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The greatest danger America faces today
is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
voters who want to Make America Great Again.
Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
Americans know it, our allies know it and
our enemies sure as hell know it.

Irish Mike

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On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:28:19 AM UTC-4, Irish Mike wrote:
> The greatest danger America faces today
> is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
> certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
> voters who want to Make America Great Again.
> Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
> mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
> Americans know it, our allies know it and
> our enemies sure as hell know it.
>
> Irish Mike

The United States has 10 years to catch China, after that it will be TOO LATE, because the technological advantages will be unsurmountable.

The rapid PIVOT, from (20 wasted years in) the middle east, to Asia, war with Russia and defending Taiwan's chip manufacturing against China, demonstrates the severity of the competition.

Change is messy. Rapid change is really chaotic and messy, with mistakes being made along the way.

But the US, that's you and me, only have 10 years, and the clock is ticking. I don't know if we can make it without a global nuclear war, but I sure hope we can.

10 years.....

Let's at least enjoy the show... I am.

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 by: chromebook test - Fri, 23 Sep 2022 15:34 UTC

On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:59:42 AM UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:28:19 AM UTC-4, Irish Mike wrote:
> > The greatest danger America faces today
> > is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
> > certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
> > voters who want to Make America Great Again.
> > Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
> > mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
> > Americans know it, our allies know it and
> > our enemies sure as hell know it.
> >
> > Irish Mike
> The United States has 10 years to catch China, after that it will be TOO LATE, because the technological advantages will be unsurmountable.
>
> The rapid PIVOT, from (20 wasted years in) the middle east, to Asia, war with Russia and defending Taiwan's chip manufacturing against China, demonstrates the severity of the competition.
>
> Change is messy. Rapid change is really chaotic and messy, with mistakes being made along the way.
>
> But the US, that's you and me, only have 10 years, and the clock is ticking. I don't know if we can make it without a global nuclear war, but I sure hope we can.
>
> 10 years.....
>
> Let's at least enjoy the show... I am.

The Manhattan project that developed the technology that brought WW2 to an end and guaranteed US world dominance for the ensuing 50 years, is similar to the chip and AI technology of today. The US has 10 years to catch-up, or US dominance could end overnight in the blink of an eye.

Dr. Philip Zelikow, "Some Uses of History"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPaofrAiP5s

NOTE: for all the reasons NOT to like Zelikow, he is a fascinating storyteller. Highly recommended listen in relation to tech development, the difficulty mounting massive resources, the obstacles to surmount technological challenges, and the outcome of being first, even when the process is messy and chaotic (and lead by a fragile head of state).

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Irish Mike <irishranger317@gmail.com> wrote:

>The greatest danger America faces today . . .

bleat bleat bleat bleat bleat

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On 9/23/2022 10:28 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
> The greatest danger America faces today
> is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
> certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
> voters who want to Make America Great Again.
> Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
> mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
> Americans know it, our allies know it and
> our enemies sure as hell know it.

No, this is wrong. Biden provides, if not agility, at least some
attempt at stability ...while Trump provides neither. Meanwhile, the
"greatest danger" to us all may be our growing inability to recognize
danger in the first place.

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On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 1:00:03 PM UTC-4, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Irish Mike <irishra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >The greatest danger America faces today . . .
>
> bleat bleat bleat bleat bleat

Biden: 'We are in a competition with China to win the 21st century'

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/Biden-s-Asia-policy/Biden-We-are-in-a-competition-with-China-to-win-the-21st-century

Biden to sign bill boosting China competition and U.S. chip production

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/02/biden-signs-china-competition-bill-to-boost-us-chip-production.html

The bill, dubbed the Chips and Science Act, includes more than $52 billion for U.S. companies producing computer chips, as well as billions more in tax credits to encourage investment in chip manufacturing. It also provides tens of billions of dollars to fund scientific research and development, and to spur the innovation and development of other U.S. technologies.

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On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 1:06:45 PM UTC-4, moviePig wrote:
> On 9/23/2022 10:28 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
> > The greatest danger America faces today
> > is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
> > certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
> > voters who want to Make America Great Again.
> > Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
> > mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
> > Americans know it, our allies know it and
> > our enemies sure as hell know it.

> No, this is wrong. Biden provides, if not agility, at least some
> attempt at stability ...while Trump provides neither. Meanwhile, the
> "greatest danger" to us all may be our growing inability to recognize
> danger in the first place.

We can make him better than he was. Better, stronger, faster.

TAGS: AI, 5G, IOT, CHIPS, INTEL, TECHNOLOGY

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 by: Ubiquitous - Fri, 23 Sep 2022 18:39 UTC

In article <zIlXK.489283$Ny99.248342@fx16.iad>, pwallace@moviepig.com wrote:
> On 9/23/2022 10:28 AM, Irish Mike wrote:

>> The greatest danger America faces today
>> is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
>> certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
>> voters who want to Make America Great Again.
>> Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
>> mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
>> Americans know it, our allies know it and
>> our enemies sure as hell know it.
>
> No, this is wrong. Biden provides, if not agility,
> at least some attempt at stability ...

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On 9/23/2022 1:15 PM, chromebook test wrote:
> On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 1:06:45 PM UTC-4, moviePig wrote:
>> On 9/23/2022 10:28 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>>> The greatest danger America faces today
>>> is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
>>> certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
>>> voters who want to Make America Great Again.
>>> Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
>>> mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
>>> Americans know it, our allies know it and
>>> our enemies sure as hell know it.
>
>
>> No, this is wrong. Biden provides, if not agility, at least some
>> attempt at stability ...while Trump provides neither. Meanwhile, the
>> "greatest danger" to us all may be our growing inability to recognize
>> danger in the first place.
>
>
> We can make him better than he was. Better, stronger, faster.

But, give them credit, they never said 'smarter'...

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Irish Mike <irishranger317@gmail.com> wrote:
> The greatest danger America faces today
> is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
> certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
> voters who want to Make America Great Again.
> Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
> mentally diminished Commander In Chief.

I guess I missed where Kamala became POTUS?

> Americans know it, our allies know it and
> our enemies sure as hell know it.
>
> Irish Mike
>

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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 by: chromebook test - Fri, 23 Sep 2022 21:45 UTC

On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 3:45:30 PM UTC-4, moviePig wrote:
> On 9/23/2022 1:15 PM, chromebook test wrote:
> > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 1:06:45 PM UTC-4, moviePig wrote:
> >> On 9/23/2022 10:28 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
> >>> The greatest danger America faces today
> >>> is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
> >>> certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
> >>> voters who want to Make America Great Again.
> >>> Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
> >>> mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
> >>> Americans know it, our allies know it and
> >>> our enemies sure as hell know it.
> >
> >
> >> No, this is wrong. Biden provides, if not agility, at least some
> >> attempt at stability ...while Trump provides neither. Meanwhile, the
> >> "greatest danger" to us all may be our growing inability to recognize
> >> danger in the first place.
> >
> >
> > We can make him better than he was. Better, stronger, faster.

> But, give them credit, they never said 'smarter'...

The CEO of a large corporation doesn't have to be the sharpest tool in the shed to be an effective leader. He or she needs to set a clear agenda, select talented team leaders and set them loose, with occasional followup meetings to check on progress and offer support if needed. One thing a good CEO never does is criticize the team or its leader in public. The violation of the old adage of, "Praise in public, criticize in private" was an indication that Trump was a piss-poor CEO, and would never long-term get the best from his people. This belittling behavior is demeaning and takes the spirit out of the team, rendering them ineffective. Bad, bad, little boy behavior in the guise of a CEO., funny and entertaining on reality TV, but cringe worthy when the CEO is leading a corporation in which I have stock.

Biden may not be the brightest bulb on the Hanukkah bush, but he has the team building ability to set things in motion to get a job done.

TAGS: mime does not endorse politicians, mime endorses sound policies that benefit the American people

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On 2022-09-23 14:28:16 +0000, Irish Mike said:
>
> The greatest danger America faces today
> is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
> certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
> voters who want to Make America Great Again.
> Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
> mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
> Americans know it, our allies know it and
> our enemies sure as hell know it.
>
> Irish Mike

"It is not Trump ... It is a weak, incompetent, mentally diminished
Commander In Chief"

But that *is* Trump the Chump. It describes him perfectly, although you
did miss out 'xenophobic', 'greedy', 'selfish', and arrogant", among
the many other bad attributes the lunatic has. :-p

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On 9/23/2022 12:06 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 9/23/2022 10:28 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>> The greatest danger America faces today
>> is not global warming.  It is not Trump and it
>> certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
>> voters who want to Make America Great Again.
>> Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
>>   mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
>> Americans know it, our allies know it and
>> our enemies sure as hell know it.
>
> No, this is wrong.  Biden provides, if not agility, at least some
> attempt at stability ...while Trump provides neither.  Meanwhile, the
> "greatest danger" to us all may be our growing inability to recognize
> danger in the first place.

Irish Beatoff has all the credibility of a limp dick. Why even bother?

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On Fri, 23 Sep 2022 13:06:38 -0400, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
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>On 9/23/2022 10:28 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>> The greatest danger America faces today
>> is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
>> certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
>> voters who want to Make America Great Again.
>> Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
>> mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
>> Americans know it, our allies know it and
>> our enemies sure as hell know it.
>
>No, this is wrong. Biden provides, if not agility, at least some
>attempt at stability ...while Trump provides neither. Meanwhile, the
>"greatest danger" to us all may be our growing inability to recognize
>danger in the first place.

I think you misunderstood "Irish" Mike. He was talking about the
*real* President of the USA, Donald Trump. I'm a bit surprised that he
recognizes and admits to Trump's limitations but it's the sort of
thing that most people have come to recognize.

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On 2022-09-23 23:22:42 +0000, shawn said:
> On Fri, 23 Sep 2022 13:06:38 -0400, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
> wrote:
>> On 9/23/2022 10:28 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>>> The greatest danger America faces today
>>> is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
>>> certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
>>> voters who want to Make America Great Again.
>>> Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
>>> mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
>>> Americans know it, our allies know it and
>>> our enemies sure as hell know it.
>>
>> No, this is wrong. Biden provides, if not agility, at least some
>> attempt at stability ...while Trump provides neither. Meanwhile, the
>> "greatest danger" to us all may be our growing inability to recognize
>> danger in the first place.
>
> I think you misunderstood "Irish" Mike. He was talking about the
> *real* President of the USA, Donald Trump. I'm a bit surprised that he
> recognizes and admits to Trump's limitations but it's the sort of
> thing that most people have come to recognize.

Most people recognised that *decades* ago, and Trump the Chump has only
gotten even worse over time and with bigger "fame" / "infamy". His
"home town" of New York don't want him there and his neighbours in
Florida don't want him there either.

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On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 8:45:27 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> On Friday, 23 September 2022 at 10:59:42 UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:28:19 AM UTC-4, Irish Mike wrote:
> > > The greatest danger America faces today
> > > is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
> > > certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
> > > voters who want to Make America Great Again.
> > > Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
> > > mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
> > > Americans know it, our allies know it and
> > > our enemies sure as hell know it.
> > >
> > > Irish Mike
> > The United States has 10 years to catch China, after that it will be TOO LATE, because the technological advantages will be unsurmountable.
> They aren't going to get there spending 70% of their GDP on various forms of welfare to allow the unfit class to keep breeding.

Between entitlement programs (social security) the military spending, and interest payments on the government debt, the USA is spending (on those 3 items alone) over 110% of income from tax receipts.

There is no way the US can ever pay off the mounting debt, without high inflation, for 10 years.

10 years, that's about all the time we have to catch China. MUST MOVE FASTER

TAGS: its a good thing we didn't piss away trillions of dollars over the last 20 years on needless war...oh wait!

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On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 12:06:58 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
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>On 2022-09-23 23:22:42 +0000, shawn said:
>> On Fri, 23 Sep 2022 13:06:38 -0400, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 9/23/2022 10:28 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>>>> The greatest danger America faces today
>>>> is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
>>>> certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
>>>> voters who want to Make America Great Again.
>>>> Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
>>>> mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
>>>> Americans know it, our allies know it and
>>>> our enemies sure as hell know it.
>>>
>>> No, this is wrong. Biden provides, if not agility, at least some
>>> attempt at stability ...while Trump provides neither. Meanwhile, the
>>> "greatest danger" to us all may be our growing inability to recognize
>>> danger in the first place.
>>
>> I think you misunderstood "Irish" Mike. He was talking about the
>> *real* President of the USA, Donald Trump. I'm a bit surprised that he
>> recognizes and admits to Trump's limitations but it's the sort of
>> thing that most people have come to recognize.
>
>Most people recognised that *decades* ago, and Trump the Chump has only
>gotten even worse over time and with bigger "fame" / "infamy". His
>"home town" of New York don't want him there and his neighbours in
>Florida don't want him there either.

I'm amazed that they never went after him in the legal sense years ago
for his obvious fraudulent statements on his real estate holdings.

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On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 9:26:09 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> On Friday, 23 September 2022 at 21:09:55 UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 8:45:27 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> > > On Friday, 23 September 2022 at 10:59:42 UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> > > > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:28:19 AM UTC-4, Irish Mike wrote:
> > > > > The greatest danger America faces today
> > > > > is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
> > > > > certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
> > > > > voters who want to Make America Great Again.
> > > > > Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
> > > > > mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
> > > > > Americans know it, our allies know it and
> > > > > our enemies sure as hell know it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Irish Mike
> > > > The United States has 10 years to catch China, after that it will be TOO LATE, because the technological advantages will be unsurmountable.
> > > They aren't going to get there spending 70% of their GDP on various forms of welfare to allow the unfit class to keep breeding.
> > Between entitlement programs (social security) the military spending, and interest payments on the government debt, the USA is spending (on those 3 items alone) over 110% of income from tax receipts.
> >
> >
> > There is no way the US can ever pay off the mounting debt, without high inflation, for 10 years.


> > 10 years, that's about all the time we have to catch China. MUST MOVE FASTER

> An incredibly paranoid conspiracy theorist told me that the sole goal of the Left was to destroy. Sounds over the top, right? Look at the last two years. The U.S., despite the pandemic was fine, everything functioning. In the space of two years, the DEMOCRATS killed ALL the progress against inflation and other economic problems made over a hard-fought 3 decades of reform.. Even the 2008 economic meltdown didn't completely set the U.S. economy off=kilter. But Biden did it in two years. Now, who can argue that the Left isn't working to undermine the U.S.?

As I've noted before, prior to the emergence of covid, the USA was in dire financial straits, with the repo market teetering on collapse in September 2019. Repo isn't like repossessing a house or repo a car. In banking REPO is the repurchasing agreement rate at which banks loan internally to one another. This repurchasing-agreement-market froze up and exchange rates skyrocketed OVERNIGHT because banks were afraid to loan to other banks for fear of default. The FED stepped in and guaranteed the loans with MASSIVE cash injections, originally intended short term, but continued for months.

MEANWHILE..... a month later, in October 2019, COVID mysteriously appears out of the blue, during Trump's trade war with China. October 2019, 200 USA service men and women athletes return home from Wuhan China to American shores as Joe Biden's twitter feed warns about Trump's disassembly of the US pandemic response team.

Without the PANDEMIC as an excuse to massively print money to compete with China, the USA would by 2030 no longer be the dominant world power.

10 years, that's all we got ...

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On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 9:48:54 PM UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 9:26:09 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> > On Friday, 23 September 2022 at 21:09:55 UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 8:45:27 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> > > > On Friday, 23 September 2022 at 10:59:42 UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:28:19 AM UTC-4, Irish Mike wrote:
> > > > > > The greatest danger America faces today
> > > > > > is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
> > > > > > certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
> > > > > > voters who want to Make America Great Again.
> > > > > > Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
> > > > > > mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
> > > > > > Americans know it, our allies know it and
> > > > > > our enemies sure as hell know it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Irish Mike
> > > > > The United States has 10 years to catch China, after that it will be TOO LATE, because the technological advantages will be unsurmountable.
> > > > They aren't going to get there spending 70% of their GDP on various forms of welfare to allow the unfit class to keep breeding.
> > > Between entitlement programs (social security) the military spending, and interest payments on the government debt, the USA is spending (on those 3 items alone) over 110% of income from tax receipts.
> > >
> > >
> > > There is no way the US can ever pay off the mounting debt, without high inflation, for 10 years.
>
>
> > > 10 years, that's about all the time we have to catch China. MUST MOVE FASTER
>
> > An incredibly paranoid conspiracy theorist told me that the sole goal of the Left was to destroy. Sounds over the top, right? Look at the last two years. The U.S., despite the pandemic was fine, everything functioning. In the space of two years, the DEMOCRATS killed ALL the progress against inflation and other economic problems made over a hard-fought 3 decades of reform. Even the 2008 economic meltdown didn't completely set the U.S. economy off=kilter. But Biden did it in two years. Now, who can argue that the Left isn't working to undermine the U.S.?
> As I've noted before, prior to the emergence of covid, the USA was in dire financial straits, with the repo market teetering on collapse in September 2019. Repo isn't like repossessing a house or repo a car. In banking REPO is the repurchasing agreement rate at which banks loan internally to one another. This repurchasing-agreement-market froze up and exchange rates skyrocketed OVERNIGHT because banks were afraid to loan to other banks for fear of default. The FED stepped in and guaranteed the loans with MASSIVE cash injections, originally intended short term, but continued for months.
>
> MEANWHILE..... a month later, in October 2019, COVID mysteriously appears out of the blue, during Trump's trade war with China. October 2019, 200 USA service men and women athletes return home from Wuhan China to American shores as Joe Biden's twitter feed warns about Trump's disassembly of the US pandemic response team.
>
> Without the PANDEMIC as an excuse to massively print money to compete with China, the USA would by 2030 no longer be the dominant world power.
>
> 10 years, that's all we got ...

And for what it is worth....

Trump and Biden are BOTH fighting for Team America, but have different approaches. Biden built an international coalition, and Trump dropped a biological bomb on Wuhan.... for the same reason.

To Rebuild America Back Again.

Crazy?

LOL, Time will tell

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On 9/23/2022 5:06 PM, Your Name wrote:
> On 2022-09-23 23:22:42 +0000, shawn said:
>> On Fri, 23 Sep 2022 13:06:38 -0400, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 9/23/2022 10:28 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>>>> The greatest danger America faces today
>>>> is not global warming.  It is not Trump and it
>>>> certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
>>>> voters who want to Make America Great Again.
>>>> Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
>>>> mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
>>>> Americans know it, our allies know it and
>>>> our enemies sure as hell know it.
>>>
>>> No, this is wrong.  Biden provides, if not agility, at least some
>>> attempt at stability ...while Trump provides neither.  Meanwhile, the
>>> "greatest danger" to us all may be our growing inability to recognize
>>> danger in the first place.
>>
>> I think you misunderstood "Irish" Mike. He was talking about the
>> *real* President of the USA, Donald Trump. I'm a bit surprised that he
>> recognizes and admits to Trump's limitations but it's the sort of
>> thing that most people have come to recognize.
>
> Most people recognised that *decades* ago, and Trump the Chump has only
> gotten even worse over time and with bigger "fame" / "infamy". His "home
> town" of New York don't want him there and his neighbours in Florida
> don't want him there either.
>
Guess he'll end up in New Jersey....

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On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:04:28 PM UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 9:48:54 PM UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 9:26:09 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> > > On Friday, 23 September 2022 at 21:09:55 UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> > > > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 8:45:27 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, 23 September 2022 at 10:59:42 UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:28:19 AM UTC-4, Irish Mike wrote:
> > > > > > > The greatest danger America faces today
> > > > > > > is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
> > > > > > > certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
> > > > > > > voters who want to Make America Great Again.
> > > > > > > Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
> > > > > > > mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
> > > > > > > Americans know it, our allies know it and
> > > > > > > our enemies sure as hell know it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Irish Mike
> > > > > > The United States has 10 years to catch China, after that it will be TOO LATE, because the technological advantages will be unsurmountable..
> > > > > They aren't going to get there spending 70% of their GDP on various forms of welfare to allow the unfit class to keep breeding.
> > > > Between entitlement programs (social security) the military spending, and interest payments on the government debt, the USA is spending (on those 3 items alone) over 110% of income from tax receipts.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There is no way the US can ever pay off the mounting debt, without high inflation, for 10 years.
> >
> >
> > > > 10 years, that's about all the time we have to catch China. MUST MOVE FASTER
> >
> > > An incredibly paranoid conspiracy theorist told me that the sole goal of the Left was to destroy. Sounds over the top, right? Look at the last two years. The U.S., despite the pandemic was fine, everything functioning. In the space of two years, the DEMOCRATS killed ALL the progress against inflation and other economic problems made over a hard-fought 3 decades of reform. Even the 2008 economic meltdown didn't completely set the U.S. economy off=kilter. But Biden did it in two years. Now, who can argue that the Left isn't working to undermine the U.S.?
> > As I've noted before, prior to the emergence of covid, the USA was in dire financial straits, with the repo market teetering on collapse in September 2019. Repo isn't like repossessing a house or repo a car. In banking REPO is the repurchasing agreement rate at which banks loan internally to one another. This repurchasing-agreement-market froze up and exchange rates skyrocketed OVERNIGHT because banks were afraid to loan to other banks for fear of default. The FED stepped in and guaranteed the loans with MASSIVE cash injections, originally intended short term, but continued for months.
> >
> > MEANWHILE..... a month later, in October 2019, COVID mysteriously appears out of the blue, during Trump's trade war with China. October 2019, 200 USA service men and women athletes return home from Wuhan China to American shores as Joe Biden's twitter feed warns about Trump's disassembly of the US pandemic response team.
> >
> > Without the PANDEMIC as an excuse to massively print money to compete with China, the USA would by 2030 no longer be the dominant world power.
> >
> > 10 years, that's all we got ...
> And for what it is worth....
>
>
> Trump and Biden are BOTH fighting for Team America, but have different approaches. Biden built an international coalition, and Trump dropped a biological bomb on Wuhan.... for the same reason.
>
> To Rebuild America Back Again.
>
>
> Crazy?
>
> LOL, Time will tell

As former Vice President of The United States Of America, private citizen Joe Biden in October 2019 was eligible to receive classified intelligence reports:

https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/1187829299207954437

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/us/politics/biden-trump-intelligence-briefings.html

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 by: chromebook test - Sat, 24 Sep 2022 03:28 UTC

On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:40:51 PM UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:04:28 PM UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 9:48:54 PM UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 9:26:09 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> > > > On Friday, 23 September 2022 at 21:09:55 UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 8:45:27 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, 23 September 2022 at 10:59:42 UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:28:19 AM UTC-4, Irish Mike wrote:
> > > > > > > > The greatest danger America faces today
> > > > > > > > is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
> > > > > > > > certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
> > > > > > > > voters who want to Make America Great Again.
> > > > > > > > Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
> > > > > > > > mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
> > > > > > > > Americans know it, our allies know it and
> > > > > > > > our enemies sure as hell know it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Irish Mike
> > > > > > > The United States has 10 years to catch China, after that it will be TOO LATE, because the technological advantages will be unsurmountable.
> > > > > > They aren't going to get there spending 70% of their GDP on various forms of welfare to allow the unfit class to keep breeding.
> > > > > Between entitlement programs (social security) the military spending, and interest payments on the government debt, the USA is spending (on those 3 items alone) over 110% of income from tax receipts.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no way the US can ever pay off the mounting debt, without high inflation, for 10 years.
> > >
> > >
> > > > > 10 years, that's about all the time we have to catch China. MUST MOVE FASTER
> > >
> > > > An incredibly paranoid conspiracy theorist told me that the sole goal of the Left was to destroy. Sounds over the top, right? Look at the last two years. The U.S., despite the pandemic was fine, everything functioning.. In the space of two years, the DEMOCRATS killed ALL the progress against inflation and other economic problems made over a hard-fought 3 decades of reform. Even the 2008 economic meltdown didn't completely set the U.S. economy off=kilter. But Biden did it in two years. Now, who can argue that the Left isn't working to undermine the U.S.?
> > > As I've noted before, prior to the emergence of covid, the USA was in dire financial straits, with the repo market teetering on collapse in September 2019. Repo isn't like repossessing a house or repo a car. In banking REPO is the repurchasing agreement rate at which banks loan internally to one another. This repurchasing-agreement-market froze up and exchange rates skyrocketed OVERNIGHT because banks were afraid to loan to other banks for fear of default. The FED stepped in and guaranteed the loans with MASSIVE cash injections, originally intended short term, but continued for months.
> > >
> > > MEANWHILE..... a month later, in October 2019, COVID mysteriously appears out of the blue, during Trump's trade war with China. October 2019, 200 USA service men and women athletes return home from Wuhan China to American shores as Joe Biden's twitter feed warns about Trump's disassembly of the US pandemic response team.
> > >
> > > Without the PANDEMIC as an excuse to massively print money to compete with China, the USA would by 2030 no longer be the dominant world power.
> > >
> > > 10 years, that's all we got ...
> > And for what it is worth....
> >
> >
> > Trump and Biden are BOTH fighting for Team America, but have different approaches. Biden built an international coalition, and Trump dropped a biological bomb on Wuhan.... for the same reason.
> >
> > To Rebuild America Back Again.
> >
> >
> > Crazy?
> >
> > LOL, Time will tell
> As former Vice President of The United States Of America, private citizen Joe Biden in October 2019 was eligible to receive classified intelligence reports:
>
> https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/1187829299207954437
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/us/politics/biden-trump-intelligence-briefings.html

One more, for what it is worth and highly speculative on my part:

In politics, politicians like most humans, do things for apparently one reason, when they hide the real reason for their action.

IOW the intended action might be justified, but the motivation might be hidden because of the political fallout if the true motivation was made public..

All Americans want America to win, but going too far or to extreme lengths to win might be repugnant and alarming.

Imagine a person committing murder while in office, a murder that had the potential to tarnish the reputation of the whole government, or implicate the whole power structure in global reparations. How could this person be removed from office without revealing the actual crime ? What scenarios could be conjured, real or imagined, to keep this person from the highest office?

Now imagine instead of one murder, imagine this person, by his misfeasance or malfeasance, was responsible for the murder of a million Americans, and millions of civilians world-wide.

How could the power structure keep him out of the oval office without an admission of responsibility or the need to compensate millions for the loss of life?

TAGS: enquiring minds want to know, “no one would know it was us.” - dtrump

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> > > > > > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 8:45:27 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, 23 September 2022 at 10:59:42 UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 10:28:19 AM UTC-4, Irish Mike wrote:

> > > > > > > > > The greatest danger America faces today

> TAGS: “no one would know it was us.” - dtrump

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 by: David Johnston - Sat, 24 Sep 2022 05:00 UTC

On 2022-09-23 8:28 a.m., Irish Mike wrote:
> The greatest danger America faces today
> is not global warming. It is not Trump and it
> certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
> voters who want to Make America Great Again.
> Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
> mentally diminished Commander In Chief.

I thought you said Trump wasn't the greatest danger.

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On 2022-09-24 02:37:07 +0000, suzeeq said:

> On 9/23/2022 5:06 PM, Your Name wrote:
>> On 2022-09-23 23:22:42 +0000, shawn said:
>>> On Fri, 23 Sep 2022 13:06:38 -0400, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 9/23/2022 10:28 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>>>>> The greatest danger America faces today
>>>>> is not global warming.  It is not Trump and it
>>>>> certainly isn't a bunch of working, middle class
>>>>> voters who want to Make America Great Again.
>>>>> Our greatest danger It is a weak, incompetent,
>>>>> mentally diminished Commander In Chief.
>>>>> Americans know it, our allies know it and
>>>>> our enemies sure as hell know it.
>>>>
>>>> No, this is wrong.  Biden provides, if not agility, at least some
>>>> attempt at stability ...while Trump provides neither.  Meanwhile, the
>>>> "greatest danger" to us all may be our growing inability to recognize
>>>> danger in the first place.
>>>
>>> I think you misunderstood "Irish" Mike. He was talking about the
>>> *real* President of the USA, Donald Trump. I'm a bit surprised that he
>>> recognizes and admits to Trump's limitations but it's the sort of
>>> thing that most people have come to recognize.
>>
>> Most people recognised that *decades* ago, and Trump the Chump has only
>> gotten even worse over time and with bigger "fame" / "infamy". His
>> "home town" of New York don't want him there and his neighbours in
>> Florida don't want him there either.
>
> Guess he'll end up in New Jersey....

It would be worth the expense to get NASA to launch the lunatic into a
black hole ... at least then he actually be useful for something
(finding out what really happens when you get closer to going in).


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