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Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 1 Hour 4 Minutes ago by: Guy Acheson

This thread has gone on way...way...way...tooooooo long. I am tagging it as abuse. Gentlemen...grow up.

Re: NTSB link that works?

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Posted: 1 Hour 26 Minutes ago by: Dee

To review the most detailed evidence (not just the final summary report) open the Docket: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID1258 where the total contents are displayed for each of the input reports including video, photos, etc. Phyl

Re: NTSB link that works?

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Posted: 1 Hour 46 Minutes ago by: kinsell

https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/101258/pdf

Re: NTSB link that works?

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Posted: 2 Hours 56 Minutes ago by: Tony

You typically have to download the .pdf and then change the filename. I have never taken the time to report this problem...

Club looking for a couple of used Oudie IGCs

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Posted: 5 Hours 14 Minutes ago by: kirk.stant

Anyone moving from the Oudie IGC to Oudie N (or moving to a different map system)? My club is looking at standardizing on the Oudie IGC for our single seat XC gliders. Kirk SLSA

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 19 Hours 27 Minutes ago by: 2G

I clearly indicated that Jon used the words "your club's revenue", so if Not So Purist Bobby has a beef he should have read Jon's post more accurately, or at least read it. Tom

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 23 Hours 19 Minutes ago by: Dan Marotta

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Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 1 Day ago by: 2G

Hey Not So Purist Bobby, here are your OWN words. You use the words "my revenue" whereas Jon clearly stated "your club's revenue": Eric, I have flown with MG pilots, there is more to MG's than convenience, and you still ignore the opinio

FS: Lark IS-28B2 Needs Work $2,000

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Posted: 1 Day 7 Hours ago by: Kayla Hanke

For Sale 1978, 2 seater ,Lark IS-28B2 with open trailer Needs work Elevator(s) had corrosion but have replacement parts from another Lark. Open trailer will need new tires to transport. Photos: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xl1dobk

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 1 Day 16 Hours ago by: RW

Congratulations to US 2022 18m Nationals winners! 1 Sean Fidler 2 Sean Murphy 3 Robin Clark Ryszard Krolikowski

Re: ADSB data on now viewable on the OGN (thread)

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Posted: 2 Days 19 Hours ago by: Philip Lee

I moved some of my OGN/python scripts to AWS without issue couple of years ago. Costs about $10/mo. On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 10:19:12 AM UTC-7, davis.c...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Testing a theory (thread)

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Posted: 2 Days 23 Hours ago by: kinsell

You can update or do a new install without losing the mail history. I've moved across computers and even different operating systems. Not sure what you're trying to accomplish though. All threads start out as unread, so if you don't se

Re: Para-Phernalia Softie Mini-Wedge Parachute for sale (thread)

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Posted: 2 Days 23 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Please let me know how you would like the funds sent. This is for my wife also a great Purist, Eileen would like to have it. Old Bob, The Purist

Re: Para-Phernalia Softie Mini-Wedge Parachute for sale (thread)

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Posted: 2 Days 23 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

I will take it, Old Bob, The Purist

Re: Testing a theory (thread)

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Posted: 2 Days 23 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

I'm using 91.8.1 (64-bit).  I would install the latest or reinstall the current, but I'm afraid of losing my email history.  Suggestions? Dan 5J On 5/19/22 14:28, Eric Greenwell wrote:

Re: Testing a theory (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days ago by: Eric Greenwell

I'm using Thunderbird 91.9.0 (64-bit) on Windows 10, and it doesn't show Ignored threads. Eric On 5/19/2022 9:49 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:

Re: Testing a theory (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 1 Hour ago by: Martin Gregorie

Be nice and raise a bug report for Thunderbird so they know they screwed up and should fix it.

Re: Para-Phernalia Softie Mini-Wedge Parachute for sale (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 2 Hours ago by: Mike Carris

Guessing he means the 180 lb max weight version not the 240 lb .

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 3 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Mr. Fitch, I certainly hope that you are enjoying the trip to Alaska and I hope that the boat doesn't develop a leak! You have once again skirted the issue that I stated that the motorglider was a threat to my revenue. I asked you to produ

Re: Testing a theory (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 4 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

Looks like I'll need to do a daily delete of all threads... Dan 5J On 5/19/22 10:42, Dan Marotta wrote:

Testing a theory

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Posted: 3 Days 4 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

The latest updates to Thunderbird are such that unread threads are still shown.  So, I selected all 1,165 of them and pressed the delete key.  Let's see if they come back or if I get a pleasantly sparse display.

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 5 Hours ago by: jfitch

Bob, I neither like nor dislike you, in fact I don’t think about you much at all. Your first post in this thread (one of many similar ones) may have been humorous, as was my first response. But by the third one you had descended into the

Re: Anyone use the Air Avionic ACD-57 to control Trig TT22 w/ TN72 (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 6 Hours ago by: Kevin Shultz

Thank you Richard and Dave for the confirmation and sharing your experience - much appreciated! This will help optimize the panel. I prefer the interface, not just for the transponder, but also for the radio. The radio seems pretty strai

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 19 Hours ago by: 2G

You're resorting to your racist comments again, Not So Purist Bobby.

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 22 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Uncle Tom, you are my favorite relative! Old Bob, The Purist

Re: Anyone use the Air Avionic ACD-57 to control Trig TT22 w/ TN72 (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 23 Hours ago by: Dave Springford

Kevin, I have the ACD connected to my TT22/TN72 setup and was able to configure everything within the ACD menus. Glider shows up on flightradar24 with the correct registration. As well as the Trig SW license, you also need a harness from

Re: Used LX9070 System for Sale (thread)

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Posted: 4 Days ago by: Paul Remde

SOLD On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 4:15:42 PM UTC-5, Paul Remde wrote:

Re: Slice & Dice Glider Accidents Data (thread)

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Posted: 4 Days 2 Hours ago by: IdoMillet

Added a 'Phase' column and a couple of displays focusing on flight phase (Landing, Takeoff, etc.). Reminder: these displays are interactive, so you can Slice & Dice, Drill-Down, Filter, and create your own displays: https://www.milletsoft

Re: ADSB data on now viewable on the OGN (thread)

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Posted: 4 Days 3 Hours ago by: Davis Chappins

https://i.imgur.com/808hJkM.png Last Saturday had about 50 ADSB gliders being forwarded to the OGN, which is cool. This python script continues to run on my pi at home. If anyone knows of a more professional hosting, feel free to reach out

Re: On this date, 2010. (thread)

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Posted: 4 Days 4 Hours ago by: Jim N

Thanks for clearing that up. It seems that people are now abbreviating things, like that, expecting everybody to understand what it means.

Re: On this date, 2010. (thread)

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Posted: 4 Days 4 Hours ago by: John_DeRosa_OHM_Ω_

For those that might have been confused by Walt's reference to Romanians and a Bolivian airport identifier, the acronym SLGP in reality stands for the popular Seminole Lake Glider Port. The ownership of SLGP has an interesting history wh

Re: Para-Phernalia Softie Mini-Wedge Parachute for sale (thread)

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Posted: 4 Days 10 Hours ago by: stephen.s...@gmail.c

Para-Phernalia makes a Mini and a Wedge, but not a Mini-Wedge. Which is it?

Re: Blanik L-13

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Posted: 4 Days 13 Hours ago by: Walter Wissmann

I have checked my wing according to AI MB No. L13/112a. and I have the exact rivet pattern like in the reinforced wing .They have steel rivets in the middle row and aluminium rivets in the rows beside.And they are spaced apart just a bit

Re: Blanik L-13. Frank In the meantime I found the Ad's in question

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Posted: 4 Days 14 Hours ago by: Walter Wissmann

Re: Blanik L-13

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Posted: 4 Days 14 Hours ago by: Walter Wissmann

Re: Discus 2ax (thread)

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Posted: 4 Days 15 Hours ago by: ASM

Re: Anyone use the Air Avionic ACD-57 to control Trig TT22 w/ TN72 (thread)

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Posted: 4 Days 19 Hours ago by: Richard Pfiffner

Kevin I have sold many ADC 57 to control the TT22/TN72 units and to control the TY91 units. The bonus is you save space and get a TSO altimeter also. I also recommend an airspeed switch. http://www.craggyaero.com/acd_altimeter.htm Al

Anyone use the Air Avionic ACD-57 to control Trig TT22 w/ TN72 SIL 3?

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Posted: 4 Days 22 Hours ago by: Kevin Shultz

Has anyone tried to use the Air Avionic ACD-57 with Trig TT 22 SW license to configure and control the Trig TT22 transponder with a Trig TN72 Global Positioning Unit connected (and not using a Trig TC20 controlling unit)? If so, were you

Used LX9070 System for Sale

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Posted: 4 Days 23 Hours ago by: Paul Remde

SALE - Used LXNAV LX9070 with V8 variometer & AHRS & Wi-Fi - I'm selling this system for a customer who just purchased a new LX9070 system. - LX9070, SN: 08988 (6XO), Gen 3 (not compatible with HAWK), purchased from Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

Re: Pawnee recovering (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Stuart, I have recovered Pawnee's and it is a big job, but not impossible. The fabric life is dependent on how well the plane has been taken care of, meaning kept out of the elements and chemical exposure. Your bigger concerns should be th

Re: Para-Phernalia Softie Mini-Wedge Parachute for sale (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days ago by: Mark Mocho

When was it manufactured?

Re: Pawnee recovering (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 3 Hours ago by: Charles Longley

I've seen older cover on Pawnee's. It all depends on it's life for the last 28 years. Just been towing and stored in a hangar? It'll probably be OK. Ag airplane most of that time, stored outside? Probably needs a rebuild. Charlie

Pawnee recovering

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Posted: 5 Days 3 Hours ago by: Stuart Venters

What is this group's opinion on how often a Pawnee should be recovered and where to get it done. We have one with 28 years on the fabric. Fabric is still sound, but we found corrosion in the tail and are concerned that the airframe shou

Re: Question for PW-6 owners (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 4 Hours ago by: Carl Johnson

A good question, but there wasn't anything wrong with the spring. This issue is that if you're reaching into the fuselage and operating the fitting by feel then it's easy to inadvertently push the sleeve in the wrong direction after you de

Para-Phernalia Softie Mini-Wedge Parachute for sale

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Posted: 5 Days 4 Hours ago by: Charles Dutch

I purchased it used in 2020. I used it less than one season. Last packed in 02/2021. Packer commented on it's excellent condition. I added the custom sheepskin pad - used it a few times before my soaring career ended. Nylon carry/storage b

Re: Question for PW-6 owners (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 8 Hours ago by: mike maskell

Just wondering if the small spring beneath the button was perhaps either missing or not quite extended enough which might have allowed the button to be more recessed in the hole. But glad you have Jerzy working with you...he was instrumen

Re: On this date, 2010. (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 8 Hours ago by: waltco...@aol.com

Last property I sold was done jointly with my brother, Lawyer Boy. It was my job to find the buyer and sell him, close him and get the deal moving forward at which time I was to notify my brother with the pertinent information. I did so

Re: Discus 2ax (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 8 Hours ago by: Glenn Betzoldt

My email discus2aw - gmail.com contact me. Glenn

Re: Discus 2ax (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 16 Hours ago by: ASM

Maybe. I would like to try it for size first.

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 16 Hours ago by: Ron Gleason

When I read Nick's post my first thought 'Mocho highjacked Nick's identification'

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 17 Hours ago by: Mark Mocho

Nick- And how does Betsy feel about your preference? I assume she doesn't check RAS. At least you better hope she doesn't.

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 17 Hours ago by: 2G

No, she knows she screwed up - I relived this in the hopes that a little instruction to other crew can circumvent a similar experience. It could have been worse: she could have cut a corner at a gas station! Tom

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 20 Hours ago by: Nicholas Kennedy

Round Black Hot Nick T

Re: On this date, 2010. (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 21 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Excellent question, could be the buy of the year. but would you be able to shake hands with the said owner? I have sold a few properties in the past and always was there for the closing. Could this in fact be one of those internet sales wh

Re: Question for PW-6 owners (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days ago by: Carl Johnson

Hi all, We did manage to locate a spare push button from an old fitting so we're all set now. Jerzy is checking into the availability of this part from Poland, and given how easily this happened I think we're going to order a few spares. L

On this date, 2010.

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Posted: 6 Days 2 Hours ago by: waltco...@aol.com

If my memory serves me correctly and I don't remember the last time it did not, SLGP officially was in the hands of the folks from the land of Vlad the Impaler and Zamfir, Master of the Pan Flute. The previous owners were out of the pictu

Re: Discus 2ax (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 2 Hours ago by: andy l

That reply is true of the Ventus 2a/b, but the Discus 2 had the thinner tailplane from the start.

Re: Discus 2ax (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 3 Hours ago by: GliderCZ

I believe the fuselage changed significantly from the first V2 to the V2c. Also, early V2 had 4-inch main gear wheel and mechanical brake. Wings and horizontal stab changed fromV2c to V2cx (including addition of more conventional winglet

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 3 Hours ago by: Herbert Kilian

Tsk, tsk, tsk Tom! Knocking your retrieve crew/wife is never a good idea.

Re: Other Soaring Discussion Groups Ex-USA? (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 4 Hours ago by: david.s....@gmail.co

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gliding/ Activity is rather low, but I don't recall seeing outright garbage getting posted. There are paid advertisements mixed in, but not too many. Most often just one toward the top. Cheers, ...david On

Re: Status and future of glideport.aero? (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 6 Hours ago by: kinsell

Oh contraire. When I installed my Core 5-6 years ago, the instructions said to use the serial number, but the ICAO code was another option. You can even make up your own random number if you want. Not a great idea, but it works. If y

Re: Discus 2ax (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 8 Hours ago by: Glenn Betzoldt

ASM are you looking for a Tricked-out D2a in the USA?

Re: Question for PW-6 owners (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 8 Hours ago by: mike maskell

We own 2 PW-6's and have not had that problem yet. We also have had other gliders in our club, both private and club owned, that have the same connector and I have never heard of an issues. I do have spare parts from a damaged Krosno (KR

Re: Discus 2ax (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 11 Hours ago by: Chris Runeckles

Hi Mathew I cannot help with the Discus 2cx designation, if there is such an animal? But the V2 and V2CX have identical fuselages and crash protection. They are different from the V1a,b,c with a 5" wheel, larger cockpit and better side

Re: Status and future of glideport.aero? (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 16 Hours ago by: Ramy

I forgot about the option to use flarm serial number instead of Mode S code.. I didn’t think anyone doing so. Only make sense when a portable is used in multiple gliders. Also I think this only works with Mode C transponders. I am pretty

Re: Other Soaring Discussion Groups Ex-USA? (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 16 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

What a country are you in? There are some country and Euro groups. Maybe ask at the club where you fly?

Re: Discus 2ax (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 17 Hours ago by: Matthew Scutter

Boy-racers paint the 'x' on their self-designated tricked-out Discus 2's which invariably feature the Maughmer winglets. I painted the 'x' myself on my Maughmer-equipped Discus 2a, just a few SN's before the linked Discus 2a'x' so I could

Re: Discus 2ax (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 20 Hours ago by: Ash

Mr. Scutter may be correct. However, there's some info to suggest that the Ventus2ax is an "x" because it has Maughmer winglets, perhaps indicating that a Discus2ax is one with such winglets. http://www.mandhsoaring.com/why%20winglets/wl

Re: Discus 2ax (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 20 Hours ago by: ASM

https://www.segelflug.de/osclass/index.php?page=item&id=62495 That’s not what the owner of this glider says. If you look at the ad he is stating Discus 2ax.

Re: Discus 2ax (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 21 Hours ago by: Matthew Scutter

The 'x' means you painted an 'x' after the 'a'. That's it. There is no such formal designation or difference in production versions.

Re: Discus 2ax (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 21 Hours ago by: Hank Nixon

Not completely sure but the "x" ships got a thinner horizontal tail and improved joint between the horizontal and vertical tails. Possibly this is a later production version with the thinner horizontal, or an earlier one converted. UH

Re: Question for PW-6 owners (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 21 Hours ago by: Mike

Carl, I may have some PW-5 connectors. Send me a photo. Unfortunately I’m heading away for two weeks tomorrow morning and won’t be able to check until then. mhutnick ate ptd dot net Best Mike

Re: Other Soaring Discussion Groups Ex-USA? (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 21 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Ash, I thing that there is a RAS NEO, or something like that that has been created to limit the trolling by the motorglider guys. It has the ability to post pictures and is a moderated group that can control content, kind of a WOKE approac

Re: Status and future of glideport.aero? (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 21 Hours ago by: kinsell

Davis told me that he relays any ADS-B signal squawking 1202. Also Mode S transponders that can be located with MLAT (on the ADS-B Exchange). Obviously a U.S. specific solution. Many PF's are set up to use the flarm serial number inste

Discus 2ax

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Posted: 6 Days 23 Hours ago by: ASM

Does someone know what Discus 2ax is? I found quite a bit of information about Ventus 2ax/bx, but I can’t to find anything related to Discus 2ax. I appreciate any info related to the subject. Regards .

Other Soaring Discussion Groups Ex-USA?

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Posted: 7 Days ago by: Ash

Can anyone suggest alternative soaring-related discussion groups that are not so US-centric as RAS and not so easily hijacked by a few blog trolls? There must be some that are comprehensive yet represent a more global demographic. With that

Question for PW-6 owners

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Posted: 7 Days 1 Hour ago by: Carl Johnson

During assembly of one of our PW-6's we had a problem with one of the aileron quick-disconnect joints. There's a knurled sleeve that holds a push button captive in a keyhole shaped slot. This sleeve was inadvertently extended to the point

Re: Status and future of glideport.aero? (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 3 Hours ago by: Ramy

I believe this is done automatically by Davis integration. If you registered your flarm on OGN, OGN already has your Mode S code which is used to sync up with ADS-B targets. Ramy On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 10:02:30 PM UTC-7, kinsell wrot

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 4 Hours ago by: 2G

Defamation is still defamation regardless of whether the motive is for personal gain or for sport. Tom

ISO Portable Powerflarm or ADSB Stratus

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Posted: 7 Days 7 Hours ago by: Ernesto Camaraza

Good Morning, Hope everyone is doing well. If you have a portable Flarm or ADSB Stratus that you are not using, please call me. Best Regards, Ernesto 2TK (305) 301-9171

Re: rising-air.slack.com (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 7 Hours ago by: whir

It's not really mine. As I've tried to convey in some of my messaging, I'd like to share or hand over admin of this when it gets going well. Right now, early as it is, I'm the only admin, and that's not good for a few reasons. Every messa

Re: Today is Friday the 13th and you know what that means... (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 3 Hours ago by: waltco...@aol.com

If I recall correctly and I usually do, Loki in Norse mythology was a trickster who had the ability to change his shape and sex. Old Loki was ahead of his time, today that is common I understand. (not really, you can't change your sex,

Re: Today is Friday the 13th and you know what that means... (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 8 Hours ago by: Mark Mocho

The fear of Friday the 13th is called friggatriskaidekaphobia (Frigga being the name of the Norse goddess for whom “Friday” is named and triskaidekaphobia meaning fear of the number thirteen. It comes from Norse mythology, concerning a

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 8 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Mr. Fitch, in all honesty my post are generated as humor, not attempting to change anyone's mind, and I certainly am qualified to cast my own opinions regarding the differences between MG and purist flights. What you and the choir have at

Re: Today is Friday the 13th and you know what that means... (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 8 Hours ago by: waltco...@aol.com

There is only something to it if you decide there is. There are 365 days in a year and something bad happens every day. I had two car wrecks on June 6th, six years apart on the same road at almost the exact same time of day driving the s

Re: rising-air.slack.com (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 16 Hours ago by: kinsell

When you say there's no spam, how do you define what spam is? Granted most people would agree that Lennie and the Solution Manual stuff is spam, but after that it becomes rather subjective. Let's say, hypothetically speaking, there was

Re: Today is Friday the 13th and you know what that means... (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 18 Hours ago by: 2G

You ought to report the incident to the FAA - they WILL investigate. Tom

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 18 Hours ago by: 2G

Non-sequitur response noted, Bobby.

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 19 Hours ago by: jfitch

OK Bob, so now we have moved on from soaring and are arguing semantics. I’m on my boat, enroute to Alaska and really don’t have the time and bandwidth to keep this up. Ramy, I never called Bob greedy, and don’t think of him that way.

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 19 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

And the Choir sings.

Re: Today is Friday the 13th and you know what that means... (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 20 Hours ago by: Rakel

I had a near miss today. Great soaring day today and when I decided to return to the airport, I called out to local traffic my call sign and intention to land on runway 09, clearly mentioning that I am flying a glider. As I crossed over th

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 20 Hours ago by: 2G

That's RICH, Bobby, after all the racist comments you have made that are WELL DESERVING of a mouth washing!

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 22 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

There ya go! I recall with great pleasure getting home at 0300 after a long retrieve. More than that was that the buddy who retrieved me left a message for his wife that he was coming to get me. Oops! It was their anniversary and t

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 23 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

No word from Mr. Fitch?

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 23 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Open invitation!

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days ago by: Mark Mocho

I will make sure I have a bar of Dial if you do come this way. Old Bob, The Purist I thought a Purist would prefer Ivory, as it advertises "99.9% pure soap." But it will be interesting to see what happens if you try it.

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 1 Hour ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Glad that I will not be leaving the light on for you Mark, besides having heard you speak in person I would have to have a bar of soap to wash you mouth out, an old southern tradition when vulgarity spews from a child's mouth.. I will make

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 1 Hour ago by: Mark Mocho

If revenue is an issue for Old Bob, he might want to consider the number of pilots who are turned off by his snarky attitude towards anyone he feels like antagonizing. Motorglider pilots, women (remember "The Apology?"), OLC pilots and anyo

Today is Friday the 13th and you know what that means...

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Posted: 9 Days 3 Hours ago by: waltco...@aol.com

Tomorrow is Saturday the 14th.

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 3 Hours ago by: Ramy

At the end I find no correlation between how a pilot flies to the type of glider they fly. The conservative pilot will fly conservatively with or without an engine, and the aggressive cross country pilot will fly the same with or without.

Re: rising-air.slack.com (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 5 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

I use a simple newsreader that is part of Thunderbird, so I don't mind the spam, as typing "k" ("kill" {ignore} the thread) hides it from me going forward. Repeat bad actors, like the Solution Manuals and Darryl the Alaska guy, can be ad

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 7 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

You make the point I've tried to make: How you soar is affected by your equipment (and a lot of other things). There is a big difference in how a 1-26 pilot plans a flight, and his decisions in flight, compared to a pilot flying a Nimbu

Re: rising-air.slack.com (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 7 Hours ago by:

Eric, it's either "not much" or "not much yet." But there's no spam. On 2022-05-10, Eric Greenwell <owner@thegreenwells.netto> wrote:

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 7 Hours ago by: R

When you strip away all the hot sauce and postering of this thread, I believe Bob is closer to the truth than the Choir. No one can deny that the miracle of what we do, soar cross country, is reduce as engines become more the norm. But, we

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 8 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Mr Fitch, you need to refresh and find where as you stated in the possessive term that the tow revenue was directed toward me. As I have stated, I am not the club, I hold no title with the club, the club is not Bob, as you have implied. Pl

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 16 Hours ago by: Ramy

I keep refreshing the page. Can’t wait to see Bob’s reply although I bet he is going to be able to avoid jail. A real cliffhanger! Ramy On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 8:49:21 PM UTC-7, jfitch wrote:

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 17 Hours ago by: jfitch

"Now at least the sustainer guys contribute to the club when they are towed, 40-60 bucks helps the club with the overall operating expenses." How else is one to interpret that statement, but as a threat to revenue? If not that, what did

NEW - SoaringXX Wing Tie-Down Cradle

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Posted: 9 Days 22 Hours ago by: Paul Remde

Hi Soaring Friends, NEW - SoaringXX Wing Tie-Down Cradle - In Stock The SoaringXX Wing Tie-Down Cradle is designed for safely and securely holding a sailplane wing for tying-down at a soaring event. https://www.cumulus-soaring.com/store

Re: Ventus BT Fuel Tank (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days 22 Hours ago by: Mark Zivley

I couldn't find the option to "reply directly" which used to be an option so posting here. email me directly markdeltazulu mail with a gee I did this very thing a some years ago, no longer have the glider, but happy to connect. May ha

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 16 Hours ago by: 2G

Not So Purist Bobby DID NOT answer Jon's simple question: how much cross country time do you have in motorgliders (in the GLIDING mode, NOT touring MGs with the engine running). Since you dodged the question I will interpret that as ZERO.

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 18 Hours ago by: Mark Mocho

Said the frog as the water started to get warm......

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 19 Hours ago by: Tom Des

I'm starting to enjoy it...

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 19 Hours ago by: Mark Mocho

How long are you guys going to beat on this dead horse?

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 20 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Mr. Fitch, I have never stated as you have implied anything about tow money being a threat to my revenue On May5th I asked the question about motorgliders paying a fee for use of the field, maybe you should go back and do your homework pri

ISO Winter 57MM Altimeter

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Posted: 10 Days 23 Hours ago by: Ernesto Camaraza

Greetings everyone!! I hope you are all enjoying yourself’s contest flying and enjoying the new season. I’m looking for a Winter 57MM altimeter. If you have one and willing to let go, please reach out to me. Best Regards, Ernesto

Re: Oxygen Systems at Clubs (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days ago by: Dan Daly

Lubing the O-ring helps a lot too; MH has Christo-Lube mcg111 which is oxygen-safe. Dive shops who use nitrox also probably have it too (Amazon is out of the 5g tubes right now).

Re: Oxygen Systems at Clubs (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 3 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

I've been uncoupling my transfill hose for 5 years or so without a bleed valve and had no problems with o-rings. That said, a bleed valve would make it easier! I think the trick to not damaging the o-ring is to release the pressure ve

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 4 Hours ago by: jfitch

Re: ASH25M for sale (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 6 Hours ago by: J6 aka Airport Bum

Thanks, all, contact info received! Cheers, Jim J6 On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 6:56:15 AM UTC-5, seanr...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 6 Hours ago by: Guy Acheson

In car racing the subject of using nitrogen or carbon dioxide or argon to fill tires has been around for some time. The physics of gas expansion with heat is the same for any gas. Turns out that it is the moisture in the gas used to fill th

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 7 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

I've not seen it explained very well, but what they might be talking about is condensation. Most tires are filled with compressed ambient air, which has some water vapor in it, and a lot of vapor in humid areas. If the tire cools below t

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 8 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Bumper, I am not Lennie the Lurker, unlike what Eric says I enjoy all types of soaring, even motorgliding, but I know and understand that there is difference between pure sailplanes and motorgliders, something that MG pilots hardly ever ad

Re: ASH25M for sale (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 8 Hours ago by: Sean Franke

More info here: https://wingsandwheels.com/classifieds/schleicher-ash-25-mi507904358.html Sean

SSA Webinar - free - Friday May 13, 7 pm MDT- OLC

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Posted: 11 Days 14 Hours ago by: Cindy Brickner

SSA Webinar - Friday May 13, 7 pm MDT Free ! On Line Contest for Gliding. " If it isn't on OLC, it didn't happen!" Flight comparisons, task selection, weather post analysis, thermalling and cruising efficiency. How to use this tool for

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 15 Hours ago by: bumper

Are "Bob the Purist" and "Lennie the Lurker" one and the same? bumper

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 17 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

You don't evaluate MG pilots, but simply paint them all with the same brush. A real evaluation would find a wide variety of people flying motorgliders, just like the wide variety that fly towed gliders. This negativity may dissuade some

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 17 Hours ago by: 2G

You are right. This explains the benefits of nitrogen fill (not the least of which is the absence of internal oxidation): https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?gclid=Cj0KCQjwmuiTBhDoARIsAPiv6L_S9-Dgqc4r41PHU3ZmgXYZBkDe8fvwb

Re: Oxygen Systems at Clubs (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 17 Hours ago by: 2G

I use this transfill adapter: https://www.ebay.com/itm/333402663405?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=333402663405&targetid=1263433204774&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=9033822&poi=&campaignid=14859008593&mkgrou

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 17 Hours ago by: Kevin Finke

I've never understood the claim that nitrogen filled tires won't change the pressures with temperature as much as Air filled tires. Ideal gas law states that the relationship between Delta P, pressure change, is wholly a function of delta T

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 19 Hours ago by: 2G

Atmospheric pressure is about 14 psi, your tires are inflated to 40 psi or more (3x). It makes sense that there are a lot more oxygen atoms available to oxidize the rubber from inside the tire than outside. UV from the Sun is also a facto

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 19 Hours ago by: 2G

Well, we all know that Bobby IS NOT a purist at all, and knows nothing about motorgliders, as he has confirmed time and time again. What he is is a capitalist that wants to suck as much money as possible out of the pockets of his like-min

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 19 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Richard, thanks for the alternative point of view, greatly appreciated and accepted. My major theory is that motorglider pilots are not firmly fixed, AKA, insecure. They seem not to be very confident on their abilities to react under press

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 23 Hours ago by: SF

Eric, John Murray did a very scientific study based on his sales of replacement Cobra trailer fenders, and asking questions as to how old the tires responsible were at the time of the incident. And if I remember correctly his data indicate

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 5 Hours ago by: Dee

This is an expansive article on the wear issue. Even explains why tire aging is worse if they sit idle vs. road use. Google search is an amazing tool; this one took about 8 seconds.\ https://www.liveabout.com/the-science-of-tire-aging-3234

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 8 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

I stumbled upon this page by Goodyear, which says "Tire Dry Rot, aka Sidewall Weathering, is visible cracking in a tire’s tread or sidewall caused when a tire’s rubber compounds break down." https://www.goodyear.com/en-US/learn/tir

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 15 Hours ago by: Mike the Strike

I have had the best success with tires designed for trailer use - I believe this is due to the sidewall construction, since trailer tires aren't typically steered or driven like car or truck tires. Discount tire has always found me someth

Re: Status and future of glideport.aero? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 15 Hours ago by: kinsell

Where is the registration for enabling the ADS-B to OGN relay?

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 16 Hours ago by: 2G

Tire rot is the oxidation of the rubber while exposed to air. Since the air in the tire is compressed oxidation occurs faster from the inside than the outside.

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 17 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

I've always wondered what "tire rot" was. Is that a technical term? If so, what is the specific meaning? Michelin recommends 10 years as a replacement age limit on their tires. I don't know what other manufacturers recommend. https://

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 17 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

I know I've told you before, and (I think) also RAS: tirerack.com. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=Y356&partnum=8R43568

Re: Glider handicaps (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 18 Hours ago by: Bob Faris

The USA handicaps are inverse of the OLC handicaps and used for contest and record scoring in the USA. The OLC handicaps are already incorporated in the scoring program for the various OLC contests. Here are the list of the current OLC h

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 19 Hours ago by: Guy Acheson

See my post of 8 May. America's Tire and Discount Tire can get you trailer tires for 13/14/15 inch wheels.

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 19 Hours ago by: richard wilkening

The original Airmail Pilots looked down on lesser men who flew in enclosed cabins. https://dailytimewaster.blogspot.com/2017/05/decked-out-in-winter-flight-gear.html Eventually those that survived were won over. I for one am glad that t

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 19 Hours ago by: Charlie M. (UH &

A tire can't be sold as new if it was molded more than 3 years ago. Most trailer tires rot before wearing out. It seems like 5-7 years is about it for a "safe tire" before rot/cracks. The date code is on one sidewall, it's molded in a oval

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 19 Hours ago by: 2G

My, my - are we getting TESTY now, Not So Purist Bobby?

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 20 Hours ago by: 2G

You never mentioned where you can buy LT tires that will fit a Cobra trailer. Tom

Re: Glider handicaps (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 20 Hours ago by: 2G

Thanks for the responses, but unfortunately neither of these references are even close to the handicaps used by OLC. For example, the SSA has the ASH 31Mi/21 handicap at 0.805 while OLC uses 0.826, a 2.7% difference (I calculated the OLC

Re: rising-air.slack.com (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 20 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

What public subjects have been discussed there?

Re: Glider handicaps (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 23 Hours ago by: Dan Daly

If you're looking for the OLC handicaps, see https://www.daec.de/fileadmin/user_upload/files/2021/Sportarten/Segelflug/DMSt_Indexliste_2022.pdf

rising-air.slack.com

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Posted: 13 Days 1 Hour ago by:

This is a periodic reminder that a Slack "workspace" exists at rising-air.slack.com. 561 messages have been sent on it since it began early this year, most of them private. As long as no one is paying for this (which is typical), old ones w

Ventus BT Fuel Tank

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Posted: 13 Days 4 Hours ago by: MICHAEL DAVIS

The fuel pickups inside the tank on my Ventus bT have broken off. The only solution I can think of is to cut a hole in the tank, fix the pickups and repair the hole. The tank is composite, not metal. Any ideas on some easier repair. Thank

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 4 Hours ago by: Dan

I recently bought these tires for my Cobra Trailer- Goodyear Endurance st205/75r14 These are made for trailers and I noticed that the trailer tows much better than the original tires installed by Cobra There is a lot of info on them on th

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 5 Hours ago by: Papa3

Just did this last weekend with my 2013 Cobra. Mine had OEM tires from Cobra which were Dunlop auto tires 175/70/R14. My tire guy couldn't get the exact same Dunlops (they were one of their middle-of-the-range Sport models) and we r

Re: Glider handicaps (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 5 Hours ago by: Bob Faris

https://www.ssa.org/racing-rules-information/ under current sailplane handicaps tab

Glider handicaps

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Posted: 13 Days 5 Hours ago by: 2G

https://www.fai.org/page/igc-handicaps but the only handicaps I could find were for the Club class. Does anyone know where I can find a complete list of handicaps? Tom

Re: ASH25M for sale (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 5 Hours ago by: J6 aka Airport Bum

Lars, A friend of mine would like to be in contact with you on this. Please email me at julietsix -at- gmail.com and I will get you two in touch. Thanks, Jim J6 On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 1:06:10 PM UTC-5, Lars van Breemen wrote:

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 5 Hours ago by: 2G

I taught her how to pull a trailer, but she forgot most of it. Basically, a trailer tracks inside of the vehicle's track while turning and there was a curb that she pulled the trailer over too fast. We had another driving lesson after thi

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 6 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

This article contains substantial misstatements. "Bias ply trailer tires have a shorter tread life, but are built with a different construction method intended for heavier loads." Wrong: The tire rating tells you how much load a tire i

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 17 Hours ago by: Guy Acheson

America's Tire and Discount Tire have trailer tires for your rig. For 13 inch wheels it may take a couple of days to get them in the store. I find "trailer tires" have stiffer sidewalls and don't sway as much as automobile tires. I also buy

Re: Status and future of glideport.aero? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 20 Hours ago by: Ramy

I believe many would be happy to donate few bucks or pay subscription for a good reliable solution. I would. Quiet a few services are able to cover their costs with donations, subscriptions and advertisements (skysight, OLC etc). Weglide

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 21 Hours ago by: AS

I posted the same question with my friends in Germany and their resounding response was to stick with the OEM-type tires. The OEM tires on my Cobra trailer had no indication that they were anything but regular car tires. I had a blow-out

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 22 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

2G, hey dumbass, more motorglider engines fall apart vs helicopter.

How low can you start the motor?

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Posted: 14 Days ago by: Dave Nadler

I was asked to write this article, and I'd appreciate feedback and comments BY EMAIL. Thanks, Best Regards, Dave https://nadler.com/papers/Motorgliders_How_low_is_safe_for_an_air-start_draft4.html

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 1 Hour ago by: Anders Black

Apparently, trailer tires are pretty different from car or truck tires - FWIW. https://trailervalet.com/what-is-the-difference-between-trailer-tires-vs-regular-car-tires/ Andy Blackburn 9B

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 1 Hour ago by: Mark Mocho

I suggest etrailer.com for the best selection, price and delivery. Can't give any advice on what to buy, as far as size and composition. My trailer probably hasn't moved five miles in the last five years, but the tires are two years old jus

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 1 Hour ago by: Dave Nadler

Has she now trained you not to ask her to drive the trailer? Or further lessons required???

Re: Trailer tires, what to buy? (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 2 Hours ago by: 2G

Good luck on finding a light truck tire that will fit a Cobra. I got a trailer tire from Les Schwab after the wife blew out one of the tires driving the trailer over a curb (it is now the spare). Tom

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 2 Hours ago by: 2G

You mean that a helicopter is the only machine that wants to fly apart. Tom

Trailer tires, what to buy?

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Posted: 14 Days 3 Hours ago by: Chris Behm

Looks like the plane I intend to buy will need new trailer tires. It's a Cobra trailer and the tires are size 175/80R13. What are the latest trends and suggestions? Light truck tires vs trailer tires, pro's and con's? Going up a width or

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 7 Hours ago by: Mark Mocho

And, the title of this useless thread continues to set new records for truth. Not the responses, just the title.

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 8 Hours ago by: waltco...@aol.com

You do realize that the only real pilots are helicopter pilots and the only real flying machine is a helicopter. And remember, DON'T KILL THE TOW PILOT. (Seaplanes are nice too ) Walt Connelly Former Helicopter Pilot Now Happy Helicopter

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 16 Hours ago by: 2G

All this crap from Not So Purist Bobby has NOTHING to do with the "advantages" that motorglider pilots have over gravity gliders - it is ALL ABOUT MONEY! Bobby views motorgliders as a THREAT to his way of doing business, pure (so to speak

Re: Status and future of glideport.aero? (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 19 Hours ago by: Davis Chappins

The answer to all of the questions asked in this thread is the same: money. There is no money in developing trackers for gliders and no money paid to site owners to make existing ones better. Worse yet, the only revenue stream available f

Re: Status and future of glideport.aero? (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 22 Hours ago by: Andy Blackburn

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 2:14:34 PM UTC-7, Ramy wrote: I'm pretty sure they are listening. What I think would make sense is a list of all flights contained within the current defined window over the past 24 hours (maybe prior 24-hour p

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Mr Fitch, your implications speak for themselves. Old Bob, The Purist

Re: 2022 US FAI-Class Nationals Rules Documents Now Posted (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days ago by: Andy Blackburn

1) 10.3.3.2.4 - Wording corrected to reflect that for an outlanding the pilot is given credit for distance achieved to the point of greatest progress prior to retreating to a suitable landing place. 2) 10.6.1 - Deleted. Multiple task att

Re: new FAA AD for certain Scheibe-Aircraft-GmbH Model SF 25 C (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 5 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

If you own the aircraft you can make your own or provide a drawing to someone else to make them. It's in the FARs (if you're in the US). Dan 5J On 5/6/22 22:58, Stéphane Vander Veken wrote:

Re: Oxygen Systems at Clubs (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 5 Hours ago by: Richard Pfiffner

Transfiller equipment. http://www.craggyaero.com/mh_transfillers.htm Richard www.craggyaero.com

Re: Oxygen Systems at Clubs (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 7 Hours ago by: Jay Campbell

Western Enterprises is a good source for all of your re-fill/transfill needs, but if you are looking for schraeder-type fittings, the regular soaring supply houses have those. Try going to http://westernenterprises.com/. You can then se

Re: Energy Science ,Principles, Technologies, and Impacts ,Andrews &

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Posted: 15 Days 7 Hours ago by: Tayyaba Mukhtar

Re: Energy Science ,Principles, Technologies, and Impacts ,Andrews & Jelley ,3th e (solutions manual I want to this this book solution mannual

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 14 Hours ago by: jfitch

Reread it again. What I said was "but the money ends up in some one other than Bob's pocket". And again, you originally complained about the lack of tow fees charged to motorgliders, not me. On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 2:33:36 PM UTC-7, yo

Re: new FAA AD for certain Scheibe-Aircraft-GmbH Model SF 25 C gliders. (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 15 Hours ago by: Stéphane_Vander_Vek

Our SF-25C was affected, rust was detected inside the sticks (I suppose most older SF-25 sticks will be affected). No spare parts are available from Scheibe at the moment. We ordered a pair of sticks (to be manufactured) and sent our sticks

Re: Status and future of glideport.aero? (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 18 Hours ago by: kinsell

Those are two mighty big IF's. Uh huh. And how many years have they been working on this? Many people think they are already usable. At least they work reliably, which puts them far ahead of glideport. If it's so easy, why don't

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 21 Hours ago by: Mark Mocho

The title of this thread is most accurate. There is absolutely NO "thread drift."

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 23 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Mr. Fitch, you are the one that needs to re-read your post, you made reference about money going into Bob's pocket, maybe you are forgetting a few things. Old Bob, The Purist

Re: Status and future of glideport.aero? (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 23 Hours ago by: Ramy

Glideport is capable of showing everything that is on the OGN trackers, if everyone signs up to Niv’s server, and everything works. I talked to Frank and they are working on resolving the glideport issues. Meanwhile, I would have hoped

Re: Oxygen Systems at Clubs (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days ago by: Mark Mocho

Eric- That's the general idea, but they have to fit the proper nipple and nut needed for a CGA-540 socket on the oxygen cylinders. The ones in your example have a 5/16 NPT fitting- relatively uncommon. Plus, they need to have a socket with

Re: Oxygen Systems at Clubs (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days ago by: George Haeh

Hi Mark, We perforce S bended the pigtails, but some bends are more cramped than others. Please send photos of your arrangement to George dot Haeh at Gmail dot come. Which manufacturers will make up shorter pigtails?

Re: Slice & Dice Glider Accidents Data (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 1 Hour ago by: Shaun Wheeler

Very nice work. I went through a pile of these the hard way, this would have saved me a lot of work!

Re: Oxygen Systems at Clubs (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 1 Hour ago by: Eric Greenwell

Pigtails using 5/16" OD copper tubing are common, cheap, and adjustable to fit between cylinders. Would something like this work? https://factorysupplyoutlet.com/manifold-rigid-pigtails-cga-346-3000-psig-copper-5-16-in-1-ea-ea/

Re: Status and future of glideport.aero? (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 1 Hour ago by: kinsell

For more discussion, see "SSA - Glider Tracking" thread from last year, starting July 4. Slightly dated info, but a lot of details. I just tried to log into glideport.aero, said invalid password. Had to OK the security exemption due

Re: Oxygen Systems at Clubs (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 3 Hours ago by: Mark Mocho

Somehow a 12" hose ordered for 12" between cylinders ends up 17.75" long when fittings are added which makes problems with minimum bend radius. But it seems manufacturers don't make up hoses shorter than 12". You CAN get pigtails made smal

Re: Oxygen Systems at Clubs (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 3 Hours ago by: Mark Mocho

I've set up several Oxygen refill stations/carts over the years, starting with our hang gliding club in 1992. I think the easiest is a single cylinder with a simple transfill adapter from Mountain High. However, the single cylinder option,

Re: Oxygen Systems at Clubs (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 4 Hours ago by: George Haeh

Hey Patrick, I dropped off the ASC O2 trailer and hose box at CuNim a couple days ago. It's looking for a pull to the NATS. You're welcome to have a look. The tubing was replaced with hoses aka pigtails. Somehow a 12" hose ordered f

new FAA AD for certain Scheibe-Aircraft-GmbH Model SF 25 C gliders.

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Posted: 16 Days 4 Hours ago by: soarsn@yahoo.com

Abstract: The FAA is adopting a new airworthiness directive (AD) for certain Scheibe-Aircraft-GmbH Model SF 25 C gliders. This AD was prompted by mandatory continuing airworthiness information (MCAI) issued by the aviation authority of anot

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 5 Hours ago by: jfitch

Bob, Reread my response - I was perfectly polite (and calm). You must be confusing me with someone else :). And you were the one that brought up the lost tow fees, not me. In fact, I bought a towplane for our glider operation, after I alre

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 7 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

Yes, even myself after 26 years and 4000+ hours flying a motorglider, I still have to give myself pep talks ("You don't need to turn around now! Stay here with the good soaring instead of dashing for the airport at home!"). Most motorgli

Oxygen Systems at Clubs

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Posted: 16 Days 15 Hours ago by: Patrick (LS6-b EH)

Hey friends, our club is thinking about a O2 system and would like some feedback on other systems - that you're proud of. - trailer-based - fixed filling - pump vs. filled bottles Right now rely either on the generosity of a member, or a

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 16 Hours ago by: Dennis

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 16 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

The thrill of a low save is still there, but not accompanied by as much sweat as a towed pilot produces. The retrieve would be more difficult for the motorglider because of it's extra weight, but it's less likely to need a retrieve. Bal

Re: 2-33 or Similar Available? (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 18 Hours ago by: Tom L.

Thanks for the leads, everyone. I am grateful on behalf of our club. Tom Lyon

Re: Cobra Trailer Gas Spring Replacement Tips Requested (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 18 Hours ago by: Paul Remde

Hi Mark and Dave and everyone, Thank you very much for the excellent tips. We did the strut replacement today. We tied the trailer top up using the rafters in the large hangar. It worked well. Once the trailer was positioned and the t

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 22 Hours ago by: Ramy

I am pretty sure old Bob doesn’t have any hidden agenda other than triggering motorglider pilots and making fun of them ;) if/when I get a motor, Bob will be the first to know and I’ll brace myself… Now my view on the subject is sim

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 23 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Mr. Fitch, you need to get a grip on yourself and calm down, you should be more polite when you disagree with someone. For your information I have flown motorgliders both here in the US and abroad. I was introduced to motorgliders many y

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Bruce, come on over and join the fun with us here on the Treasure Coast, free tow on me or free self launch fee, on me. Old Bob, The Purist

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 1 Hour ago by: bpattonsoa@yahoo.com

I ran across a true purist in 1969 or 1970 at Crystalaire when I was renting their 1-34 learning about real soaring. He was a German student that had rented a glider, Cirrus I think, to do XCountry. He had no crew. He would fly North as

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 3 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

Bob, the problem is that our insurance company won't provide coverage if we install a hook. I know that's ridiculous but maybe they're concerned that 4717 tows given or thereabouts, is not enough experience. Then again it could be my

Re: 2-33 or Similar Available? (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 4 Hours ago by: Charlie M. (UH &

The group in Sandford Maine had one for sale, recently redone.

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 5 Hours ago by: jfitch

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 6 Hours ago by: Mark Mocho

but repeated requests for specifics from myself and others have gone unanswered. Eric- Old Bob always answers your questions. It's just that his answers do not provide any information. It's like asking a politician for specifics. You get

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 8 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

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Re: 2-33 or Similar Available? (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 8 Hours ago by: mike maskell

The Winnipeg Gliding Club has a KR03A Puchatek (Krosno) for sale. Listed on Wings and Wheels: https://wingsandwheels.com/classifieds/kr03-puchatek.html Mike Maskell

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 9 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Eric, I have flown with MG pilots, there is more to MG's than convenience, and you still ignore the opinion that there is a difference between the two paradigms. Yes, I do like enlightening you MG and sustainer guys, your skewed justificat

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 17 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

's getting better! You've been telling us pilots use motorgliders to go farther and faster than they would in a "pure" glider, and how they plan and fly so differently than the "pure" glider pilots. But now it seems you've noticed that'

Re: 2-33 or Similar Available? (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 20 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Contact North Florida Soaring, they have a 233 available that belonged to a good friend of mine. Old Bob, The Purist

Re: 2-33 or Similar Available? (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 20 Hours ago by: Kayla Hanke

https://wingsandwheels.com/classifieds/gliders/schweizer-sgs-2-33482442383.html On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:24:55 PM UTC-4, thomas...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 21 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

No Bum, keep it going, some of the mg comments have been funnier than Saturday Night Live with Eddie Murphy. I will make one comment on the MG guys remarks, your included, why haven't you mg guys been doing longer and better flights? Seem

2-33 or Similar Available?

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Posted: 17 Days 21 Hours ago by: Tom L.

Hi, The Northwest Soaring Club in Cadillac, Michigan is in need of a second two-place glider for the soaring season, and our strong preference is to find a 2-33. Please let me know if your club has a glider in the hangar that isn't too fa

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 21 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Dan, I had a tow hook on a 180, no problem. Old Bob, The Purist

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days ago by: Eric Greenwell

If you fly in with a MG, you are just an odd looking airplane, and it's usually easier than trying to get in with a trailer and tow vehicle, then rigging. The oddest situation I had was in Canada, where I landed at an airport with a FSS

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: Dan Marotta

Montrose, CO has airline service and I've attended two Stemme gatherings there. We tie our gliders down at the south end while the airline terminal is at the north end. We also use different runways so, as long as everyone monitors th

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: Dan Marotta

I have a partner in my Cessna 180 and he owns an ASW-27b. We explored the possibility of installing a tow release on the 180 so that we could go safari together (he's also a tow pilot). ... But the insurance company said (paraphrasin

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: Dan Marotta

Ritchfield, UT... I launched out of there in 2001 using a friend's ASW-24e on the 4th of July. It was the fourth day of our safari and I flew north to Salina, east to Green River, south over Moab and Montecello, UT, then to Cortez, CO

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 2 Hours ago by: Darren Braun

Eric, good to know. It would awesome to get a list of RV/MG friendly places going in some shape or form. Darren

ASH25M for sale

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Posted: 18 Days 2 Hours ago by: Lars van Breemen

ASH25M (not Mi) in perfect conditions with 26m tips. New tinted canopies, new cockpit with LX9000, new leather interior, PU paint and much more. Glider is damage free. Approx 1000 flight time. Approx 30 hrs engine time. Cobra trailer GFK. T

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 4 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

If getting access for a MG trailer is a problem, you won't be flying there with a towplane, either. My experience with gated airports is good, with them letting me bring the motorhome and trailer onto the ramp (like Richfield and Rifle)

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 4 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

That should be Rifle, CO, not UT!

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 4 Hours ago by: J6 aka Airport Bum

Yes, Nick, this is an issue. Not just on the enjoyment front, but for safety also. For me also, soaring is as much a social thing as an aviation thing. And safety is paramount. In the self-launch world, we need more encampments like th

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 4 Hours ago by: Doug Levy

Nick, I can understand your feeling of spending time alone is not enjoyable.. When I take my Phoenix touring motor glider I make an effort to catch dinner at a local brewery or bar and engage in a conversation with strangers. It is remar

Re: Another Cobra Trailer Gas Spring Question (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 4 Hours ago by: Mark Mocho

Roger that. It seems that earlier Comets DID have the horizontal locking bar. Also, the lift struts are externally mounted, which exposes the telescoping tubes to grit and dirt. This can cause the tubes to become difficult to collapse. Tr

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 5 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

It is more fun when others are around! I'm sure you could find other motorglider pilots that would love to fly from Austin or other good soaring location. I've done it, and it's easy to arrange: just some dates for where you'd like to

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 5 Hours ago by: Darren Braun

Nick makes a great point and along with that is getting ramp access to random gated airports located near the convergence/favored soaring terrain. Darren

Re: Another Cobra Trailer Gas Spring Question (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 5 Hours ago by: Gianni Isotope

Mark, thank you for all of your comments. Trailer's title indicates it is a Cobra was manufactured in 1989, which matches the age of my LS7.

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 7 Hours ago by: Nicholas Kennedy

ALONE Def: By yourself Yes Ramy is correct and that is my observation too; that MG pilots don't often go out and fly new interesting places, alone. At the end of Telluride Soaring existence I was the last one here for a couple of year

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 7 Hours ago by: J6 aka Airport Bum

Ramy, your comment is right on. Some of us in the motorgliding community, me included, are leaving some great soaring unflown due to not fully utilizing the gift of self-launch. Thanks for the positive challenge! I personally have only

Re: Another Cobra Trailer Gas Spring Question (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 8 Hours ago by: Mark Mocho

It is also possible that the telescoping tubes are binding up due to damage or contaminated grease inside, or no lubrication at all. Before altering the pressure in the springs, try to determine if there is a mechanical issue that is restri

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 16 Hours ago by: 2G

Not So Purist Bobby is losing the battle, as he admitted at the start of this thread. His incoherent ramblings reflect a despair that are linked to his self-interest in selling tows. Nothing is going to change his mind, but he is likely s

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 16 Hours ago by: jfitch

Bob, you were wrong and are wrong. Are there some motorglider pilots that cheat? Undoubtedly. Are the "purist" pilots that cheat? Likewise. But your logic - if one motorglider pilot cheats then they all must - applies equally to "purists".

Re: SSA Junior Soaring - 2022 Scholarship Awardees (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 21 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days ago by: Eric Greenwell

It's been a puzzle to me, too, but you see it in towed glider pilots also. They will buy a better glider, but don't extend their soaring performance commensurate with the improved glider performance. Eventually, I realized they got it s

Re: Another Cobra Trailer Gas Spring Question (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 1 Hour ago by: Mark Mocho

I just noticed that you refer to "the horizontal locking bar for the trailer's top." I have never seen this on a Cobra trailer. Komets, yes, but not Cobra. Are you sure it's a Cobra?

Re: Another Cobra Trailer Gas Spring Question (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 1 Hour ago by: Mark Mocho

When was your Cobra manufactured? The "riveted" handle attachment is completely different from every Cobra I have seen. I was told by Alfred Spindelberger that pressure can be released using the nail method, but the end you need to access

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 1 Hour ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Mr. Fitch, don't you remember the last time that you stated that I was wrong, yet the proof showed that I was correct, don't be so nieve.

Re: Eberle Trailer Wheel Bearing? (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 1 Hour ago by: collins...@gmail.com

Posting just in case anyone finds themselves in the predicament I was. 1972 axle, and European obviously, good luck finding replacement hubs or bearings, and to put a new sealed bearing in requires a press to pop the old one out and get

Another Cobra Trailer Gas Spring Question

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Posted: 19 Days 2 Hours ago by: Gianni Isotope

I was going to hijack Paul's thread, but thought better of it. I have the opposite problem with my Cobra trailer -- the gas springs are far too stiff, making it so difficult to close the top that I actually broke one of the top handles c

Re: Gas Strut for Pegase 101A (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 2 Hours ago by: Gianni Isotope

LS Technologies in Canada ( www.lstechnologies.ca) will custom build a canopy strut to your specifications, at a very affordable price. They will need to know the pressure rating, center to center extended length, rod diameter, and size of

Re: Status and future of glideport.aero? (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 3 Hours ago by: Ramy

I also recommend signing up with Niv’s server as described here https://www.pacificsoaring.org/articles/2020/using-ogn/using-ogn.html Which will display your flarm trace (if within OGN station range) AND your ADS-B on glideport. Ramy O

Re: SSA Junior Soaring - 2022 Scholarship Awardees (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 3 Hours ago by: Frank Whiteley

ERRATA. Purduski Awardee name misspelled. Anastasia Mitsky is the correct spelling.

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 3 Hours ago by: Ramy

Bob in reality, most motorglider pilots do not take advantage of their motors and fly even more conservatively than pure gliders in the areas I fly (except some of the guys at Minden and Ely). If I had a motorglider I would have used it to

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 3 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

Just about anything will burn but some burn hotter and with more toxic fumes. Some are also less tolerant of minor damage. I have an obsolete electronic device with an embedded lithium battery. Maybe I'll whack it with a hammer and see

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 4 Hours ago by: jfitch

Re: Gas Strut for Pegase 101A (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 5 Hours ago by: George Underhill

Hi Craig, I needed to replace the gas springs on a PZL trailer for an SZD Junior and had a good experience with American Gas Springs in Oregon. I spoke with an engineer there and emailed my specs and they supplied them in a reasonable t

Re: Cobra Trailer Gas Spring Replacement Tips Requested (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 6 Hours ago by: Mark Mocho

One other note: Make sure both the upper bolt and the lower pivot shaft are inserted through the square tubes AND the gas strut eyes. It is possible to miss the eye without realizing it, and the strut will not be properly secured to the piv

Re: Cobra Trailer Gas Spring Replacement Tips Requested (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 6 Hours ago by: soaringjac

I replaced mine about 8 months ago. Only one of them was dead which made it easier, but I did replace both struts anyways. I also have smaller trailer.. I just propped open the top with 2 2x4s placed at a slight angle. Took the strut bolts

Re: Cobra Trailer Gas Spring Replacement Tips Requested (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 8 Hours ago by: Dave Nadler

Absolutely, be careful!

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 13 Hours ago by: Ramy

Ha, I don’t recall saying I’ll buy a used Jetta as soon as they are available in the used market. Maybe an FES, maybe an AS33 electric, maybe a JS3 electric. I am still awaiting for that retrieve from hell which will convince me to g

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 15 Hours ago by: kinsell

Back in the old days, we had "sustainers" and "self-launchers", and it was just understood that a self-launcher also had good sustainer capability. Now you're asking for a self-launch only ship. But wait, the future is already here! I

Re: Cobra Trailer Gas Spring Replacement Tips Requested (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 17 Hours ago by: Mark Mocho

Bracing the top open with 2x4s does work, but it is quite a bit less safe than using a hoist. If using this method, only remove one strut at a time. Remove the weak strut first and replace it with the new one before proceeding to the second

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 18 Hours ago by: 2G

There is nothing "pure" about using a 235hp motor to get yourself launched, Not So Pure Bobby.

Re: Cobra Trailer Gas Spring Replacement Tips Requested (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 19 Hours ago by: Dave Nadler

I don't have a hoist, so I've used the 2x4 method. A few notes: 1) Make SURE the trailer can't move: Attach to a heavy car, rear jacks or door jacked against ground. 2) 2x4 into top's channel works great - but square it up at top and t

Re: Cobra Trailer Gas Spring Replacement Tips Requested (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 19 Hours ago by: Charlie M. (UH &

Exactly....just did 1 strut on a ASH-25 trailer at the Perry contest. We wedged a 2x3 between the trailer bottom (inside the trailer) and the rail in the top. To attach the strut, do the bottom first, install the T nut and then do the top.

Re: Cobra Trailer Gas Spring Replacement Tips Requested (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 19 Hours ago by: Paul Remde

Hi Mark, Thanks!!! Best Regards, Paul Remde On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 7:42:06 PM UTC-5, Mark Mocho wrote:

Re: Cobra Trailer Gas Spring Replacement Tips Requested (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 20 Hours ago by: Mark Mocho

I've done a bunch of lift strut replacements on Cobra trailers. The absolutely best way to do it safely is to use an overhead hoist or a hangar upper door header and come-along with straps attached to the rear handles. (The handles are plen

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 20 Hours ago by: Michael N.

Well we could also go back to the days of doing Diamond flights as downwind dashes with little to no communications with our ground support crew as so well detailed in Joseph Coleville Lincolns book Soaring For Diamonds. By the way one of

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 20 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

And bus fire powered by methane: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-bus-fire/fact-check-clip-does-not-show-a-battery-electric-bus-on-fire-idUSL2N2WN1L4 A toss-up for spectacular.

Cobra Trailer Gas Spring Replacement Tips Requested

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Posted: 19 Days 21 Hours ago by: Paul Remde

Hi, I think this may be the perfect question for this group. I own a share of a DG-1000S which we keep in a Cobra trailer with a fiberglass top. It's a large trailer, of course, and the fiberglass top is heavy. The gas springs (one on

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 21 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Eric don't think that is old purist didn't have a role model or two, I have been a real lucky guy and have flown gliders with some great pilots, probably none you ever heard of, but they were really good. The best of the guys was a man nam

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 21 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

If you really want to improve the Purist brand, you need to find a good role model, and the best one I know of is Henry Combs. Saturday after Saturday, he flew straight out, flying over 200 Diamond Distance flights, many of them ending

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 23 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Always welcome Mike, I do about 95 % of the towing and would be glad to have you at the end of the rope. Mike, I enjoy getting these MG guys all wired up and they just cannot get a good night of sleep without trying to justify their inferi

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 1 Hour ago by: Dan Marotta

Holy crap! I couldn't look away! But I did notice that the driver of the bus parked directly behind got the heck out of Dodge. Oh, and I saw the glider reference in the article. Dan 5J On 5/2/22 11:08, Bob W. wrote:

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 1 Hour ago by: RR

It is now clear why Bob does not want his own "Magic Button". He has much more fun pushing 2G's button(s), and I think it makes more noise too! RR

Re: How does soaring XC flight planning/conduct differ Motorglider vs (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 1 Hour ago by: 2G

I concur with all that has been said here, but will add one more thing: when planning a flight I know when I can launch vs waiting in a launch line that might be up to two hours long. It is impossible to do a long flight if your launch is

Re: How does soaring XC flight planning/conduct differ Motorglider vs (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 1 Hour ago by: Dave Nadler

As Jim knows, decision height for attempting a motor start is a lot higher than landing decision height for a pure glider. In last R5N contest during weak stretches, twice I detoured to position where I could turn to final at a larger

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 1 Hour ago by: 2G

I believe I have made this point before: a launch in my 31Mi takes about half a gallon while a Not So Purist Bob's launch takes 3-4 gallons, clearly MUCH more environmentally friendly. And don't even get me started on retrieves. Tom

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 1 Hour ago by: 2G

Probably not. Not So Purist Bob keeps starting new threads beating the same dead horse (i.e. defaming motorgliders and their owners). Tom

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 2 Hours ago by: Michael N.

P.S. Bob I came out to have a look at TCSC, nice operation. I'll be back later this year to soar with you guys, Ventus cT sustainer ready for use if needed. Mike N. - 1M

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 2 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

You missed the point: there are several things that make soaring more convenient. You know this, as you work hard to achieve that convenience: readily available tows, good club ships, and so on. Also, as I pointed out, money and job sta

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 2 Hours ago by: Michael N.

Will this never end....? :-P Same stuff that's been argued over and over for many years here on RAS. I'm worried about the carbon footprint required to keep this endless discussion going (not!!! ;-) ) I do wonder what glove Bob uses when

Re: The forces on a glider tied down with covers (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 2 Hours ago by: Jon May

If I leave my glider out which I would not if the weather forecast was bad,I take the tips off ,its 18m so the tips are quite long4M? they don't weigh much and I can easily fit them on my own.I don't know if it helps but I think the reduc

SSA Junior Soaring - 2022 Scholarship Awardees

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Posted: 20 Days 2 Hours ago by: cschra...@gmail.com

Congratulations to the following Juniors who've been awarded a Scholarship from the SSA in 2022! The SSA wishes to thank its many donors who made it possible this year to award over $42,000 to some 23 Juniors to assist them in their jou

Re: How does soaring XC flight planning/conduct differ Motorglider vs (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 2 Hours ago by: Michael N.

I have not tried it yet, but my Ventus cT manual gives excellent directions on how to remove the engine thus dropping that ballast. Seems it was designed to be relatively easy to remove the engine and re-install. Again, I have not actuall

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 3 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

Where it comes from depends very much on where you are. In the Pacific NW, where I live in Washington State, it's about 80% from dams, windmills, and solar panels; some areas near the East coast, it's probably mostly oil and coal. The c

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 3 Hours ago by: Bob W.

Aw, c'mon, Dan! Let's not insert killjoy-realities to an otherwise mostly-100%-opinionatory thread!!! Even if it *is* "something that 'obviously' goes without saying..." And since we're enjoying a mid-spring snowstormlet outside as I ty

Re: The forces on a glider tied down with covers (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 3 Hours ago by: bumper

On a couple of occasions, I've seen covered gliders lifted off and flying in their tiedowns at Minden. The wing covers were ballooned up over the wing.. They have also broken free to flip over and crash into other aircraft, and in one case

Re: The forces on a glider tied down with covers (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 4 Hours ago by: Mike the Strike

I was surprised to learn that most owners leaving their covered gliders outside at the Midland Gliding Club (my summer flying location) secure them by using wing stands alone without tie-downs. Many local fliers commented as I pounded a

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 4 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

Where did that electricity come from, Eric? Coal burning, most likely, or oil fired turbines. Just because you didn't burn the coal or oil does not make your motor "emissions free". I wish all the electro-geeks would acknowledge that

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 4 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

Jeez... I hate to take the other side, Bob, but... If you're gonna be like Al Gore and talk about carbon, then what about your Pawnee? IIRC from my towing days, a 235 hp Pawnee burns, what, 16 gph at takeoff? My Stemme burns 5 or 6

Re: Status and future of glideport.aero? (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 5 Hours ago by: kinsell

Look at the SAR section of wiki.glidernet.org There is some capability of looking at old data, but it would be nice if the commonly used viewers had a 24 hr persistence option on the track length. Dave

Re: Status and future of glideport.aero? (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 5 Hours ago by: J6 aka Airport Bum

Thanks, Davis, I got mixed up here, apologies.... You have and are doing great work here, much appreciated. Cheers, Jim J6 On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 10:04:13 AM UTC-5, davis.c...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Status and future of glideport.aero? (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 5 Hours ago by: Davis Chappins

You are referring to https://groups.google.com/g/rec.aviation.soaring/c/1zYbIJe7AkY/m/b9V3v4MFAQAJ created and hosted by me. This forwards spot and inreach locations to the OGN viewable by any OGN website. To further clarify, this was m

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 6 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Eric, you are making progress, not only does the motorglider make it more convenient to make certain flights and they do not have to be state records, but flights that require the purist to take a different approach to completing a goal f

Status and future of glideport.aero?

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Posted: 20 Days 6 Hours ago by: J6 aka Airport Bum

Just inquiring, since the XC season is now getting underway in earnest here in the USA. In particular, some of us who fly small camps/expeditions in remote sites really like having this tracking resource. Much more convenient than exchang

Re: How does soaring XC flight planning/conduct differ Motorglider vs (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 6 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

My experience and concern is identical to Jim's: My ASW20C was significantly easier to land in a field. There is another issue: the weight of the motorglider makes it harder to retrieve. The fuselage on my ASH26E weighs 500 lbs, far mo

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 7 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

That should be " - NO more record applications accepted".

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 7 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

In the olden days, motorgliders were not allowed apply for most SSA state records unless the motor was disabled after the launch. There was a motorglider class without that restriction. A few years ago, that restriction was removed, and

Re: How does soaring XC flight planning/conduct differ Motorglider vs (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 7 Hours ago by: Hartley Falbaum

What Jim and Hank said! About 1200 hr in a ASW20, than a '27. About 15 non-airport landings.Then about 600 in 2 different DG8xx. The first DG800B caused a landout on my first self launched flight! Taught a cheap lesson on putting faith in

Re: Spoilers that don't suck open (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 11 Hours ago by: Ian Molesworth

This is behind the new positive engagement lock being fitted to new ships. You unlock the brakes and then need to move the lever past a gate to open them. A good idea especially if there is even an outside chance of someone opening them abo

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 14 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

On another note, I have stated in the past that I do understand the self launch aspect of this motorglider segment, who knows, maybe one day Old Bob may have a self launch, but not with one of the Solo engines that seems to have a lifespan

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 16 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

One tow a day! NO relights! Well, OK, you can retrieve by aerotow, but you have to keep the rope until you are back in the pattern. Motorgliders can use the motor to self-retrieve, but have to wait at least an hour before using the motor

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 16 Hours ago by: 2G

Hey Ramy, no need to ask Old Bob - I can tell you that he HATES any kind of engine in a glider. Why? I have absolutely no idea other than he sees it as competition for his towplane. Tom

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 17 Hours ago by: Ramy

Bob, I have a solution. A motorglider which can only use the engine to launch. Once the engine is shut down, it can no longer restarted until landing. What do you think? I guess the motorgliders can still landout in an airstrip and relaun

Re: Spoilers that don't suck open (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 18 Hours ago by: Raul Boerner

Eric, The LS6 manual states that at high speeds, unless the flaps are in "-5" degrees, when unlocked, the air brakes will tend to suck open. Raul Boerner

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 21 Hours ago by: 2G

Damn right - it doesn't using any engine whatsoever, just gravity and some human power. I guess you could substitute a horse if you wanted my horsepower. Tom

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 22 Hours ago by: 2G

Hey Bob, I see that you have no meaningful reply to my accurate observations, just more hubris. Tom

Re: How does soaring XC flight planning/conduct differ Motorglider vs (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 22 Hours ago by: Hank Nixon

The only difference for me is that i can fly some days I otherwise could not fly because I don't need a tow. I tow or instruct on weekends and never fly my ships then, but I have the option to launch myself on a Wednesday and go soaring.

Re: How does soaring XC flight planning/conduct differ Motorglider vs (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 23 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

No offense "Bum", but I find reading Faulkners , "The Bear" much more interesting even with his void of punctuation. Old Bob, The Purist

Re: Schempp-Hirth Font Face

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Posted: 20 Days 23 Hours ago by: Christopher Gough

Google changed their links in Google Drive recently breaking that link. This one should not require access. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7C9X5HiivvLU1paY1NhWGFfNVk/view?usp=sharing&resourcekey=0-k02jFwl6r36qWM7taMkdqg

Re: How does soaring XC flight planning/conduct differ Motorglider vs (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 23 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

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Re: Spoilers that don't suck open (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 23 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

They suck open in the Stemme and they're flush with the wing when unlocked. Probably that pesky low pressure on the top surface of the wing that we love so much! Dan 5J On 5/1/22 10:36, Eric Greenwell wrote:

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 2 Hours ago by: john firth

You claim using a bungee to launch is pure? You are imposing on 4, 6 or 8 persons to get you into the air; the real pure method is gravity launch of which there is a Utube video, at a club in central Europe. Only a hill ,a paved track

Re: How does soaring XC flight planning/conduct differ Motorglider vs (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 3 Hours ago by: John Galloway

An engine allows you to fly an XC task on days when you want to be pretty sure that you will get home in good time of if you have no or limited retrieve possibilities. Other than that we shouldn't be planning a task in a motor glider tha

Re: How does soaring XC flight planning/conduct differ Motorglider vs (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 4 Hours ago by: J6 aka Airport Bum

Pilot: Jim J6, AKA “Airport Bum” Pure glider experience: A little over 1000 hours total in pure gliders, 700+ of this XC (badges, competition). Mostly in ASW-20, spread over 40+ years (some time off here and there for career reason

How does soaring XC flight planning/conduct differ Motorglider vs

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Posted: 21 Days 4 Hours ago by: J6 aka Airport Bum

I noted an interesting subject coming up in an otherwise non-productive post on this group, "How does soaring XC flight planning/conduct differ Motorglider vs Pure glider?" So, in the interest of generating positive and educational discuss

Re: The forces on a glider tied down with covers (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 4 Hours ago by: john firth

collapse around 50% chord as the flow separates; just what the Cl of this could be measured but not easily. It might be higher than the wing section at zero AoA. I think spoilers are a good precaution if you must face the wind. JMF

Re: The forces on a glider tied down with covers (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 4 Hours ago by: John Galloway

I can't give you numbers but some years ago in Scotland I watched a Duo with Jaxida covers on, and facing into wind lift both wing tips that were each weighed down with 2 x big water barrels and then roll backwards off the stands.

Spoilers that don't suck open

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Posted: 21 Days 4 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

The ASW27 and later Schleicher gliders have spoilers that won't suck open in flight when they are unlocked, because the trailing edge of the spoiler caps is higher than the leading edge (front edge flush with wing, rear edge not flush). I

The forces on a glider tied down with covers

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Posted: 21 Days 4 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

Does anyone know the forces on a glider with wing covers, that's tied-down facing directly into the wind? I'm guessing the lift from the wing is substantially reduced, but the rearward force is higher. If I'm right, a covered glider would

Winter ASI (MPH) (6FMS2-2-2) For Sale - Used

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Posted: 21 Days 6 Hours ago by: Pat Jordan

I replaced my Winter ASI (MPH) with a new one measured in Knots. The ASI is in good working condition. Asking $200 plus shipping.

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 7 Hours ago by: Jay Campbell

Dale Carnegie said: “The only way to win an argument is to avoid it..” So, I'm going soaring and not worrying about what you think of my choice of sailplanes. I know what I think, and that is the only important consideration for me.

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 7 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Thomas, you should control your emotions, you are making the MG community look really bad. Your best friend, Old Bob, The Purist

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 16 Hours ago by: 2G

What a bunch of crap. Your "purist" lands at an airport, calls you up, and you go retrieve him with your Pawnee. The only difference is a little extra time and cost. And if he lands in a field he calls you up and you come with a trailer,

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 17 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

Look at the OLC, and you'll the motor is rarely used. Most MG pilots are SOARING pilots, and we really want to complete the flight without using the motor. Before you tell MG pilots how differently we plan and fly, you should fly a seas

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 20 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Eric, I have had retrieves during the past few years and yes I will have more in the future. Yes, us purist do plan our flights accordingly and different from the MG guys and gals, we cannot make as many mistakes and therefore must optimiz

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 20 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

Perhaps I have misjudged what I see on the OLC. How many retrieves have you had in the last two or three years? How does your planning and flying differ from the MG guys? My planning and flying did not change much when I got a motorgli

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 22 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Eric, please do not lose sleep over the Purist vs the MG ! I have not left a lot on the table during my years of glider flying, rather I still put down in strange places every now and then. I just understand that there is a huge difference

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 23 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

Most of us, including you and me, want to avoid the inconvenience of landing away from our home airport. Motorglider owners have chosen a motor to provide the convenience of making it home; you've chosen to soar very cautiously to prov

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days ago by: 2G

You keep on calling yourself a purist, but you are anything but. You still use a motor to get your glider into the air, the only difference is where the motor is stored. Once launched, we don't use the motor again - this can be confirmed

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Don't worry about the tent, I will have an apartment in the hangar for use anytime you desire to fly with us. Now about that Libelle, us Purist is what is keeping this sport alive, our participation in clubs, and catching a tow from a comm

Re: Schempp-Hirth Font Face

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Posted: 22 Days 5 Hours ago by: Joe Flores

I could actually use that file as I am refinishing the fuselage of my Ventus B. The Link is saying I need access. Thanks in advance if I can get this! Joe Flores MGSA in Atlanta

Re: Butterfly (FLARM traffic display) Firmware 4.1 now available (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 7 Hours ago by: Dave Nadler

The x3 version was experimental (test version), minor cleanups in the released version. Please use the release version. Enjoy, Best Regards, Dave

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 8 Hours ago by: Tony

Thanks, Bob. One of the things that's keeping people out of soaring is the perceived cost. Sorry I can't fund 10 acres or an $80k ship with a ClearNav so guess I should move on. Or, rock on with Libelle and tent.

Re: Butterfly (FLARM traffic display) Firmware 4.1 now available (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 15 Hours ago by: Three Uniform

After downloading the bfd_4_1.bfw file, I noticed that I also have a bfd_4_1x3.bfw file in my USB stick archive, related to your (Dave's) message from March 17, 2021. What's the difference and which one is the current recommended file ? 3U

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Last of the big spenders, only ten or none. I have ten people already verbally committed, I will let you pitch a tent and use the porta potty. Old Bob, The Purist

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 5 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Eric, I understand this situation extremely well, been doing this gig for a long time and still having fun. My observation on motor gliders and sustainers is right on target, I do not have a problem flying my pure glider over areas where l

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 6 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

You have not understood, or at least not acknowledged, that most motorglider pilots had a choice: use tows and fly less, or get a motor and fly more. They chose more soaring. That's good, isn't it?

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 9 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Thanks for the invite Fitch, it would be a long cold trip for this old flip flop wearing Purist to make only to be denied a tow. I think back through last year alone and I was able to make 1000 tows and put a smile on many faces with my be

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 15 Hours ago by: jfitch

Re: It Gets Worse (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 17 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

Ol' Bob, you got to do some thinking, and then you'll realize a motorglider is like good dog: he's always there when you need him. Now, I can't say that about a towplane, which can be down for maintenance, or at the gas pump, or out pla

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 19 Hours ago by: Tony

Count me in for a quarter-acre🤷

It Gets Worse

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Posted: 23 Days 20 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Right when things are somewhat calm and the snowbirds are headed back up north the weather finally gets good and we were able to get a few good glider flights in the books. The motorglider drivers up at Seminole had some nice flights and di

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 20 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Bruce, thanks for the relay regarding the request, I think the pronoun they/them will not really describe Dave as I have known him for 45 years. Maybe the correct pronoun would be she/him, I understand that he was in Ocala looking for a ne

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 21 Hours ago by: Bruce Cynamon

Bob Not to hijack this thread but I spoke to Dave a couple of days ago. Since Dave does not subscribe to this list I was asked to let you know that Dave now identifies 100% as a self-launcher has further requested that he and the motorglid

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 23 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

That is the second mistake that you have made, first was buying the motorglider. Old Bob, The Purist

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days ago by: J6 aka Airport Bum

Yes Richard, I am sure that you are correct. The vast majority of gliders in the USA are not motorized, and the vast majority of glider pilots do not fly competition. I say motorized is the future because the vast majority of NEW glide

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 2 Hours ago by: Richard Pfiffner

Maybe for contests but I would guess most pilots that own gliders do not compete in contests and do not have motor gliders. Richard

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 2 Hours ago by: Richard Pfiffner

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 3 Hours ago by: Branko Stojkovic

So true Nick! Branko XYU

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 5 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

Of course you jest, but no inflation is needed: the difference between 18 out of 24 self-launchers in the 18M class, vs 17 out of 24 is insignificant, and it's an illustration that the future (or even "now") is motorgliders.

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 6 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

That was my error. I reviewed my notes, and I've occasional cramping for 10 years or so, but this year, they were more severe and almost uncontrollable, instead of just a nuisance.

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 8 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Those motorized guys always like to inflate the numbers ! Old Bob, The Purist

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 8 Hours ago by: J6 aka Airport Bum

Thanks Nelson for the correction! Subtract one from the 18 Meter motorized numbers, please…. Cheers, Jim J6 On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 6:46:57 PM UTC-5, Nelson Howe wrote:

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 14 Hours ago by: Paul

Bananas are supposed to be a good preventative and/or remedy for muscle cramps. High in potassium and magnesium. Also manageable in-flight food. p.

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 17 Hours ago by: Mark Mocho

I don't get "crippling" cramps, but I have noticed that early in the season, when I am trying to concentrate on not screwing up, I tend to put excessive pressure on the rudder pedals. This results in pain in my calves and ankles, which even

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 20 Hours ago by: paulstiles41@msn.com

I don't ever have cramps in my calves until get into a glider. This normally occurs early in the season. It seems to dissipate as I fly more often. This suggests that there is an acclimation process at work. My glider buddy (who is

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 21 Hours ago by: Nelson Howe

Actually, Jim has it wrong. XC won in a JS3 without the jet. Pure glider. Nelson

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 22 Hours ago by: kinsell

Well, you said it first showed up 2-3 years ago. I wouldn't be too quick to rule out medication changes as the source of the problem.

Used Oudie 2 For Sale

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Posted: 24 Days 22 Hours ago by: Ernesto Camaraza

Unit is working, in good used general condition and updated to the latest firmware. Panel mount and cables for power source once mounted on the panel and I believe that it appears to have the dongle to connect it to Flarm, carrying case and

Re: Used Oudie 2 Available (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 22 Hours ago by: Ernesto Camaraza

Unit is still available, willing to lower the price to $300.00 or best offer. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or if you would like pictures. On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 3:23:09 PM UTC-4, Ernesto Camaraza wrote:

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days ago by: Eric Greenwell

No medication changes for almost 3 years. I do take simvastatin, and have for 10+ years.

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 1 Hour ago by: kinsell

???????? "An 8-ounce bottle of the original, fruit-flavored, ready-to-drink Gatorade has only 37 milligrams of potassium. Even by the standards set by the National Kidney Foundation, this is a very small amount of potassium. By way

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 1 Hour ago by: danlj

NO!!! https://www.webmd.com/diet/foods-rich-in-potassium

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 4 Hours ago by: kinsell

With the problem showing up in early season flying in the NW, I would think dehydration or electrolyte depletion is not a likely candidate. Since this first showed up several years ago, does it correlate with any medication changes? D

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 5 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

Jim's figures highlight something we've known for years: the newer the glider, the more likely it is to be powered. "Sustainer or self launch is definitely the future" says Jim, but I think the future is already here, and powered gliders

Re: Beeps in the Cockpit (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 6 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

Thanks Ramy. Sounds like a plan. Dan 5J On 4/26/22 21:58, Ramy wrote:

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 6 Hours ago by: J6 aka Airport Bum

4 of the top 10 finishers in 18 Meter at Perry were unmotorized (all the ASG-29's), the other 6 being either sustainer or self launch. The one Ventus 3 in the top 10 was an FES, and the two guest V3's that scored (but being guests, did n

Re: Wanted: ASW24 water ballasts system (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 7 Hours ago by: Hank Nixon

Contact John Murray at Eastern Sailplane. He has the residual stock of the items to install this system. Almost all '24's came without valves for conversion in the US to avoid the problematic and slow electrical dump system. UH

Re: Gas Strut for Pegase 101A (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 7 Hours ago by: Hank Nixon

One useful source is Bansbach Easy lift UH

Slice & Dice Glider Accidents Data

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Posted: 25 Days 8 Hours ago by: IdoMillet

I compiled FAA USA glider accident data into an interactive web page: https://www.milletsoftware.com/Data/Glider_Events.html This allows you to slice & dice the data using pivot tables & charts. A dropdown allows you to select from predefi

Slice & Dice Glider Accidents Data

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Posted: 25 Days 8 Hours ago by: IdoMillet

I used FAA data to compile USA glider accidents into an interactive web page: https://www.milletsoftware.com/Data/Glider_Events.html This allows you to slice & dice the data via pivot tables & charts. A dropdown allows you to select from p

Re: Safe way to restrain glider for 330 lb tow release test? (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 13 Hours ago by: Bumpff Slam

I know of no TOST test that requires a loading of the release mounting system or tests the mounting integrity I think you misunderstand the test purpose. The aim of the test is to prove that an average individual can operate the releas

Re: Gas Strut for Pegase 101A (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 15 Hours ago by: Haven

I got one a while back from Williams Soaring Center.

Re: Beeps in the Cockpit (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 16 Hours ago by: Ramy

Dan, reduce your PCAS and ADSB ranges to something like 5 miles and 2000 feet and those beeps will actually be helpful. Ramy RamyOn Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:01:48 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 19 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Uncle Tom, I was doing this long before you, please do not try to make excuses for your motor glider performance. Old Bob, The Purist

Wanted: ASW24 water ballasts system

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Posted: 25 Days 19 Hours ago by: keith essex

Looking for either parts and pieces or even better a complete system for our ASW24B. It came from the factory without, I didn’t know this was possible. Keith

Re: Need to find Pawnee 235 fuel strainer (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 20 Hours ago by: Illini Glider Club V

Thank you for your input. We ordered one from Johnston Aircraft for $56. I was told that we will need to modify the center hole size in the mesh because this is made for the PA Comanche. They could order the proper ring from Argentina for

Re: composite repair station, northeast US (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 22 Hours ago by: Dan Goldman

Try Hank Nixon in NJ,

Re: composite repair station, northeast US (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 23 Hours ago by: john firth

Gehrlein Products – Quality fiberglass and metal repairs. FAA certified repair station GP1R174K. 9001 Hamot Road, 814-866-1131. Waterford, PA 16441.

Re: composite repair station, northeast US (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 1 Hour ago by: Pik20oneBravo

Thanks Mike but I hear they are no longer in business. Glad you had a good result though!

Re: composite repair station, northeast US (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 1 Hour ago by: Michael Fadden

M&H Soaring? New York State. I'm not sure if they are still in business. Top quality work on my glider but it was along time ago. Mike

Re: Beeps in the Cockpit (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 2 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

Got it! On my last flight I unplugged the FlarmView and it got wonderfully quiet in the cockpit except when I flew too fast and then the CNvXC would give a double beep telling me to slow down. Dan 5J On 4/20/22 16:03, Dan Marotta wrot

Re: Updating FlarmView (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 2 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

Yup, I'm relearning that right now. Dan 5J On 4/26/22 11:50, kinsell wrote:

Re: Updating FlarmView (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 3 Hours ago by: kinsell

The conversion is under the Files section. Those interfaces with a few buttons used for 20 different functions are frustrating. On 4/26/22 11:17, Dan Marotta wrote:

Re: Updating FlarmView (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 3 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

Thanks. I'll have to go to the airport to see if that works. I'll also completely read the manual again as I don't recall seeing what you said. I may have to wait for the next soaring day and hope the smoke has dissipated a bit. Dan

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 3 Hours ago by: waltco...@aol.com

Cindy B, I could not agree MORE. The staff, either volunteer or paid deserves more respect than you see them receive. I was a line boy in my youth and after Vietnam while in college. Some people in aviation think you are their gopher, t

Re: Needed: Tost Kobold 4 in wheel for LS6 (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 3 Hours ago by: kirk.stant

Hi Dan, One of the doors has some minor leading edge damage but our IA is taking care of it - it's in the line of things to do prior to the start of the soaring season here in Illinois. If the rain ever stops long enough. But thank you f

Re: SSA Assistance (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 3 Hours ago by: John Foster

Not a bad consideration. There are definitely clubs where some financial assistance in buying/maintaining a tow plane could be very helpful.

Re: Updating FlarmView (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 3 Hours ago by: Bob Faris

You don't need to use an external program to convert the fln file to the flx file. Download the flarmnet fln file to the micro sd card and use the Files menu in the Flarmview to convert to the flx file. Bob Faris

Updating FlarmView

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Posted: 26 Days 4 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

Hi All, I am trying to update my PowerFlarm Portable, ClearNav II computer, and FlarmView. The PF and CN are pretty straight forward but the FlarmView... Not so much. Referring to the FlarmView manual, it instructs to download the Fla

Gas Strut for Pegase 101A

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Posted: 26 Days 4 Hours ago by: craig scott

Hi, Just removed the gas strut from my Pegase and now looking for a replacement.. Anyone know which one to get specifically? My challenge is that the current strut has an M10 thread with a 10mm rod diameter and a 22mm cylinder diameter. I

Re: Butterfly (FLARM traffic display) Firmware 4.1 now available (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 5 Hours ago by: Dave Nadler

Yes!

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 5 Hours ago by: waltco...@aol.com

Bob, obviously encroachment of civilization and need to land for housing is a big factor. Still sad to see airports fall by the way side. My college playground, Silver Springs airport is now an RV park. Breaks my heart, that place kep

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Posted: 26 Days 6 Hours ago by: Frank Whiteley

Free Webinar Friday Apr 29, 2022 7:00 pm MDT 2022 BFSS Winter/Spring Training #8 - Flight Tracking Tools Several tracking systems are available for internet viewing of flights, enhancing flight safety for speed of retrieve or accident

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 7 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

It is interesting that this sports drink touts the sodium in it for cramp avoidance, and not the potassium and magnesium (which it also contains) other posters have suggested/recommended for cramp avoidance. This article mentions insuffi

Re: Safe way to restrain glider for 330 lb tow release test? (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 8 Hours ago by: david.s....@gmail.co

Using the "special tool that fits onto the Tost ring cage" would seem to defeat the purpose of the test. It is little different than a bench test since it does not load the mounting of the release to the glider, which appears to be the po

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Posted: 26 Days 14 Hours ago by: Cindy Brickner

2022 BFSS Winter/Spring Training #8 - Flight Tracking Tools Apr 14, 2022, 7:00 PM MDT USA Several tracking systems are available for internet viewing of flights, enhancing flight safety for speed of retrieve or accident recovery. Satellit

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 14 Hours ago by: Cindy Brickner

snipped Walt: Yes. They were/are. Years ago, many many years ago ..... I asked a soaring operation if they wished to transfer responsibility to me, as a new "owner". Transferring operational responsibility immediately, and ownersh

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 14 Hours ago by: cschra...@gmail.com

https://pedialyte.com/products/sport-liter/lemon-lime (this product line has both electrolytes and potassium)

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 16 Hours ago by: 2G

Bobby, you were puzzled alright because you don't know anything about gliders. A racing glider will always outperform a motorglider because it can operate at a considerably lower wing loading, which will win on weak days. And why offer to

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 17 Hours ago by: Charlie M. (UH &

Thanks for the writeups, I wish all contest reports were as good (there have been other reports as good as yours). I was there, and I still loved your reports (I was working on SST wings).

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Posted: 26 Days 20 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Walt, there are many more that have closed through the years and club have also been victims of closings as well. I go back several years ago in Florida alone there was soaring operations in Naples, Miami, Okeechobee, North Palm, Arcadia,

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 23 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

All I could garter from the results was that 6 of the top ten finishers in the 18 meter class were purist, if that is correct I looks like the purist pretty much dominated. I plan on sending the first place purist a fine bottle of pure rum

composite repair station, northeast US

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Posted: 26 Days 23 Hours ago by: Pik20oneBravo

Looking for a repair station in northeast US for a modest composite repair on a sailplane aileron, suggestions appreciated. Thanks, Bill

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days ago by: Hank Nixon

In the open class there was one pure glider in the class- Concordia- and it won the class. It is in the early stages of preparing for electric sustainer installation. Our ASH-25 now has and electric sustainer that was never close to being

Re: Used Oudie 2 Available (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 1 Hour ago by: Ernesto Camaraza

Unit is still available, willing to lower the price to $350.00 or best offer. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or if you would like pictures. On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 9:55:08 PM UTC-4, Ernesto Camaraza wrote:

Re: SSA Assistance (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 2 Hours ago by: Jeff Bures

Should we also include considerations for the cost of tow planes? Are they not also a limiting financial barrier? How much benefit might there be if the SSA could successfully lobby the FAA to allow experimental aircraft to tow gliders i

Re: SSA Assistance (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 2 Hours ago by: Hank Nixon

All of our glider purchases have been member financed. FWIW UH

Re: Butterfly (FLARM traffic display) Firmware 4.1 now available (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 3 Hours ago by: Andre Weidlich

Hi! Is this Firmware suitable for the old butterfly display from 2007/2008? Kind regards Andre

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 3 Hours ago by: danlj

The professionals have given some good advice above. I'm an internist and I've had cramps also. In addition to the advice about maintaining fluid/electrolyte hydration, wiggling, stretching, I"d add - stay physically active, as toned mu

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 3 Hours ago by: waltco...@aol.com

I was curious if the facilities mentioned were all commercial operations? Telluride Soaring; Closed Durango Val Air Soaring; Closed Salida Colorado Soaring; Closed Crawford Colorado Soaring; Closed Aspen Soaring; Closed Parowan Soar

Re: Needed: Tost Kobold 4 in wheel for LS6 (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 4 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

Hi Kirk, What's wrong with the gear door? I once fixed a gear door from my LS-6 that was damaged in a land out. I covered a batch of wet plaster of Paris with a single sheet of plastic film and laid the good door in it to make a mold

Re: Transponder choice (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 4 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

You won't be sorry! ...And integrating a Trig ADS-B solution is quite easy, as well. I have two of them, one in my Stemme and one in my home build gyro plane. Dan 5J On 4/25/22 04:01, Ludovic wrote:

Re: Needed: Tost Kobold 4 in wheel for LS6 (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 4 Hours ago by: kirk.stant

Yes, thank you - found a nice one and all is good; "new" wheel installed on my friends LS6. Now if we can just get the gear door fixed and finish the conditional... Thank you RAS for helping get a glider back ready for this season! Kirk

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 4 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

With apologies to Ol' Bob the Purist, it's becoming time to think about a self-launcher. Dan 5J On 4/25/22 07:21, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 4 Hours ago by: kinsell

Low potassium is a prime cause of muscle cramps, and Gatorade has very little potassium. You're much better off drinking milk if potassium is a problem.

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 4 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

This may be an illustration of what motorglider pilots have told you: without a motor, the glider has a lower minimum wing loading, and can do better on weak days. On my 18M ASH26E, the propulsion system increases the minimum wing loadi

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 5 Hours ago by: cschra...@gmail.com

Recently a fit, 30-yr old who was a passenger in a glider being flown in the Seniors suffered from serious dehydration and his muscles seized up. The pilot landed shortly thereafter and the passenger was met by an ambulance that put him on

Re: SSA Assistance (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 6 Hours ago by: cschra...@gmail.com

A few observations... Our Club has an SGS 2-33 and two G-103s. Rated glider pilots move up into the our single seat Cirrus (CN) and DG-505 (DS). The Club desperately needs another trainer and I can't find one. Hank, I have been looking ov

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 7 Hours ago by: Mark Mocho

You don't see hang gliders on vehicles parked in front of psychiatrists' offices either. People already assume we are crazy. I used to tell the wuffos, "When dealing with crazy people, it is inadvisable to bring it to their attention."

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 7 Hours ago by: Nicholas Kennedy

That is sad news about Ridge Soaring closing. In the Southwest things are grim. Telluride Soaring; Closed Durango Val Air Soaring; Closed Salida Colorado Soaring; Closed Crawford Colorado Soaring; Closed Aspen Soaring; Closed Parowan Soar

Re: Transponder choice (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 10 Hours ago by: Ludovic

Thanks for the information. I think I'll be going towards a Trig TT22. Regards Ludovic

Re: 5 pin male pin LX question (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 16 Hours ago by: S C

Many thanks for your help.

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 20 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

100% correct!! Old Bob, The Purist

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Posted: 27 Days 20 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

To Old Hank, The Purist from Old Bob, The Purist, check out soaring forum group on Facebook, you are absolutely correct! Old Bob, The Purist

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 21 Hours ago by: Hank Nixon

Sadly our sport is mostly populated by entitled "customers" and sparsely populated by "providers". For years the customers have been standing by waiting for new providers. Had some of these people banded together it may have been possibl

Re: SSA Assistance (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 21 Hours ago by: Hank Nixon

Our club has enough equipment now that the progression includes a 1-34 after the 1-26. As an example, once our juniors get time in the 1-34 it is not a big step to move them into my Std Libelle. After many years we have a '21. Interestin

Re: The Sky Hag (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 22 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Check out the progress made on the Sky Hag, Soaring Forum Group

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 5 (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 22 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

Rich, I have enjoyed reading your wonderful descriptions of the daily events at the Region 5 contest, maybe you should have gotten more sleep instead of posting these wonderful accounts of the daily activity, although I certainly enjoyed t

Re: Need to find Pawnee 235 fuel strainer (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 22 Hours ago by: youngbl...@gmail.com

I have a new one that was like the original, sorry I must keep it for myself. The option is to get one and cut it down to fit, that seems to be what everyone else does. Please correct me if I am wrong, I would lke to buy more of the origin

Re: Cambridge 302 Needed for Testing (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 1 Hour ago by: Paul Remde

Hi Sarah, Thank you for the note. I'd love to borrow your 302 whenever it is convenient. I'll be at the gliderport on Friday of the Cross-Country Camp. You could leave it in our hangar or the clubhouse any time. I need only the 302..

Re: Cambridge 302 Needed for Testing (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 1 Hour ago by: Paul Remde

Hi John, Thanks for the note. I think I have found a 302 locally to use for testing.. I can calibrate 302 units, and replace the built-in backup battery, but Gary Kammerer is the best resource for all other Cambridge repairs. You can s

Re: SeeYou Navigator update 2.4.0+1386 (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 2 Hours ago by: kirk.stant

I'm also waiting for at least having L/D to all airfields/landing points displayed as well as full Flarm integration as on legacy Oudie2 - until then Navigator is just a pretty app on my iPhone. OK backup, I suppose, but not a serious piece

Re: 5 pin male pin LX question (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 3 Hours ago by: Morgan Hall

LX uses the Binder M9 subminiature connectors. The LX90X0 male side is a Binder 09 009 7 00 05. The female counterpart is the 09 0098 00 05. https://www.binder-usa.com/us-en/products/subminiature-circular-connectors/m9-ip40/female-pane

Re: Need to find Pawnee 235 fuel strainer (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 3 Hours ago by: Charles Longley

Are you just looking for the O-ring or the entire gascolator? The O-ring should be a generic MS part number. I use Johnston Aircraft and Univair for most of my Pawnee parts orders.

Need to find Pawnee 235 fuel strainer

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Posted: 28 Days 4 Hours ago by: Illini Glider Club V

Could anyone help us to locate Fuel strainer for the Pawnee 235? In the manual at the Fuel system installation listed as line 22, part number 64270. This is a 35.-3.75" O-ring. Sorry, we did not remove it yet but I have a picture of it.

Re: Beeps in the Cockpit (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 5 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

Thanks, but that's a double beep to slow down and it occurs around 15 kias too fast. I get these beeps randomly throughout a flight and even sitting in the hangar. Dan 5J On 4/23/22 19:24, Dan Reagan wrote:

Re: 5 pin male pin LX question (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 5 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

Generally a set of pins come with a connector. Dan 5J On 4/23/22 14:42, S C wrote:

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 5 Hours ago by: Mike the Strike

I had leg cramps for many years - mostly at night, but also when flying. I was recommended foods high in magnesium and potassium rather than supplements and found that it did work for me. The DVT was a separate issue - a combination of p

Re: Tesla's still sorting things out (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 5 Hours ago by: Charles Gillespie

Now who would have summoned a self-driving car onto the ramp? The Cirrus owner perhaps?

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 5 Hours ago by: Mike the Strike

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 18 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

Did the magnesium cause the DVT? Or did the cramps return, even with use of magnesium?

Region 5 North Contest Day 5

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Posted: 28 Days 18 Hours ago by: Rich Owen

Final Day at the Races! Talladega Superspeedway is hosting a NASCAR event this weekend, but it is not the best event in South Carolina. Of course, we are talking about the Region 5 North contest in Perry SC. Like NASCAR, our competitors

Re: Beeps in the Cockpit (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 19 Hours ago by: Dan Reagan

It might be your vario/ClearNavII indicating to speed up or slow down. Check how you have it set. Dan Reagan

Re: "The End of an Era" Soaring magazine article (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 21 Hours ago by: Tony

Heartbreaking that nobody out there, not even family, could keep this treasure of a site going. Tom & Doris will be my heroes forever.

Re: SSA Assistance (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 22 Hours ago by: richard wilkening

At the last SSA Convention, held in LIT, I asked Noelle Mays of Williams Soaring (U.S. Schleicher dealer) what a new ASK-21 would cost. I'm pretty sure she said average price with average equipment was $160k.

Re: SSA Assistance (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 22 Hours ago by: pdxcol...@gmail.com

Well as I mentioned having no experience with many small clubs, I might be talking out of my arse (it won't be the first or last time), but I keep reading about the decline of both general aviation and glider pilot students. Are there re

Re: SSA Assistance (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 23 Hours ago by: 2G

If you are going to start a club that has reasonably modern aircraft it will take, at least, $200k. A quick check of a/c loan companies shows that the monthly payment is $3,400 for a 12-year loan. You will also need more money for annuals

Re: SSA Assistance (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 23 Hours ago by: John Foster

If all your club has to offer are 2-33s and 1-26s, it's kinda a dead-end club. Very difficult for club members to move beyond these old low-performance gliders, unless they go elsewhere and invest a lot more of their own money to get add

Re: SSA Assistance (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 23 Hours ago by: John Foster

So how would a club transition a club member from a 2-33 to a something like a Standard Cirrus, ASW 15, or a Bolkow Phoebus then? I'm not saying that 2-33s should go away. But they are getting harder to find, and more and more get damag

5 pin male pin LX question

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Posted: 29 Days ago by: S C

Hello all..I am trying to connect my LX to a PowerMouse via the round pin connector (LX5PF) which I've ordered. Would anyone know/have a reference /size of the male side pin? There's no precise info in the manuals that I've found other than

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 1 Hour ago by: Mike the Strike

Magnesium worked for me - until I had a DVT! Mike

Re: Tesla's still sorting things out (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 4 Hours ago by: Dan Marotta

Hold my glass of wine and watch my car come to me... Dan 5J On 4/23/22 10:27, Nicholas Kennedy wrote:

Tesla's still sorting things out

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Posted: 29 Days 4 Hours ago by: Nicholas Kennedy

Re: SSA Assistance (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 4 Hours ago by: 2G

You can start by reviewing all of the financial and organizational documents on the SSA's website: https://www.ssa.org/ssa-foundation/ Tom

Re: Transponder choice (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 4 Hours ago by: Traditions - Marketi

If you are going to spend the money on a transponder, you are crazy not to spend the extra cash to install ADS-B Out. Not only does this make you visible to the huge number of GA aircraft that are flying around with ADS-B IN, but it also

Re: Transponder choice (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 4 Hours ago by: 2G

That's absolutely right: I got my first transponder after finding out the FAA in their infinite wisdom was routing incoming traffic to Reno directly down the Pine Nuts near Minden. When you see a 737 come out of the clouds 1,000 ft above

Re: Transponder choice (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 5 Hours ago by: Richard Pfiffner

For my 2 cents it is not where it is required. It is where you want to be seen!!!! Richard www.craggyaero.com

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying - report 1 (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 7 Hours ago by: Eric Greenwell

The first two flights this year, I had severe leg and foot cramps after 3 hours of flying. The next four flights of 4 to 6 hours, no cramps. Was that due to the 125mg of magnesium and the 20 oz of diluted Gatorade I had before each fligh

Re: SSA Assistance (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 7 Hours ago by: Hank Nixon

I do not agree. 21's are really nice gliders- I own one. BUT- for a small club with limited cash flow, one can have two 2-33's and a 1-26 for less than the cost of a '21. Having enough ships for all to fly matters. Plus- If you break one,

Re: Leg/foot cramps while flying (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 9 Hours ago by: Turkey Vulture

I get these cramps as well after long flights, sometimes on short flights. I get them in both cold and hot conditions. I started getting cramps in my new ship. I never got cramps before. Slight positional change? Perhaps we don't realize

Re: Transponder choice (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 16 Hours ago by: 2G

Here is where ADS-B is required: https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/technology/equipadsb/research/airspace/ Tom

Re: SSA Assistance (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 16 Hours ago by: Tom Desjardins

I'm just returning to soaring after a 12 year absence with only 42 glider hours. I flew my first 13 flights in a 2-33, then 10 years later came back and earned my glider rating in a ASK-21. There's no reason why it would have been a probl

Re: Region 5 North Contest Day 4 (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 17 Hours ago by: AS

Thank you very much, ZO! Reading these reports was very enjoyable, indeed. Uli 'AS'

Region 5 North Contest Day 4

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Posted: 29 Days 18 Hours ago by: Rich Owen

A Perfect Day! When pilots talk about a perfect contest day, they would probably love today. The weather had good Cu, great lift, and the tasks still had a level of toughness to them. The day started like any other at Perry International

SSA Assistance

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Posted: 29 Days 18 Hours ago by: John Foster

I was just reading David Hart's column in the latest (April 2022) Soaring Magazine, and got to thinking. He lays out 3 ways the SSA can assist in growing soaring in the US: 1. Awareness, 2. Assistance, and 3. Infrastructure. With the rece

Re: Cambridge 302 Needed for Testing (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 18 Hours ago by: Sarah Anderson

I have one I'm not using. On 4/22/22 10:41 AM, Paul Remde wrote:

Re: 2022 early season crashes (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 23 Hours ago by: John Sinclair

Good advice, Dan……….rushing to get in the air cost Clem Bowman his life. He slid the stab onto the fin but couldn’t lock it because he’d given his wife the little red knob to start putting water in the wings. That littl

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