On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 10:59:29 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 4/22/2022 11:33 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 4/22/2022 5:51 PM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 9:55:48 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 4/22/2022 7:44 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>> On 4/21/2022 9:45 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 21:10:35 -0500, AMuzi
>>>>>> <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/21/2022 7:05 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 14:09:44 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>>> <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2022 6:59 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One point that never seems to be addressed is "why?".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've been stopped by police while in an automobile and
>>>>>>>>>> I didn't attack
>>>>>>>>>> the policeman or try to run away and I've known quite
>>>>>>>>>> a number of
>>>>>>>>>> others who have been stopped by the Cops and didn't
>>>>>>>>>> attack the officer
>>>>>>>>>> or try to run away.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But in nearly all cases of a police killing it seems,
>>>>>>>>>> at least from
>>>>>>>>>> what one "reads in the Newspaper" the victim did just
>>>>>>>>>> that, Either
>>>>>>>>>> tried to run away or attacked the Officer. Why?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll repeat a tale I've told before. Our suburban
>>>>>>>>> village has a
>>>>>>>>> reputation as a speed trap - IOW, that they actually
>>>>>>>>> enforce the
>>>>>>>>> state-mandated 25 mph zones in the village center.
>>>>>>>>> That's more than fine
>>>>>>>>> by me. (Actually, they don't ticket for 29 mph, but 30
>>>>>>>>> or more may get
>>>>>>>>> you stopped.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The newspaper's "Police Report" often lists guys
>>>>>>>>> arrested here for
>>>>>>>>> controlled substances, outstanding warrants, etc. after
>>>>>>>>> being stopped
>>>>>>>>> here for speeding, running a red light, no lights, etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So I asked a cop friend "If a guy with an outstanding
>>>>>>>>> warrant has drugs
>>>>>>>>> in his car, why wouldn't he drive super carefully?"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> His answer: "They're not Einsteins, Frank."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's why.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So rather then "headlines" saying "Cop Shoots Man" it
>>>>>>>> should read,
>>>>>>>> "Known Felon Shot While Attempting to Flee Arrest".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And rather then "Black Lives Matter" the battle cry
>>>>>>>> should be "Black
>>>>>>>> Criminals Matter!"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2022/04/21/eric-adams-is-right-blm-costs-black-lives/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If one looks at the facts, rather then the "Lurid" News
>>>>>> then one quite
>>>>>> often develops a substantially different viewpoint then
>>>>>> what seems to
>>>>>> be popular.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The new mayor deserves some credit for pointing out that
>>>>> annoying truth.
>>>>>
>>>> Apologies for replying to my own reply but the link above
>>>> regards the mayor's comments yesterday 21 April. Update:
>>>>
>>>> https://nypost.com/2022/04/21/blms-hawk-newsome-blames-mayor-eric-adams-for-nyc-war-zone/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Some pathetic souls are so invested in screaming about
>>>> 'racism' in order to gin up discord, even where it's
>>>> ridiculously absent, just cannot drop that weapon.
>>>>
>>>> side note-
>>>>
>>>> Waiting for the pearl-clutching 'fact check' organizations
>>>> to cover Mr Newsome's description of Mayor Adams as 'n---r'
>>>> and 'a white man in blackface, and a very conservative white
>>>> man at that'.
>>
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Post
>>> "The New York Post (NY Post) is a conservative daily tabloid newspaper
>>> published in New York City. The Post also operates NYPost.com, the
>>> celebrity gossip site PageSix.com, and the entertainment site
>>> Decider.com.
>>>
>>> It was established in 1801 by Federalist and Founding Father Alexander
>>> Hamilton, and became a respected broadsheet in the 19th century under
>>> the name New York Evening Post.[9] Its most famous 19th-century editor
>>> was William Cullen Bryant. In the mid-20th century, the paper was
>>> owned by Dorothy Schiff, a devoted liberal, who developed its tabloid
>>> format. In 1976, Rupert Murdoch bought the Post for US$30.5 million.
>>> Since 1993, the Post has been owned by Murdoch's News Corp. Its
>>> distribution ranked 4th in the US in 2019."
>>>
>>> Andy, if you are relying on the New York Post for your source, you
>>> need some help.  Tommy boy uses similar sources for his support.  If
>>> you click on the Wikipedia link for the New York Post, you will be
>>> taken to a website that shows one of the Post's papers.  It says
>>> "Bezos Exposes Pecker".  With a picture of Jeff Bezos and his
>>> girlfriend or wife.  Fully clothed of course.  Tell us Andy, does the
>>> Wisconsin State Journal run headlines like that on its front page?
>>> Your main state newspaper.  The NY Post is very comparable to Fox News
>>> or Newsmax or One America News or similar places.
>>>
>>> Now, I am not saying the black mayor of New York City, Eric Adams, and
>>> the black BLM founder/participant, Hawk Newsome, did not have a
>>> disagreement and did not call each other names.  I am sure they did
>>> have a divergence.  I am sure the founders and participants of the KKK
>>> disagreed on many matters too.  But they still held to their core
>>> principles.
>>>
>>
>> I saw Mr Newsome's interview in his own words (except the bleep) it on
>> the radio early on WOR and later on WABC.
>>
>> Post has convenient non-paywall web links.
>>
>> You're welcome in that your only criticism is that you dislike the Post.
>> I assume you share with me utter contempt for Mr Newsome and BLM generally.
>
>Let me agree with Mr. Muzi on part of this. I suppose most news outlets
>have some editorial slant one way or other. (I've seen articles rating
>that slant for dozens of news sources - although I'm sure those offended
>by the ratings will call "bias!") And I do think the Post is not
>particularly respectable as a source.
>
>However, not everything in the Post is wrong. Similarly, if a biased and
>deluded maniac says "The sun is rising!" the sun may still be rising.

But what is "Bias"? Is it, in some manner, a definitive measure of
right and wrong? Or a matter of what a large number of people consider
right and wrong, at this moment in time?

Slavery, for example. A perfectly legal and accepted practice from
earliest human history until `about` the 1800's, and now regarded with
horror.
--
Cheers,

John B.