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* False accusations of racism and misogynyIlya Shambat
+* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyMichael Pendragon
|`* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyIlya Shambat
| +* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyMichael Pendragon
| |+- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
| |`* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyIlya Shambat
| | `* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyMichael Pendragon
| |  `* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyIlya Shambat
| |   `- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyAsh Wurthing
| `* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyIlya Shambat
|  `- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyMichael Pendragon
+- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
+* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyFamily Guy
|`* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
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| `* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyFamily Guy
|  `* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
|   +- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyMichael Pendragon
|   +* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyAsh Wurthing
|   |`* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
|   | `- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyAsh Wurthing
|   `* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyGeneral-Zod
|    +* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyAsh Wurthing
|    |`- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyME
|    +- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyAsh Wurthing
|    +- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
|    +* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
|    |`* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyAsh Wurthing
|    | `* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
|    |  `* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyAsh Wurthing
|    |   `* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
|    |    `- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyAsh Wurthing
|    +- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyW.Dockery
|    `* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyW-Dockery
|     `- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
+* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyVictor H.
|+- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyAsh Wurthing
|+- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
|`- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
+* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
|`- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyAsh Wurthing
+* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
|+- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyAsh Wurthing
|`* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyW-Dockery
| `- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyAsh Wurthing
+* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
|`* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyVictor Hugo Fan
| `- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
+* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyAsh Wurthing
|`- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyAsh Wurthing
+* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
|`* Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyAsh Wurthing
| `- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
+- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyWill Dockery
+- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyW-Dockery
+- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyW.Dockery
+- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyVictor Hugo Fan
`- Re: False accusations of racism and misogynyVictor H.

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Re: False accusations of racism and misogyny

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Subject: Re: False accusations of racism and misogyny
From: will.doc...@gmail.com (Will Dockery)
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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 11 Aug 2022 00:44 UTC

On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 5:50:20 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ilya Shambat wrote:
> >
> > There have been people calling me a racist and a misogynist. These people are crying wolf. If you call someone a racist or a misogynist who isn’t, you become not credible when a real racist or a real misogynist appears.
>
> > Obviously these people haven’t dealt with real racists and real misogynists. I have. Real misogynists call me a p*ssy-whipped idiot. Real racists call me a dirty Jew. I haven’t seen these people confront either. Instead they attack someone who’s easy to attack while doing nothing to fight real wrongdoers.
>
> > If I had been a racist or a misogynist, I wouldn’t care that I was called such things. I would have believed that being a racist or a misogynist was the way to go. Instead it bothers me that some people call me such things; so I am not a racist or a misogynist.
>
> > The people who say such things aren’t better than real racists or real misogynists. They have been tearing families apart for unsubstantiated allegations. They have been getting people fired for looking at a female co-worker the wrong way. They have been teaching women to be horrible people and to be ugly to men. The two sides in this war deserve each other. The rest of us deserve to be free of both of them.
>
> > I am not going to side with racists and misogynists. But don’t expect me to side with these people either.
> Good day my friend I.S.
>
> You have to keep correcting the record when need be, I have had similar situations, such as my four years in the Navy...

Exactly.

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On Wednesday, 10 August 2022 at 19:49:41 UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> Lo7z!1!
>
> "Bury them deep that's what i said
> Time to play your dead man's hand
> Dealin' bullets is like dealin' cards
> When it all comes down to a draw"
> "Bury Them Deep" ~~Ghoultown
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_kn2rtuc4o

Ash, I like the way you think....

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Thu, 11 Aug 2022 03:23 UTC

On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:10:31 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:02:42 PM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:03:21 AM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> >> > > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:27:51 AM UTC-4, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > There have been people calling me a racist and a misogynist.
> >> > > There are pretty good reasons for that to be happening. Go to Hell..
> >> > Troll much, Dink?
> >> >
> >> > 🙂
> >> You do.
>
> > Says Dink, one of the biggest trolls on Usenet.
>
> >> You should stop, but you obviously never will unless death
>
> > Your ongoing death fantasy is noted.
>
> > And so it goes.
> Dink is merely a troll... that is what trolls do...!

I guess you would know Stink, you and Dockery are our most experienced trolls-- like you guys trolling the person you drove off for weeks now after driving him off. Do you remember that he was suffering from a life threatening condition that can easily come back? Of course you know, your talking head said it for you: "You don't care if he lives or dies."

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 11 Aug 2022 03:39 UTC

Ash Wurthing wrote:

> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:10:31 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:02:42 PM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:03:21 AM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
>> >> > > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:27:51 AM UTC-4, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > There have been people calling me a racist and a misogynist.
>> >> > > There are pretty good reasons for that to be happening. Go to Hell..
>> >> > Troll much, Dink?
>> >> >
>> >> > 🙂
>> >> You do.
>>
>> > Says Dink, one of the biggest trolls on Usenet.
>>
>> >> You should stop, but you obviously never will unless death
>>
>> > Your ongoing death fantasy is noted.
>>
>> > And so it goes.
>> Dink is merely a troll... that is what trolls do...!

> I guess you would know

Obviously you know, Ash.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 11 Aug 2022 13:06 UTC

On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:10:31 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:02:42 PM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:03:21 AM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> >> > > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:27:51 AM UTC-4, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > There have been people calling me a racist and a misogynist.
> >> > > There are pretty good reasons for that to be happening. Go to Hell..
> >> > Troll much, Dink?
> >> >
> >> > 🙂
> >> You do.
>
> > Says Dink, one of the biggest trolls on Usenet.
>
> >> You should stop, but you obviously never will unless death
>
> > Your ongoing death fantasy is noted.
>
> > And so it goes.
> Dink is merely a troll... that is what trolls do...!

Obviously that's all Dink knows how to do.

And so it goes.

🙂

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Thu, 11 Aug 2022 14:22 UTC

On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 11:39:53 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Ash Wurthing wrote:
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> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:10:31 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:02:42 PM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> >> >> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:03:21 AM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> >> >> > > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:27:51 AM UTC-4, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > There have been people calling me a racist and a misogynist.
> >> >> > > There are pretty good reasons for that to be happening. Go to Hell..
> >> >> > Troll much, Dink?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 🙂
> >> >> You do.
> >>
> >> > Says Dink, one of the biggest trolls on Usenet.
> >>
> >> >> You should stop, but you obviously never will unless death
> >>
> >> > Your ongoing death fantasy is noted.
> >>
> >> > And so it goes.
> >> Dink is merely a troll... that is what trolls do...!
>
> > I guess you would know
> Obviously you know, Ash.

No, I don't because of your post editing you misrepresent me, putting words in my mouth, hypocrite- making it look like I said something else, which would be lying, forging and cowardly impersonating me on your part. What is known is you know nothing other than petty and childish things like this and what makes dealing with you so amusing-- that we all know to be true.

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 11 Aug 2022 15:08 UTC

Actually, you're the one constantly lying about me and putting words in my mouth, Ash.

Hypocrite much?

🙂

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Mon, 15 Aug 2022 01:50 UTC

On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 11:08:31 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Actually, you're the one constantly lying about me and putting words in my mouth, Ash.
>
> Hypocrite much?

You need to provide some proof of me SAYING that you SAID something. I'm criticizing what you're doing. I said NOTHING of what you SAID. Yes you said, like a broken record, that I said you said something but I didn't say no such thing, you're the only one saying everything!

Unlike you and your post editing of what people wrote (said) in your quote sections:
I would say that you don't know exactly what putting words in people mouths means, but then you "lie and misrepresent" with tampering with people's words in quote sections to present something different from what people actually said-- that act, you also define as fraud and forgery, you know...

SPEAKING OF SUCH: Thank you sWill, no tell me again about your moral ground for crossposting to RAP-- maligning us behind our backs "without any chance for rebuttal or to give true story"? As Jordy says we should just accept this how Usenet trolls like you & Zod and leave and go to places where you trolls are banned.

Will Dockery
Jul 19, 2017, 5:24:24 PM
Oh, so I'm a topic of discussion over there, behind my back, without any chance for rebuttal or to give true story.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/tl4j-Wlrhkw/m/C2eiYJC7AAAJ

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Like I said, you're the one constantly lying about me and putting words in my mouth, Ash.

Hypocrite much?

And so it goes.

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On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 1:47:33 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Like I said, you're the one constantly lying about me and putting words in my mouth, Ash.
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> Hypocrite much?
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> And so it goes.

So where's this proof that I said you said something? Quit avoiding, liar and misrepresenter.

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 by: Will Dockery - Mon, 15 Aug 2022 11:37 UTC

On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:27:51 AM UTC-4, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
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> There have been people calling me a racist and a misogynist. These people are crying wolf. If you call someone a racist or a misogynist who isn’t, you become not credible when a real racist or a real misogynist appears.
>
> Obviously these people haven’t dealt with real racists and real misogynists. I have. Real misogynists call me a p*ssy-whipped idiot. Real racists call me a dirty Jew. I haven’t seen these people confront either. Instead they attack someone who’s easy to attack while doing nothing to fight real wrongdoers.
>
> If I had been a racist or a misogynist, I wouldn’t care that I was called such things. I would have believed that being a racist or a misogynist was the way to go. Instead it bothers me that some people call me such things; so I am not a racist or a misogynist.
>
> The people who say such things aren’t better than real racists or real misogynists. They have been tearing families apart for unsubstantiated allegations. They have been getting people fired for looking at a female co-worker the wrong way. They have been teaching women to be horrible people and to be ugly to men. The two sides in this war deserve each other. The rest of us deserve to be free of both of them.
>
> I am not going to side with racists and misogynists. But don’t expect me to side with these people either.

Again, well put, Ilya.

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 by: Victor Hugo Fan - Mon, 15 Aug 2022 21:59 UTC

On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 7:37:25 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:27:51 AM UTC-4, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > There have been people calling me a racist and a misogynist. These people are crying wolf. If you call someone a racist or a misogynist who isn’t, you become not credible when a real racist or a real misogynist appears.
> >
> > Obviously these people haven’t dealt with real racists and real misogynists. I have. Real misogynists call me a p*ssy-whipped idiot. Real racists call me a dirty Jew. I haven’t seen these people confront either. Instead they attack someone who’s easy to attack while doing nothing to fight real wrongdoers.
> >
> > If I had been a racist or a misogynist, I wouldn’t care that I was called such things. I would have believed that being a racist or a misogynist was the way to go. Instead it bothers me that some people call me such things; so I am not a racist or a misogynist.
> >
> > The people who say such things aren’t better than real racists or real misogynists. They have been tearing families apart for unsubstantiated allegations. They have been getting people fired for looking at a female co-worker the wrong way. They have been teaching women to be horrible people and to be ugly to men. The two sides in this war deserve each other. The rest of us deserve to be free of both of them.
> >
> > I am not going to side with racists and misogynists. But don’t expect me to side with these people either.
> Again, well put, Ilya.

Yep

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Tue, 16 Aug 2022 00:05 UTC

On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:27:51 AM UTC-4, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
> There have been people calling me a racist and a misogynist. These people are crying wolf. If you call someone a racist or a misogynist who isn’t, you become not credible when a real racist or a real misogynist appears.
>
> Obviously these people haven’t dealt with real racists and real misogynists. I have. Real misogynists call me a p*ssy-whipped idiot. Real racists call me a dirty Jew. I haven’t seen these people confront either. Instead they attack someone who’s easy to attack while doing nothing to fight real wrongdoers.
>
> If I had been a racist or a misogynist, I wouldn’t care that I was called such things. I would have believed that being a racist or a misogynist was the way to go. Instead it bothers me that some people call me such things; so I am not a racist or a misogynist.
>
> The people who say such things aren’t better than real racists or real misogynists. They have been tearing families apart for unsubstantiated allegations. They have been getting people fired for looking at a female co-worker the wrong way. They have been teaching women to be horrible people and to be ugly to men. The two sides in this war deserve each other. The rest of us deserve to be free of both of them.
>
> I am not going to side with racists and misogynists. But don’t expect me to side with these people either.

There have been hedonists calling me a hater and a racist. These people are simply slinging labels like ignorant children, for that's all they know. If they call someone such without understanding who or what they're labeling, so to merely dismiss accusations against them, then they prove themselves even less credible, especially when being seen ignoring similar foul deeds done by their own.

So sanctimoniously they would label me a lowly assassin. What do you call those that label me? Cowards that assassinate through ignominious deceit and simple minded slanderous labeling deeds. They slander the truth and I'm supposed to be merciful to them, those that claim to be righteous and the victims, all the while lowering themselves by being like their opponents- just to be victorious.

Assassin they may say- but am I, when they have no character to slay? Nay, their character is merely clay, simplistically molded by self indulgent child's play. So if I'm to be cast as the assassin, well then, let me play the role and not disappoint their expectations- for there can be no quarter given.

But I digress. Obviously these Usenet sheltered safe place cowards don't seem to have really dealt with 'real' racists, survived 'real' haters, for they still live and galavant online like they have not a fear or care in the world other than their whims. They can be assured, I can attest to this. Real racists and the various haters considered me a traitor and no quarter was given. That's why those that label me always do so from their safe places, because they wouldn't be able to do so while facing these scars on my face. They need to earn their scars for their fellow Man and then dare face me with their two-faced labels.

If I had been a racist or a hater, woe upon them all. Once when able to see people's faces, I could see their fear even while they thanked me for my service to them for they worried that I felt the desire to harm myself or them. If you're going to label me, then call it right, cowards- if I'm anything, it would be misanthropist. I absolutely loathe the selfish lowliness that is so much a part of Humanity regardless of race, gender or creed. And I fully intend on leaving everyone here so they can suffer further at the hands of their fellow.

"The two sides in this war deserve each other. The rest of us deserve to be free of both of them."
Oh no you don't, you don't get off so easily. No one is truly innocent and you fully deserve to also suffer the torture. Remember, no man is an island and we're all part of the vicious cycles that we all help keep in motion with our every selfish tyranny, great and small, that we knowingly or ignorantly impose upon another. These wheels set in motion even greater wheels of tyrannies' torture. You all like to bandy about some one's death diminishes, but I notice this only concerns their demise and not their suffering leading up to it. So if you're all about no one is an island, then it's only right that everyone suffers along with their fellows. For it's our standing by, with our sentiments shock stricken, that allows it to continue. Or is that not what you meant with your lofty poetic lip service? Seeing ignorant smucks like you, who needs enemies? At least they would give me a chance at a worthwhile fight, while you all would do me in mindlessly without even a thought about it. Save your pious pearl clutching and lofty words to make yourself look virtuous at my funeral.

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On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 5:59:11 PM UTC-4, vhug...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 7:37:25 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:27:51 AM UTC-4, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > There have been people calling me a racist and a misogynist. These people are crying wolf. If you call someone a racist or a misogynist who isn’t, you become not credible when a real racist or a real misogynist appears.
> > >
> > > Obviously these people haven’t dealt with real racists and real misogynists. I have. Real misogynists call me a p*ssy-whipped idiot. Real racists call me a dirty Jew. I haven’t seen these people confront either. Instead they attack someone who’s easy to attack while doing nothing to fight real wrongdoers.
> > >
> > > If I had been a racist or a misogynist, I wouldn’t care that I was called such things. I would have believed that being a racist or a misogynist was the way to go. Instead it bothers me that some people call me such things; so I am not a racist or a misogynist.
> > >
> > > The people who say such things aren’t better than real racists or real misogynists. They have been tearing families apart for unsubstantiated allegations. They have been getting people fired for looking at a female co-worker the wrong way. They have been teaching women to be horrible people and to be ugly to men. The two sides in this war deserve each other. The rest of us deserve to be free of both of them.
> > >
> > > I am not going to side with racists and misogynists. But don’t expect me to side with these people either.
>
> Yep

Agreed.

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TweedleTroll and TweedleTrolling attempting up stage me?

There was a typo:
There have been hedonists calling me a hater and a racist. These people are simply slinging labels like ignorant children, for that's all they know. If they call someone such without understanding who or what they're labeling, so to merely dismiss accusations against them, then they prove themselves even less credible, especially when being seen ignoring similar foul deeds done by their own.

So sanctimoniously they would label me a lowly assassin. What do you call those that label me? Cowards that assassinate through ignominious deceit and simple minded slanderous labeling deeds. They slander the truth and I'm supposed to be merciful to them, those that claim to be righteous and the victims, all the while lowering themselves by being like their opponents- just to be victorious.

Assassin they may say- but am I, when they have no character to slay? Nay, their character is merely clay, simplistically molded by self indulgent child's play. So if I'm to be cast as the assassin, well then, let me play the role and not disappoint their expectations- for there can be no quarter given.

But I digress. Obviously these Usenet sheltered safe place cowards don't seem to have really dealt with 'real' racists, survived 'real' haters, for they still live and galavant online like they have not a fear or care in the world other than their whims. They can be assured, I can attest to this. Real racists and the various haters considered me a traitor and no quarter was given. That's why those that label me always do so from their safe places, because they wouldn't be able to do so while facing these scars on my face. They need to earn their scars for their fellow Man and then dare face me with their two-faced labels.

If I had been a racist or a hater, woe upon them all. Once when able to see people's faces, I could see their fear even while they thanked me for my service to them for they worried that I felt the desire to harm myself or them. If you're going to label me, then call it right, cowards- if I'm anything, it would be misanthropist. I absolutely loathe the selfish lowliness that is so much a part of Humanity regardless of race, gender or creed. And I fully intend on leaving everyone here so they can suffer further at the hands of their fellow.

"The two sides in this war deserve each other. The rest of us deserve to be free of both of them."
Oh no you don't, you don't get off so easily. No one is truly innocent and you fully deserve to also suffer the torture. Remember, no man is an island and we're all part of the vicious cycles that we all help keep in motion with our every selfish tyranny, great and small, that we knowingly or ignorantly impose upon another. These wheels set in motion even greater wheels of tyrannies' torture. You all like to bandy about some one's death diminishes, but I notice this only concerns their demise and not their suffering leading up to it. So if you're all about no one is an island, then it's only right that everyone suffers along with their fellows. For it's our standing by, with our sentiments shock stricken, that allows it to continue. Or is that not what you meant with your lofty poetic lip service? Seeing ignorant smucks like you, who needs enemies? At least they would give me a chance at a worthwhile fight, while you all would do me in mindlessly without even a thought about it. Save your pious pearl clutching and lofty words to make yourself look virtuous at my funeral.
~~AshWurthing (inspired by Will Dockery and General Zod)

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On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:10:31 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:02:42 PM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:03:21 AM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> >> > > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:27:51 AM UTC-4, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > There have been people calling me a racist and a misogynist.
> >> > > There are pretty good reasons for that to be happening. Go to Hell..
> >> > Troll much, Dink?
> >> >
> >>
> >> You do.
>
> > Says Dink, one of the biggest trolls on Usenet.
>
> >> You should stop, but you obviously never will unless death
>
> > Your ongoing death fantasy is noted.
>
> > And so it goes.
> Dink is merely a troll... that is what trolls do...!

Exactly.

🙂

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On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 9:57:24 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:10:31 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:02:42 PM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> > >> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:03:21 AM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> > >> > > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:27:51 AM UTC-4, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > There have been people calling me a racist and a misogynist.
> > >> > > There are pretty good reasons for that to be happening. Go to Hell.
> > >> > Troll much, Dink?
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> You do.
> >
> > > Says Dink, one of the biggest trolls on Usenet.
> >
> > >> You should stop, but you obviously never will unless death
> >
> > > Your ongoing death fantasy is noted.
> >
> > > And so it goes.
> > Dink is merely a troll... that is what trolls do...!
> Exactly.

Lol. I'll just make a Zod and Willy troll thread of it instead to bump for the next year or so...

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On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 3:22:16 AM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 9:57:24 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:10:31 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:02:42 PM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> > > >> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:03:21 AM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> > > >> > > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:27:51 AM UTC-4, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > There have been people calling me a racist and a misogynist.
> > > >> > > There are pretty good reasons for that to be happening. Go to Hell.
> > > >> > Troll much, Dink?
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> You do.
> > >
> > > > Says Dink, one of the biggest trolls on Usenet.
> > >
> > > >> You should stop, but you obviously never will unless death
> > >
> > > > Your ongoing death fantasy is noted.
> > >
> > > > And so it goes.
> > > Dink is merely a troll... that is what trolls do...!
> > Exactly.
> Lol. I'll just make a
> troll thread of it

At least you admit it.

🙂

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Thu, 18 Aug 2022 22:57 UTC

On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 3:49:14 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 3:22:16 AM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 9:57:24 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:10:31 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:02:42 PM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> > > > >> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:03:21 AM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> > > > >> > > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:27:51 AM UTC-4, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > There have been people calling me a racist and a misogynist.
> > > > >> > > There are pretty good reasons for that to be happening. Go to Hell.
> > > > >> > Troll much, Dink?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You do.
> > > >
> > > > > Says Dink, one of the biggest trolls on Usenet.
> > > >
> > > > >> You should stop, but you obviously never will unless death
> > > >
> > > > > Your ongoing death fantasy is noted.
> > > >
> > > > > And so it goes.
> > > > Dink is merely a troll... that is what trolls do...!
> > > Exactly.
> > Lol. I'll just make a
> > troll thread of it
>
> At least you admit it.

No, you're putting words into my mouth. Because it this was THE ACTUAL ADMISSION by me, and not tampered with by an dishonest poster named Will Dockery,,, you would had not removed the part that I will be doing what you already do, deceiver!

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 18 Aug 2022 23:02 UTC

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:57:18 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 3:49:14 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 3:22:16 AM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 9:57:24 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:10:31 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:02:42 PM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:03:21 AM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> > > > > >> > > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:27:51 AM UTC-4, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > There have been people calling me a racist and a misogynist.
> > > > > >> > > There are pretty good reasons for that to be happening. Go to Hell.
> > > > > >> > Troll much, Dink?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> You do.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Says Dink, one of the biggest trolls on Usenet.
> > > > >
> > > > > >> You should stop, but you obviously never will unless death
> > > > >
> > > > > > Your ongoing death fantasy is noted.
> > > > >
> > > > > > And so it goes.
> > > > > Dink is merely a troll... that is what trolls do...!
> > > > Exactly.
> > > Lol. I'll just make a
> > > troll thread of it
> >
> > At least you admit it.
> No, you're putting words into my mouth

Look who's talking.

You're constantly making up things and attributing my name to them, Ash.

I didn't do that, but actually quoted your own words.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Fri, 19 Aug 2022 00:45 UTC

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 7:02:50 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 6:57:18 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 3:49:14 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 3:22:16 AM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 9:57:24 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 7:10:31 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:02:42 PM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> > > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 6:15:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> > On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 1:03:21 AM UTC-4, Family Guy wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:27:51 AM UTC-4, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > > There have been people calling me a racist and a misogynist.
> > > > > > >> > > There are pretty good reasons for that to be happening. Go to Hell.
> > > > > > >> > Troll much, Dink?
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> You do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Says Dink, one of the biggest trolls on Usenet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> You should stop, but you obviously never will unless death
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your ongoing death fantasy is noted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > And so it goes.
> > > > > > Dink is merely a troll... that is what trolls do...!
> > > > > Exactly.
> > > > Lol. I'll just make a
> > > > troll thread of it
> > >
> > > At least you admit it.
> > No, you're putting words into my mouth
> Look who's talking.
>
> You're constantly making up things and attributing my name to them, Ash.

This is so precious, lil swilly Willy, the illiterate hill billy!
I'm attributing your name to things, how hilarious!
I comment on your behavior which is plain as day to be seen from the posts I respond to!

> I didn't do that, but actually quoted your own words.

And you say post editing me is quoting me? You do know that deliberately presenting incomplete (to misrepresent) or altered statements as something some actually said is called putting words in someone's mouth, misrepresenting and lying about a fact- of what someone _specifically_ said. I would have your ass in court!

If you were to actually quote me, it should had been:

"Lol. I'll just make a Zod and Willy troll thread of it instead to bump for the next year or so... "

Why do you always have to hide the truth from people? What are you so afraid of?

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Again, look who's talking.

Ash, you've been lying about me for a year, now.

Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash?

🙂

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On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:27:51 AM UTC-4, ibsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> There have been people calling me a racist and a misogynist. These people are crying wolf. If you call someone a racist or a misogynist who isn’t, you become not credible when a real racist or a real misogynist appears.
>
> Obviously these people haven’t dealt with real racists and real misogynists. I have. Real misogynists call me a p*ssy-whipped idiot. Real racists call me a dirty Jew. I haven’t seen these people confront either. Instead they attack someone who’s easy to attack while doing nothing to fight real wrongdoers.
>
> If I had been a racist or a misogynist, I wouldn’t care that I was called such things. I would have believed that being a racist or a misogynist was the way to go. Instead it bothers me that some people call me such things; so I am not a racist or a misogynist.
>
> The people who say such things aren’t better than real racists or real misogynists. They have been tearing families apart for unsubstantiated allegations. They have been getting people fired for looking at a female co-worker the wrong way. They have been teaching women to be horrible people and to be ugly to men. The two sides in this war deserve each other. The rest of us deserve to be free of both of them.
>
> I am not going to side with racists and misogynists. But don’t expect me to side with these people either.

Perhaps you might consider an announcement post that can go on the appropriate sites.

Here is mine:

****

> Forgery & Identity Theft Announcement from Will Dockery (2021)
>
> Looks like a good time to re-post this too many tonight to label individually, so... a forgery notice to all my friends:
>
> I want to let you know we have a vicious troll online making nasty attacks even forgery of my name. If you get any of these forgeries with misogyny, racism and worse, under my name or other, friends and family. Be aware that it is not me or another friend, but a forgery, identity theft by a malicious impostor troll.
>
> Thanks, as ever, I remain the real Will Dockery:
> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/

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On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 8:53:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Again, look who's talking.
>
> Ash, you've been lying about me for a year, now.
>
> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash?

Well, then sWilly, produce some proof...
Me calling you an ass and other assorted asseverations is my opinion. But you sure take offense so am I striking a guilty conscious?

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Subject: Re: False accusations of racism and misogyny
From: will.doc...@gmail.com (Will Dockery)
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 by: Will Dockery - Fri, 19 Aug 2022 02:40 UTC

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 10:32:22 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 8:53:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Again, look who's talking.
> >
> > Ash, you've been lying about me for a year, now.
> >
> > Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash?
> Well, then sWilly, produce some proof...
> Me calling you an ass and other assorted asseverations is my opinion. But you sure take offense so am I striking a guilty conscious?

You've made up and falsely attributed me for a year, now, Ash.

Yes, I can prove it.

🙂


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