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by: Jeffrey Rubard - Fri, 6 Jan 2023 19:46 UTC

On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 8:38:44 AM UTC-8, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 8:37:57 AM UTC-8, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 7:15:08 PM UTC-8, Pluted Pup wrote:
> > > On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 16:09:10 -0800, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 11:05:56 PM UTC-8, The Horny Goat wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 15:02:55 -0800 (PST), Jeffrey Rubard
> > > > > <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The same book can have different ISBNs, of course.
> > > > > Paperback and hardcover editions of the same title nearly always do.
> > > > >
> > > > > additional printings may or may not.
> > > >
> > > > That is... just... not terribly informative.
> > > It's not informative if you only read books that
> > > don't have ISBNs. So what do you read that doesn't
> > > have ISBNs?
> > The ISBN doesn't "individuate" the book in the sense of philosophical metaphysics.
> > It's a relatively trivial guide to different physical editions of the book, being passed off as "important" as a clue to...
> IOW, it's a pretty common "ruse" in the bookseller industry.

"Wow, like I needed to hear that."
Hmm.

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by: Jeffrey Rubard - Sun, 8 Jan 2023 18:21 UTC

On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 11:46:56 AM UTC-8, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 8:38:44 AM UTC-8, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 8:37:57 AM UTC-8, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 7:15:08 PM UTC-8, Pluted Pup wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 16:09:10 -0800, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 11:05:56 PM UTC-8, The Horny Goat wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 15:02:55 -0800 (PST), Jeffrey Rubard
> > > > > > <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The same book can have different ISBNs, of course.
> > > > > > Paperback and hardcover editions of the same title nearly always do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > additional printings may or may not.
> > > > >
> > > > > That is... just... not terribly informative.
> > > > It's not informative if you only read books that
> > > > don't have ISBNs. So what do you read that doesn't
> > > > have ISBNs?
> > > The ISBN doesn't "individuate" the book in the sense of philosophical metaphysics.
> > > It's a relatively trivial guide to different physical editions of the book, being passed off as "important" as a clue to...
> > IOW, it's a pretty common "ruse" in the bookseller industry.
> "Wow, like I needed to hear that."
> Hmm.

Perhaps your contribution to the thread lacked "relevance" also?

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by: Pluted Pup - Thu, 12 Jan 2023 22:53 UTC

On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 08:37:55 -0800, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:

> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 7:15:08 PM UTC-8, Pluted Pup wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 16:09:10 -0800, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 11:05:56 PM UTC-8, The Horny Goat wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 15:02:55 -0800 (PST), Jeffrey Rubard
> > > > <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The same book can have different ISBNs, of course.
> > > > Paperback and hardcover editions of the same title nearly always do.
> > > >
> > > > additional printings may or may not.
> > >
> > > That is... just... not terribly informative.
> > It's not informative if you only read books that
> > don't have ISBNs. So what do you read that doesn't
> > have ISBNs?
>
> The ISBN doesn't "individuate" the book in the sense of philosophical metaphysics.
> It's a relatively trivial guide to different physical editions of the book, being passed off as "important" as a clue to...

It helps tell one book from another, just like a UPC code!

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by: Jeffrey Rubard - Fri, 13 Jan 2023 16:32 UTC

On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 2:53:47 PM UTC-8, Pluted Pup wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 08:37:55 -0800, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 7:15:08 PM UTC-8, Pluted Pup wrote:
> > > On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 16:09:10 -0800, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 11:05:56 PM UTC-8, The Horny Goat wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 15:02:55 -0800 (PST), Jeffrey Rubard
> > > > > <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The same book can have different ISBNs, of course.
> > > > > Paperback and hardcover editions of the same title nearly always do.
> > > > >
> > > > > additional printings may or may not.
> > > >
> > > > That is... just... not terribly informative.
> > > It's not informative if you only read books that
> > > don't have ISBNs. So what do you read that doesn't
> > > have ISBNs?
> >
> > The ISBN doesn't "individuate" the book in the sense of philosophical metaphysics.
> > It's a relatively trivial guide to different physical editions of the book, being passed off as "important" as a clue to...
> It helps tell one book from another, just like a UPC code!

"Again, about the 'chipper-chappie' practice of sharing impertinently useless information..."

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by: Jeffrey Rubard - Fri, 13 Jan 2023 20:53 UTC

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 8:32:38 AM UTC-8, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 2:53:47 PM UTC-8, Pluted Pup wrote:
> > On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 08:37:55 -0800, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 7:15:08 PM UTC-8, Pluted Pup wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 16:09:10 -0800, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 11:05:56 PM UTC-8, The Horny Goat wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 15:02:55 -0800 (PST), Jeffrey Rubard
> > > > > > <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The same book can have different ISBNs, of course.
> > > > > > Paperback and hardcover editions of the same title nearly always do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > additional printings may or may not.
> > > > >
> > > > > That is... just... not terribly informative.
> > > > It's not informative if you only read books that
> > > > don't have ISBNs. So what do you read that doesn't
> > > > have ISBNs?
> > >
> > > The ISBN doesn't "individuate" the book in the sense of philosophical metaphysics.
> > > It's a relatively trivial guide to different physical editions of the book, being passed off as "important" as a clue to...
> > It helps tell one book from another, just like a UPC code!
> "Again, about the 'chipper-chappie' practice of sharing impertinently useless information..."

"It might really not quite tell you the extent to which the information is 'news' to the other person, and you could begin
'fooling yourself' about putting one over on them."

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by: The Horny Goat - Sat, 14 Jan 2023 20:55 UTC

On Thu, 05 Jan 2023 19:15:02 -0800, Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 16:09:10 -0800, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 11:05:56 PM UTC-8, The Horny Goat wrote:
>> > On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 15:02:55 -0800 (PST), Jeffrey Rubard
>> > <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > The same book can have different ISBNs, of course.
>> > Paperback and hardcover editions of the same title nearly always do.
>> >
>> > additional printings may or may not.
>>
>> That is... just... not terribly informative.
>
>It's not informative if you only read books that
>don't have ISBNs. So what do you read that doesn't
>have ISBNs?
>
Excellent question: I usually first look on Amazon (note: there are
often different ISBN's for different editions of the same book) and
failing that try the website of the local public library. Between
those two I get about 95% of the ISBN's I need (which is usually in
the context of me requesting a book for purchase at the local public
library - which they do about 75% of the time)

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by: Jeffrey Rubard - Sat, 14 Jan 2023 22:13 UTC

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 12:55:16 PM UTC-8, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jan 2023 19:15:02 -0800, Pluted Pup <plut...@outlook.com>
> wrote:
> >On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 16:09:10 -0800, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> >
> >> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 11:05:56 PM UTC-8, The Horny Goat wrote:
> >> > On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 15:02:55 -0800 (PST), Jeffrey Rubard
> >> > <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > The same book can have different ISBNs, of course.
> >> > Paperback and hardcover editions of the same title nearly always do.
> >> >
> >> > additional printings may or may not.
> >>
> >> That is... just... not terribly informative.
> >
> >It's not informative if you only read books that
> >don't have ISBNs. So what do you read that doesn't
> >have ISBNs?
> >
> Excellent question: I usually first look on Amazon (note: there are
> often different ISBN's for different editions of the same book) and
> failing that try the website of the local public library. Between
> those two I get about 95% of the ISBN's I need (which is usually in
> the context of me requesting a book for purchase at the local public
> library - which they do about 75% of the time)

Is it really? I am calling you an "impertinent moron", more, to my mind.
But I suppose we are not "sole masters of discourse" as individuals...

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by: Jeffrey Rubard - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 22:50 UTC

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 2:13:02 PM UTC-8, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 12:55:16 PM UTC-8, The Horny Goat wrote:
> > On Thu, 05 Jan 2023 19:15:02 -0800, Pluted Pup <plut...@outlook.com>
> > wrote:
> > >On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 16:09:10 -0800, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 11:05:56 PM UTC-8, The Horny Goat wrote:
> > >> > On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 15:02:55 -0800 (PST), Jeffrey Rubard
> > >> > <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > The same book can have different ISBNs, of course.
> > >> > Paperback and hardcover editions of the same title nearly always do.
> > >> >
> > >> > additional printings may or may not.
> > >>
> > >> That is... just... not terribly informative.
> > >
> > >It's not informative if you only read books that
> > >don't have ISBNs. So what do you read that doesn't
> > >have ISBNs?
> > >
> > Excellent question: I usually first look on Amazon (note: there are
> > often different ISBN's for different editions of the same book) and
> > failing that try the website of the local public library. Between
> > those two I get about 95% of the ISBN's I need (which is usually in
> > the context of me requesting a book for purchase at the local public
> > library - which they do about 75% of the time)
> Is it really? I am calling you an "impertinent moron", more, to my mind.
> But I suppose we are not "sole masters of discourse" as individuals...

Many "ripostes" of the type: "Here's an idea: Be sure to cook your meat products thoroughly."
You usually don't have to "ooh" and "aah" over them, though.

Save the bales!

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How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Spiros Bousbouras
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Spiros Bousbouras
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Spiros Bousbouras
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Spiros Bousbouras
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	The Horny Goat
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Pluted Pup
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Pluted Pup
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	The Horny Goat
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard
Re: How do I find out the ISBN for a novel ?	Jeffrey Rubard