On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
> The Washington Post and Wikipedia report that Zhou Youguang,
> the creator of the Pinyin writing system for Chinese and other
> far-eastern languages, died at age 111. He's the man who turned
> Peking into Beijing, and Mao Tse-Tung into Mao Zedong.

> He was in his 40s during China's Communist revolution 70 years ago,
> and over 65 when President Nixon went to China 44 years ago.

> At eleventy-one, I think he holds the record for oldest-ever famous
> person, not counting people who were famous only for being old.

He was born January 13, 1906, and died January 14, 2017, so his age
was 111 years and 1 day.

We have a new record. Ruthie Tompson, born July 22, 1910, died
October 10, 2021, at an age of 111 years and 2 months. She was an
animator for Disney, having been hired by Walt Disney in person in
the 1930s.

And yes, she meets the standard for fame: She has a Wikipedia page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthie_Tompson

She was never on Wikipedia's page of the 50 oldest living people,
however. The youngest people on that list are 112. (The oldest
is 118, almost 119.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_oldest_living_people

Has Wikipedia's SSL certificate really expired, or is that just an
incompatibility with my browser?
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 00:04:39 -0000 (UTC),
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
> Has Wikipedia's SSL certificate really expired, or is that just an
> incompatibility with my browser?

Looks OK to me - will expire at the weekend, but I am sure they will
renew and install the new certs Saturday.

Let me guess you are using a fairly old Mac? There is an issue where
one of the root certs has expired and the OS is holding onto the
expired chain. There are howtos on how to fix this on the web.

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In article <skagim$qqq$1@reader1.panix.com>, kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F.
Lynch) wrote:

>
> We have a new record. Ruthie Tompson, born July 22, 1910, died
> October 10, 2021, at an age of 111 years and 2 months.

Hey, we shared a birthday! She was a bit older than me, though. :-)

(I also share a birthday with the Reverend William Spooner and Bonnie
Langford.)

On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 2:48:54 AM UTC-7, Paul Dormer wrote:
> In article <skagim$qqq$1...@reader1.panix.com>, k...@KeithLynch.net (Keith F.
> Lynch) wrote:
>
> >
> > We have a new record. Ruthie Tompson, born July 22, 1910, died
> > October 10, 2021, at an age of 111 years and 2 months.
> Hey, we shared a birthday! She was a bit older than me, though. :-)
>
> (I also share a birthday with the Reverend William Spooner and Bonnie
> Langford.)

Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.

Pt

On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 10:37:17 -0700 (PDT), Peter Trei
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 2:48:54 AM UTC-7, Paul Dormer wrote:
>> In article <skagim$qqq$1...@reader1.panix.com>, k...@KeithLynch.net (Keith F.
>> Lynch) wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > We have a new record. Ruthie Tompson, born July 22, 1910, died
>> > October 10, 2021, at an age of 111 years and 2 months.
>> Hey, we shared a birthday! She was a bit older than me, though. :-)
>>
>> (I also share a birthday with the Reverend William Spooner and Bonnie
>> Langford.)
>
>Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.
>
>Pt

I don't, off hand, know about people, but I share mine with Nagasaki
Day.
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In article <c1dba944-63e6-4910-8662-238f77be63acn@googlegroups.com>,
Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 2:48:54 AM UTC-7, Paul Dormer wrote:
>> In article <skagim$qqq$1...@reader1.panix.com>, k...@KeithLynch.net (Keith F.
>> Lynch) wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > We have a new record. Ruthie Tompson, born July 22, 1910, died
>> > October 10, 2021, at an age of 111 years and 2 months.
>> Hey, we shared a birthday! She was a bit older than me, though. :-)
>>
>> (I also share a birthday with the Reverend William Spooner and Bonnie
>> Langford.)
>
>Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.

Hmmm. A quick search reveals a list of people born on June 6,
none of whom I ever heard of. I'll stick with the Battle of
Midway, which (stretching the definition a bit) we can regard as
the "birth" of the Allied victory in the Pacific.

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On 10/15/2021 5:43 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <c1dba944-63e6-4910-8662-238f77be63acn@googlegroups.com>,
> Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 2:48:54 AM UTC-7, Paul Dormer wrote:
>>> In article <skagim$qqq$1...@reader1.panix.com>, k...@KeithLynch.net (Keith F.
>>> Lynch) wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We have a new record. Ruthie Tompson, born July 22, 1910, died
>>>> October 10, 2021, at an age of 111 years and 2 months.
>>> Hey, we shared a birthday! She was a bit older than me, though. :-)
>>>
>>> (I also share a birthday with the Reverend William Spooner and Bonnie
>>> Langford.)
>>
>> Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.
>
> Hmmm. A quick search reveals a list of people born on June 6,
> none of whom I ever heard of. I'll stick with the Battle of
> Midway, which (stretching the definition a bit) we can regard as
> the "birth" of the Allied victory in the Pacific.
>

I've heard of some of the ones from my birthday of 21 May.

Amazingly, the oldest living one--Bob Northern--isn't even old enough to
be my parents' father, only having been born in '34.

Probably the most /famous/ ones sort of bracket my birth year: Biggie
Smalls and Gotye--as well as, much later Josh Allen, if you're a fan of
American Football.

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In article <c1dba944-63e6-4910-8662-238f77be63acn@googlegroups.com>,
petertrei@gmail.com (Peter Trei) wrote:

>
>
> Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.

I also share mine wit Prince George.

On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 6:20:25 AM UTC-4, Paul Dormer wrote:
> In article <c1dba944-63e6-4910...@googlegroups.com>,
> pete...@gmail.com (Peter Trei) wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.
> I also share mine wit Prince George.

Which Prince George?

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On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 11:49:58 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 6:20:25 AM UTC-4, Paul Dormer wrote:
>> In article <c1dba944-63e6-4910...@googlegroups.com>,
>> pete...@gmail.com (Peter Trei) wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.
>> I also share mine wit Prince George.
>
>Which Prince George?

The one whose Great-Grandma I share my birthday with :-)

Which is why my radio alarm clock usually wakes me up on my birthday with the
national anthem...

Alan Woodford

The Greying Lensman

In article <388885c4-c05a-4fc0-9345-ba51a93866ban@googlegroups.com>,
Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 6:20:25 AM UTC-4, Paul Dormer wrote:
>> In article <c1dba944-63e6-4910...@googlegroups.com>,
>> pete...@gmail.com (Peter Trei) wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.
>> I also share mine wit Prince George.
>
>Which Prince George?
>
I'm going to guess the one who's young and cute and photogenic.

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In article <tkbmmgdusre987d0tavc1b8aha8dt9fvje@4ax.com>,
Alan Woodford <alan@thewoodfords.uk> wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 11:49:58 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 6:20:25 AM UTC-4, Paul Dormer wrote:
>>> In article <c1dba944-63e6-4910...@googlegroups.com>,
>>> pete...@gmail.com (Peter Trei) wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.
>>> I also share mine wit Prince George.
>>
>>Which Prince George?
>
>The one whose Great-Grandma I share my birthday with :-)
>
>Which is why my radio alarm clock usually wakes me up on my birthday with the
>national anthem...

Awwwww.

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Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
> Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> Paul Dormer wrote:
>>> pete...@gmail.com (Peter Trei) wrote:
>>>> Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.

>>> I also share mine wit Prince George.

>> Which Prince George?

> I'm going to guess the one who's young and cute and photogenic.

Not the one nearby (to me) Prince George's County, Maryland, is
named for? His birthday is April 2, 1653, according to Wikipedia.
But it doesn't say whether that's OS (Julian) or NS (Gregorian).

Instead it says, "The date is occasionally given as 29 February,
21 April or 11 November 1653, but 2 April is the date on his
coffin plate."
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Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> wrote:
> Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>> Has Wikipedia's SSL certificate really expired, or is that just an
>> incompatibility with my browser?

> Looks OK to me - will expire at the weekend, but I am sure they will
> renew and install the new certs Saturday.

> Let me guess you are using a fairly old Mac? There is an issue
> where one of the root certs has expired and the OS is holding onto
> the expired chain. There are howtos on how to fix this on the web.

I'm using Lynx on Panix. For the past several weeks I've gotten the
message: "SSL error:certificate has expired-Continue? (y)"
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On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 5:19:22 PM UTC-4, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
> Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:
> > Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >> Paul Dormer wrote:
> >>> pete...@gmail.com (Peter Trei) wrote:
> >>>> Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.
>
> >>> I also share mine wit Prince George.
>
> >> Which Prince George?
>
> > I'm going to guess the one who's young and cute and photogenic.

That's this little welfare case:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_George_of_Cambridge

My mind went to George IV, who was Prince Regent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_IV

> Not the one nearby (to me) Prince George's County, Maryland, is
> named for? His birthday is April 2, 1653, according to Wikipedia.
> But it doesn't say whether that's OS (Julian) or NS (Gregorian).
>
> Instead it says, "The date is occasionally given as 29 February,
> 21 April or 11 November 1653, but 2 April is the date on his
> coffin plate."
> --

That was this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_George_of_Denmark

Married to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Queen_of_Great_Britain

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Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
> Keith F. Lynch wrote:
>> Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>> Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>> Which Prince George?

>>> I'm going to guess the one who's young and cute and photogenic.

> That's this little welfare case:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_George_of_Cambridge

> My mind went to George IV, who was Prince Regent.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_IV

All six Georges who were King of Great Britain, except the first,
started as Prince George.

>> Not the one nearby (to me) Prince George's County, Maryland, is
>> named for?

My mind went to that one, since that's the most common context in
which I hear "Prince George." Even though it's more often just
called PG County. Indeed, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PG_County
goes straight to the page for Prince George's County, Maryland.

> That was this one:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_George_of_Denmark

I know. Why Denmark? The same reason Queens, New York is named for a
Portuguese queen.

> Married to:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Queen_of_Great_Britain

Best known for her lace, a kind of plant.

And that's the reason. The Portuguese queen was also married to the
ruler of Great Britain. Or rather the ruler of England, Scotland, and
Ireland, Charles II. Not to be confused with Charles I, who lost his
head, or with Charles III who will rule after the current queen unless
he dies of old age first.
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On 10/17/21 12:05 AM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
> And that's the reason. The Portuguese queen was also married to the
> ruler of Great Britain. Or rather the ruler of England, Scotland, and
> Ireland, Charles II. Not to be confused with Charles I, who lost his
> head, or with Charles III who will rule after the current queen unless
> he dies of old age first.

The family connections among the royalty of Europe were absurd. Kaiser
Wilhelm was Queen Victoria's grandson, and Czar Nicholas was his first
cousin. World War I can be viewed as a family argument that got out of hand.

When Hungary was divided between the Holy Roman Empire and the Ottoman
Empire in the 16th century, the ruler of the HRE's part was Ferdinand
and the queen of the Ottoman vassal state was Isabella. This wasn't a
total coincidence, as this Ferdinand was a grandson of the infamous King
Ferdinand of Aragon. The younger Ferdinand's brother, the Holy Roman
Emperor Charles V, was king of Spain as well.

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On 10/17/21 5:47 AM, Gary McGath wrote:

> The family connections among the royalty of Europe were absurd. Kaiser
> Wilhelm was Queen Victoria's grandson, and Czar Nicholas was his first
> cousin. World War I can be viewed as a family argument that got out of hand.
>
> When Hungary was divided between the Holy Roman Empire and the Ottoman
> Empire in the 16th century, the ruler of the HRE's part was Ferdinand
> and the queen of the Ottoman vassal state was Isabella. This wasn't a
> total coincidence, as this Ferdinand was a grandson of the infamous King
> Ferdinand of Aragon. The younger Ferdinand's brother, the Holy Roman
> Emperor Charles V, was king of Spain as well.
>

I should have tied those two threads together by finding a line of
descent from those Ferdinands to the one whose murder triggered World
War I. I haven't been able to trace one definitely, but I'm sure there
was one.

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On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 21:33:36 -0000 (UTC), Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
> Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> wrote:
>> Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>>> Has Wikipedia's SSL certificate really expired, or is that just an
>>> incompatibility with my browser?
>
>> Looks OK to me - will expire at the weekend, but I am sure they will
>> renew and install the new certs Saturday.
>
>> Let me guess you are using a fairly old Mac? There is an issue
>> where one of the root certs has expired and the OS is holding onto
>> the expired chain. There are howtos on how to fix this on the web.
>
> I'm using Lynx on Panix. For the past several weeks I've gotten the
> message: "SSL error:certificate has expired-Continue? (y)"

Lynx worked/works OK for me on local installs of Linux.

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In article <tkbmmgdusre987d0tavc1b8aha8dt9fvje@4ax.com>,
alan@thewoodfords.uk (Alan Woodford) wrote:

>
> The one whose Great-Grandma I share my birthday with :-)
>
> Which is why my radio alarm clock usually wakes me up on my birthday
> with the
> national anthem...

The day after my mother's birthday. My mother also shared a birthday
with Ian Watson and Adolf Hitler.

My alarm is set to Radio 3, so no National Anthem usually, although they
did dump all their usual scheduling when Philip died this year. Messed
up their commemoration of the fiftieth anniversary of Stravinksy's death.
(Really glad I was out of the country for the whole week following Di's
death.)

In article <r1385A.2087@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:

>
> I'm going to guess the one who's young and cute and photogenic.

No, that's me.

In article <skg7en$lls$1@reader1.panix.com>, kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F.
Lynch) wrote:

>
> > Married to:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Queen_of_Great_Britain
>
> Best known for her lace, a kind of plant.

There's a rather fun film from the forties called The Ghosts of Berkeley
Square about a couple of old soldiers at the time of Queen Anne who
decided they'll have to capture the Duke of Marlborough to prevent what
they are sure is going to be a military disaster at Blenheim. They
invite him to their home where they've set up a trapdoor to catch him.
Unfortunately, trying it out they manage to kill themselves just as the
queen is due to arrive for tea. Lots of jokes about Queen Anne and tea,
which I don't fully get. Also jokes about the Duke of Marlborough being
the ancestor of Winston Churchill.

Anyway, the plot is that to be released as ghosts they have to have a
member of the royal family visit their house and it takes a couple of
hundred years for this to happen.

On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:26 +0100 (BST), prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer)
wrote:

>In article <r1385A.2087@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
>Heydt) wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm going to guess the one who's young and cute and photogenic.
>
>No, that's me.

ROLFL!

Well played, sir.

Alan Woodford
The Greying Lensman

Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
> (Really glad I was out of the country for the whole week following
> Di's death.)

ObFandom: You were in San Antonio for the Worldcon, right?

Remember the Alamo!
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Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
> Also jokes about the Duke of Marlborough being the ancestor of
> Winston Churchill.

Churchill has an interesting ancestry. His grandfather was an American.

> Anyway, the plot is that to be released as ghosts they have to have
> a member of the royal family visit their house and it takes a couple
> of hundred years for this to happen.

What would have happened if the house had been torn down? Or if the
royal family had died out? Would the ghosts have still been active
after the sun had gone red giant and vaporized our planet (10^9
years)? After every proton in the universe had decayed (10^36 years)?
After every black hole had decayed due to Hawking radiation (10^90
years)? They would have been kind of bored after the first few
trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion
trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion
trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion eons.
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