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 by: shawn - Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:13 UTC

On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:49:07 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:05:31 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, I take that back. It is indeed obviously racist-- the majority of
>>> blacks who apparently believe it's not okay to be white are indeed very
>>> racist. Something tells me that's not the "racism" for which Adams is being
>>> vilified, though.
>>>
>> I dunno - I remember one of the black comedians (Red Buttons I think
>> but not sure) was far more offensive when he put on "the accent" and
>> said "yo is what you is!".
>>
>> To me that was the complete stereotype and just the sort of image most
>> blacks would abhor - it was worse than Amos + Andy that's for sure!
>>
>
>Famed Black Comedian “Red” Buttons
>
>http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1735/596/320/RedButtons.png

Someone who was well known for his efforts to produce comedy that
didn't offend anyone.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:17 UTC

The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:05:31 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>Actually, I take that back. It is indeed obviously racist-- the majority of
>>blacks who apparently believe it's not okay to be white are indeed very
>>racist. Something tells me that's not the "racism" for which Adams is being
>>vilified, though.

>I dunno - I remember one of the black comedians (Red Buttons I think
>but not sure) was far more offensive when he put on "the accent" and
>said "yo is what you is!".

>To me that was the complete stereotype and just the sort of image most
>blacks would abhor - it was worse than Amos + Andy that's for sure!

Freeman Gosden and Charles Correll were not doing caricature accents for
the main characters Andy and the Kingfish (Amos had long been a minor
character) as they based their voices on real people they knew. In early
days, the two of them were voicing all the characters, including women.

The show as adapted for television had an all-black cast and used the
multi-camera setup before I Love Lucy did. Even more important, the show
used black men in production and behind the camera work, and no other
show on television was going to do that.

I really never thought the radio program was all that funny and it could
be mean spirited but neither was it what the NAACP claimed it was in the
early 1950s when the contributed to its cancellation, 'cuz, you know, it
wasn't The Cosby Show.

Whoops. Turns out Bill Cosby wasn't Cliff Huxtable in real life. Oh
well.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:22 UTC

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:49:07 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:05:31 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>>>Actually, I take that back. It is indeed obviously racist-- the majority of
>>>>blacks who apparently believe it's not okay to be white are indeed very
>>>>racist. Something tells me that's not the "racism" for which Adams is being
>>>>vilified, though.

>>>I dunno - I remember one of the black comedians (Red Buttons I think
>>>but not sure) was far more offensive when he put on "the accent" and
>>>said "yo is what you is!".

>>>To me that was the complete stereotype and just the sort of image most
>>>blacks would abhor - it was worse than Amos + Andy that's for sure!

>>Famed Black Comedian “Red” Buttons

>>http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1735/596/320/RedButtons.png

>Someone who was well known for his efforts to produce comedy that
>didn't offend anyone.

That's not how this works! That's not how any of this works!

It's not comedy unless somebody is being made fun of.

I've seen Red Buttons in movies, but I am unfamiliar with his act.

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 by: shawn - Mon, 27 Feb 2023 08:51 UTC

On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:22:44 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:49:07 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:05:31 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>Actually, I take that back. It is indeed obviously racist-- the majority of
>>>>>blacks who apparently believe it's not okay to be white are indeed very
>>>>>racist. Something tells me that's not the "racism" for which Adams is being
>>>>>vilified, though.
>
>>>>I dunno - I remember one of the black comedians (Red Buttons I think
>>>>but not sure) was far more offensive when he put on "the accent" and
>>>>said "yo is what you is!".
>
>>>>To me that was the complete stereotype and just the sort of image most
>>>>blacks would abhor - it was worse than Amos + Andy that's for sure!
>
>>>Famed Black Comedian “Red” Buttons
>
>>>http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1735/596/320/RedButtons.png
>
>>Someone who was well known for his efforts to produce comedy that
>>didn't offend anyone.
>
>That's not how this works! That's not how any of this works!
>
>It's not comedy unless somebody is being made fun of.
>
>I've seen Red Buttons in movies, but I am unfamiliar with his act.

Sorry, I got Red Buttons and Red Skelton confused in my mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqSaUDyg2WY
Red Buttons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSFucXg-FzQ
Red Skelton

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On 2/26/23 11:36 PM, suzeeq wrote:
> On 2/26/2023 9:10 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:05:31 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, I take that back. It is indeed obviously racist-- the
>>> majority of
>>> blacks who apparently believe it's not okay to be white are indeed very
>>> racist. Something tells me that's not the "racism" for which Adams is
>>> being
>>> vilified, though.
>>>
>> I dunno - I remember one of the black comedians (Red Buttons I think
>
> Maybe Redd Foxx? Buttons wasn't black.

I read it as his not really giving a shit because the guy was black.

>> but not sure) was far more offensive when he put on "the accent" and
>> said "yo is what you is!".
>>
>> To me that was the complete stereotype and just the sort of image most
>> blacks would abhor - it was worse than Amos + Andy that's for sure!
>>
>

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 by: anim8rfsk - Mon, 27 Feb 2023 11:20 UTC

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:22:44 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
> <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:49:07 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:05:31 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Actually, I take that back. It is indeed obviously racist-- the majority of
>>>>>> blacks who apparently believe it's not okay to be white are indeed very
>>>>>> racist. Something tells me that's not the "racism" for which Adams is being
>>>>>> vilified, though.
>>
>>>>> I dunno - I remember one of the black comedians (Red Buttons I think
>>>>> but not sure) was far more offensive when he put on "the accent" and
>>>>> said "yo is what you is!".
>>
>>>>> To me that was the complete stereotype and just the sort of image most
>>>>> blacks would abhor - it was worse than Amos + Andy that's for sure!
>>
>>>> Famed Black Comedian “Red” Buttons
>>
>>>> http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1735/596/320/RedButtons.png
>>
>>> Someone who was well known for his efforts to produce comedy that
>>> didn't offend anyone.
>>
>> That's not how this works! That's not how any of this works!
>>
>> It's not comedy unless somebody is being made fun of.
>>
>> I've seen Red Buttons in movies, but I am unfamiliar with his act.
>
> Sorry, I got Red Buttons and Red Skelton confused in my mind.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqSaUDyg2WY
> Red Buttons
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSFucXg-FzQ
> Red Skelton
>

I remember an old SUPERMAN’S GIRLFRIEND LOIS LANE comic book that had a red
skeleton in it, and Lois was saying “who does that red skeleton think he
is, Red Skelton?”

https://comicsarcheology.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/image027.png

Having never heard of famed black comedian Red Skelton, I had no idea what
Lois was talking about. Of course, I never understood why she qualified as
Superman‘s girlfriend given that she was just an annoying reporter, trying
to expose his identity and ruin his life.

https://comicsarcheology.com/index.php/2021/03/01/lois-lane-63/

The guy writing this review never heard of Red Skelton either!

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Mon, 27 Feb 2023 18:56 UTC

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:22:44 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>:
>>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:49:07 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>>On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:05:31 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>>>>>Actually, I take that back. It is indeed obviously racist-- the
>>>>>>majority of blacks who apparently believe it's not okay to be white
>>>>>>are indeed very racist. Something tells me that's not the "racism"
>>>>>>for which Adams is being vilified, though.

>>>>>I dunno - I remember one of the black comedians (Red Buttons I think
>>>>>but not sure) was far more offensive when he put on "the accent" and
>>>>>said "yo is what you is!".

>>>>>To me that was the complete stereotype and just the sort of image most
>>>>>blacks would abhor - it was worse than Amos + Andy that's for sure!

>>>>Famed Black Comedian “Red” Buttons

>>>>http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1735/596/320/RedButtons.png

>>>Someone who was well known for his efforts to produce comedy that
>>>didn't offend anyone.

>>That's not how this works! That's not how any of this works!

>>It's not comedy unless somebody is being made fun of.

>>I've seen Red Buttons in movies, but I am unfamiliar with his act.

>Sorry, I got Red Buttons and Red Skelton confused in my mind.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqSaUDyg2WY
>Red Buttons

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSFucXg-FzQ
>Red Skelton

I am quite familiar with Red Skelton's act from radio and movies in
which his role was pretty similar to one of his radio characters. He
absolutely made fun of people, certainly when playing the Mean Widdle
Kid (although the Kid always got spanked at the end of the routine).
It's said Skelton was entertaining on showboats and the burlesque
circuit starting at age 10. There are also claims he was in vaudeville
but I don't see how he wasn't born too late. He started on radio and
movies in the late 1930s and was a very early television performer.

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 by: suzeeq - Mon, 27 Feb 2023 19:08 UTC

On 2/27/2023 10:56 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:22:44 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>:
>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:49:07 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:05:31 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Actually, I take that back. It is indeed obviously racist-- the
>>>>>>> majority of blacks who apparently believe it's not okay to be white
>>>>>>> are indeed very racist. Something tells me that's not the "racism"
>>>>>>> for which Adams is being vilified, though.
>
>>>>>> I dunno - I remember one of the black comedians (Red Buttons I think
>>>>>> but not sure) was far more offensive when he put on "the accent" and
>>>>>> said "yo is what you is!".
>
>>>>>> To me that was the complete stereotype and just the sort of image most
>>>>>> blacks would abhor - it was worse than Amos + Andy that's for sure!
>
>>>>> Famed Black Comedian “Red” Buttons
>
>>>>> http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1735/596/320/RedButtons.png
>
>>>> Someone who was well known for his efforts to produce comedy that
>>>> didn't offend anyone.
>
>>> That's not how this works! That's not how any of this works!
>
>>> It's not comedy unless somebody is being made fun of.
>
>>> I've seen Red Buttons in movies, but I am unfamiliar with his act.
>
>> Sorry, I got Red Buttons and Red Skelton confused in my mind.
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqSaUDyg2WY
>> Red Buttons
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSFucXg-FzQ
>> Red Skelton
>
> I am quite familiar with Red Skelton's act from radio and movies in
> which his role was pretty similar to one of his radio characters. He
> absolutely made fun of people, certainly when playing the Mean Widdle
> Kid (although the Kid always got spanked at the end of the routine).
> It's said Skelton was entertaining on showboats and the burlesque
> circuit starting at age 10. There are also claims he was in vaudeville
> but I don't see how he wasn't born too late. He started on radio and
> movies in the late 1930s and was a very early television performer.

Vaudeville was still around in the early 1930s, and Red was born in
1913. He did join a traveling medicine show in 1926, then went on to
Vaudeville for several years.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Mon, 27 Feb 2023 20:17 UTC

suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>On 2/27/2023 10:56 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>> Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:22:44 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>:
>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:49:07 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:05:31 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, I take that back. It is indeed obviously racist-- the
>>>>>>>> majority of blacks who apparently believe it's not okay to be white
>>>>>>>> are indeed very racist. Something tells me that's not the "racism"
>>>>>>>> for which Adams is being vilified, though.
>>
>>>>>>> I dunno - I remember one of the black comedians (Red Buttons I think
>>>>>>> but not sure) was far more offensive when he put on "the accent" and
>>>>>>> said "yo is what you is!".
>>
>>>>>>> To me that was the complete stereotype and just the sort of image most
>>>>>>> blacks would abhor - it was worse than Amos + Andy that's for sure!
>>
>>>>>> Famed Black Comedian “Red” Buttons
>>
>>>>>> http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1735/596/320/RedButtons.png
>>
>>>>> Someone who was well known for his efforts to produce comedy that
>>>>> didn't offend anyone.
>>
>>>> That's not how this works! That's not how any of this works!
>>
>>>> It's not comedy unless somebody is being made fun of.
>>
>>>> I've seen Red Buttons in movies, but I am unfamiliar with his act.
>>
>>> Sorry, I got Red Buttons and Red Skelton confused in my mind.
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqSaUDyg2WY
>>> Red Buttons
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSFucXg-FzQ
>>> Red Skelton
>>
>> I am quite familiar with Red Skelton's act from radio and movies in
>> which his role was pretty similar to one of his radio characters. He
>> absolutely made fun of people, certainly when playing the Mean Widdle
>> Kid (although the Kid always got spanked at the end of the routine).
>> It's said Skelton was entertaining on showboats and the burlesque
>> circuit starting at age 10. There are also claims he was in vaudeville
>> but I don't see how he wasn't born too late. He started on radio and
>> movies in the late 1930s and was a very early television performer.
>
>Vaudeville was still around in the early 1930s, and Red was born in
>1913. He did join a traveling medicine show in 1926, then went on to
>Vaudeville for several years.

I'm just pointing out that going into vaudeville that late wasn't going
to allow one to achieve fame and fortune. Even in the silent era,
vaudeville houses were showing movies and I don't think there was much
in the way of bookings from the national circuits by the early 1930s.

George Burns and Jack Benny and Fred Allen were born earlier and performed in
vaudeville proper.

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 by: anim8rfsk - Mon, 27 Feb 2023 21:12 UTC

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> Mon, 27 Feb 2023 06:22:44 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>:
>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:49:07 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:05:31 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Actually, I take that back. It is indeed obviously racist-- the
>>>>>>> majority of blacks who apparently believe it's not okay to be white
>>>>>>> are indeed very racist. Something tells me that's not the "racism"
>>>>>>> for which Adams is being vilified, though.
>
>>>>>> I dunno - I remember one of the black comedians (Red Buttons I think
>>>>>> but not sure) was far more offensive when he put on "the accent" and
>>>>>> said "yo is what you is!".
>
>>>>>> To me that was the complete stereotype and just the sort of image most
>>>>>> blacks would abhor - it was worse than Amos + Andy that's for sure!
>
>>>>> Famed Black Comedian “Red” Buttons
>
>>>>> http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1735/596/320/RedButtons.png
>
>>>> Someone who was well known for his efforts to produce comedy that
>>>> didn't offend anyone.
>
>>> That's not how this works! That's not how any of this works!
>
>>> It's not comedy unless somebody is being made fun of.
>
>>> I've seen Red Buttons in movies, but I am unfamiliar with his act.
>
>> Sorry, I got Red Buttons and Red Skelton confused in my mind.
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqSaUDyg2WY
>> Red Buttons
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSFucXg-FzQ
>> Red Skelton
>
> I am quite familiar with Red Skelton's act from radio and movies in
> which his role was pretty similar to one of his radio characters. He
> absolutely made fun of people, certainly when playing the Mean Widdle
> Kid (although the Kid always got spanked at the end of the routine).
> It's said Skelton was entertaining on showboats and the burlesque
> circuit starting at age 10. There are also claims he was in vaudeville
> but I don't see how he wasn't born too late. He started on radio and
> movies in the late 1930s and was a very early television performer.
>

I mostly remember him from the intro and outro to Those Magnificent Men in
Their Flying Machines or How I Flew from London to Paris in 25 Hours 11
Minutes (1965)

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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 by: David Johnston - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 22:14 UTC

On 2023-02-25 7:05 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
> On Feb 25, 2023 at 2:50:24 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/02/we-are-dropping-the-dilbert-comic-strip-because-of-creator-scott-adams-racist-rant-letter-from-the-editor.html
>>
>> Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert comic strip, went on a racist rant this
>> week on his Coffee with Scott Adams online video show, and we will no
>> longer carry his comic strip in The Plain Dealer.
>
> Hopefully he'll keep it going on his website.
>
> As for the rant, he merely pointed out that polling reveals most black don't
> agree with the statement "It's okay to be white".

Actually only a bit over 20% of them said they don't agree with it. As
to why black people would hesitate to say they agree with it, that's
like saying that Jews would hesitate to say they agree with someone who
says that work makes you free.

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 by: BTR1701 - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 23:04 UTC

In article <ttr74a$dd3g$1@dont-email.me>,
David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 2023-02-25 7:05 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
> > On Feb 25, 2023 at 2:50:24 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/02/we-are-dropping-the-dilbert-comic-st
> >> rip-because-of-creator-scott-adams-racist-rant-letter-from-the-editor.html
> >>
> >> Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert comic strip, went on a racist rant
> >> this week on his Coffee with Scott Adams online video show, and we will
> >> no longer carry his comic strip in The Plain Dealer.
> >
> > Hopefully he'll keep it going on his website.
> >
> > As for the rant, he merely pointed out that polling reveals most black
> > don't agree with the statement "It's okay to be white".
>
> Actually only a bit over 20% of them said they don't agree with it. As
> to why black people would hesitate to say they agree with it, that's
> like saying that Jews would hesitate to say they agree with someone who
> says that work makes you free.

?!?!

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Fri, 3 Mar 2023 01:54 UTC

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>In article <ttr74a$dd3g$1@dont-email.me>,
> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-02-25 7:05 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
>> > On Feb 25, 2023 at 2:50:24 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/02/we-are-dropping-the-dilbert-comic-st
>> >> rip-because-of-creator-scott-adams-racist-rant-letter-from-the-editor.html
>> >>
>> >> Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert comic strip, went on a racist rant
>> >> this week on his Coffee with Scott Adams online video show, and we will
>> >> no longer carry his comic strip in The Plain Dealer.
>> >
>> > Hopefully he'll keep it going on his website.
>> >
>> > As for the rant, he merely pointed out that polling reveals most black
>> > don't agree with the statement "It's okay to be white".
>>
>> Actually only a bit over 20% of them said they don't agree with it. As
>> to why black people would hesitate to say they agree with it, that's
>> like saying that Jews would hesitate to say they agree with someone who
>> says that work makes you free.
>
>?!?!

I'm going to need mime to explain this to me.

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 by: A Friend - Fri, 3 Mar 2023 04:14 UTC

In article <ttrk0e$ej43$2@dont-email.me>, Adam H. Kerman
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >In article <ttr74a$dd3g$1@dont-email.me>,
> > David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2023-02-25 7:05 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
> >> > On Feb 25, 2023 at 2:50:24 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/02/we-are-dropping-the-dilbert-comic-
> >> >> st
> >> >>
> >> >> rip-because-of-creator-scott-adams-racist-rant-letter-from-the-editor.ht
> >> >> ml
> >> >>
> >> >> Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert comic strip, went on a racist rant
> >> >> this week on his Coffee with Scott Adams online video show, and we will
> >> >> no longer carry his comic strip in The Plain Dealer.
> >> >
> >> > Hopefully he'll keep it going on his website.
> >> >
> >> > As for the rant, he merely pointed out that polling reveals most black
> >> > don't agree with the statement "It's okay to be white".
> >>
> >> Actually only a bit over 20% of them said they don't agree with it. As
> >> to why black people would hesitate to say they agree with it, that's
> >> like saying that Jews would hesitate to say they agree with someone who
> >> says that work makes you free.
> >
> >?!?!
>
> I'm going to need mime to explain this to me.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

https://www.thoughtco.com/thmb/Rl4iAo0g6-Jg6FAmm2z92da1K3k=/1500x0/filte
rs:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/GettyImages-5
23635943-2229d8aeb63042648ca37042b77862dd.jpg

https://tinyurl.com/2zs9o2d4

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 by: Ubiquitous - Fri, 3 Mar 2023 09:30 UTC

In article <ttr74a$dd3g$1@dont-email.me>, davidjohnston29@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 2023-02-25 7:05 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Feb 25, 2023 at 2:50:24 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

>>> Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert comic strip, went on a racist rant
>>> this week on his Coffee with Scott Adams online video show, and we will
>>> no longer carry his comic strip in The Plain Dealer.
>>
>> Hopefully he'll keep it going on his website.
>>
>> As for the rant, he merely pointed out that polling reveals most black
>> don't agree with the statement "It's okay to be white".
>
>Actually only a bit over 20% of them said they don't agree with it. As
>to why black people would hesitate to say they agree with it, that's
>like saying that Jews would hesitate to say they agree with someone who
>says that work makes you free.

Nonsequitur noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

--
Let's go Brandon!

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 by: The Horny Goat - Fri, 3 Mar 2023 17:55 UTC

On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 15:04:04 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>> > As for the rant, he merely pointed out that polling reveals most black
>> > don't agree with the statement "It's okay to be white".
>>
>> Actually only a bit over 20% of them said they don't agree with it. As
>> to why black people would hesitate to say they agree with it, that's
>> like saying that Jews would hesitate to say they agree with someone who
>> says that work makes you free.
>
>?!?!

Clearly a riff on the sign over the gates of Auschwitz.

Which is a whopping exaggeration to put it mildly.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Fri, 3 Mar 2023 22:12 UTC

A Friend <A Friend> wrote:
>In article <ttrk0e$ej43$2@dont-email.me>, Adam H. Kerman
><ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> >In article <ttr74a$dd3g$1@dont-email.me>,
>> > David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2023-02-25 7:05 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
>> >> > On Feb 25, 2023 at 2:50:24 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/02/we-are-dropping-the-dilbert-comic-
>> >> >> st
>> >> >>
>> >> >> rip-because-of-creator-scott-adams-racist-rant-letter-from-the-editor.ht
>> >> >> ml
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Scott Adams, creator of the Dilbert comic strip, went on a racist rant
>> >> >> this week on his Coffee with Scott Adams online video show, and we will
>> >> >> no longer carry his comic strip in The Plain Dealer.
>> >> >
>> >> > Hopefully he'll keep it going on his website.
>> >> >
>> >> > As for the rant, he merely pointed out that polling reveals most black
>> >> > don't agree with the statement "It's okay to be white".
>> >>
>> >> Actually only a bit over 20% of them said they don't agree with it. As
>> >> to why black people would hesitate to say they agree with it, that's
>> >> like saying that Jews would hesitate to say they agree with someone who
>> >> says that work makes you free.
>> >
>> >?!?!
>>
>> I'm going to need mime to explain this to me.

>A picture is worth a thousand words.

>https://www.thoughtco.com/thmb/Rl4iAo0g6-Jg6FAmm2z92da1K3k=/1500x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/GettyImages-523635943-2229d8aeb63042648ca37042b77862dd.jpg

Oh. The front gate.

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 by: Micky DuPree - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 03:03 UTC

The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> writes:

> I dunno - I remember one of the black comedians (Red Buttons I think
> but not sure) was far more offensive when he put on "the accent" and
> said "yo is what you is!".

Redd Foxx, surely. Red Buttons was white.

> To me that was the complete stereotype and just the sort of image most
> blacks would abhor - it was worse than Amos + Andy that's for sure!

There's a difference between making fun within the community and making
fun of it from without. Think about Jeff Fozworthy doing his "You might
be a redneck" shtick -- and all the white people in the audience
laughing.

-Micky


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