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* Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)Adam H. Kerman
+- Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)Rhino
+* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)anim8rfsk
|`* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)Adam H. Kerman
| `* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)anim8rfsk
|  `* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)Adam H. Kerman
|   `* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)anim8rfsk
|    +* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)Rhino
|    |+* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)A Friend
|    ||+* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)Adam H. Kerman
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|    | +* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)A Friend
|    | |+* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)anim8rfsk
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|    | |`- Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)Adam H. Kerman
|    | +* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)Adam H. Kerman
|    | |+* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)A Friend
|    | ||+* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)Adam H. Kerman
|    | |||`- Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)A Friend
|    | ||`- Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)anim8rfsk
|    | |`* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)anim8rfsk
|    | | `- Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)Adam H. Kerman
|    | `* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)BTR1701
|    |  +* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)anim8rfsk
|    |  |`* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)BTR1701
|    |  | `- Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)anim8rfsk
|    |  `- Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)anim8rfsk
|    `* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)Adam H. Kerman
|     `- Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)anim8rfsk
+- Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)RichA
`* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)BTR1701
 +* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)Adam H. Kerman
 |`- Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)anim8rfsk
 `* Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)RichA
  `- Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)danny burstein

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Re: Blue Bloods "Old Friends" 1/7/2022 (spoilers)

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Sun, 9 Jan 2022 22:24 UTC

anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>On 2022-01-09 1:40 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> s
>>>>>>>>>> p
>>>>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>> l
>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> s
>>>>>>>>>> p
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> c
>>>>>>>>>> e

>>>>>>>>>. . .

>>>>>What if it's just a still of the actor in a photograph as set dressing?

>>>>That's a fun one, particularly if you apply it to non-actors. I'm
>>>>thinking here of the picture of Geronimo, a silent tribute to Nicholas
>>>>Colasanto (sp?) who played Coach in the first two seasons of Cheers.
>>>>That picture was up there for the rest of the series run. Do Geronimo's
>>>>descendants get money for that? (Should they?)

>>>I am pretty sure Geronimo is public domain. :-)

>>The photograph, sure. But can his estate require that use of his image
>>for endorsements be licensed?

>>>>. . .

>No. Especially since they missed a century or two between his death and
>now.

I figured there's some way to open an estate. After all, if someone
wants to exhume an ancient corpse to prove some criminal or
anthropoligical theory, it's possible to open an estate to find someone
to grant permission.

The whole thing is a scam so I figured someone found a way to put the
law to use in such a nefarious way.

>I'm pretty sure both Bogart and Wayne had it set up at the time of
>their demise. And even then I'm not really sure how they ever got away with
>it.

Perhaps you're right.

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 by: RichA - Sun, 9 Jan 2022 22:29 UTC

Frank sounded even more aged than his father in this ep.

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In article <srflv4$1qh$1@dont-email.me>, Adam H. Kerman
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> A Friend wrote:
> >Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> >>>>On 2022-01-09 1:40 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>
> >> >>>>>>>> s
> >> >>>>>>>> p
> >> >>>>>>>> o
> >> >>>>>>>> i
> >> >>>>>>>> l
> >> >>>>>>>> e
> >> >>>>>>>> r
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> s
> >> >>>>>>>> p
> >> >>>>>>>> a
> >> >>>>>>>> c
> >> >>>>>>>> e
>
> >>>>>>>>>. . .
>
> >>>>>What if it's just a still of the actor in a photograph as set dressing?
>
> >>>>That's a fun one, particularly if you apply it to non-actors. I'm
> >>>>thinking here of the picture of Geronimo, a silent tribute to Nicholas
> >>>>Colasanto (sp?) who played Coach in the first two seasons of Cheers.
> >>>>That picture was up there for the rest of the series run. Do Geronimo's
> >>>>descendants get money for that? (Should they?)
>
> >>>I am pretty sure Geronimo is public domain. :-)
>
> >>The photograph, sure. But can his estate require that use of his image
> >>for endorsements be licensed?
>
> >I don't think Geronimo has an estate looking out for his interests (no
> >hits anywhere), but since he's an historical personage, the estate
> >would have little recourse. It'd be like naming cars after Lincoln and
> >not having to pay anybody for it.
>
> Right, but we've discussed Humphrey Bogart and John Wayne endorsing
> products decades after their deaths. How far back can this crap go?

Endlessly, I think. Lincoln and Washington will be selling cars next
month.

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 by: BTR1701 - Mon, 10 Jan 2022 15:38 UTC

anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

>> On 2022-01-09 1:40 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>
>>> What if it’s just a still of the actor in a photograph as set dressing?
>>
>> That's a fun one, particularly if you apply it to non-actors. I'm
>> thinking here of the picture of Geronimo, a silent tribute to Nicholas
>> Colasanto (sp?) who played Coach in the first two seasons of Cheers.
>> That picture was up there for the rest of the series run. Do Geronimo's
>> descendants get money for that? (Should they?)
>
> I am pretty sure Geronimo is public domain. :-)

In the new movie DON'T LOOK UP, Meryl Streep plays the president and they
decorated the Oval Office with pictures of her with various celebrities and
politicians-- Steven Seagal, Bill Clinton, etc. They're obviously pictures
of her as herself, taken at various parties and awards ceremonies. But did
the people she was with in the pics get paid?

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 by: BTR1701 - Mon, 10 Jan 2022 15:38 UTC

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
> Lyle Lovett is back. He's a marshal, not DEA. He's been promoted.

He's a Texas Ranger.

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BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>>Lyle Lovett is back. He's a marshal, not DEA. He's been promoted.

>He's a Texas Ranger.

My error. I misheard the dialogue, then. US Marshal didn't make sense.

He sure seemed to have a lot of knowledge of their Mexican operations.

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 by: anim8rfsk - Mon, 10 Jan 2022 16:43 UTC

BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>
>>> On 2022-01-09 1:40 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>
>>>> What if it’s just a still of the actor in a photograph as set dressing?
>>>
>>> That's a fun one, particularly if you apply it to non-actors. I'm
>>> thinking here of the picture of Geronimo, a silent tribute to Nicholas
>>> Colasanto (sp?) who played Coach in the first two seasons of Cheers.
>>> That picture was up there for the rest of the series run. Do Geronimo's
>>> descendants get money for that? (Should they?)
>>
>> I am pretty sure Geronimo is public domain. :-)
>
> In the new movie DON'T LOOK UP, Meryl Streep plays the president and they
> decorated the Oval Office with pictures of her with various celebrities and
> politicians-- Steven Seagal, Bill Clinton, etc. They're obviously pictures
> of her as herself, taken at various parties and awards ceremonies. But did
> the people she was with in the pics get paid?
>

Steven Seagal?

--
“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”

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 by: anim8rfsk - Mon, 10 Jan 2022 16:43 UTC

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>>> Lyle Lovett is back. He's a marshal, not DEA. He's been promoted.
>
>> He's a Texas Ranger.
>
> My error. I misheard the dialogue, then. US Marshal didn't make sense.
>
> He sure seemed to have a lot of knowledge of their Mexican operations.
>

He was in charge of failing to stop them.

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 by: anim8rfsk - Mon, 10 Jan 2022 16:43 UTC

BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>
>>> On 2022-01-09 1:40 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>
>>>> What if it’s just a still of the actor in a photograph as set dressing?
>>>
>>> That's a fun one, particularly if you apply it to non-actors. I'm
>>> thinking here of the picture of Geronimo, a silent tribute to Nicholas
>>> Colasanto (sp?) who played Coach in the first two seasons of Cheers.
>>> That picture was up there for the rest of the series run. Do Geronimo's
>>> descendants get money for that? (Should they?)
>>
>> I am pretty sure Geronimo is public domain. :-)
>
> In the new movie DON'T LOOK UP, Meryl Streep plays the president and they
> decorated the Oval Office with pictures of her with various celebrities and
> politicians-- Steven Seagal, Bill Clinton, etc. They're obviously pictures
> of her as herself, taken at various parties and awards ceremonies. But did
> the people she was with in the pics get paid?
>

No, but the photographer may well have.

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 by: BTR1701 - Mon, 10 Jan 2022 17:53 UTC

anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> On 2022-01-09 1:40 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What if it’s just a still of the actor in a photograph as set dressing?
>>>>
>>>> That's a fun one, particularly if you apply it to non-actors. I'm
>>>> thinking here of the picture of Geronimo, a silent tribute to Nicholas
>>>> Colasanto (sp?) who played Coach in the first two seasons of Cheers.
>>>> That picture was up there for the rest of the series run. Do Geronimo's
>>>> descendants get money for that? (Should they?)
>>>
>>> I am pretty sure Geronimo is public domain. :-)
>>
>> In the new movie DON'T LOOK UP, Meryl Streep plays the president and they
>> decorated the Oval Office with pictures of her with various celebrities and
>> politicians-- Steven Seagal, Bill Clinton, etc. They're obviously pictures
>> of her as herself, taken at various parties and awards ceremonies. But did
>> the people she was with in the pics get paid?
>>
> Steven Seagal?

Yeah, and it wasn't "early badass Seagal", either. It was old, hippo-sized
lardass Seagal". It was supposed to be a joke, to make Streep's character
look ridiculous.

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 by: anim8rfsk - Mon, 10 Jan 2022 19:28 UTC

BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
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>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On 2022-01-09 1:40 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What if it’s just a still of the actor in a photograph as set dressing?
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a fun one, particularly if you apply it to non-actors. I'm
>>>>> thinking here of the picture of Geronimo, a silent tribute to Nicholas
>>>>> Colasanto (sp?) who played Coach in the first two seasons of Cheers.
>>>>> That picture was up there for the rest of the series run. Do Geronimo's
>>>>> descendants get money for that? (Should they?)
>>>>
>>>> I am pretty sure Geronimo is public domain. :-)
>>>
>>> In the new movie DON'T LOOK UP, Meryl Streep plays the president and they
>>> decorated the Oval Office with pictures of her with various celebrities and
>>> politicians-- Steven Seagal, Bill Clinton, etc. They're obviously pictures
>>> of her as herself, taken at various parties and awards ceremonies. But did
>>> the people she was with in the pics get paid?
>>>
>> Steven Seagal?
>
> Yeah, and it wasn't "early badass Seagal", either. It was old, hippo-sized
> lardass Seagal". It was supposed to be a joke, to make Streep's character
> look ridiculous.
>
>

Ah.
If I want Streep to look ridiculous I’ll just read some of her interviews.

Speaking of which, never read anything the star of Man-Delorean says off
screen.

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On Monday, 10 January 2022 at 10:38:44 UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
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> > Lyle Lovett is back. He's a marshal, not DEA. He's been promoted.
> He's a Texas Ranger.

He played some kind of agent in "Castle" too.

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 by: danny burstein - Tue, 11 Jan 2022 01:33 UTC

In <ca063847-d4fc-411c-b241-2cd03742a675n@googlegroups.com> RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> writes:

>On Monday, 10 January 2022 at 10:38:44 UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
>> Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Lyle Lovett is back. He's a marshal, not DEA. He's been promoted.
>> He's a Texas Ranger.

>He played some kind of agent in "Castle" too.

Thanks. I *knew* I remembered him in a similar
role but couldn't place it (and didn't want
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