The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 17:19:52 -0400, shawn
> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 10:26:05 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 11:53:33 +0000 (UTC),
>>>> MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply (Micky DuPree) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 03:56:10 +0000 (UTC),
>>>>>> MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply (Micky DuPree) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The new bivalent anti-omicron boosters aren't available in your neck
>>>>>>> of the woods yet? (I'm behind on reading, as usual.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Moderna are [....]
>>>>>
>>>>>> Since I'm in the group "clinically extremely vulnerable" and have
>>>>>> already had 3 shots I'm being careful but have decided to wait for
>>>>>> Pfizer which is said to be available in the next 2-3 weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger. May the Pfizer shipments be swift.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously, milage varies, but all I had from the bivalent Pfizer was a
>>>>> little arm soreness.
>>>>
>>>> Whereas I've known several people (including my daughter) who had
>>>> severe side effects and she was the only one of our clan who "mixed
>>>> and matched".
>>>>
>>>> Don't get me wrong - unlike my missus I DONT pay attention to websites
>>>> or day TV with pundits pontificating on all sorts of things with
>>>> little apparent knowledge - I've been getting my info from my
>>>> specialist (who I see every 1-3 months) who routinely does rounds in
>>>> the hospital that has been dedicated the main COVID reception hospital
>>>> in our metropolitan area. (He did rounds there before the pandemic so
>>>> this is mostly coincidental) His advice is that mixing vaccines
>>>> between Pfizer and Moderna makes little difference in terms of
>>>> protection but says that the literature he's read suggests fewer side
>>>> effects and lesser effects if one sticks to one or the other. It's NOT
>>>> a mindless 'brand loyalty'
>>>>
>>>> My booster was last January so another couple weeks won't hurt.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was laid up for months from the Moderna, got to fill out special forms
>>> for the government (that Walgreens has right on hand so there’s obviously
>>> need for them) and have been told to absolutely not take the boosters.
>>
>> They are always worried about any bad reaction but the one they are
>> most worried about is the possible allergic reaction which is why they
>> want you to stick around for 15 minutes after getting a shot. It seems
>> like your body is trying to find new ways to take you out between
>> diabetes and allergies along with a bad reaction to the Covid vaccine.
>> :(
>
> For what it's worth, I mentioned I had been discussing this with a
> "specialist" - I didn't say it previously but the doctor in question
> is an endochrinolgist. He gave me no special instructions concerning
> the various vaccines (other than to take them) and have personally had
> no ill effects from any of my shots. And of course as mentioned to
> answer what questions I had.
>

I chose Moderno because it had the lowest incident of causing people in my
group to stroke out and die.

My new next-door neighbor is an endocrinologist but I have avoided
discussing stuff like this with her because that must just be a nightmare
for doctors.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

On 10/24/2022 10:13 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 15:11:04 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 10:26:05 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 11:53:33 +0000 (UTC),
>>>>>> MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply (Micky DuPree) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 03:56:10 +0000 (UTC),
>>>>>>>> MDuPree@theworld.com.snip.to.reply (Micky DuPree) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The new bivalent anti-omicron boosters aren't available in your neck
>>>>>>>>> of the woods yet? (I'm behind on reading, as usual.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Moderna are [....]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since I'm in the group "clinically extremely vulnerable" and have
>>>>>>>> already had 3 shots I'm being careful but have decided to wait for
>>>>>>>> Pfizer which is said to be available in the next 2-3 weeks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roger. May the Pfizer shipments be swift.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obviously, milage varies, but all I had from the bivalent Pfizer was a
>>>>>>> little arm soreness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whereas I've known several people (including my daughter) who had
>>>>>> severe side effects and she was the only one of our clan who "mixed
>>>>>> and matched".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't get me wrong - unlike my missus I DONT pay attention to websites
>>>>>> or day TV with pundits pontificating on all sorts of things with
>>>>>> little apparent knowledge - I've been getting my info from my
>>>>>> specialist (who I see every 1-3 months) who routinely does rounds in
>>>>>> the hospital that has been dedicated the main COVID reception hospital
>>>>>> in our metropolitan area. (He did rounds there before the pandemic so
>>>>>> this is mostly coincidental) His advice is that mixing vaccines
>>>>>> between Pfizer and Moderna makes little difference in terms of
>>>>>> protection but says that the literature he's read suggests fewer side
>>>>>> effects and lesser effects if one sticks to one or the other. It's NOT
>>>>>> a mindless 'brand loyalty'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My booster was last January so another couple weeks won't hurt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was laid up for months from the Moderna, got to fill out special forms
>>>>> for the government (that Walgreens has right on hand so there’s obviously
>>>>> need for them) and have been told to absolutely not take the boosters.
>>>>
>>>> They are always worried about any bad reaction but the one they are
>>>> most worried about is the possible allergic reaction which is why they
>>>> want you to stick around for 15 minutes after getting a shot. It seems
>>>> like your body is trying to find new ways to take you out between
>>>> diabetes and allergies along with a bad reaction to the Covid vaccine.
>>>> :(
>>>>
>>>
>>> What it did was put my diabetes into hyper drive. While I was sitting there
>>> at the Walgreens for the waiting period my glucose alarm went off because
>>> my blood sugars were already going through the roof. Over the next couple
>>> days they got so high that they became unmeasurable. My ex had dragged me
>>> down by the scruff of my neck and made me get the shot. The pharmacist said
>>> that if I didn’t have somebody there to take me home they have called the
>>> paramedics but they wouldn’t of let me leave on my own.
>>
>> Not a reaction that I have heard of and it can't be common or they
>> would be warning everyone with diabetes before giving them a shot of
>> Moderna or Pfizer (I assume Pfizer could have a similar effect since
>> both are mRNA vaccines.)
>>
>
> Oh it’s pretty damn common. They just don’t publicize it. Lots of people on
> the CGM groups of reported it.
>
I think they were cautioning diabetics about having a vaccine.