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Re: The Countdown

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 by: Blueshirt - Thu, 13 Jul 2023 21:58 UTC

tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 12:41:30 PM UTC-7, Blueshirt wrote:
> >
> > So I conclude, angels are not real and so therefore do not have
> > wings.
>
> But we were discussing fictional vampires with bird parts. In fiction,
> angels can have wings.

Yes Tim, Angels are fiction... but Dave likes to think they are real.

That is where the diversion from fictional Vampires started.

Please keep up at the back.

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 by: Blueshirt - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 00:14 UTC

The Doctor wrote:

> In article <b2a644aa-589c-44e2-b887-426d0b4723cen@googlegroups.com>,
> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbrueni@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > But we were discussing fictional vampires with bird parts. In
> > fiction, angels can have wings.
>
> Good points.

It is a good point and as the Bible is fiction, quite relevant.

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The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:

> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbrueni@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 3:21:45 AM UTC-7, solar
>>> penguin wrote:
>>>> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Tim typed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dracula's feathers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Carmilla’s cloaca!
>>>>>
>>>>> (We are playing “Name a fictional vampire and
>>>>> part of a bird’s anatomy,” aren’t we?)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We seem to’ve gotten distracted and neglected
>>>> the game. Let’s start it up again and see if we can
>>>> get a long cascade of vampires and bird parts.
>>>
>>> LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Orlok’s beak.
>>>
>>> Edward Cullen's Talons.
>>>
>>
>> Queen Camilla’s syrinx.
>>
>> (That’s the Queen Camilla from ‘State of Decay’, not
>> the one Daniel is thinking of!)
>>
>
> Nosferatu’s keel.
>

Spike’s parson’s nose.

--

solar penguin

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 by: The Last Doctor - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 10:17 UTC

tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbrueni@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 12:41:30 PM UTC-7, Blueshirt wrote:
>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:58:45 PM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
>>>> In article <nnd$77414568$631478b0@e9a0a86c862b9675>,
>>>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll go again so... Angels, wings, real, show proof...
>>>>>
>>>>> Your answer ____________________________________
>>>>
>>>> is ...
>>>
>>> You are supposed to write on that line your proof that angels have
>>> wings!
>> Yes Tim, and see how he avoids answering? Typical Yads.
>>
>> So I conclude, angels are not real and so therefore do not have wings.
>>
>> The discussion, as it was, has ended.
>
> But we were discussing fictional vampires with bird parts. In fiction,
> angels can have wings.
>

Indeed so, and frequently do.

However Dave was referring to Biblical angels, which whether fictional or
not (spoiler: they are), did NOT have wings. Wings were added by later
imagineers, the sort of things Dave usually refers to as “Satanist
Corruption” of the Bible - but strangely, when HE believes nonsense that
various groups have tacked on to his religion (cf Hellfire, and indeed
Hell, the Devil, the War in Heaven etc), it’s apparently true even though
it’s NOT in his Bible.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: The Last Doctor - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 10:38 UTC

solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>
>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbrueni@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 3:21:45 AM UTC-7, solar
>>>> penguin wrote:
>>>>> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Tim typed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dracula's feathers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carmilla’s cloaca!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (We are playing “Name a fictional vampire and
>>>>>> part of a bird’s anatomy,” aren’t we?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We seem to’ve gotten distracted and neglected
>>>>> the game. Let’s start it up again and see if we can
>>>>> get a long cascade of vampires and bird parts.
>>>>
>>>> LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> Orlok’s beak.
>>>>
>>>> Edward Cullen's Talons.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Queen Camilla’s syrinx.
>>>
>>> (That’s the Queen Camilla from ‘State of Decay’, not
>>> the one Daniel is thinking of!)
>>>
>>
>> Nosferatu’s keel.
>>
>
> Spike’s parson’s nose.
>

Joshua York’s wattle.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: Daniel65 - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 11:11 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 14/7/23 10:27 am:
> In article <nnd$5e13d227$3ef14903@73d54f9e89fee552>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote:
>>> In article <b2a644aa-589c-44e2-b887-426d0b4723cen@googlegroups.com>,
>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbrueni@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> But we were discussing fictional vampires with bird parts. In
>>>> fiction, angels can have wings.
>>>
>>> Good points.
>>
>> It is a good point and as the Bible is fiction, quite relevant.
>
> Bogus!
>
Ah!! O.K., so The Bible is Bogus!! Good to know.
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 11:16 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 14/7/23 12:29 am:
> In article <u8oo6e$3kv7c$1@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 13/7/23 9:46 am:
>>> In article <nnd$46b54642$6cb86f56@b2603d7a4db40027>, Blueshirt
>>> <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>>> In article <nnd$0e66228e$57a0a980@3e923b4e361a87e3>, Blueshirt
>>>>> <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <nnd$6f6b9589$2048caf6@7108d28ad9618b6a>,
>>>>>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What does that have to do with the possible flying
>>>>>>>>> appendages of angels?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It doesn't! It's just Dave's way of not answering a
>>>>>>>> question. It's what he does. He makes a claim, then when
>>>>>>>> he's asked to back it up, he moves the goal-posts and goes
>>>>>>>> off on a tangent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dave absolutely CANNOT back up his beliefs! He's like an
>>>>>>>> automaton that just blindly parrots what he's been told. He
>>>>>>>> has no free thinking whatsoever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong! You accuse be of being like Stalin!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No Dave, I am right...
>>>>>
>>>>> About?
>>>>
>>>> You not being able to back up your absurd claims that angels exist
>>>> and are real for a start.
>>>>
>>>> Your inability to follow a threaded discussion on Usenet is
>>>> another.
>>>>
>>>> You inability to type a long sentence without spelling at least one
>>>> word wrong, another.
>>>>
>>>> I could go on... but I'd only bore the six people reading RADW.
>>>
>>> What about your ability to accept the unacceptable.
>>>
>> And, as usual, the % tries to change topic of discussion rather
>> than addressing the accusation made against him!!
>
> iOr adding about the accustions IDlehands-mouth Dannyboy!

SORRY! What is that gobble-de-gook supposed to mean, asswipe??

Or anybody else want to have a go at an explanation??
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 11:21 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 14/7/23 12:31 am:
> In article <u8op3v$3l4al$1@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 13/7/23 12:47 am:
>>> In article <u8ljmd$37io3$2@dont-email.me>,
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> The Doctor wrote on 12/07/2023 2:14 am:
>>>>> In article <nnd$6f6b9589$2048caf6@7108d28ad9618b6a>, Blueshirt
>>>>> <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>>>>> Dave absolutely CANNOT back up his beliefs! He's like an automaton
>>>>>> that just blindly parrots what he's been told. He has no free
>>>>>> thinking whatsoever.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong! You accuse be of being like Stalin!
>>>>>
>>>> Bull, %, Blueshirt did not accuse 'be' (whomever that might
>>>> be!!) of anything, %!!
>>>
>>> BS admitted it Idlehands=mouth Dannyboy!
>>
>> Where did Blueshirt accuse that 'be' (whomever that might be!!) of
>> anything, %?? Just a Message-ID, please, %.
>
> Whenere BS mentions Stalin Idlehands-mouth Dannyboy!

Message-ID, asswipe, any Message-ID will do, asswipe!--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 11:26 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 14/7/23 12:35 am:
> In article <u8os6n$3lcvp$2@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> Blueshirt wrote on 13/7/23 6:37 am:
>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>> In article <u8lk2u$37koa$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 12/07/2023 2:06 am:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As seen in Isaiah!
>>>>>
>>>>> "Isaiah"?? Where did YOU, %, see Isaiah, %??
>>>>
>>>> Ever read the Book of Isaiah Idlehands-mouth Dannyboy.
>>>
>>> I did. There was something about holding people with a righteous
>>> right hand... which fits in well with what I know about the
>>> Church over the years. The Priests certainly took that bit as
>>> Gospel anyway!
>>>
>> Ah!! But The Book of Isaiah is not Gospel, Blueshirt, it *IS*
>> Biblical but not Gospel!!
>
> Oh?

WHAT?? Is YOUR AKJV Bible different to everyone-elses AKJV Bible, asswipe??
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 11:29 UTC

Blueshirt wrote on 14/7/23 5:48 am:
> Daniel65 wrote:
>> Blueshirt wrote on 13/7/23 6:37 am:
>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>> In article <u8lk2u$37koa$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 12/07/2023 2:06 am:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As seen in Isaiah!
>>>>>
>>>>> "Isaiah"?? Where did YOU, %, see Isaiah, %??
>>>>
>>>> Ever read the Book of Isaiah Idlehands-mouth Dannyboy.
>>>
>>> I did. There was something about holding people with a righteous
>>> right hand... which fits in well with what I know about the
>>> Church over the years. The Priests certainly took that bit as
>>> Gospel anyway!
>>>
>> Ah!! But The Book of Isaiah is not Gospel, Blueshirt, it IS
>> Biblical but not Gospel!!
>
> It didn't stop the Priests and Pastors with their right hands though,
> did it?! ;-)

Well, I can't speak for Pastors, but, as far as I know Priests don't do
that!! ;-P
--
Daniel

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Daniel65 wrote:

> The Doctor wrote on 14/7/23 10:27 am:
> > In article <nnd$5e13d227$3ef14903@73d54f9e89fee552>,
> >Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > > The Doctor wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <b2a644aa-589c-44e2-b887-426d0b4723cen@googlegroups.com>,
> >>>tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbrueni@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > But we were discussing fictional vampires with bird parts. In
> > > > > fiction, angels can have wings.
> > > >
> > > > Good points.
> > >
> > > It is a good point and as the Bible is fiction, quite relevant.
> >
> > Bogus!
> >
> Ah!! O.K., so The Bible is Bogus!! Good to know.

Works for me! ;-)

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Daniel65 wrote:

> Blueshirt wrote on 14/7/23 5:48 am:
> >
> > It didn't stop the Priests and Pastors with their right hands though,
> > did it?! ;-)
>
> Well, I can't speak for Pastors, but, as far as I know Priests don't do
> that!! ;-P

You haven't met the right Priest... :-)

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The asswipe asked:

> In article <u8qulp$3vdu2$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>
>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbrueni@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 3:21:45 AM UTC-7, solar
>>>>> penguin wrote:
>>>>>> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Tim typed:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dracula's feathers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carmilla’s cloaca!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (We are playing “Name a fictional vampire and
>>>>>>> part of a bird’s anatomy,” aren’t we?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We seem to’ve gotten distracted and neglected
>>>>>> the game. Let’s start it up again and see if we can
>>>>>> get a long cascade of vampires and bird parts.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Orlok’s beak.
>>>>>
>>>>> Edward Cullen's Talons.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Queen Camilla’s syrinx.
>>>>
>>>> (That’s the Queen Camilla from ‘State of Decay’, not
>>>> the one Daniel is thinking of!)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nosferatu’s keel.
>>>
>>
>> Spike’s parson’s nose.
>>
>
> Right down the line!
>
> Did you see Ncuti "Barbie" Gatwa lately?
>

He was in a version of ‘A Midsummer Night’s Dream’ on
the BBC last weekend. (They changed the script to add
a gay couple, which you would probably hate!)

But what does this have to do with the vampire/bird game?

--

solar penguin

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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <u8r7cc$7at$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
> >
> > However Dave was referring to Biblical angels, which whether
> > fictional or not (spoiler: they are), did NOT have wings. Wings were
> > added by later imagineers, the sort of things Dave usually refers to
> > as “Satanist Corruption” of the Bible - but strangely, when HE
> > believes nonsense that various groups have tacked on to his religion
> > (cf Hellfire, and indeed Hell, the Devil, the War in Heaven etc),
> > it’s apparently true even though it’s NOT in his Bible.
>
> What about cherubims as seen in Isaiah?

They are still fictional.

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 by: Blueshirt - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 17:24 UTC

The Doctor wrote:

> In article <u8rage$i4v$1@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> > The Doctor wrote on 14/7/23 10:27 am:
> >> In article <nnd$5e13d227$3ef14903@73d54f9e89fee552>,
> >> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > > >
> >>> It is a good point and as the Bible is fiction, quite relevant.
> >>
> >> Bogus!
> >>
> > Ah!! O.K., so The Bible is Bogus!! Good to know.
>
> The Bible as fiction is a bogus statement!

Stop Dave. You're just making yourself look silly.

Sorry, I mean sillier.

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 by: Idlehands - Sat, 15 Jul 2023 00:50 UTC

On 2023-07-14 11:24 a.m., Blueshirt wrote:
> The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <u8rage$i4v$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote on 14/7/23 10:27 am:
>>>> In article <nnd$5e13d227$3ef14903@73d54f9e89fee552>,
>>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a good point and as the Bible is fiction, quite relevant.
>>>>
>>>> Bogus!
>>>>
>>> Ah!! O.K., so The Bible is Bogus!! Good to know.
>>
>> The Bible as fiction is a bogus statement!
>
> Stop Dave. You're just making yourself look silly.
>
> Sorry, I mean sillier.

The "silly" ship sailed a long long time ago, now he just looks totally
moronic.

--
"He who establishes his argument by noise and command shows that his
reason is weak." Michel Eyquem de Montaigne

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 by: The Last Doctor - Sat, 15 Jul 2023 10:34 UTC

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <u8r7cc$7at$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbrueni@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 12:41:30 PM UTC-7, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:58:45 PM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>> In article <nnd$77414568$631478b0@e9a0a86c862b9675>,
>>>>>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We'll go again so... Angels, wings, real, show proof...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your answer ____________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is ...
>>>>>
>>>>> You are supposed to write on that line your proof that angels have
>>>>> wings!
>>>> Yes Tim, and see how he avoids answering? Typical Yads.
>>>>
>>>> So I conclude, angels are not real and so therefore do not have wings.
>>>>
>>>> The discussion, as it was, has ended.
>>>
>>> But we were discussing fictional vampires with bird parts. In fiction,
>>> angels can have wings.
>>>
>>
>> Indeed so, and frequently do.
>>
>> However Dave was referring to Biblical angels, which whether fictional or
>> not (spoiler: they are), did NOT have wings. Wings were added by later
>> imagineers, the sort of things Dave usually refers to as “Satanist
>> Corruption” of the Bible - but strangely, when HE believes nonsense that
>> various groups have tacked on to his religion (cf Hellfire, and indeed
>> Hell, the Devil, the War in Heaven etc), it’s apparently true even though
>> it’s NOT in his Bible.
>>
>
> What about cherubims as seen in Isaiah?

It’s seraphim that appear in Isaiah. The cherubim feature, as apparently
living beings and not barely-described winged statues, only in Ezekiel’s
visions.

Seraphim are described as being some bizarre form of six-winged flying
and/or poisonous serpent. And that’s all.

Cherubim are described as “creatures”, and pretty bizarre ones, having
heads with four faces (a human face, a lion face, an ox face, and an eagle
face), four wings each with a human hand underneath (but no mention of
arms), and calves’ feet. Oh, and they’re covered, literally covered, with
eyes everywhere.

They sound like chimerical abominations to me. And they’re not called
angels.

Where, in the Bible, are either cherubim or seraphim called angels? Please
quote chapter and verse.

You will now proceed, as usual, to lie, deflect, evade and distract.
Because you know they are never described as angels in the Bible.

And wings are not mentioned in connection with any angels mentioned in the
Bible.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: Daniel65 - Sat, 15 Jul 2023 12:39 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 15/7/23 1:05 am:
> In article <u8raqa$i4v$2@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 14/7/23 12:29 am:
>>> In article <u8oo6e$3kv7c$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> The Doctor wrote on 13/7/23 9:46 am:
>>>>> In article <nnd$46b54642$6cb86f56@b2603d7a4db40027>,
>>>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

<Snip>

>>>>>> I could go on... but I'd only bore the six people reading
>>>>>> RADW.
>>>>>
>>>>> What about your ability to accept the unacceptable.
>>>>>
>>>> And, as usual, the % tries to change topic of discussion
>>>> rather than addressing the accusation made against him!!
>>>
>>> Or adding about the accustions IDlehands-mouth Dannyboy!
>>
>> SORRY! What is that gobble-de-gook supposed to mean, %??
>>
>> Or anybody else want to have a go at an explanation??
>
> Do read about IDlehands-mouth Dannyboy!

Deflection noted as NO answer to my question even attempted, asswipe!!

And where should I go to read about 'IDlehands-mouth', asswipe??
Reference please!
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Sat, 15 Jul 2023 12:45 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 15/7/23 1:06 am:
> In article <u8rb3h$i4v$3@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 14/7/23 12:31 am:
>>> In article <u8op3v$3l4al$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> The Doctor wrote on 13/7/23 12:47 am:
>>>>> In article <u8ljmd$37io3$2@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 12/07/2023 2:14 am:
>>>>>>> In article <nnd$6f6b9589$2048caf6@7108d28ad9618b6a>,
>>>>>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <Snip>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dave absolutely CANNOT back up his beliefs! He's like
>>>>>>>> an automaton that just blindly parrots what he's been
>>>>>>>> told. He has no free thinking whatsoever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong! You accuse be of being like Stalin!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bull, asswipe, Blueshirt did not accuse 'be' (whomever that
>>>>>> might be!!) of anything, asswipe!!
>>>>>
>>>>> BS admitted it Idlehands=mouth Dannyboy!
>>>>
>>>> Where did Blueshirt accuse that 'be' (whomever that might be!!)
>>>> of anything, asswipe?? Just a Message-ID, please, asswipe.
>>>
>>> Whenere BS mentions Stalin Idlehands-mouth Dannyboy!
>>
>> Message-ID, asswipe, any Message-ID will do, asswipe!
>
> Should be in your headers Idlehands-mouth Dannyboy!
>
Yes, asswipe, there is a Message-ID in the header for this message,
asswipe, but I'd like YOU, asswipe, to provide the Message-ID of the
message where Blueshirt accused 'be' (whomever that might be!!) of
anything, asswipe??
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Sat, 15 Jul 2023 12:48 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 15/7/23 1:10 am:
> In article <u8rbdn$i4v$4@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 14/7/23 12:35 am:
>>> In article <u8os6n$3lcvp$2@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> Blueshirt wrote on 13/7/23 6:37 am:
>>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>> In article <u8lk2u$37koa$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>>>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 12/07/2023 2:06 am:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As seen in Isaiah!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Isaiah"?? Where did YOU, asswipe, see Isaiah, asswipe??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ever read the Book of Isaiah Idlehands-mouth Dannyboy.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did. There was something about holding people with a
>>>>> righteous right hand... which fits in well with what I know
>>>>> about the Church over the years. The Priests certainly took
>>>>> that bit as Gospel anyway!
>>>>>
>>>> Ah!! But The Book of Isaiah is not Gospel, Blueshirt, it *IS*
>>>> Biblical but not Gospel!!
>>>
>>> Oh?
>>
>> WHAT?? Is YOUR AKJV Bible different to everyone-elses AKJV Bible,
>> asswipe??
>
> Wrong question, Idlehands-mouth Dannyboy!
>
No, it isn't, asswipe, cause that's the question I want answered, asswipe!!

Is YOUR AKJV Bible different to everyone-elses AKJV Bible, asswipe??
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Sat, 15 Jul 2023 12:50 UTC

Blueshirt wrote on 14/7/23 11:41 pm:
> Daniel65 wrote:
>> Blueshirt wrote on 14/7/23 5:48 am:
>>>
>>> It didn't stop the Priests and Pastors with their right hands
>>> though, did it?! ;-)
>>
>> Well, I can't speak for Pastors, but, as far as I know Priests
>> don't do that!! ;-P
>
> You haven't met the right Priest... :-)
>
I would have thought that would be "the *WRONG* Priest", Blueshirt!!
--
Daniel

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The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <u8tsni$c7n1$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>> In article <u8r7cc$7at$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbrueni@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 12:41:30 PM UTC-7, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:58:45 PM UTC-7, The Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <nnd$77414568$631478b0@e9a0a86c862b9675>,
>>>>>>>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We'll go again so... Angels, wings, real, show proof...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your answer ____________________________________
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are supposed to write on that line your proof that angels have
>>>>>>> wings!
>>>>>> Yes Tim, and see how he avoids answering? Typical Yads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I conclude, angels are not real and so therefore do not have wings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The discussion, as it was, has ended.
>>>>>
>>>>> But we were discussing fictional vampires with bird parts. In fiction,
>>>>> angels can have wings.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Indeed so, and frequently do.
>>>>
>>>> However Dave was referring to Biblical angels, which whether fictional or
>>>> not (spoiler: they are), did NOT have wings. Wings were added by later
>>>> imagineers, the sort of things Dave usually refers to as “Satanist
>>>> Corruption” of the Bible - but strangely, when HE believes nonsense that
>>>> various groups have tacked on to his religion (cf Hellfire, and indeed
>>>> Hell, the Devil, the War in Heaven etc), it’s apparently true even though
>>>> it’s NOT in his Bible.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What about cherubims as seen in Isaiah?
>>
>> It’s seraphim that appear in Isaiah. The cherubim feature, as apparently
>> living beings and not barely-described winged statues, only in Ezekiel’s
>> visions.
>>
>> Seraphim are described as being some bizarre form of six-winged flying
>> and/or poisonous serpent. And that’s all.
>>
>> Cherubim are described as “creatures”, and pretty bizarre ones, having
>> heads with four faces (a human face, a lion face, an ox face, and an eagle
>> face), four wings each with a human hand underneath (but no mention of
>> arms), and calves’ feet. Oh, and they’re covered, literally covered, with
>> eyes everywhere.
>>
>> They sound like chimerical abominations to me. And they’re not called
>> angels.
>>
>> Where, in the Bible, are either cherubim or seraphim called angels? Please
>> quote chapter and verse.
>>
>> You will now proceed, as usual, to lie, deflect, evade and distract.
>> Because you know they are never described as angels in the Bible.
>>
>> And wings are not mentioned in connection with any angels mentioned in the
>> Bible.
>
> Thus you lie about the existence MM!

A lie and deflection on your part.

I asked you to quote chapter and verse that said angels have wings. You
haven’t.

I asked you to quote chapter and verse that say cherubim or seraphim (which
do have wings) are angels. You haven’t.

Instead of lying and deflecting, couldn’t you just admit that you’re wrong?
Honesty and truth would be such a refreshing change from you, instead of
bluster and lies.

Next you’ll be telling me that the Bible names more than one archangel.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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Daniel65 wrote:

> Blueshirt wrote on 14/7/23 11:41 pm:
> > Daniel65 wrote:
> > > Blueshirt wrote on 14/7/23 5:48 am:
> > > >
> > > > It didn't stop the Priests and Pastors with their right hands
> > > > though, did it?! ;-)
> > >
> > > Well, I can't speak for Pastors, but, as far as I know Priests
> > > don't do that!! ;-P
> >
> > You haven't met the right Priest... :-)
> >
> I would have thought that would be "the WRONG Priest", Blueshirt!!

Well, it depends on your POV doesn't it?! ;-)

For me Priests are all wrong... as in wrong 'uns!

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Daniel65 wrote:
>
> Is YOUR AKJV Bible different to everyone-elses AKJV Bible, asswipe??

Don't you just know that it is... knowing Dave, it's bound to be! <rolls
eyes>

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The Doctor wrote:

> In article <u8tsni$c7n1$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
> >The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> What about cherubims as seen in Isaiah?
> >
> > It’s seraphim that appear in Isaiah. The cherubim feature, as
> > apparently living beings and not barely-described winged statues,
> > only in Ezekiel’s visions.
> >
> > Seraphim are described as being some bizarre form of six-winged flying
> > and/or poisonous serpent. And that’s all.
> >
> > Cherubim are described as “creatures”, and pretty bizarre ones, having
> > heads with four faces (a human face, a lion face, an ox face, and an
> > eagle face), four wings each with a human hand underneath (but no
> > mention of arms), and calves’ feet. Oh, and they’re covered,
> > literally covered, with eyes everywhere.
> >
> > They sound like chimerical abominations to me. And they’re not called
> > angels.
> >
> > Where, in the Bible, are either cherubim or seraphim called angels?
> > Please quote chapter and verse.
> >
> > You will now proceed, as usual, to lie, deflect, evade and distract.
> > Because you know they are never described as angels in the Bible.
> >
> > And wings are not mentioned in connection with any angels mentioned
> > in the Bible.
>
> Thus you lie about the existence MM!

Dave, you're not really gonna try and convince people that Angels are
real and anyone who says otherwise is telling lies, are you? That is a
most absurd proposition that puts you at the extremities of normal.

Tell the truth, you are in psych ward - that has internet - aren't you?
There can be no other answer and it would explain a lot.


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