous shot, but put through DeVinci
>>>> Resolve to shrink it to a suitable size for YouTube; the 2nd is the
>>>> culmination of a 20 minute video cut to leave out most of the boring
>>>> 'travel' bits to/from the ship. The stabiliser made it a *LOT*
>>>> smoother than it really was
>>>> .
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3ITIzE7n4
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=184OELYXsmY
>>>>
>>>> Elderly Australian behaving badly.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Magani
>>>
>>> Thank you so very much for this contribution, Magani!
>>>
>>> I watched and enjoyed both of your video clips. :-D
>>>
>>> I've also installed Resolve ready to experiment on a rainy day during
>>> the winter!
>>>
>>> In return, you may enjoy this YT video about a trip which I never made
>>> in nearly 40 years of narrowboating!

>> Missing link! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdYmqKjdEns <---- *HAS SUB-TITLES*!
>>
>> Sorry about that!
>
> Crossing the Wash looks 'interesting'. I think I'd like a bit more boat under me for open seas. :-)
>
> Love 'Skippy' on the tiller!
>
> Thanks for that, David. A few memories there as we dropped my Dad off in Boston for a narrowboat cruise a few years back. I think he ended up somewhere near Sheffield? I don't know if the company still exists, but it had a narrowboat plus butty and looked very comfortable.
>
> Cheers,
> Magani.

You are most welcome, Magani.

Boston seems a rather odd-ball place to START a
narrowboat cruise, but there's no telling with some folk!
I had a cousin who lived her whole life in Sheffield and she made me
promise that I would /never/ take my narrowboat into the city centre. I
kept my promise - instead, she and her husband came to visit us here:-
https://bugsworthbasin.org (just a hop and skip over the Pennines!)

--
David

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