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 by: Michael Pendragon - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 15:06 UTC

On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 10:55:49 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Appreciation of humor is relative, we don't all find the same things funny.

For instance: We all enjoy laughing at you, while all you do is whine about us in return.

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From: ashwurth...@gmail.com (Ash Wurthing)
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 by: Ash Wurthing - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 15:45 UTC

On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 11:06:13 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 10:55:49 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Appreciation of humor is relative, we don't all find the same things funny.
> For instance: We all enjoy laughing at you, while all you do is whine about us in return.

Ah, I don't laugh about his poetry-- that crap ain't a laughing matter but a crying shame! *(that also could be that it's that painful)

mr. comix Who's not Who, mr. "everyone obsesses over me",

And Will, if you were paying attention, you would have noticed that I also said that you "know all about" several time in my posts, like you knowing all about lying and misrepresenting in another post. Have some explain to you the informal use of the phrase...

"Jedi you are not, fool.
You, you haven't a clue."

Funny thing is, you apparently don't know too much about comics yourself, you didn't react the time when I offered you a Nightcrawler quote...

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 by: Will Dockery - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 16:36 UTC

On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 11:06:13 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 10:55:49 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
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> > Appreciation of humor is relative, we don't all find the same things funny.
> For instance: We all enjoy laughing at you

Yes guys are pretty amusing sometimes, as well.

Like the topic of the poem this thread features...

🙂

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 16:52 UTC

On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 12:36:52 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 11:06:13 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 10:55:49 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > Appreciation of humor is relative, we don't all find the same things funny.
> > For instance: We all enjoy laughing at you
> Yes guys are pretty amusing sometimes, as well.
>
> Like the topic of the poem this thread features...

The poem actually is dull and boring like Dance.
Plus, the person trying to make cash off his poetry and failing is you!

Perhaps people will like this fun poem instead:

GUESS WHO
I wiki the poetry like a smutty stud notary!
And proudly count the masses
coming to read others' poetry
While I call mine doggerel--
which is just irregular poesy
the uninitiated call it mongrel--
may I say that's merely done anecdotally--
because what do they know, those trolls!
I blog about "democracy" with such viral potency!
Pawning cogency for darkest conspiracy
for the reality seemingly fit
for what I deem worthy to print--
What does the news know? They're fakers!
Pawns! Media control purveyors!
And I will nastily tat every tit
of those low class raters I snipped,
all those jealous haters I list--
yes, I also maintain a list of dissed--
always checking it once, checking it twice
for those that I judge naughty or those I deem nice

You can thank PJR for the inspiration, especially that- list of haet was it? What's the matter? PJR isn't that great now?

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 by: Will Dockery - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 16:55 UTC

On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 10:18:10 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
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> A wannabe poet named Ash
> Thought writing could bring in some cash;
> But all of his verses
> Brought him only curses,
> And all of it went in the trash.
>
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> gjd

I don't care who you are, that's funny.

🙂

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 by: Will Dockery - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 17:08 UTC

On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 5:04:24 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-06-27 12:01 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 11:39:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>> On 2022-06-23 7:19 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:18:20 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:21:24 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'll grant you, it does fizzle out some near me end.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Most things would die if they were near your rear end.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That said, why didn't you make that comment in the first place, instead of seconding that it was excellent? It isn't excellent and needs work.. Did you read the poem?
> >>>>> He didn’t say die. He specifically said “fizzle out”. Pay attention. Words matter.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP said "die", "die" was directed at OP--
> >>> No, NG's comment was not directed at me. Are you trying to stir up trouble?
> >>
> >> He's not good for much else.
> >>
> >>>> as you say, words matter...
> >
> > You willy and your buddy, cannot read-- and you fools say you're so much superior than me!
> >
> > I told HC, so you fools had no right nosing in
> If you want to have private conversations, there's something called
> e-mail -- I suggest you learn about it, too.
> > as you always do with your trolling-- NG directed the comment at the author of the post that they were responding to.
> >
> No, that is not what you told HC. What you told HC was:
> 'Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP
> said "die", "die" was directed at OP--'
>
> I'm the OP in this thread.
>
> Terms matter, just like words do. Learn them.
> > George is the one trying to stir up trouble and cowardly pinning it on me.
> >
> At this point, if you weren't trying to stir up trouble, you'd
> apologize, and explain that you didn't know what "OP" meant. You aren't;
> therefore ...
> > Goddamned fuckwits, stupid shits, nasty ass trolling twits!
> Gee, where would anyone get the idea that you were trying to stir up
> trouble?
> > No wonder they're on Losenet, nothing can stop you from being losers here
> If usenet bothers you so much, you can always leave. It's not that hard;
> I know one guy here who's left dozens of times.

Well put, George.

Maybe Ash will see it and respond, this time.

🙂

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 17:30 UTC

On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 1:08:50 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 5:04:24 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-06-27 12:01 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 11:39:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>> On 2022-06-23 7:19 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > >>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> > >>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:18:20 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:21:24 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I'll grant you, it does fizzle out some near me end.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Most things would die if they were near your rear end.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> That said, why didn't you make that comment in the first place, instead of seconding that it was excellent? It isn't excellent and needs work. Did you read the poem?
> > >>>>> He didn’t say die. He specifically said “fizzle out”. Pay attention. Words matter.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP said "die", "die" was directed at OP--
> > >>> No, NG's comment was not directed at me. Are you trying to stir up trouble?
> > >>
> > >> He's not good for much else.
> > >>
> > >>>> as you say, words matter...
> > >
> > > You willy and your buddy, cannot read-- and you fools say you're so much superior than me!
> > >
> > > I told HC, so you fools had no right nosing in
> > If you want to have private conversations, there's something called
> > e-mail -- I suggest you learn about it, too.
> > > as you always do with your trolling-- NG directed the comment at the author of the post that they were responding to.
> > >
> > No, that is not what you told HC. What you told HC was:
> > 'Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP
> > said "die", "die" was directed at OP--'
> >
> > I'm the OP in this thread.
> >
> > Terms matter, just like words do. Learn them.
> > > George is the one trying to stir up trouble and cowardly pinning it on me.
> > >
> > At this point, if you weren't trying to stir up trouble, you'd
> > apologize, and explain that you didn't know what "OP" meant. You aren't;
> > therefore ...
> > > Goddamned fuckwits, stupid shits, nasty ass trolling twits!
> > Gee, where would anyone get the idea that you were trying to stir up
> > trouble?
> > > No wonder they're on Losenet, nothing can stop you from being losers here
> > If usenet bothers you so much, you can always leave. It's not that hard;
> > I know one guy here who's left dozens of times.
>
> Well put, George.
>
> Maybe Ash will see it and respond, this time.

I'm sorry, George, but I'm going to have to report this thread as spam.

As you can see from the above, Will Donkey is repeatedly using it in an attempt to troll Ash into an argument.

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 by: Will Dockery - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 17:40 UTC

On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 1:30:56 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 1:08:50 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 5:04:24 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > On 2022-06-27 12:01 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 11:39:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > >>> On 2022-06-23 7:19 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > >>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> > > >>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:18:20 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > >>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:21:24 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I'll grant you, it does fizzle out some near me end.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Most things would die if they were near your rear end.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> That said, why didn't you make that comment in the first place, instead of seconding that it was excellent? It isn't excellent and needs work. Did you read the poem?
> > > >>>>> He didn’t say die. He specifically said “fizzle out”. Pay attention. Words matter.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP said "die", "die" was directed at OP--
> > > >>> No, NG's comment was not directed at me. Are you trying to stir up trouble?
> > > >>
> > > >> He's not good for much else.
> > > >>
> > > >>>> as you say, words matter...
> > > >
> > > > You willy and your buddy, cannot read-- and you fools say you're so much superior than me!
> > > >
> > > > I told HC, so you fools had no right nosing in
> > > If you want to have private conversations, there's something called
> > > e-mail -- I suggest you learn about it, too.
> > > > as you always do with your trolling-- NG directed the comment at the author of the post that they were responding to.
> > > >
> > > No, that is not what you told HC. What you told HC was:
> > > 'Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP
> > > said "die", "die" was directed at OP--'
> > >
> > > I'm the OP in this thread.
> > >
> > > Terms matter, just like words do. Learn them.
> > > > George is the one trying to stir up trouble and cowardly pinning it on me.
> > > >
> > > At this point, if you weren't trying to stir up trouble, you'd
> > > apologize, and explain that you didn't know what "OP" meant. You aren't;
> > > therefore ...
> > > > Goddamned fuckwits, stupid shits, nasty ass trolling twits!
> > > Gee, where would anyone get the idea that you were trying to stir up
> > > trouble?
> > > > No wonder they're on Losenet, nothing can stop you from being losers here
> > > If usenet bothers you so much, you can always leave. It's not that hard;
> > > I know one guy here who's left dozens of times.
> >
> > Well put, George.
> >
> > Maybe Ash will see it and respond, this time.
> I'm sorry, George, but I'm going to have to report this thread as spam

Again, good riddance.

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 17:49 UTC

On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 1:30:56 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 1:08:50 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 5:04:24 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > On 2022-06-27 12:01 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 11:39:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > >>> On 2022-06-23 7:19 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > >>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> > > >>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:18:20 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > >>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:21:24 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I'll grant you, it does fizzle out some near me end.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Most things would die if they were near your rear end.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> That said, why didn't you make that comment in the first place, instead of seconding that it was excellent? It isn't excellent and needs work. Did you read the poem?
> > > >>>>> He didn’t say die. He specifically said “fizzle out”. Pay attention. Words matter.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP said "die", "die" was directed at OP--
> > > >>> No, NG's comment was not directed at me. Are you trying to stir up trouble?
> > > >>
> > > >> He's not good for much else.
> > > >>
> > > >>>> as you say, words matter...
> > > >
> > > > You willy and your buddy, cannot read-- and you fools say you're so much superior than me!
> > > >
> > > > I told HC, so you fools had no right nosing in
> > > If you want to have private conversations, there's something called
> > > e-mail -- I suggest you learn about it, too.
> > > > as you always do with your trolling-- NG directed the comment at the author of the post that they were responding to.
> > > >
> > > No, that is not what you told HC. What you told HC was:
> > > 'Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP
> > > said "die", "die" was directed at OP--'
> > >
> > > I'm the OP in this thread.
> > >
> > > Terms matter, just like words do. Learn them.
> > > > George is the one trying to stir up trouble and cowardly pinning it on me.
> > > >
> > > At this point, if you weren't trying to stir up trouble, you'd
> > > apologize, and explain that you didn't know what "OP" meant. You aren't;
> > > therefore ...
> > > > Goddamned fuckwits, stupid shits, nasty ass trolling twits!
> > > Gee, where would anyone get the idea that you were trying to stir up
> > > trouble?
> > > > No wonder they're on Losenet, nothing can stop you from being losers here
> > > If usenet bothers you so much, you can always leave. It's not that hard;
> > > I know one guy here who's left dozens of times.
> >
> > Well put, George.
> >
> > Maybe Ash will see it and respond, this time.
> I'm sorry, George, but I'm going to have to report this thread as spam.
>
> As you can see from the above, Will Donkey is repeatedly using it in an attempt to troll Ash into an argument.

Yep, just like Will and Zod are using George Dance's attack poems on Rochester (Usenet Greatest Poet) (Senetto and Senility) and Burrows (Bobby Burro) to troll them for a month now. The Burro thread was created Jun 2nd.
Burrows went radio silent and Will and Zod cannot stop using the thread to attack Burrows. It's now obvious that they will troll people till they drive them from the group like George stated about someone leaving several times.
I like how they keep bumping the threads to make it look like George Dance is constantly trolling people in the group.

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Ash Wurthing wrote:

> On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 1:30:56 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 1:08:50 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 5:04:24 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > > On 2022-06-27 12:01 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> > > > On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 11:39:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > >> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > > >>> On 2022-06-23 7:19 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> > > >>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
>> > > >>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:18:20 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
>> > > >>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:21:24 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> I'll grant you, it does fizzle out some near me end.
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Most things would die if they were near your rear end.
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> That said, why didn't you make that comment in the first place, instead of seconding that it was excellent? It isn't excellent and needs work. Did you read the poem?
>> > > >>>>> He didn’t say die. He specifically said “fizzle out”. Pay attention. Words matter.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP said "die", "die" was directed at OP--
>> > > >>> No, NG's comment was not directed at me. Are you trying to stir up trouble?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> He's not good for much else.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>>> as you say, words matter...
>> > > >
>> > > > You willy and your buddy, cannot read-- and you fools say you're so much superior than me!
>> > > >
>> > > > I told HC, so you fools had no right nosing in
>> > > If you want to have private conversations, there's something called
>> > > e-mail -- I suggest you learn about it, too.
>> > > > as you always do with your trolling-- NG directed the comment at the author of the post that they were responding to.
>> > > >
>> > > No, that is not what you told HC. What you told HC was:
>> > > 'Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP
>> > > said "die", "die" was directed at OP--'
>> > >
>> > > I'm the OP in this thread.
>> > >
>> > > Terms matter, just like words do. Learn them.
>> > > > George is the one trying to stir up trouble and cowardly pinning it on me.
>> > > >
>> > > At this point, if you weren't trying to stir up trouble, you'd
>> > > apologize, and explain that you didn't know what "OP" meant. You aren't;
>> > > therefore ...
>> > > > Goddamned fuckwits, stupid shits, nasty ass trolling twits!
>> > > Gee, where would anyone get the idea that you were trying to stir up
>> > > trouble?
>> > > > No wonder they're on Losenet, nothing can stop you from being losers here
>> > > If usenet bothers you so much, you can always leave. It's not that hard;
>> > > I know one guy here who's left dozens of times.
>> >
>> > Well put, George.
>> >
>> > Maybe Ash will see it and respond, this time.
>> I'm sorry, George, but I'm going to have to report this thread as spam.
>>
>> As you can see from the above, Will Donkey is repeatedly using it in an attempt to troll Ash into an argument.

> Yep, just like Will and Zod are using

We're not the only ones posting here, Ash.

If you really wanted it to stop you'd quit whining about every post.

HTH and HAND.

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Ash Wurthing wrote:

>

> Funny thing is, you apparently don't know too much about comics yourself, you didn't react the time when I offered you a Nightcrawler quote...

I'm not the one who claimed to know "all about comics", either.

That was you, Ash.

:)

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 by: Victor H. - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 20:30 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 5:04:24 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> On 2022-06-27 12:01 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> > On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 11:39:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >>> On 2022-06-23 7:19 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> >>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
>> >>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:18:20 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
>> >>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:21:24 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I'll grant you, it does fizzle out some near me end.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Most things would die if they were near your rear end.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> That said, why didn't you make that comment in the first place, instead of seconding that it was excellent? It isn't excellent and needs work.. Did you read the poem?
>> >>>>> He didn’t say die. He specifically said “fizzle out”. Pay attention. Words matter.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP said "die", "die" was directed at OP--
>> >>> No, NG's comment was not directed at me. Are you trying to stir up trouble?
>> >>
>> >> He's not good for much else.
>> >>
>> >>>> as you say, words matter...
>> >
>> > You willy and your buddy, cannot read-- and you fools say you're so much superior than me!
>> >
>> > I told HC, so you fools had no right nosing in
>> If you want to have private conversations, there's something called
>> e-mail -- I suggest you learn about it, too.
>> > as you always do with your trolling-- NG directed the comment at the author of the post that they were responding to.
>> >
>> No, that is not what you told HC. What you told HC was:
>> 'Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP
>> said "die", "die" was directed at OP--'
>>
>> I'm the OP in this thread.
>>
>> Terms matter, just like words do. Learn them.
>> > George is the one trying to stir up trouble and cowardly pinning it on me.
>> >
>> At this point, if you weren't trying to stir up trouble, you'd
>> apologize, and explain that you didn't know what "OP" meant. You aren't;
>> therefore ...
>> > Goddamned fuckwits, stupid shits, nasty ass trolling twits!
>> Gee, where would anyone get the idea that you were trying to stir up
>> trouble?
>> > No wonder they're on Losenet, nothing can stop you from being losers here
>> If usenet bothers you so much, you can always leave. It's not that hard;
>> I know one guy here who's left dozens of times.

> Well put, George.

> Maybe Ash will see it and respond, this time.

I take is that Ash is avoiding that for some reason...

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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 2 Jul 2022 02:25 UTC

On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 4:35:16 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 5:04:24 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-06-27 12:01 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >> > On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 11:39:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> >>> On 2022-06-23 7:19 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >> >>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> >> >>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:18:20 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> >> >>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:21:24 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> I'll grant you, it does fizzle out some near me end.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Most things would die if they were near your rear end.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> That said, why didn't you make that comment in the first place, instead of seconding that it was excellent? It isn't excellent and needs work.. Did you read the poem?
> >> >>>>> He didn’t say die. He specifically said “fizzle out”. Pay attention. Words matter.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP said "die", "die" was directed at OP--
> >> >>> No, NG's comment was not directed at me. Are you trying to stir up trouble?
> >> >>
> >> >> He's not good for much else.
> >> >>
> >> >>>> as you say, words matter...
> >> >
> >> > You willy and your buddy, cannot read-- and you fools say you're so much superior than me!
> >> >
> >> > I told HC, so you fools had no right nosing in
> >> If you want to have private conversations, there's something called
> >> e-mail -- I suggest you learn about it, too.
> >> > as you always do with your trolling-- NG directed the comment at the author of the post that they were responding to.
> >> >
> >> No, that is not what you told HC. What you told HC was:
> >> 'Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP
> >> said "die", "die" was directed at OP--'
> >>
> >> I'm the OP in this thread.
> >>
> >> Terms matter, just like words do. Learn them.
> >> > George is the one trying to stir up trouble and cowardly pinning it on me.
> >> >
> >> At this point, if you weren't trying to stir up trouble, you'd
> >> apologize, and explain that you didn't know what "OP" meant. You aren't;
> >> therefore ...
> >> > Goddamned fuckwits, stupid shits, nasty ass trolling twits!
> >> Gee, where would anyone get the idea that you were trying to stir up
> >> trouble?
> >> > No wonder they're on Losenet, nothing can stop you from being losers here
> >> If usenet bothers you so much, you can always leave. It's not that hard;
> >> I know one guy here who's left dozens of times.
>
> > Well put, George.
>
> > Maybe Ash will see it and respond, this time.
> I take is that Ash is avoiding that for some reason...

Apparently so.

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On 2022-07-01 10:25 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 4:35:16 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 5:04:24 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> On 2022-06-27 12:01 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 11:39:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2022-06-23 7:19 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:18:20 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:21:24 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll grant you, it does fizzle out some near me end.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Most things would die if they were near your rear end.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That said, why didn't you make that comment in the first place, instead of seconding that it was excellent? It isn't excellent and needs work.. Did you read the poem?
>>>>>>>>> He didn’t say die. He specifically said “fizzle out”. Pay attention. Words matter.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP said "die", "die" was directed at OP--
>>>>>>> No, NG's comment was not directed at me. Are you trying to stir up trouble?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He's not good for much else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> as you say, words matter...
>>>>>
>>>>> You willy and your buddy, cannot read-- and you fools say you're so much superior than me!
>>>>>
>>>>> I told HC, so you fools had no right nosing in
>>>> If you want to have private conversations, there's something called
>>>> e-mail -- I suggest you learn about it, too.
>>>>> as you always do with your trolling-- NG directed the comment at the author of the post that they were responding to.
>>>>>
>>>> No, that is not what you told HC. What you told HC was:
>>>> 'Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP
>>>> said "die", "die" was directed at OP--'
>>>>
>>>> I'm the OP in this thread.
>>>>
>>>> Terms matter, just like words do. Learn them.
>>>>> George is the one trying to stir up trouble and cowardly pinning it on me.
>>>>>
>>>> At this point, if you weren't trying to stir up trouble, you'd
>>>> apologize, and explain that you didn't know what "OP" meant. You aren't;
>>>> therefore ...
>>>>> Goddamned fuckwits, stupid shits, nasty ass trolling twits!
>>>> Gee, where would anyone get the idea that you were trying to stir up
>>>> trouble?
>>>>> No wonder they're on Losenet, nothing can stop you from being losers here
>>>> If usenet bothers you so much, you can always leave. It's not that hard;
>>>> I know one guy here who's left dozens of times.
>>
>>> Well put, George.
>>
>>> Maybe Ash will see it and respond, this time.
>> I take is that Ash is avoiding that for some reason...
>
> Apparently so.

I think this has become another "sleeping dog" (like the one I just
wrote about on the Obama thread), and in this case I'm quite content to
let it slumber.

There doesn't seem to be any lying or misrepresentation here, just a
misunderstanding over what an "Original Poster" was - Ash seemed to
think it meant the person to whom the post he and Corey were discussing
was a reply (rather than the person who made the first post in the thread).

Which is understandable; there's no generally available glossary of
terms -- perhaps there should be, if and when we do produce a current
FAQ -- and people who come here have to figure them out from seeing them
used. I'm sure we've all got some wrong; when it happens, it can be
embarrassing, but I don't thnk it's not worth making enough noise to
wake this particular dog up.

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Sat, 2 Jul 2022 11:53 UTC

On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 6:12:05 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-07-01 10:25 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 4:35:16 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 5:04:24 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-06-27 12:01 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 11:39:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 2022-06-23 7:19 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:18:20 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:21:24 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll grant you, it does fizzle out some near me end.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Most things would die if they were near your rear end.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> That said, why didn't you make that comment in the first place, instead of seconding that it was excellent? It isn't excellent and needs work.. Did you read the poem?
> >>>>>>>>> He didn’t say die. He specifically said “fizzle out”. Pay attention. Words matter.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP said "die", "die" was directed at OP--
> >>>>>>> No, NG's comment was not directed at me. Are you trying to stir up trouble?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> He's not good for much else.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> as you say, words matter...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You willy and your buddy, cannot read-- and you fools say you're so much superior than me!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I told HC, so you fools had no right nosing in
> >>>> If you want to have private conversations, there's something called
> >>>> e-mail -- I suggest you learn about it, too.
> >>>>> as you always do with your trolling-- NG directed the comment at the author of the post that they were responding to.
> >>>>>
> >>>> No, that is not what you told HC. What you told HC was:
> >>>> 'Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP
> >>>> said "die", "die" was directed at OP--'
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm the OP in this thread.
> >>>>
> >>>> Terms matter, just like words do. Learn them.
> >>>>> George is the one trying to stir up trouble and cowardly pinning it on me.
> >>>>>
> >>>> At this point, if you weren't trying to stir up trouble, you'd
> >>>> apologize, and explain that you didn't know what "OP" meant. You aren't;
> >>>> therefore ...
> >>>>> Goddamned fuckwits, stupid shits, nasty ass trolling twits!
> >>>> Gee, where would anyone get the idea that you were trying to stir up
> >>>> trouble?
> >>>>> No wonder they're on Losenet, nothing can stop you from being losers here
> >>>> If usenet bothers you so much, you can always leave. It's not that hard;
> >>>> I know one guy here who's left dozens of times.
> >>
> >>> Well put, George.
> >>
> >>> Maybe Ash will see it and respond, this time.
> >> I take is that Ash is avoiding that for some reason...
> >
> > Apparently so.
> I think this has become another "sleeping dog" (like the one I just
> wrote about on the Obama thread), and in this case I'm quite content to
> let it slumber.
>
> There doesn't seem to be any lying or misrepresentation here, just a
> misunderstanding over what an "Original Poster" was - Ash seemed to
> think it meant the person to whom the post he and Corey were discussing
> was a reply (rather than the person who made the first post in the thread).
>
> Which is understandable; there's no generally available glossary of
> terms -- perhaps there should be, if and when we do produce a current
> FAQ -- and people who come here have to figure them out from seeing them
> used. I'm sure we've all got some wrong; when it happens, it can be
> embarrassing, but I don't thnk it's not worth making enough noise to
> wake this particular dog up.

I didn't know there was further discussion about this-- I should pay more attention. The confusion was caused by me, I know "OP" from before Netspeak-- "other person" if I don't wish, like being lazy, to say the third party's name. But regardless, the context and quote section shown exactly what I meant. The person I was responding to, HC, knew what I meant but those intruding into our exchange didn't seem to care. If people want to to fixate on it, who am I to ruin there trolling obsession? Who am I to deprive them of what they so desperately need-- for me it's not an very exciting obsession or profitable profession- but merely the digression of a hobby.

Fools shoulda left sleeping dogs alone
Now I'm back in control, back in my zone
So bring me my thorn crown and my throne

All those sounds of war and wounds
they still haunt, they still ache
as omens that the end to all feuds
is just a last breath of suffering,
a last desperation that concludes
every futile struggle laid to rest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfv19wxbAdE

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On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 6:12:05 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-07-01 10:25 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 4:35:16 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 5:04:24 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-06-27 12:01 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 11:39:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 2022-06-23 7:19 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:18:20 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:21:24 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll grant you, it does fizzle out some near me end.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Most things would die if they were near your rear end.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> That said, why didn't you make that comment in the first place, instead of seconding that it was excellent? It isn't excellent and needs work.. Did you read the poem?
> >>>>>>>>> He didn’t say die. He specifically said “fizzle out”. Pay attention. Words matter.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP said "die", "die" was directed at OP--
> >>>>>>> No, NG's comment was not directed at me. Are you trying to stir up trouble?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> He's not good for much else.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> as you say, words matter...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You willy and your buddy, cannot read-- and you fools say you're so much superior than me!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I told HC, so you fools had no right nosing in
> >>>> If you want to have private conversations, there's something called
> >>>> e-mail -- I suggest you learn about it, too.
> >>>>> as you always do with your trolling-- NG directed the comment at the author of the post that they were responding to.
> >>>>>
> >>>> No, that is not what you told HC. What you told HC was:
> >>>> 'Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP
> >>>> said "die", "die" was directed at OP--'
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm the OP in this thread.
> >>>>
> >>>> Terms matter, just like words do. Learn them.
> >>>>> George is the one trying to stir up trouble and cowardly pinning it on me.
> >>>>>
> >>>> At this point, if you weren't trying to stir up trouble, you'd
> >>>> apologize, and explain that you didn't know what "OP" meant. You aren't;
> >>>> therefore ...
> >>>>> Goddamned fuckwits, stupid shits, nasty ass trolling twits!
> >>>> Gee, where would anyone get the idea that you were trying to stir up
> >>>> trouble?
> >>>>> No wonder they're on Losenet, nothing can stop you from being losers here
> >>>> If usenet bothers you so much, you can always leave. It's not that hard;
> >>>> I know one guy here who's left dozens of times.
> >>
> >>> Well put, George.
> >>
> >>> Maybe Ash will see it and respond, this time.
> >> I take is that Ash is avoiding that for some reason...
> >
> > Apparently so.
> I think this has become another "sleeping dog" (like the one I just
> wrote about on the Obama thread), and in this case I'm quite content to
> let it slumber.
>
> There doesn't seem to be any lying or misrepresentation here, just a
> misunderstanding over what an "Original Poster" was - Ash seemed to
> think it meant the person to whom the post he and Corey were discussing
> was a reply (rather than the person who made the first post in the thread).
>
> Which is understandable; there's no generally available glossary of
> terms -- perhaps there should be, if and when we do produce a current
> FAQ -- and people who come here have to figure them out from seeing them
> used. I'm sure we've all got some wrong; when it happens, it can be
> embarrassing, but I don't thnk it's not worth making enough noise to
> wake this particular dog up.

Yes, "OB poem" is another Usenet term which has been discussed many times.

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On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 7:53:03 AM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 6:12:05 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-07-01 10:25 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 4:35:16 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> Will Dockery wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 5:04:24 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>>> On 2022-06-27 12:01 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > >>>>> On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 11:39:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On 2022-06-23 7:19 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:18:20 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:21:24 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I'll grant you, it does fizzle out some near me end.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Most things would die if they were near your rear end.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> That said, why didn't you make that comment in the first place, instead of seconding that it was excellent? It isn't excellent and needs work.. Did you read the poem?
> > >>>>>>>>> He didn’t say die. He specifically said “fizzle out”. Pay attention. Words matter.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP said "die", "die" was directed at OP--
> > >>>>>>> No, NG's comment was not directed at me. Are you trying to stir up trouble?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> He's not good for much else.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> as you say, words matter...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> You willy and your buddy, cannot read-- and you fools say you're so much superior than me!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I told HC, so you fools had no right nosing in
> > >>>> If you want to have private conversations, there's something called
> > >>>> e-mail -- I suggest you learn about it, too.
> > >>>>> as you always do with your trolling-- NG directed the comment at the author of the post that they were responding to.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> No, that is not what you told HC. What you told HC was:
> > >>>> 'Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP
> > >>>> said "die", "die" was directed at OP--'
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm the OP in this thread.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Terms matter, just like words do. Learn them.
> > >>>>> George is the one trying to stir up trouble and cowardly pinning it on me.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> At this point, if you weren't trying to stir up trouble, you'd
> > >>>> apologize, and explain that you didn't know what "OP" meant. You aren't;
> > >>>> therefore ...
> > >>>>> Goddamned fuckwits, stupid shits, nasty ass trolling twits!
> > >>>> Gee, where would anyone get the idea that you were trying to stir up
> > >>>> trouble?
> > >>>>> No wonder they're on Losenet, nothing can stop you from being losers here
> > >>>> If usenet bothers you so much, you can always leave. It's not that hard;
> > >>>> I know one guy here who's left dozens of times.
> > >>
> > >>> Well put, George.
> > >>
> > >>> Maybe Ash will see it and respond, this time.
> > >> I take is that Ash is avoiding that for some reason...
> > >
> > > Apparently so.
> > I think this has become another "sleeping dog" (like the one I just
> > wrote about on the Obama thread), and in this case I'm quite content to
> > let it slumber.
> >
> > There doesn't seem to be any lying or misrepresentation here, just a
> > misunderstanding over what an "Original Poster" was - Ash seemed to
> > think it meant the person to whom the post he and Corey were discussing
> > was a reply (rather than the person who made the first post in the thread).
> >
> > Which is understandable; there's no generally available glossary of
> > terms -- perhaps there should be, if and when we do produce a current
> > FAQ -- and people who come here have to figure them out from seeing them
> > used. I'm sure we've all got some wrong; when it happens, it can be
> > embarrassing, but I don't thnk it's not worth making enough noise to
> > wake this particular dog up.
> I didn't know there was further discussion about this-- I should pay more attention. The confusion was caused by me, I know "OP" from before Netspeak-- "other person" if I don't wish, like being lazy, to say the third party's name. But regardless, the context and quote section shown exactly what I meant. The person I was responding to, HC, knew what I meant but those intruding into our exchange didn't seem to care. If people want to to fixate on it, who am I to ruin there trolling obsession? Who am I to deprive them of what they so desperately need-- for me it's not an very exciting obsession or profitable profession- but merely the digression of a hobby.
>
> Fools shoulda left sleeping dogs alone
> Now I'm back in control, back in my zone
> So bring me my thorn crown and my throne
>
> All those sounds of war and wounds
> they still haunt, they still ache
> as omens that the end to all feuds
> is just a last breath of suffering,
> a last desperation that concludes
> every futile struggle laid to rest
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfv19wxbAdE

I am not apart of this discussion. Never mind me.

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On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 7:53:03 AM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 6:12:05 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-07-01 10:25 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 4:35:16 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> Will Dockery wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 5:04:24 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>>> On 2022-06-27 12:01 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > >>>>> On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 11:39:14 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On 2022-06-23 7:19 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:54:41 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:18:20 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:21:24 AM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I'll grant you, it does fizzle out some near me end.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Most things would die if they were near your rear end.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> That said, why didn't you make that comment in the first place, instead of seconding that it was excellent? It isn't excellent and needs work.. Did you read the poem?
> > >>>>>>>>> He didn’t say die. He specifically said “fizzle out”. Pay attention. Words matter.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP said "die", "die" was directed at OP--
> > >>>>>>> No, NG's comment was not directed at me. Are you trying to stir up trouble?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> He's not good for much else.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> as you say, words matter...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> You willy and your buddy, cannot read-- and you fools say you're so much superior than me!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I told HC, so you fools had no right nosing in
> > >>>> If you want to have private conversations, there's something called
> > >>>> e-mail -- I suggest you learn about it, too.
> > >>>>> as you always do with your trolling-- NG directed the comment at the author of the post that they were responding to.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> No, that is not what you told HC. What you told HC was:
> > >>>> 'Why don't you pay attention to what they said, they didn't say that OP
> > >>>> said "die", "die" was directed at OP--'
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm the OP in this thread.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Terms matter, just like words do. Learn them.
> > >>>>> George is the one trying to stir up trouble and cowardly pinning it on me.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> At this point, if you weren't trying to stir up trouble, you'd
> > >>>> apologize, and explain that you didn't know what "OP" meant. You aren't;
> > >>>> therefore ...
> > >>>>> Goddamned fuckwits, stupid shits, nasty ass trolling twits!
> > >>>> Gee, where would anyone get the idea that you were trying to stir up
> > >>>> trouble?
> > >>>>> No wonder they're on Losenet, nothing can stop you from being losers here
> > >>>> If usenet bothers you so much, you can always leave. It's not that hard;
> > >>>> I know one guy here who's left dozens of times.
> > >>
> > >>> Well put, George.
> > >>
> > >>> Maybe Ash will see it and respond, this time.
> > >> I take is that Ash is avoiding that for some reason...
> > >
> > > Apparently so.
> > I think this has become another "sleeping dog" (like the one I just
> > wrote about on the Obama thread), and in this case I'm quite content to
> > let it slumber.
> >
> > There doesn't seem to be any lying or misrepresentation here, just a
> > misunderstanding over what an "Original Poster" was - Ash seemed to
> > think it meant the person to whom the post he and Corey were discussing
> > was a reply (rather than the person who made the first post in the thread).
> >
> > Which is understandable; there's no generally available glossary of
> > terms -- perhaps there should be, if and when we do produce a current
> > FAQ -- and people who come here have to figure them out from seeing them
> > used. I'm sure we've all got some wrong; when it happens, it can be
> > embarrassing, but I don't thnk it's not worth making enough noise to
> > wake this particular dog up.
> I didn't know there was further discussion about this-- I should pay more attention. The confusion was caused by me, I know "OP" from before Netspeak-- "other person" if I don't wish, like being lazy, to say the third party's name.

Yes, which brings to mind an old favorite from the early Hip Hop era:

OPP / Naughty By Nature
https://youtu.be/idx3GSL2KWs

But regardless, the context and quote section shown exactly what I meant. The person I was responding to, HC, knew what I meant but those intruding into our exchange didn't seem to care. If people want to to fixate on it, who am I to ruin there trolling obsession? Who am I to deprive them of what they so desperately need-- for me it's not an very exciting obsession or profitable profession- but merely the digression of a hobby.
>
> Fools shoulda left sleeping dogs alone
> Now I'm back in control, back in my zone
> So bring me my thorn crown and my throne
>
> All those sounds of war and wounds
> they still haunt, they still ache
> as omens that the end to all feuds
> is just a last breath of suffering,
> a last desperation that concludes
> every futile struggle laid to rest
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfv19wxbAdE

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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 2 Jul 2022 19:15 UTC

On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 8:58:52 PM UTC-4, fake Conley Brothers forged:
> On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 12:55:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 10:18:10 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >
> > > A wannabe poet named Ash
> > > Thought writing could bring in some cash;
> > > But all of his verses
> > > Brought him only curses,
> > > And all of it went in the trash.
> > >
> > >
> > > gjd
> > I don't care who you are, that's funny.
> >
>
> Even funnier is Dunce taking all that time rewriting the crap you claim is poetry

So you claim to have actually read my book?

🙂

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Too late AAPC uncool kids...
Who woke up the sleeping dogs, got 'em all worked up with trollin' n running amuck? Well, we all know who. Every day- you know who, and in every way- yeah, you know that who's who...

"Well, the party was nice, the party was pumpin'
Yippie yi yo
And everybody havin' a ball
Yippie yi yo
I tell the fellas start the name callin'
Yippie yi yo
And the girls respond to the call
I heard a woman shout out
Who let the dogs out?
Who, who, who, who, who?"
"Who Let The Dogs Out" ~~Baha Men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkuu0Lwb5EM

Now, to create a "Dockery and Narcissism" thread

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On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 8:13:40 AM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> Too late AAPC uncool kids...
> Who woke up the sleeping dogs, got 'em all worked up with trollin' n running amuck? Well, we all know who. Every day- you know who, and in every way- yeah, you know that who's who...
>
> "Well, the party was nice, the party was pumpin'
> Yippie yi yo
> And everybody havin' a ball
> Yippie yi yo
> I tell the fellas start the name callin'
> Yippie yi yo
> And the girls respond to the call
> I heard a woman shout out
> Who let the dogs out?
> Who, who, who, who, who?"
> "Who Let The Dogs Out" ~~Baha Men
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkuu0Lwb5EM
>
> Now, to create a "Dockery and Narcissism" thread

A MIDSUMMER'S NIGHT SPAM SPREE
(whim revised friendly remix)
[whipping boys chorus]:
Let us dance about the mushroom ring
Magic they appear- just like acid dots, we hear
And like fine fae folk, we'll dance merrily
Circling with nodding and bumping mischievously
Mindlessly repeating greetings and label flinging
Victoriously, we'll sashay away to the Shadowy-Village
Where they sing of dead beaten glory day memories
Where we'll celebrate our imagined victories
While listening to tales of North Cankook lore

[Ash's villain entrance]:
I, son of Melinoe, of the black and white
Such a frightening sight and full of fight
From undreamt of mountain halls I hail
I come mercilessly to assail and to flail
Fools, to rain upon their LAMe parades
To crash and burn their troll crusades
Face me you cowardly droll deflectors!
Premature victory exclamation projectors!!
You crybullying Ginsbuggering jesters!!!
YES, MAKE HASTE WITH THEE
'FORE I MAKE PASTE OF THEE!!!

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 by: Victor H. - Wed, 6 Jul 2022 21:13 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 8:58:52 PM UTC-4, fake Conley Brothers forged:
>> On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 12:55:17 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 10:18:10 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > >
>> > > A wannabe poet named Ash
>> > > Thought writing could bring in some cash;
>> > > But all of his verses
>> > > Brought him only curses,
>> > > And all of it went in the trash.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > gjd
>> > I don't care who you are, that's funny.
>> >
>>
>> Even funnier is Dunce taking all that time rewriting the crap you claim is poetry

> So you claim to have actually read my book?

Ha ha ha ha ha....!

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 by: George J. Dance - Fri, 8 Jul 2022 02:21 UTC

On 2022-07-01 6:53 a.m., W-Dockery wrote:
> Rocky Rhodan wrote:
>
>> George J. Dance wrote:
>
>>> On 2022-06-09 12:19 a.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>>>> Rocky Stoneberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-06-07 7:51 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>> Rocky Stoneberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A wannabe poet named Ash
>>>>>>>>> Thought writing could bring in some cash;
>>>>>>>>> But all of his verses
>>>>>>>>> Brought him only curses,
>>>>>>>>> And all of it went in the trash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> gjd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Outstanding work in the limerick form...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even PJR might approve.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 🙂
>>>>
>>>>>> PJ Ross has actually commented on it:
>>>>>> 'Close, but no cigar. Forced stress on "him".'
>>>>
>>>>>> Both this and the "Bobby Burro" limerick were ones I wrote earlier
>>>>>> in the year, in threads where they're effectively lost to
>>>>>> posterity. So I decided to top-post them so they'd be easier to find.
>>>>
>>>>> Peter is always a tough critic, I daresay....
>>>>
>>>> But when he gets serious, PJR does post some instructional thoughts.
>
>>> He was always worth listening to. But one doesn't have to agree with
>>> *him*, and here I listened and then disagreed.
>
>>> It's not normal, but it's not unnatural (and therefore not forced)
>>> for a person to stress "him" in such a context. Imagine, for example,
>>> pointing to the person when you're saying it.
>
>
>> I do miss Peter... he was grouchy but often funny....
>
>
> He was good with the dry British non-humor.

I do think the poem is good enough to go into the revised book. It and
"Bobby Burro" are good examples of the limerick form, and I have next to
no limericks in the original.

It doesn't mention the names of any real people; perhaps someone on aapc
might identify him, but then they could identify "PJ" and "Hammy
Hogarth," both of whom are already in there; and a good sleuth could
probably find more of the others.

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 by: George J. Dance - Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:01 UTC

On 2022-06-14 5:15 p.m., Victor H. wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> George J. Dance wrote:
>
>>> On 2022-06-07 7:51 p.m., W.Dockery wrote:
>>>> Rocky Stoneberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A wannabe poet named Ash
>>>>>> Thought writing could bring in some cash;
>>>>>> But all of his verses
>>>>>> Brought him only curses,
>>>>>> And all of it went in the trash.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> gjd
>>>>
>>>>> Outstanding work in the limerick form...
>>>>
>>>> Even PJR might approve.
>>>>
>>>> 🙂
>
>>> PJ Ross has actually commented on it:
>>> 'Close, but no cigar. Forced stress on "him".'
>
>>> Both this and the "Bobby Burro" limerick were ones I wrote earlier in
>>> the year, in threads where they're effectively lost to posterity. So
>>> I decided to top-post them so they'd be easier to find.
>
>
>> Good to keep your poetry where it could be found.
>
> Quite so....

Well, I did have a second reason for top-posting it. I'd already posted
"Usenet's Greatest Poet," and I wanted to post a few more, to test a
claim I'd been hearing for over a year: that because some people were
posting too much, all the poetry was getting hidden; that a poem would
fall off the front page (the top 30 posts) in less than a day, buried by
all those garbage posts.

So I followed up my first poem with those two limericks the next week,
and then over the next two weeks two with two other poems out of the
/Doggerel/ book. I had to slow down to one a week because the earlier 3
poems had not fallen out of the top 30, and I was worried about taking
up too much of it.

Finally I had to stop posting more, because all 5 poems were still
sitting in the top 30. I'm still waiting to post more because, weeks
later, all 5 of those poems are still on the front page. One dips lower,
all the time, but just as quickly pops back up. So much for the story of
a 'conspiracy' that's burying all the poetry here.

What I find most amusing is that at least one of the people complaining
in the spring about all the poetry being buried is now complaining about
my poems *not* being buried!

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 by: W.Dockery - Fri, 8 Jul 2022 17:31 UTC

Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:

>
> "I tried to welcome the poet to the group while the self-proclaimed "dood side" trashed the thread."

I bumped the thread, the poem was called "Black Sunlight".


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