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 by: BTR1701 - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 22:17 UTC

They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 23:11 UTC

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>

>https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16

Pay Williams to compose for the new movie?

.. . . and McClouded that horseback chase in New York! I don't think I'll
be able to suspend disbelief for a horse galloping toward an oncoming
train as I don't think a horse could be trained to do that.

The "golfcart" chase, not sure what those vehicles were supposed to be,
looked all CGI, what with both rocking at the same time.

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 by: BTR1701 - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 23:32 UTC

On Dec 1, 2022 at 3:11:28 PM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
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>> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
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>>
>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
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> Pay Williams to compose for the new movie?

Williams did compose the score for the film. It's his final film score ever.
(THE FABELMAN'S preceded it by a few months.)

This is just trailer trash music the marketing people put together on a synth
over booming electronic drums. Bleh.

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 by: anim8rfsk - Fri, 2 Dec 2022 04:12 UTC

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
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>
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
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What the Hell is he doing still fighting Nazis? Shouldn’t they be in about
1980 by now?

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>On Dec 1, 2022 at 3:11:28 PM PST, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>>They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>

>>>https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16

>>Pay Williams to compose for the new movie?

>Williams did compose the score for the film. It's his final film score ever.
>(THE FABELMAN'S preceded it by a few months.)

Ah. Perhaps I'll drag myself to a theater to see it just to honor John
Williams. The trailer did not do it for me.

>This is just trailer trash music the marketing people put together on a synth
>over booming electronic drums. Bleh.

I see what you mean.

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On 2022-12-02 04:12:59 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
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> What the Hell is he doing still fighting Nazis? Shouldn’t they be in about
> 1980 by now?

Some of the scenes in the trailer are from the earlier movies because
they are remembering past events.

Reportedly, Indy 5 is set in the 1960s, about 12 years after "Kingdom
of teh Crystal Skull". Empire says it's 1969 during the Russia-US space
race, which would be right since Crystal Skull was set in 1957.

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On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 21:12:59 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
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>What the Hell is he doing still fighting Nazis? Shouldn’t they be in about
>1980 by now?

I just read an article the other day saying they're using de-aging
technology to make Ford look like he did in the original movies. The
younger Ford scenes are flashbacks but current scenes he'll look his age..

It's supposed to be much improved from earlier attempts like what was used
in Netflix's The Irishman to make DeNiro, Pacino and Pesci, etc, look
younger.

Might be some spoilers:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/indiana-jones-5-filmmakers-discuss-210832659.html

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On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 11:13:04 PM UTC-5, anim8rfsk wrote:
> BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
> > They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
> >
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> What the Hell is he doing still fighting Nazis?

Are you kidding? This is Hollywood and Spielberg and Ford.

There are ALWAYS Nazis. Like a LOT.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Like+a+lot%22+chappelle

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On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:38:23 AM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 11:13:04 PM UTC-5, anim8rfsk wrote:
> > BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
> > >
> > >
> > https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
>
>
>
> > What the Hell is he doing still fighting Nazis?
> Are you kidding? This is Hollywood and Spielberg and Ford.
>
>
>
> There are ALWAYS Nazis. Like a LOT.
>
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Like+a+lot%22+chappelle

https://www.thejc.com/news/all/how-jewish-is-harrison-ford-1.2943

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EGK <memyself@null.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 21:12:59 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
>>>
>>>
>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
>>>
>>
>> What the Hell is he doing still fighting Nazis? Shouldn’t they be in about
>> 1980 by now?
>
> I just read an article the other day saying they're using de-aging
> technology to make Ford look like he did in the original movies. The
> younger Ford scenes are flashbacks but current scenes he'll look his age..
>
> It's supposed to be much improved from earlier attempts like what was used
> in Netflix's The Irishman to make DeNiro, Pacino and Pesci, etc, look
> younger.
>
> Might be some spoilers:
> https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/indiana-jones-5-filmmakers-discuss-210832659.html
>

Cool, thanks

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On Dec 2, 2022 at 4:17:40 AM PST, "EGK" <memyself@null.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 21:12:59 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
>>>
>>
>> What the Hell is he doing still fighting Nazis? Shouldn’t they be in about
>> 1980 by now?
>
> I just read an article the other day saying they're using de-aging
> technology to make Ford look like he did in the original movies. The
> younger Ford scenes are flashbacks but current scenes he'll look his age..
>
> It's supposed to be much improved from earlier attempts like what was used
> in Netflix's The Irishman to make DeNiro, Pacino and Pesci, etc, look
> younger.

The tech to do this has become scarily good. When I saw that opening scene in
TERMINATOR: DARK FATE, where a young T2-era Sarah Connor is sitting in a
cantina watching John chat up a girl and an Arnold-model T-800 walks up and
shoots John, the de-aging effects were so seamless and believable that I
didn't even realize what I was watching at first. I thought it was just some
unused footage from T2 that they resurrected and stuck in the new movie. Only
later did I find out that was all done with de-aging algorithms in computers.

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 by: anim8rfsk - Fri, 2 Dec 2022 21:54 UTC

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2022 at 4:17:40 AM PST, "EGK" <memyself@null.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 21:12:59 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
>>>>
>>>
>>> What the Hell is he doing still fighting Nazis? Shouldn’t they be in about
>>> 1980 by now?
>>
>> I just read an article the other day saying they're using de-aging
>> technology to make Ford look like he did in the original movies. The
>> younger Ford scenes are flashbacks but current scenes he'll look his age..
>>
>> It's supposed to be much improved from earlier attempts like what was used
>> in Netflix's The Irishman to make DeNiro, Pacino and Pesci, etc, look
>> younger.
>
> The tech to do this has become scarily good. When I saw that opening scene in
TERMINATOR: DARK FATE, where a young T2-era Sarah Connor is sitting in a
cantina watching John chat up a girl and an Arnold-model T-800 walks up and
shoots John, the de-aging effects were so seamless and believable that I
didn't even realize what I was watching at first. I thought it was just
some
unused footage from T2 that they resurrected and stuck in the new
movie.

Ditto

Only
later did I find out that was all done with de-aging algorithms in
computers.
>

There are several apps like that on the iPhone. Put one persons face over
another, leave the persons face intact but animate it, run the slider
back-and-forth to make the person younger and older. Most of the damn
things are free. You might like to try playing with REFACE.

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On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 14:54:15 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 2, 2022 at 4:17:40 AM PST, "EGK" <memyself@null.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 21:12:59 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What the Hell is he doing still fighting Nazis? Shouldn’t they be in about
>>>> 1980 by now?
>>>
>>> I just read an article the other day saying they're using de-aging
>>> technology to make Ford look like he did in the original movies. The
>>> younger Ford scenes are flashbacks but current scenes he'll look his age..
>>>
>>> It's supposed to be much improved from earlier attempts like what was used
>>> in Netflix's The Irishman to make DeNiro, Pacino and Pesci, etc, look
>>> younger.
>>
>> The tech to do this has become scarily good. When I saw that opening scene in
>TERMINATOR: DARK FATE, where a young T2-era Sarah Connor is sitting in a
>cantina watching John chat up a girl and an Arnold-model T-800 walks up and
>shoots John, the de-aging effects were so seamless and believable that I
>didn't even realize what I was watching at first. I thought it was just
>some
>unused footage from T2 that they resurrected and stuck in the new
>movie.
>
>Ditto
>
>
>
>Only
>later did I find out that was all done with de-aging algorithms in
>computers.
>>
>
>There are several apps like that on the iPhone. Put one persons face over
>another, leave the persons face intact but animate it, run the slider
>back-and-forth to make the person younger and older. Most of the damn
>things are free. You might like to try playing with REFACE.

Well, this doesn't sound good at all if true. Basically says that It's not
flashbacks but Indy goes back in time and sacrifices himself so the old Indy
ceases to exist because of it. Thus opening the way for a female to take
over the role.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8395JgNJ0sg&t=473s

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In article <jltkohdr57dvib4aoo8enhpan2b30i6dcp@4ax.com>,
EGK <memyself@null.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 14:54:15 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >> On Dec 2, 2022 at 4:17:40 AM PST, "EGK" <memyself@null.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 21:12:59 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >>>>> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080
> >>>>>> /IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What the Hell is he doing still fighting Nazis? Shouldn�t they be in
> >>>> about 1980 by now?
> >>>
> >>> I just read an article the other day saying they're using de-aging
> >>> technology to make Ford look like he did in the original movies. The
> >>> younger Ford scenes are flashbacks but current scenes he'll look his
> >>> age..
> >>>
> >>> It's supposed to be much improved from earlier attempts like what was
> >>> used in Netflix's The Irishman to make DeNiro, Pacino and Pesci, etc,
> >>> look younger.
> >>
> >> The tech to do this has become scarily good. When I saw that opening
> >> scene in TERMINATOR: DARK FATE, where a young T2-era Sarah Connor is
> >> sitting in a cantina watching John chat up a girl and an Arnold-model
> >> T-800 walks up and shoots John, the de-aging effects were so seamless
> >> and believable that I didn't even realize what I was watching at first.
> >> I thought it was just some unused footage from T2 that they resurrected
> >> and stuck in the new movie.
> >
> >Ditto

> >> Only later did I find out that was all done with de-aging algorithms in
> >> computers.
> >>
> >There are several apps like that on the iPhone. Put one persons face over
> >another, leave the persons face intact but animate it, run the slider
> >back-and-forth to make the person younger and older. Most of the damn
> >things are free. You might like to try playing with REFACE.
>
> Well, this doesn't sound good at all if true. Basically says that It's not
> flashbacks but Indy goes back in time and sacrifices himself so the old Indy
> ceases to exist because of it. Thus opening the way for a female to take
> over the role.:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8395JgNJ0sg&t=473s

So are they pretending "Indiana Jones" a title, not a name, so they can
put chicks and other minorities in the role from now on, like they've
done with Thor?

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In article <atropos-AAD598.14282402122022@news.giganews.com>, BTR1701
<atropos@mac.com> wrote:

> In article <jltkohdr57dvib4aoo8enhpan2b30i6dcp@4ax.com>,
> EGK <memyself@null.net> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 14:54:15 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > >BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> > >> On Dec 2, 2022 at 4:17:40 AM PST, "EGK" <memyself@null.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 21:12:59 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x10
> > >>>>>> 80
> > >>>>>> /IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> What the Hell is he doing still fighting Nazis? Shouldnít they be in
> > >>>> about 1980 by now?
> > >>>
> > >>> I just read an article the other day saying they're using de-aging
> > >>> technology to make Ford look like he did in the original movies. The
> > >>> younger Ford scenes are flashbacks but current scenes he'll look his
> > >>> age..
> > >>>
> > >>> It's supposed to be much improved from earlier attempts like what was
> > >>> used in Netflix's The Irishman to make DeNiro, Pacino and Pesci, etc,
> > >>> look younger.
> > >>
> > >> The tech to do this has become scarily good. When I saw that opening
> > >> scene in TERMINATOR: DARK FATE, where a young T2-era Sarah Connor is
> > >> sitting in a cantina watching John chat up a girl and an Arnold-model
> > >> T-800 walks up and shoots John, the de-aging effects were so seamless
> > >> and believable that I didn't even realize what I was watching at first.
> > >> I thought it was just some unused footage from T2 that they resurrected
> > >> and stuck in the new movie.
> > >
> > >Ditto
>
> > >> Only later did I find out that was all done with de-aging algorithms in
> > >> computers.
> > >>
> > >There are several apps like that on the iPhone. Put one persons face over
> > >another, leave the persons face intact but animate it, run the slider
> > >back-and-forth to make the person younger and older. Most of the damn
> > >things are free. You might like to try playing with REFACE.
> >
> > Well, this doesn't sound good at all if true. Basically says that It's not
> > flashbacks but Indy goes back in time and sacrifices himself so the old Indy
> > ceases to exist because of it. Thus opening the way for a female to take
> > over the role.:
>
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8395JgNJ0sg&t=473s
>
> So are they pretending "Indiana Jones" a title, not a name, so they can
> put chicks and other minorities in the role from now on, like they've
> done with Thor?

"Chicks" are not a minority. Several actors have already played
Indiana Jones at various ages, so nothing new there. I don't see why,
say, the original's granddaughter couldn't inherit the name and the
job. Might be fun to watch.

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In article <021220221829305117%nope@noway.com>,
A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:

> In article <atropos-AAD598.14282402122022@news.giganews.com>, BTR1701
> <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <jltkohdr57dvib4aoo8enhpan2b30i6dcp@4ax.com>,
> > EGK <memyself@null.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 14:54:15 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> > > >> On Dec 2, 2022 at 4:17:40 AM PST, "EGK" <memyself@null.net> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 21:12:59 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>

> > > >>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x
> > > >>>>>> 1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> What the Hell is he doing still fighting Nazis? Shouldn't they be in
> > > >>>> about 1980 by now?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I just read an article the other day saying they're using de-aging
> > > >>> technology to make Ford look like he did in the original movies. The
> > > >>> younger Ford scenes are flashbacks but current scenes he'll look his
> > > >>> age..
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It's supposed to be much improved from earlier attempts like what was
> > > >>> used in Netflix's The Irishman to make DeNiro, Pacino and Pesci, etc,
> > > >>> look younger.
> > > >>
> > > >> The tech to do this has become scarily good. When I saw that opening
> > > >> scene in TERMINATOR: DARK FATE, where a young T2-era Sarah Connor is
> > > >> sitting in a cantina watching John chat up a girl and an Arnold-model
> > > >> T-800 walks up and shoots John, the de-aging effects were so seamless
> > > >> and believable that I didn't even realize what I was watching at
> > > >> first. I thought it was just some unused footage from T2 that they
> > > >> resurrected and stuck in the new movie.
> > > >
> > > > Ditto
> >
> > > >> Only later did I find out that was all done with de-aging algorithms
> > > >> in computers.
> > > >>
> > > > There are several apps like that on the iPhone. Put one persons face
> > > > over another, leave the persons face intact but animate it, run the
> > > > slider back-and-forth to make the person younger and older. Most of
> > > > the damn things are free. You might like to try playing with REFACE.
> > >
> > > Well, this doesn't sound good at all if true. Basically says that It's
> > > not flashbacks but Indy goes back in time and sacrifices himself so the
> > > old Indy ceases to exist because of it. Thus opening the way for a
> > > female to take ver the role.:
> >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8395JgNJ0sg&t=473s
> >
> > So are they pretending "Indiana Jones" is a title, not a name, so they can
> > put chicks and other minorities in the role from now on, like they've
> > done with Thor?
>
> "Chicks" are not a minority.

They are under federal employment law (and the laws of many, if not all,
states).

> Might be fun to watch.

I don't find anything fun about Hollywood's current obsession with
taking beloved characters from past films, books, and other media and
race-changing and gender-changing them.

If they want to tell action adventure stories or spy stories or
superhero stories with female (or black, or handicapped, or whatever)
leads, create new franchises around them. There's no reason it has to be
done with Thor or Indiana Jones or James Bond.

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On 2022-12-02 22:08:00 +0000, EGK said:
> On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 14:54:15 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> On Dec 2, 2022 at 4:17:40 AM PST, "EGK" <memyself@null.net> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 21:12:59 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What the Hell is he doing still fighting Nazis? Shouldn’t they be in
>>>>> about 1980 by now?
>>>>
>>>> I just read an article the other day saying they're using de-aging
>>>> technology to make Ford look like he did in the original movies. The
>>>> younger Ford scenes are flashbacks but current scenes he'll look his age..
>>>>
>>>> It's supposed to be much improved from earlier attempts like what was
>>>> used in Netflix's The Irishman to make DeNiro, Pacino and Pesci, etc,
>>>> look younger.
>>>
>>> The tech to do this has become scarily good. When I saw that opening
>>> scene in TERMINATOR: DARK FATE, where a young T2-era Sarah Connor is
>>> sitting in a cantina watching John chat up a girl and an Arnold-model
>>> T-800 walks up and shoots John, the de-aging effects were so seamless
>>> and believable that I didn't even realize what I was watching at first.
>>> I thought it was just some unused footage from T2 that they resurrected
>>> and stuck in the new movie.
>>>
>>> Ditto
>>>
>>> Only later did I find out that was all done with de-aging algorithms in
>>> computers.
>>
>> There are several apps like that on the iPhone. Put one persons face over
>> another, leave the persons face intact but animate it, run the slider
>> back-and-forth to make the person younger and older. Most of the damn
>> things are free. You might like to try playing with REFACE.
>
> Well, this doesn't sound good at all if true. Basically says that It's not
> flashbacks but Indy goes back in time and sacrifices himself so the old Indy
> ceases to exist because of it. Thus opening the way for a female to take
> over the role.:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8395JgNJ0sg&t=473s

That's conspiracy nutter nonsense.

Actual facts ...

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny will digitally
de-age star Harrison Ford for the movie's first scene.

It's the first scene set in the past in order to give some history
behind the new movie's storyline.

The same has happened in "The Last Crusade" with a young Indiana Jones
before coming back to "the present" and the older Indy.

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On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:23:33 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:
> On Thursday, 1 December 2022 at 17:17:34 UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> > They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
> >
> >
> > https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
> Looks ok, but I was never much of a fan of the original. Mostly because I didn't care if they beat the Nazis.

The original Indiana Jones film was a neurotic Jewish wet dream similar to Inglourious Basterds.

The Hollywood Jewish studio along with Jewish Spielberg and Jewish Ford made a film about the Jewish god's triumphant victory over the Jewish enemy. The god in a box isn't a red herring, the ark of the covenant is central to Jewish religious rites.

I re-watched the original recently, its on the AFI list of top 100 films. I enjoyed it, it is fast paced, has decent character development, an interesting plot, a likeable action hero and a pretty female lead.

But underneath it all, it is still a Jewish wet-dream fantasy to satisfy a Jewish neurosis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXeHnvImcMk

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On 12/1/22 4:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
>
>
> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16

Your musical taste is as horseshitty as your politics.

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 by: trotsky - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 10:08 UTC

On 12/2/22 4:28 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <jltkohdr57dvib4aoo8enhpan2b30i6dcp@4ax.com>,
> EGK <memyself@null.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 14:54:15 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> On Dec 2, 2022 at 4:17:40 AM PST, "EGK" <memyself@null.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 21:12:59 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080
>>>>>>>> /IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What the Hell is he doing still fighting Nazis? Shouldn’t they be in
>>>>>> about 1980 by now?
>>>>>
>>>>> I just read an article the other day saying they're using de-aging
>>>>> technology to make Ford look like he did in the original movies. The
>>>>> younger Ford scenes are flashbacks but current scenes he'll look his
>>>>> age..
>>>>>
>>>>> It's supposed to be much improved from earlier attempts like what was
>>>>> used in Netflix's The Irishman to make DeNiro, Pacino and Pesci, etc,
>>>>> look younger.
>>>>
>>>> The tech to do this has become scarily good. When I saw that opening
>>>> scene in TERMINATOR: DARK FATE, where a young T2-era Sarah Connor is
>>>> sitting in a cantina watching John chat up a girl and an Arnold-model
>>>> T-800 walks up and shoots John, the de-aging effects were so seamless
>>>> and believable that I didn't even realize what I was watching at first.
>>>> I thought it was just some unused footage from T2 that they resurrected
>>>> and stuck in the new movie.
>>>
>>> Ditto
>
>>>> Only later did I find out that was all done with de-aging algorithms in
>>>> computers.
>>>>
>>> There are several apps like that on the iPhone. Put one persons face over
>>> another, leave the persons face intact but animate it, run the slider
>>> back-and-forth to make the person younger and older. Most of the damn
>>> things are free. You might like to try playing with REFACE.
>>
>> Well, this doesn't sound good at all if true. Basically says that It's not
>> flashbacks but Indy goes back in time and sacrifices himself so the old Indy
>> ceases to exist because of it. Thus opening the way for a female to take
>> over the role.:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8395JgNJ0sg&t=473s
>
> So are they pretending "Indiana Jones" a title,

Maybe you should think about buying a verb.

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On 12/2/22 5:29 PM, A Friend wrote:
> In article <atropos-AAD598.14282402122022@news.giganews.com>, BTR1701
> <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <jltkohdr57dvib4aoo8enhpan2b30i6dcp@4ax.com>,
>> EGK <memyself@null.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 14:54:15 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Dec 2, 2022 at 4:17:40 AM PST, "EGK" <memyself@null.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 21:12:59 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x10
>>>>>>>>> 80
>>>>>>>>> /IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What the Hell is he doing still fighting Nazis? Shouldnít they be in
>>>>>>> about 1980 by now?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just read an article the other day saying they're using de-aging
>>>>>> technology to make Ford look like he did in the original movies. The
>>>>>> younger Ford scenes are flashbacks but current scenes he'll look his
>>>>>> age..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's supposed to be much improved from earlier attempts like what was
>>>>>> used in Netflix's The Irishman to make DeNiro, Pacino and Pesci, etc,
>>>>>> look younger.
>>>>>
>>>>> The tech to do this has become scarily good. When I saw that opening
>>>>> scene in TERMINATOR: DARK FATE, where a young T2-era Sarah Connor is
>>>>> sitting in a cantina watching John chat up a girl and an Arnold-model
>>>>> T-800 walks up and shoots John, the de-aging effects were so seamless
>>>>> and believable that I didn't even realize what I was watching at first.
>>>>> I thought it was just some unused footage from T2 that they resurrected
>>>>> and stuck in the new movie.
>>>>
>>>> Ditto
>>
>>>>> Only later did I find out that was all done with de-aging algorithms in
>>>>> computers.
>>>>>
>>>> There are several apps like that on the iPhone. Put one persons face over
>>>> another, leave the persons face intact but animate it, run the slider
>>>> back-and-forth to make the person younger and older. Most of the damn
>>>> things are free. You might like to try playing with REFACE.
>>>
>>> Well, this doesn't sound good at all if true. Basically says that It's not
>>> flashbacks but Indy goes back in time and sacrifices himself so the old Indy
>>> ceases to exist because of it. Thus opening the way for a female to take
>>> over the role.:
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8395JgNJ0sg&t=473s
>>
>> So are they pretending "Indiana Jones" a title, not a name, so they can
>> put chicks and other minorities in the role from now on, like they've
>> done with Thor?
>
>
> "Chicks" are not a minority. Several actors have already played
> Indiana Jones at various ages, so nothing new there. I don't see why,
> say, the original's granddaughter couldn't inherit the name and the
> job. Might be fun to watch.

Sure, but not necessarily for white male right wing assholes. House
flies threaten their manhood.

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On 12/2/22 6:23 PM, RichA wrote:
> On Thursday, 1 December 2022 at 17:17:34 UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
>> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
>>
>>
>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
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> Looks ok, but I was never much of a fan of the original. Mostly because I didn't care if they beat the Nazis.

That makes sense. Lawrence Kasdan's script for that movie was
fantastic, so it makes sense that you don't like it.

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On 12/3/2022 3:30 AM, chromebook test wrote:
> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:23:33 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:
>> On Thursday, 1 December 2022 at 17:17:34 UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
>> Looks ok, but I was never much of a fan of the original. Mostly because I didn't care if they beat the Nazis.
>
>
> The original Indiana Jones film was a neurotic Jewish wet dream similar to Inglourious Basterds.
>
> The Hollywood Jewish studio along with Jewish Spielberg and Jewish Ford made a film about the Jewish god's triumphant victory over the Jewish enemy. The god in a box isn't a red herring, the ark of the covenant is central to Jewish religious rites.
>
> I re-watched the original recently, its on the AFI list of top 100 films. I enjoyed it, it is fast paced, has decent character development, an interesting plot, a likeable action hero and a pretty female lead.
>
> But underneath it all, it is still a Jewish wet-dream fantasy to satisfy a Jewish neurosis.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXeHnvImcMk

What fairy tale *isn't* somebody's "wet-dream fantasy"?

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 by: chromebook test - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 16:23 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 10:52:28 AM UTC-5, moviePig wrote:
> On 12/3/2022 3:30 AM, chromebook test wrote:
> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:23:33 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:
> >> On Thursday, 1 December 2022 at 17:17:34 UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
> >> Looks ok, but I was never much of a fan of the original. Mostly because I didn't care if they beat the Nazis.
> >
> >
> > The original Indiana Jones film was a neurotic Jewish wet dream similar to Inglourious Basterds.
> >
> > The Hollywood Jewish studio along with Jewish Spielberg and Jewish Ford made a film about the Jewish god's triumphant victory over the Jewish enemy. The god in a box isn't a red herring, the ark of the covenant is central to Jewish religious rites.
> >
> > I re-watched the original recently, its on the AFI list of top 100 films. I enjoyed it, it is fast paced, has decent character development, an interesting plot, a likeable action hero and a pretty female lead.
> >
> > But underneath it all, it is still a Jewish wet-dream fantasy to satisfy a Jewish neurosis.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXeHnvImcMk

> What fairy tale *isn't* somebody's "wet-dream fantasy"?

I'm not disputing that. But how many Hollywood films have the Natzis in the plot? How many Hollywood films have the Nakba in their plot?

To Spielberg's credit, he did try with 'Munich' but has had to spend the rest of his career repenting for that one. Eric Bana was excellent in the lead.

https://hyperallergic.com/653645/muscular-judaism-in-film/

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On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 11:23:43 AM UTC-5, chromebook test wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 10:52:28 AM UTC-5, moviePig wrote:
> > On 12/3/2022 3:30 AM, chromebook test wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:23:33 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:
> > >> On Thursday, 1 December 2022 at 17:17:34 UTC-5, BTR1701 wrote:
> > >>> They Hans Zimmered the Indy theme... <puking emoji>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1598407141051621376/vid/1920x1080/IMsBqslaBPzmH-xe.mp4?tag=16
> > >> Looks ok, but I was never much of a fan of the original. Mostly because I didn't care if they beat the Nazis.
> > >
> > >
> > > The original Indiana Jones film was a neurotic Jewish wet dream similar to Inglourious Basterds.
> > >
> > > The Hollywood Jewish studio along with Jewish Spielberg and Jewish Ford made a film about the Jewish god's triumphant victory over the Jewish enemy. The god in a box isn't a red herring, the ark of the covenant is central to Jewish religious rites.
> > >
> > > I re-watched the original recently, its on the AFI list of top 100 films. I enjoyed it, it is fast paced, has decent character development, an interesting plot, a likeable action hero and a pretty female lead.
> > >
> > > But underneath it all, it is still a Jewish wet-dream fantasy to satisfy a Jewish neurosis.
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXeHnvImcMk
>
>
> > What fairy tale *isn't* somebody's "wet-dream fantasy"?
> I'm not disputing that. But how many Hollywood films have the Natzis in the plot? How many Hollywood films have the Nakba in their plot?

> To Spielberg's credit, he did try with 'Munich' but has had to spend the rest of his career repenting for that one.

SPIEGEL: Were you really aware of the political minefield you were stepping into? Did you deliberately set out to offend -- or at least consciously risk offending -- your many Jewish friends whose admiration for you was almost unlimited following "Schindler's List"?

Spielberg: Believe me, I did not approach the subject naively. I am an American Jew and aware of the sensitivities involved in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

"I Would Die For Israel"
US director Steven Spielberg discusses his controversial new film "Munich," which deals with the aftermath of the massacre of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympics. In an interview with DER SPIEGEL he talks about the moral aspects of dealing with terrorism and responds to critics who claim he's betrayed the Jewish people.
26.01.2006
https://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/spiegel-interview-with-steven-spielberg-i-would-die-for-israel-a-397378.html

TAGS: Schindler's List, more Natzis, How many assholes do we have on this ship, anyway?


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