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|  `* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Keith F. Lynch
|   `* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Gary McGath
|    `- Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Gary R. Schmidt
`* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Paul Dormer
 `* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Peter Trei
  +- Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Tim Merrigan
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  `* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Paul Dormer
   +* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Kevrob
   |+* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Alan Woodford
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   | +* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Keith F. Lynch
   | |`* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Kevrob
   | | `* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Keith F. Lynch
   | |  +* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Gary McGath
   | |  |`- Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Gary McGath
   | |  `* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Paul Dormer
   | |   `* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Keith F. Lynch
   | |    `- Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Paul Dormer
   | `* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Paul Dormer
   |  `* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Alan Woodford
   |   `* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Paul Dormer
   |    `* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Dorothy J Heydt
   |     +* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Paul Dormer
   |     |`* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Dorothy J Heydt
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   |     |  `* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Paul Dormer
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   |     |       |     `- Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Keith F. Lynch
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   |     `* Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))Tim Merrigan
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From: djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Subject: Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))
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In article <memo.20211026110920.11516A@pauldormer.cix.co.uk>,
Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <r1JK65.204y@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
>Heydt) wrote:
>
>> Oh, we have. Not surprisingly, it was the fault of a cat. Our
>> cropped-tailed Siamese, named Isolde for reasons that should be
>> obvious, liked to get as high up as the furniture would permit.
>> Where we were living at the time, that was on top of the
>> television, which was on top of some six-foot-high bookcases.
>
>How do cats cope with modern flat screen sets?

Carefully. During the past year, when our grandson was doing
seventh grade remotely, he had a Raspberry Pi and a flat screen
at Hal's elbow, in front of the only window in the room, where
the cats like to hang out anyway. They would occasionally manage
to climb the screen and balance precariously on top for a minute
or two.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 5:58:37 AM UTC-4, Gary McGath wrote:
> On 10/25/21 5:32 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> > Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
> >> Sounds confusing. What's the legal definition of a "TV set" in the UK?
> >> To me, the difference between a TV and a monitor is that a TV can
> >> receive RF broadcasts over the air. (I assume a tuner connected to a
> >> monitor would need a license too.) Does iPlayer need a license because
> >> you have to use a TV for it, or because it's from the BBC and thus
> >> defined as television?
> >
> > A TV set is a TV set because you can watch the BBC on it. If it is capable
> > of showing the BBC, then you pay a tax (which goes to operate the BBC). If
> > it is not capable of showing the BBC you do not need to pay a tax.
> A corporation that has the unique privilege to get the government to tax
> people on its behalf, while its competitors, if they're allowed at all,
> need to earn their money. Sounds so ... predictable.
> --
Auntie Beeb is, effectively, a government department. One wonders why it
isn't part of "The Ministry of Truth," along with the Anglican Church, the universities
and state-owned and operated primary and secondary schools.

We have a bit of that here in the states, but broken up into 50 different
"ministries."

--
Kevin R

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 08:49:11 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 5:58:37 AM UTC-4, Gary McGath wrote:
>> On 10/25/21 5:32 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>> > Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
>> >> Sounds confusing. What's the legal definition of a "TV set" in the UK?
>> >> To me, the difference between a TV and a monitor is that a TV can
>> >> receive RF broadcasts over the air. (I assume a tuner connected to a
>> >> monitor would need a license too.) Does iPlayer need a license because
>> >> you have to use a TV for it, or because it's from the BBC and thus
>> >> defined as television?
>> >
>> > A TV set is a TV set because you can watch the BBC on it. If it is capable
>> > of showing the BBC, then you pay a tax (which goes to operate the BBC). If
>> > it is not capable of showing the BBC you do not need to pay a tax.
>> A corporation that has the unique privilege to get the government to tax
>> people on its behalf, while its competitors, if they're allowed at all,
>> need to earn their money. Sounds so ... predictable.
>> --
>
>Auntie Beeb is, effectively, a government department. One wonders why it
>isn't part of "The Ministry of Truth," along with the Anglican Church, the universities
>and state-owned and operated primary and secondary schools.
>
>We have a bit of that here in the states, but broken up into 50 different
>"ministries."

Interesting that our "beloved government would" have us believe that the BBC
is the mouthpiece of the Labour party, while Labour seem to think it is the
Official Organ of the Tories...

It is certainly considerably less biased, in either direction, in my opinion,
than most American TV news seems to be!

Then again, that also seems to be true of their competition.

Alan Woodford

The Greying Lensman

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 11:09 +0100 (BST), prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul
Dormer) wrote:

>In article <r1JK65.204y@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
>Heydt) wrote:
>
>> Oh, we have. Not surprisingly, it was the fault of a cat. Our
>> cropped-tailed Siamese, named Isolde for reasons that should be
>> obvious, liked to get as high up as the furniture would permit.
>> Where we were living at the time, that was on top of the
>> television, which was on top of some six-foot-high bookcases.
>
>How do cats cope with modern flat screen sets?

They sometimes go behind them, when they're not mounted on a wall, and
sometimes under them, rubbing their scent glands against them (as they
do with everything in their environment). Otherwise, they ignore
them. I haven't had a cat try to sit on top of a TV or monitor since
I switched to flat screens.
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 by: Scott Dorsey - Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:09 UTC

Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
>On 10/25/21 11:50 AM, Paul Dormer wrote:
>> In article <sl6gu5$9cvm$1@memoryalpha.rosettacon.com>,
>> rkshullat@rosettacondot.com () wrote:
>>
>>> We've never had one fail, but since (roughly) 1999 we've gone from a
>> 35"
>>> CRT to a 46" 1080p LCD to a 60" 1080p LCD. If I were more confident in
>>> our Internet connectivity we'd probably get a 4K panel in the 80"
>> range.
>>
>> My current set is 49in. I believe. I wouldn't have room for anything
>> bigger.
>>
>
>My TV is tiny as modern sets go. On my list of things to replace, it's
>behind my car, computer, and electronic piano.

Here is a video of someone watching TV with a 72-inch monitor. It looks
very convenient: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bno-qsnbUA
--scott

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Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))

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 by: Peter Trei - Wed, 27 Oct 2021 14:51 UTC

On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 9:09:21 AM UTC-4, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
> >On 10/25/21 11:50 AM, Paul Dormer wrote:
> >> In article <sl6gu5$9cvm$1...@memoryalpha.rosettacon.com>,
> >> rksh...@rosettacondot.com () wrote:
> >>
> >>> We've never had one fail, but since (roughly) 1999 we've gone from a
> >> 35"
> >>> CRT to a 46" 1080p LCD to a 60" 1080p LCD. If I were more confident in
> >>> our Internet connectivity we'd probably get a 4K panel in the 80"
> >> range.
> >>
> >> My current set is 49in. I believe. I wouldn't have room for anything
> >> bigger.
> >>
> >
> >My TV is tiny as modern sets go. On my list of things to replace, it's
> >behind my car, computer, and electronic piano.
> Here is a video of someone watching TV with a 72-inch monitor. It looks
> very convenient: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bno-qsnbUA

Made me look :-)

pt

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Subject: Re: Ruthie Tompson (1910-2021) (was Re: Zhou Youguang (1906-2017))
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 by: Keith F. Lynch - Thu, 28 Oct 2021 02:48 UTC

Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
> How do cats cope with modern flat screen sets?

That depends on whether they're regular cats or flat cats. (Flat cats
are native to Mars in Heinlein's 1952 novel _The Rolling Stones_.)
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 by: Tim Merrigan - Fri, 29 Oct 2021 11:31 UTC

On 27 Oct 2021 13:09:20 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

>Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
>>On 10/25/21 11:50 AM, Paul Dormer wrote:
>>> In article <sl6gu5$9cvm$1@memoryalpha.rosettacon.com>,
>>> rkshullat@rosettacondot.com () wrote:
>>>
>>>> We've never had one fail, but since (roughly) 1999 we've gone from a
>>> 35"
>>>> CRT to a 46" 1080p LCD to a 60" 1080p LCD. If I were more confident in
>>>> our Internet connectivity we'd probably get a 4K panel in the 80"
>>> range.
>>>
>>> My current set is 49in. I believe. I wouldn't have room for anything
>>> bigger.
>>>
>>
>>My TV is tiny as modern sets go. On my list of things to replace, it's
>>behind my car, computer, and electronic piano.
>
>Here is a video of someone watching TV with a 72-inch monitor. It looks
>very convenient: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bno-qsnbUA
>--scott

That wasn't what I expected from the description.
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