Mack A. Damia wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:45:21 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
> <ashwurthing@gmail.com> wrote:

>>On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
>>> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:13:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>>> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>Got it.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
>>> >> >> > dining room table."
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
>>> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >And so it goes...
>>> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
>>> >> group.
>>> >>
>>> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
>>> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
>>
>>Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...

> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
> child.

Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>
> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:13:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Got it.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
> >> >> > dining room table."
> >> >>
> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
> >> >
> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
> >> >
> >> >And so it goes...
> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
> >> group.
> >>
> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
>
> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?

As we know, Ash just makes it up as he goes along...!

Zod wrote:

> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
>> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>>
>> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:13:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Got it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
>> >> >> > dining room table."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
>> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
>> >> >
>> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
>> >> >
>> >> >And so it goes...
>> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
>> >> group.
>> >>
>> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
>> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
>>
>> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?

> As we know, Ash just makes it up as he goes along...!

One thing you can say about Ash, he's consistent.

🙂

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 9:51:51 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 9:16:38 AM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > We see two possibilities.
> >
> > 1. You (David R. Procter) committed marriage fraud and are subject to "prison sentence of up to five years and a fine of up to $250,000, and applies to both foreign nationals and U.S. citizens who perpetrate this crime."
> > https://www.ice.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Document/2016/marriageFraudBrochure.pdf
> >
> > Or--
> > 2. You are a liar, and most/all of what you post is not true.
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove/c/f8JeMWYZ38Y
> >
> > The thread below is full of Mack A. Damia contradictions (lies):
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove/c/b7RhPwhiZt4/m/GUYA_8ZGBQAJ
> >
> > "Wherever he goes, there he is."
> Got him!
>
> I think he and the late, unlamented Pickles were identical twins who were separated at birth.
>
> Apparently everyone who disagrees with/dislikes him (i.e., everyone) suffers from paranoid personality disorder.
>
> What a screwball!

a sociopathic, psychotic stalking screwball, apparently.

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:09:05 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 06:16:37 -0800 (PST), NancyGene
> <nancygene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >We see two possibilities.
> >
> >1. You (David R. Procter) committed marriage fraud and are subject to "prison sentence of up to five years and a fine of up to $250,000, and applies to both foreign nationals and U.S. citizens who perpetrate this crime."
> >https://www.ice.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Document/2016/marriageFraudBrochure.pdf
> >
> >Or--
> >2. You are a liar, and most/all of what you post is not true.
> >
> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove/c/f8JeMWYZ38Y
> >
> >The thread below is full of Mack A. Damia contradictions (lies):
> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.2eggs.sausage.beans.tomatoes.2toast.largetea.cheerslove/c/b7RhPwhiZt4/m/GUYA_8ZGBQAJ
> >
> >"Wherever he goes, there he is."
> Why would any sane person totally reveal him/herself as you do on
> Usenet?
>
> Believe me when I tell you that you have serious mental problems. I
> think it is a severe personality disorder. You are probably aware of
> this, but you are in denial and think that it is everybody else's
> fault.
>
> Do you know why you swear on a bible in court to "Tell the truth, the
> whole truth, and nothing but the truth"?
>
> This is not a court of law. I may tell the truth, but I do not tell
> the whole truth.

Do you "set the record straight" like a certain narcissistic jackass?

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:53:20 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:45:21 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:13:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>Got it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
> >> >> >> > dining room table."
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
> >> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >And so it goes...
> >> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
> >> >> group.
> >> >>
> >> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
> >> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
> >
> >Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...
> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
> child.

Ha ha... if only... if only...

Mack A. Damia wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:45:21 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
> <ashwurthing@gmail.com> wrote:

>>On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
>>> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:13:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>>> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:10:12 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
>>> >> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:43:52 +0000, W-Dockery @news.novabbs.com
>>> >> >> > (W-Dockery ) wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>Got it.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
>>> >> >> > dining room table."
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
>>> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >And so it goes...
>>> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
>>> >> group.
>>> >>
>>> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
>>> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
>>
>>Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...

> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
> child.

You nailed it, Mack.

🙂

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:10:12 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:43:52 +0000, W-Dockery @news.novabbs.com
> > (W-Dockery ) wrote:
>
> >>Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
> >>
> >>
> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
> >>
> >>Got it.
>
> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
> > dining room table."
>
> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
> Barney Frank nailed it.
>
> 🙂

Indeed, nailed it like like he nailed 8 year olds. My kind of guy.

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 11:17:34 PM UTC-5, fake jdcha...@gmail.com forgery:
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:10:12 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> > Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:43:52 +0000, W-Dockery @news.novabbs.com
> > > (W-Dockery ) wrote:
> >
> > >>Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
> > >>
> > >>Got it.
> >
> > > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
> > > dining room table."
> >
> > > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
> > Barney Frank nailed it.
> >
> > 🙂
> Indeed, nailed it like like he nailed 8 year olds. My kind of guy.

Obvious forgery ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:53:20 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:45:21 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
> >> Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:13:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:10:12 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:43:52 +0000, W-Dockery @news.novabbs.com
> >> >> >> > (W-Dockery ) wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>Got it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
> >> >> >> > dining room table."
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
> >> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >And so it goes...
> >> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
> >> >> group.
> >> >>
> >> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
> >> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
> >
> >Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...
> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
> child.

I am. I'm not here like Will and Zod, spending so much of their time fighting most every one here. Those two post more than twice as much as everyone else combined. And these posts of theirs that you see here ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") are mostly what they post. They don't discuss poetry any deeper than a nod and they always bump the same old poems of theirs in desperate attempts to catch anyone's attention.

"Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha."
So Mr. Damia, why aren't you chiding Zod? Is Will and Zod allowed to do as you say not to? Is he implying that I'm mentally deficient? Or that it's because I'm fully disabled? He does like to use the pinhead freak show/birth defect insult, so I'm sure he's mocking me as something subhuman...

I've only been away a day, and sWilly and Sod are already missing me? I, for one, do realize the vicious cycle that I help to keep in motion while my foes remain ignorant and do as the puppet strings jerk them. Did anyone think I was trying to get them to change their ways? NAY! I do the Devil's work and can only help them down their precieved well intention slippery slope-- not help them out of the pitfall of their chosen way.

So Mr. Damia,
They will blow off your suggestions to focus less on fighting, they did it to someone else that tried to defend them *(see below), because they're so embroiled it that they now cannot get themselves out of it. They won't take responsibility for it, but will try to excuse what they do by placing all the blame upon those that they label as their foes. All it takes, as I proved when I came here with possible new members, is to question, or criticize their selfish ways here and I'm just belittled as another "Usenet troll." Funny that, because I do exactly what they do...

I tried to bring younger people here. It just wasn't the fighting that kept them away. They didn't want to have to constantly play the bumping game (which Dance acknowledged when taunting us) against Will and Zod's inconsiderate obsession with trying to always be the center of attention-- and the only ones seen in the first page of threads on Google's AAPC Group page. They can make a new post by someone disappear within a half hour. My people prefer moderated places and social media where they don't have to worry about "selfish" people pushing them aside so to hog up all the attention...

*One of the few neutrals of this place had this to say about Will and Zod being just as much of a problem:
(Will being part of the problem)
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
(Will annoying them with what he was doing)
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/oC9y6haxMQM/m/L25h6RJxAQAJ
(Will never listened to this so called "friend" of his when they told him I didn't have to show my work. I
never brought up the subject since then-- it was always Will and Zod who did, despite what their "friend" said. I have high regard for that person- they're perhaps too idealistic but still a decent person- they supported me when Will and Sod bullied and mocked me about my work. Will and Zod loved to use this person's words for their benefit except when it damned them as well. And Will blew her off for questioning him, using her for her words that only benefited him. When this person challenged me, I took responsibility and didn't try to blame someone else for what I did. I even publicly apologized to them once for catching them in one of my criticisms. Hell, I even cut down on my posts after they confronted me about the fighting. I don't post nearly as much now as I used to when I first got into it with Will.

Now that I finished posting updates for new projects-- I now sleep-- been up all night partyin' online-- all the new opportunities-- that don't involve this hell hole-- perhaps you should be askin' sWilly about gettin' on with Life and not acting like a child. Zod too! ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") They spend much more time and post spamming effort here so to fight and bury.

On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 07:59:27 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
<ashwurthing@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:53:20 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:45:21 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
>> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
>> >> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:13:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>> >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:10:12 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:43:52 +0000, W-Dockery @news.novabbs.com
>> >> >> >> > (W-Dockery ) wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>Got it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
>> >> >> >> > dining room table."
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
>> >> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >And so it goes...
>> >> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
>> >> >> group.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
>> >> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
>> >>
>> >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
>> >
>> >Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...
>> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
>> child.
>
>I am. I'm not here like Will and Zod, spending so much of their time fighting most every one here. Those two post more than twice as much as everyone else combined. And these posts of theirs that you see here ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") are mostly what they post. They don't discuss poetry any deeper than a nod and they always bump the same old poems of theirs in desperate attempts to catch anyone's attention.
>
>"Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha."
>So Mr. Damia, why aren't you chiding Zod? Is Will and Zod allowed to do as you say not to? Is he implying that I'm mentally deficient? Or that it's because I'm fully disabled? He does like to use the pinhead freak show/birth defect insult, so I'm sure he's mocking me as something subhuman...
>
>I've only been away a day, and sWilly and Sod are already missing me? I, for one, do realize the vicious cycle that I help to keep in motion while my foes remain ignorant and do as the puppet strings jerk them. Did anyone think I was trying to get them to change their ways? NAY! I do the Devil's work and can only help them down their precieved well intention slippery slope-- not help them out of the pitfall of their chosen way.
>
>So Mr. Damia,
>They will blow off your suggestions to focus less on fighting, they did it to someone else that tried to defend them *(see below), because they're so embroiled it that they now cannot get themselves out of it. They won't take responsibility for it, but will try to excuse what they do by placing all the blame upon those that they label as their foes. All it takes, as I proved when I came here with possible new members, is to question, or criticize their selfish ways here and I'm just belittled as another "Usenet troll." Funny that, because I do exactly what they do...
>
>I tried to bring younger people here. It just wasn't the fighting that kept them away. They didn't want to have to constantly play the bumping game (which Dance acknowledged when taunting us) against Will and Zod's inconsiderate obsession with trying to always be the center of attention-- and the only ones seen in the first page of threads on Google's AAPC Group page. They can make a new post by someone disappear within a half hour. My people prefer moderated places and social media where they don't have to worry about "selfish" people pushing them aside so to hog up all the attention...
>
>*One of the few neutrals of this place had this to say about Will and Zod being just as much of a problem:
>(Will being part of the problem)
>https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
>(Will annoying them with what he was doing)
>https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/oC9y6haxMQM/m/L25h6RJxAQAJ
>(Will never listened to this so called "friend" of his when they told him I didn't have to show my work. I
>never brought up the subject since then-- it was always Will and Zod who did, despite what their "friend" said. I have high regard for that person- they're perhaps too idealistic but still a decent person- they supported me when Will and Sod bullied and mocked me about my work. Will and Zod loved to use this person's words for their benefit except when it damned them as well. And Will blew her off for questioning him, using her for her words that only benefited him. When this person challenged me, I took responsibility and didn't try to blame someone else for what I did. I even publicly apologized to them once for catching them in one of my criticisms. Hell, I even cut down on my posts after they confronted me about the fighting. I don't post nearly as much now as I used to when I first got into it with Will.
>
>Now that I finished posting updates for new projects-- I now sleep-- been up all night partyin' online-- all the new opportunities-- that don't involve this hell hole-- perhaps you should be askin' sWilly about gettin' on with Life and not acting like a child. Zod too! ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") They spend much more time and post spamming effort here so to fight and bury.

Fighting for the soul of the group, but the soul of the group is the
fight.

General-Zod wrote:

> Mack A. Damia wrote:

>> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:45:21 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
>> <ashwurthing@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
>>>> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:13:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>>>> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>Got it.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
>>>> >> >> > dining room table."
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
>>>> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >And so it goes...
>>>> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
>>>> >> group.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
>>>> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
>>>
>>>Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...

>> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
>> child.

> Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.

Now, Zod... be nice.

🙂

On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 11:34:32 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 07:59:27 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:53:20 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:45:21 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
> >> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:13:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >> >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:10:12 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:43:52 +0000, W-Dockery @news.novabbs..com
> >> >> >> >> > (W-Dockery ) wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>Got it.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
> >> >> >> >> > dining room table."
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
> >> >> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >And so it goes...
> >> >> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
> >> >> >> group.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
> >> >> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
> >> >>
> >> >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
> >> >
> >> >Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...
> >> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
> >> child.
> >
> >I am. I'm not here like Will and Zod, spending so much of their time fighting most every one here. Those two post more than twice as much as everyone else combined. And these posts of theirs that you see here ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") are mostly what they post. They don't discuss poetry any deeper than a nod and they always bump the same old poems of theirs in desperate attempts to catch anyone's attention.
> >
> >"Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha."
> >So Mr. Damia, why aren't you chiding Zod? Is Will and Zod allowed to do as you say not to? Is he implying that I'm mentally deficient? Or that it's because I'm fully disabled? He does like to use the pinhead freak show/birth defect insult, so I'm sure he's mocking me as something subhuman...
> >
> >I've only been away a day, and sWilly and Sod are already missing me? I, for one, do realize the vicious cycle that I help to keep in motion while my foes remain ignorant and do as the puppet strings jerk them. Did anyone think I was trying to get them to change their ways? NAY! I do the Devil's work and can only help them down their precieved well intention slippery slope-- not help them out of the pitfall of their chosen way.
> >
> >So Mr. Damia,
> >They will blow off your suggestions to focus less on fighting, they did it to someone else that tried to defend them *(see below), because they're so embroiled it that they now cannot get themselves out of it. They won't take responsibility for it, but will try to excuse what they do by placing all the blame upon those that they label as their foes. All it takes, as I proved when I came here with possible new members, is to question, or criticize their selfish ways here and I'm just belittled as another "Usenet troll.." Funny that, because I do exactly what they do...
> >
> >I tried to bring younger people here. It just wasn't the fighting that kept them away. They didn't want to have to constantly play the bumping game (which Dance acknowledged when taunting us) against Will and Zod's inconsiderate obsession with trying to always be the center of attention-- and the only ones seen in the first page of threads on Google's AAPC Group page. They can make a new post by someone disappear within a half hour. My people prefer moderated places and social media where they don't have to worry about "selfish" people pushing them aside so to hog up all the attention...
> >
> >*One of the few neutrals of this place had this to say about Will and Zod being just as much of a problem:
> >(Will being part of the problem)
> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
> >(Will annoying them with what he was doing)
> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/oC9y6haxMQM/m/L25h6RJxAQAJ
> >(Will never listened to this so called "friend" of his when they told him I didn't have to show my work. I
> >never brought up the subject since then-- it was always Will and Zod who did, despite what their "friend" said. I have high regard for that person- they're perhaps too idealistic but still a decent person- they supported me when Will and Sod bullied and mocked me about my work. Will and Zod loved to use this person's words for their benefit except when it damned them as well. And Will blew her off for questioning him, using her for her words that only benefited him. When this person challenged me, I took responsibility and didn't try to blame someone else for what I did. I even publicly apologized to them once for catching them in one of my criticisms. Hell, I even cut down on my posts after they confronted me about the fighting. I don't post nearly as much now as I used to when I first got into it with Will.
> >
> >Now that I finished posting updates for new projects-- I now sleep-- been up all night partyin' online-- all the new opportunities-- that don't involve this hell hole-- perhaps you should be askin' sWilly about gettin' on with Life and not acting like a child. Zod too! ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") They spend much more time and post spamming effort here so to fight and bury.
> Fighting for the soul of the group, but the soul of the group is the
> fight.

You're wrong, Jake.

The soul of the group is poetry. The trolls have just gotten the upper hand.

Driving others away from a Usenet group doesn't make you a "big man," Jake. You're still the frail little man with peeking out from a Covid-19 mask/bandana with frightened (and somewhat lopsided) eyes.

Being a troll is hardly an accomplishment. Trolls are usually impotent little men who've failed to measure up to their idealized self-image in life, and who compensate by swaggering and bullying their way through a newsgroup where no one can do anything to stop them. Such power!

It takes a bigger man to stand up against the trolls and to contribute to the betterment of the group in the face of an untouchable opposition.

"Sometimes lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for." -- Jefferson Smith.

Michael Pendragon wrote:
> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> > Michael Pendragon <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.

Like I said:

>> >> >> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>> >> >> >> >> >>Got it.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
>> >> >> >> >> > dining room table."
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
>> >> >> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >And so it goes...
>> >> >> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
>> >> >> >> group.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
>> >> >> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
>> >> >
>> >> >Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...
>> >> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
>> >> child.
>> >
>> >I am. I'm not here like Will and Zod, spending so much of their time fighting most every one here. Those two post more than twice as much as everyone else combined. And these posts of theirs that you see here ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") are mostly what they post. They don't discuss poetry any deeper than a nod and they always bump the same old poems of theirs in desperate attempts to catch anyone's attention.
>> >
>> >"Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha."
>> >So Mr. Damia, why aren't you chiding Zod? Is Will and Zod allowed to do as you say not to? Is he implying that I'm mentally deficient? Or that it's because I'm fully disabled? He does like to use the pinhead freak show/birth defect insult, so I'm sure he's mocking me as something subhuman...
>> >
>> >I've only been away a day, and sWilly and Sod are already missing me? I, for one, do realize the vicious cycle that I help to keep in motion while my foes remain ignorant and do as the puppet strings jerk them. Did anyone think I was trying to get them to change their ways? NAY! I do the Devil's work and can only help them down their precieved well intention slippery slope-- not help them out of the pitfall of their chosen way.
>> >
>> >So Mr. Damia,
>
>> >Now that I finished posting updates for new projects-- I now sleep-- been up all night partyin' online-- all the new opportunities-- that don't involve this hell hole-- perhaps you should be askin' sWilly about gettin' on with Life and not acting like a child. Zod too! ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") They spend much more time and post spamming effort here so to fight and bury.
>
>> Fighting for the soul of the group, but the soul of the group is the
>> fight.

> You're wrong, Jake.

> The soul of the group is poetry. The trolls have just gotten the upper hand

No, we're keeping you and your malicious ilk mostly under control, Pendragon.

HTH and HAND.

On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:15:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> > Michael Pendragon <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
> Like I said:
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Got it.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
> >> >> >> >> >> > dining room table."
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
> >> >> >> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >And so it goes...
> >> >> >> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
> >> >> >> >> group.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
> >> >> >> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...
> >> >> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
> >> >> child.
> >> >
> >> >I am. I'm not here like Will and Zod, spending so much of their time fighting most every one here. Those two post more than twice as much as everyone else combined. And these posts of theirs that you see here ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") are mostly what they post. They don't discuss poetry any deeper than a nod and they always bump the same old poems of theirs in desperate attempts to catch anyone's attention..
> >> >
> >> >"Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha."
> >> >So Mr. Damia, why aren't you chiding Zod? Is Will and Zod allowed to do as you say not to? Is he implying that I'm mentally deficient? Or that it's because I'm fully disabled? He does like to use the pinhead freak show/birth defect insult, so I'm sure he's mocking me as something subhuman...
> >> >
> >> >I've only been away a day, and sWilly and Sod are already missing me? I, for one, do realize the vicious cycle that I help to keep in motion while my foes remain ignorant and do as the puppet strings jerk them. Did anyone think I was trying to get them to change their ways? NAY! I do the Devil's work and can only help them down their precieved well intention slippery slope-- not help them out of the pitfall of their chosen way.
> >> >
> >> >So Mr. Damia,
> >
> >> >Now that I finished posting updates for new projects-- I now sleep-- been up all night partyin' online-- all the new opportunities-- that don't involve this hell hole-- perhaps you should be askin' sWilly about gettin' on with Life and not acting like a child. Zod too! ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") They spend much more time and post spamming effort here so to fight and bury.
> >
> >> Fighting for the soul of the group, but the soul of the group is the
> >> fight.
>
> > You're wrong, Jake.
>
> > The soul of the group is poetry. The trolls have just gotten the upper hand
> No, we're keeping you and your malicious ilk mostly under control, Pendragon.

IKYABWAI expected.

On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:15:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> > Michael Pendragon <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
> Like I said:
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Got it.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
> >> >> >> >> >> > dining room table."
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
> >> >> >> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >And so it goes...
> >> >> >> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
> >> >> >> >> group.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
> >> >> >> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...
> >> >> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
> >> >> child.
> >> >
> >> >I am. I'm not here like Will and Zod, spending so much of their time fighting most every one here. Those two post more than twice as much as everyone else combined. And these posts of theirs that you see here ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") are mostly what they post. They don't discuss poetry any deeper than a nod and they always bump the same old poems of theirs in desperate attempts to catch anyone's attention..
> >> >
> >> >"Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha."
> >> >So Mr. Damia, why aren't you chiding Zod? Is Will and Zod allowed to do as you say not to? Is he implying that I'm mentally deficient? Or that it's because I'm fully disabled? He does like to use the pinhead freak show/birth defect insult, so I'm sure he's mocking me as something subhuman...
> >> >
> >> >I've only been away a day, and sWilly and Sod are already missing me? I, for one, do realize the vicious cycle that I help to keep in motion while my foes remain ignorant and do as the puppet strings jerk them. Did anyone think I was trying to get them to change their ways? NAY! I do the Devil's work and can only help them down their precieved well intention slippery slope-- not help them out of the pitfall of their chosen way.
> >> >
> >> >So Mr. Damia,
> >
> >> >Now that I finished posting updates for new projects-- I now sleep-- been up all night partyin' online-- all the new opportunities-- that don't involve this hell hole-- perhaps you should be askin' sWilly about gettin' on with Life and not acting like a child. Zod too! ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") They spend much more time and post spamming effort here so to fight and bury.
> >
> >> Fighting for the soul of the group, but the soul of the group is the
> >> fight.
>
> > You're wrong, Jake.
>
> > The soul of the group is poetry. The trolls have just gotten the upper hand
> No, we're keeping you and your malicious ilk mostly under control, Pendragon.
>
> HTH and HAND.

Yep, giant steps...!

On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 12:25:43 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
<michaelmaleficapendragon@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 11:34:32 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 07:59:27 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
>> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:53:20 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:45:21 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
>> >> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:13:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>> >> >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:10:12 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:43:52 +0000, W-Dockery @news.novabbs.com
>> >> >> >> >> > (W-Dockery ) wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>Got it.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
>> >> >> >> >> > dining room table."
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
>> >> >> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >And so it goes...
>> >> >> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
>> >> >> >> group.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
>> >> >> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
>> >> >
>> >> >Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...
>> >> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
>> >> child.
>> >
>> >I am. I'm not here like Will and Zod, spending so much of their time fighting most every one here. Those two post more than twice as much as everyone else combined. And these posts of theirs that you see here ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") are mostly what they post. They don't discuss poetry any deeper than a nod and they always bump the same old poems of theirs in desperate attempts to catch anyone's attention.
>> >
>> >"Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha."
>> >So Mr. Damia, why aren't you chiding Zod? Is Will and Zod allowed to do as you say not to? Is he implying that I'm mentally deficient? Or that it's because I'm fully disabled? He does like to use the pinhead freak show/birth defect insult, so I'm sure he's mocking me as something subhuman...
>> >
>> >I've only been away a day, and sWilly and Sod are already missing me? I, for one, do realize the vicious cycle that I help to keep in motion while my foes remain ignorant and do as the puppet strings jerk them. Did anyone think I was trying to get them to change their ways? NAY! I do the Devil's work and can only help them down their precieved well intention slippery slope-- not help them out of the pitfall of their chosen way.
>> >
>> >So Mr. Damia,
>> >They will blow off your suggestions to focus less on fighting, they did it to someone else that tried to defend them *(see below), because they're so embroiled it that they now cannot get themselves out of it. They won't take responsibility for it, but will try to excuse what they do by placing all the blame upon those that they label as their foes. All it takes, as I proved when I came here with possible new members, is to question, or criticize their selfish ways here and I'm just belittled as another "Usenet troll." Funny that, because I do exactly what they do...
>> >
>> >I tried to bring younger people here. It just wasn't the fighting that kept them away. They didn't want to have to constantly play the bumping game (which Dance acknowledged when taunting us) against Will and Zod's inconsiderate obsession with trying to always be the center of attention-- and the only ones seen in the first page of threads on Google's AAPC Group page. They can make a new post by someone disappear within a half hour. My people prefer moderated places and social media where they don't have to worry about "selfish" people pushing them aside so to hog up all the attention...
>> >
>> >*One of the few neutrals of this place had this to say about Will and Zod being just as much of a problem:
>> >(Will being part of the problem)
>> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
>> >(Will annoying them with what he was doing)
>> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/oC9y6haxMQM/m/L25h6RJxAQAJ
>> >(Will never listened to this so called "friend" of his when they told him I didn't have to show my work. I
>> >never brought up the subject since then-- it was always Will and Zod who did, despite what their "friend" said. I have high regard for that person- they're perhaps too idealistic but still a decent person- they supported me when Will and Sod bullied and mocked me about my work. Will and Zod loved to use this person's words for their benefit except when it damned them as well. And Will blew her off for questioning him, using her for her words that only benefited him. When this person challenged me, I took responsibility and didn't try to blame someone else for what I did. I even publicly apologized to them once for catching them in one of my criticisms. Hell, I even cut down on my posts after they confronted me about the fighting. I don't post nearly as much now as I used to when I first got into it with Will.
>> >
>> >Now that I finished posting updates for new projects-- I now sleep-- been up all night partyin' online-- all the new opportunities-- that don't involve this hell hole-- perhaps you should be askin' sWilly about gettin' on with Life and not acting like a child. Zod too! ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") They spend much more time and post spamming effort here so to fight and bury.
>> Fighting for the soul of the group, but the soul of the group is the
>> fight.
>
>You're wrong, Jake.
>
>The soul of the group is poetry. The trolls have just gotten the upper hand.
>
>Driving others away from a Usenet group doesn't make you a "big man," Jake. You're still the frail little man with peeking out from a Covid-19 mask/bandana with frightened (and somewhat lopsided) eyes.
>
>Being a troll is hardly an accomplishment. Trolls are usually impotent little men who've failed to measure up to their idealized self-image in life, and who compensate by swaggering and bullying their way through a newsgroup where no one can do anything to stop them. Such power!
>
>It takes a bigger man to stand up against the trolls and to contribute to the betterment of the group in the face of an untouchable opposition.
>
>"Sometimes lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for." -- Jefferson Smith.

On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:45:34 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 12:25:43 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 11:34:32 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 07:59:27 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
> >> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:53:20 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:45:21 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
> >> >> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:13:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >> >> >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:10:12 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:43:52 +0000, W-Dockery @news.novabbs.com
> >> >> >> >> >> > (W-Dockery ) wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Got it.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
> >> >> >> >> >> > dining room table."
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
> >> >> >> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >And so it goes...
> >> >> >> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
> >> >> >> >> group.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
> >> >> >> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...
> >> >> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
> >> >> child.
> >> >
> >> >I am. I'm not here like Will and Zod, spending so much of their time fighting most every one here. Those two post more than twice as much as everyone else combined. And these posts of theirs that you see here ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") are mostly what they post. They don't discuss poetry any deeper than a nod and they always bump the same old poems of theirs in desperate attempts to catch anyone's attention..
> >> >
> >> >"Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha."
> >> >So Mr. Damia, why aren't you chiding Zod? Is Will and Zod allowed to do as you say not to? Is he implying that I'm mentally deficient? Or that it's because I'm fully disabled? He does like to use the pinhead freak show/birth defect insult, so I'm sure he's mocking me as something subhuman...
> >> >
> >> >I've only been away a day, and sWilly and Sod are already missing me? I, for one, do realize the vicious cycle that I help to keep in motion while my foes remain ignorant and do as the puppet strings jerk them. Did anyone think I was trying to get them to change their ways? NAY! I do the Devil's work and can only help them down their precieved well intention slippery slope-- not help them out of the pitfall of their chosen way.
> >> >
> >> >So Mr. Damia,
> >> >They will blow off your suggestions to focus less on fighting, they did it to someone else that tried to defend them *(see below), because they're so embroiled it that they now cannot get themselves out of it. They won't take responsibility for it, but will try to excuse what they do by placing all the blame upon those that they label as their foes. All it takes, as I proved when I came here with possible new members, is to question, or criticize their selfish ways here and I'm just belittled as another "Usenet troll." Funny that, because I do exactly what they do...
> >> >
> >> >I tried to bring younger people here. It just wasn't the fighting that kept them away. They didn't want to have to constantly play the bumping game (which Dance acknowledged when taunting us) against Will and Zod's inconsiderate obsession with trying to always be the center of attention-- and the only ones seen in the first page of threads on Google's AAPC Group page.. They can make a new post by someone disappear within a half hour. My people prefer moderated places and social media where they don't have to worry about "selfish" people pushing them aside so to hog up all the attention...
> >> >
> >> >*One of the few neutrals of this place had this to say about Will and Zod being just as much of a problem:
> >> >(Will being part of the problem)
> >> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
> >> >(Will annoying them with what he was doing)
> >> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/oC9y6haxMQM/m/L25h6RJxAQAJ
> >> >(Will never listened to this so called "friend" of his when they told him I didn't have to show my work. I
> >> >never brought up the subject since then-- it was always Will and Zod who did, despite what their "friend" said. I have high regard for that person- they're perhaps too idealistic but still a decent person- they supported me when Will and Sod bullied and mocked me about my work. Will and Zod loved to use this person's words for their benefit except when it damned them as well. And Will blew her off for questioning him, using her for her words that only benefited him. When this person challenged me, I took responsibility and didn't try to blame someone else for what I did. I even publicly apologized to them once for catching them in one of my criticisms. Hell, I even cut down on my posts after they confronted me about the fighting. I don't post nearly as much now as I used to when I first got into it with Will..
> >> >
> >> >Now that I finished posting updates for new projects-- I now sleep-- been up all night partyin' online-- all the new opportunities-- that don't involve this hell hole-- perhaps you should be askin' sWilly about gettin' on with Life and not acting like a child. Zod too! ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") They spend much more time and post spamming effort here so to fight and bury.
> >> Fighting for the soul of the group, but the soul of the group is the
> >> fight.
> >
> >You're wrong, Jake.
> >
> >The soul of the group is poetry. The trolls have just gotten the upper hand.
> >
> >Driving others away from a Usenet group doesn't make you a "big man," Jake. You're still the frail little man with peeking out from a Covid-19 mask/bandana with frightened (and somewhat lopsided) eyes.
> >
> >Being a troll is hardly an accomplishment. Trolls are usually impotent little men who've failed to measure up to their idealized self-image in life, and who compensate by swaggering and bullying their way through a newsgroup where no one can do anything to stop them. Such power!
> >
> >It takes a bigger man to stand up against the trolls and to contribute to the betterment of the group in the face of an untouchable opposition.
> >
> >"Sometimes lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for." -- Jefferson Smith.
> Big words from such a little man, Spike. I am retired. I made my
> mark decades ago. I relax now in my home on the beach next to the
> Pacific and take occasionaly rides in my Jaguar.
>
> https://i.ibb.co/QrdF5QL/View.jpg
>
> If you were as successful as you claim to be in your self-designed web
> sites, you wouldn't be hanging around a so-called poetry group making
> trouble for others and trying to be the Grand Pooh Bah.
>
> As a matter of fact, you ARE the Grand Pooh Bah, Angelo Scarlotti. You
> are "The GLOBFATHER of the group".

On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:45:34 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 12:25:43 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 11:34:32 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 07:59:27 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
> >> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:53:20 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:45:21 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
> >> >> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:13:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> >> >> >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:10:12 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:43:52 +0000, W-Dockery @news.novabbs.com
> >> >> >> >> >> > (W-Dockery ) wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Got it.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
> >> >> >> >> >> > dining room table."
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
> >> >> >> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >And so it goes...
> >> >> >> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
> >> >> >> >> group.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
> >> >> >> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...
> >> >> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
> >> >> child.
> >> >
> >> >I am. I'm not here like Will and Zod, spending so much of their time fighting most every one here. Those two post more than twice as much as everyone else combined. And these posts of theirs that you see here ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") are mostly what they post. They don't discuss poetry any deeper than a nod and they always bump the same old poems of theirs in desperate attempts to catch anyone's attention..
> >> >
> >> >"Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha."
> >> >So Mr. Damia, why aren't you chiding Zod? Is Will and Zod allowed to do as you say not to? Is he implying that I'm mentally deficient? Or that it's because I'm fully disabled? He does like to use the pinhead freak show/birth defect insult, so I'm sure he's mocking me as something subhuman...
> >> >
> >> >I've only been away a day, and sWilly and Sod are already missing me? I, for one, do realize the vicious cycle that I help to keep in motion while my foes remain ignorant and do as the puppet strings jerk them. Did anyone think I was trying to get them to change their ways? NAY! I do the Devil's work and can only help them down their precieved well intention slippery slope-- not help them out of the pitfall of their chosen way.
> >> >
> >> >So Mr. Damia,
> >> >They will blow off your suggestions to focus less on fighting, they did it to someone else that tried to defend them *(see below), because they're so embroiled it that they now cannot get themselves out of it. They won't take responsibility for it, but will try to excuse what they do by placing all the blame upon those that they label as their foes. All it takes, as I proved when I came here with possible new members, is to question, or criticize their selfish ways here and I'm just belittled as another "Usenet troll." Funny that, because I do exactly what they do...
> >> >
> >> >I tried to bring younger people here. It just wasn't the fighting that kept them away. They didn't want to have to constantly play the bumping game (which Dance acknowledged when taunting us) against Will and Zod's inconsiderate obsession with trying to always be the center of attention-- and the only ones seen in the first page of threads on Google's AAPC Group page.. They can make a new post by someone disappear within a half hour. My people prefer moderated places and social media where they don't have to worry about "selfish" people pushing them aside so to hog up all the attention...
> >> >
> >> >*One of the few neutrals of this place had this to say about Will and Zod being just as much of a problem:
> >> >(Will being part of the problem)
> >> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
> >> >(Will annoying them with what he was doing)
> >> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/oC9y6haxMQM/m/L25h6RJxAQAJ
> >> >(Will never listened to this so called "friend" of his when they told him I didn't have to show my work. I
> >> >never brought up the subject since then-- it was always Will and Zod who did, despite what their "friend" said. I have high regard for that person- they're perhaps too idealistic but still a decent person- they supported me when Will and Sod bullied and mocked me about my work. Will and Zod loved to use this person's words for their benefit except when it damned them as well. And Will blew her off for questioning him, using her for her words that only benefited him. When this person challenged me, I took responsibility and didn't try to blame someone else for what I did. I even publicly apologized to them once for catching them in one of my criticisms. Hell, I even cut down on my posts after they confronted me about the fighting. I don't post nearly as much now as I used to when I first got into it with Will..
> >> >
> >> >Now that I finished posting updates for new projects-- I now sleep-- been up all night partyin' online-- all the new opportunities-- that don't involve this hell hole-- perhaps you should be askin' sWilly about gettin' on with Life and not acting like a child. Zod too! ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") They spend much more time and post spamming effort here so to fight and bury.
> >> Fighting for the soul of the group, but the soul of the group is the
> >> fight.
> >
> >You're wrong, Jake.
> >
> >The soul of the group is poetry. The trolls have just gotten the upper hand.
> >
> >Driving others away from a Usenet group doesn't make you a "big man," Jake. You're still the frail little man with peeking out from a Covid-19 mask/bandana with frightened (and somewhat lopsided) eyes.
> >
> >Being a troll is hardly an accomplishment. Trolls are usually impotent little men who've failed to measure up to their idealized self-image in life, and who compensate by swaggering and bullying their way through a newsgroup where no one can do anything to stop them. Such power!
> >
> >It takes a bigger man to stand up against the trolls and to contribute to the betterment of the group in the face of an untouchable opposition.
> >
> >"Sometimes lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for." -- Jefferson Smith.
> Big words from such a little man, Spike. I am retired. I made my
> mark decades ago. I relax now in my home on the beach next to the
> Pacific and take occasionaly rides in my Jaguar.
>
> https://i.ibb.co/QrdF5QL/View.jpg

On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:50:40 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:45:34 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 12:25:43 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 11:34:32 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 07:59:27 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
> > >> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:53:20 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:45:21 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
> > >> >> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> >> Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:13:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > >> >> >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:10:12 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:43:52 +0000, W-Dockery @news.novabbs.com
> > >> >> >> >> >> > (W-Dockery ) wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>Got it.
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
> > >> >> >> >> >> > dining room table."
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
> > >> >> >> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >And so it goes...
> > >> >> >> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
> > >> >> >> >> group.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
> > >> >> >> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...
> > >> >> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
> > >> >> child.
> > >> >
> > >> >I am. I'm not here like Will and Zod, spending so much of their time fighting most every one here. Those two post more than twice as much as everyone else combined. And these posts of theirs that you see here ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") are mostly what they post. They don't discuss poetry any deeper than a nod and they always bump the same old poems of theirs in desperate attempts to catch anyone's attention.
> > >> >
> > >> >"Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha."
> > >> >So Mr. Damia, why aren't you chiding Zod? Is Will and Zod allowed to do as you say not to? Is he implying that I'm mentally deficient? Or that it's because I'm fully disabled? He does like to use the pinhead freak show/birth defect insult, so I'm sure he's mocking me as something subhuman...
> > >> >
> > >> >I've only been away a day, and sWilly and Sod are already missing me? I, for one, do realize the vicious cycle that I help to keep in motion while my foes remain ignorant and do as the puppet strings jerk them. Did anyone think I was trying to get them to change their ways? NAY! I do the Devil's work and can only help them down their precieved well intention slippery slope-- not help them out of the pitfall of their chosen way.
> > >> >
> > >> >So Mr. Damia,
> > >> >They will blow off your suggestions to focus less on fighting, they did it to someone else that tried to defend them *(see below), because they're so embroiled it that they now cannot get themselves out of it. They won't take responsibility for it, but will try to excuse what they do by placing all the blame upon those that they label as their foes. All it takes, as I proved when I came here with possible new members, is to question, or criticize their selfish ways here and I'm just belittled as another "Usenet troll." Funny that, because I do exactly what they do...
> > >> >
> > >> >I tried to bring younger people here. It just wasn't the fighting that kept them away. They didn't want to have to constantly play the bumping game (which Dance acknowledged when taunting us) against Will and Zod's inconsiderate obsession with trying to always be the center of attention-- and the only ones seen in the first page of threads on Google's AAPC Group page. They can make a new post by someone disappear within a half hour. My people prefer moderated places and social media where they don't have to worry about "selfish" people pushing them aside so to hog up all the attention....
> > >> >
> > >> >*One of the few neutrals of this place had this to say about Will and Zod being just as much of a problem:
> > >> >(Will being part of the problem)
> > >> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
> > >> >(Will annoying them with what he was doing)
> > >> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/oC9y6haxMQM/m/L25h6RJxAQAJ
> > >> >(Will never listened to this so called "friend" of his when they told him I didn't have to show my work. I
> > >> >never brought up the subject since then-- it was always Will and Zod who did, despite what their "friend" said. I have high regard for that person- they're perhaps too idealistic but still a decent person- they supported me when Will and Sod bullied and mocked me about my work. Will and Zod loved to use this person's words for their benefit except when it damned them as well. And Will blew her off for questioning him, using her for her words that only benefited him. When this person challenged me, I took responsibility and didn't try to blame someone else for what I did. I even publicly apologized to them once for catching them in one of my criticisms. Hell, I even cut down on my posts after they confronted me about the fighting. I don't post nearly as much now as I used to when I first got into it with Will.
> > >> >
> > >> >Now that I finished posting updates for new projects-- I now sleep-- been up all night partyin' online-- all the new opportunities-- that don't involve this hell hole-- perhaps you should be askin' sWilly about gettin' on with Life and not acting like a child. Zod too! ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") They spend much more time and post spamming effort here so to fight and bury.
> > >> Fighting for the soul of the group, but the soul of the group is the
> > >> fight.
> > >
> > >You're wrong, Jake.
> > >
> > >The soul of the group is poetry. The trolls have just gotten the upper hand.
> > >
> > >Driving others away from a Usenet group doesn't make you a "big man," Jake. You're still the frail little man with peeking out from a Covid-19 mask/bandana with frightened (and somewhat lopsided) eyes.
> > >
> > >Being a troll is hardly an accomplishment. Trolls are usually impotent little men who've failed to measure up to their idealized self-image in life, and who compensate by swaggering and bullying their way through a newsgroup where no one can do anything to stop them. Such power!
> > >
> > >It takes a bigger man to stand up against the trolls and to contribute to the betterment of the group in the face of an untouchable opposition.
> > >
> > >"Sometimes lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for." -- Jefferson Smith.
> > Big words from such a little man, Spike. I am retired. I made my
> > mark decades ago. I relax now in my home on the beach next to the
> > Pacific and take occasionaly rides in my Jaguar.
> >
> > https://i.ibb.co/QrdF5QL/View.jpg
> >
> > If you were as successful as you claim to be in your self-designed web
> > sites, you wouldn't be hanging around a so-called poetry group making
> > trouble for others and trying to be the Grand Pooh Bah.
> >
> > As a matter of fact, you ARE the Grand Pooh Bah, Angelo Scarlotti. You
> > are "The GLOBFATHER of the group".
> Angelo Scarlotti...?
>
> Do tell....!

On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 5:03:32 PM UTC-5, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:45:34 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 12:25:43 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>Got it.
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
> > >> >> >> >> >> > dining room table."
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
> > >> >> >> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >And so it goes...
> > >> >> >> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
> > >> >> >> >> group.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
> > >> >> >> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...
> > >> >> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
> > >> >> child.
> > >> >
> > >> >I am. I'm not here like Will and Zod, spending so much of their time fighting most every one here. Those two post more than twice as much as everyone else combined. And these posts of theirs that you see here ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") are mostly what they post. They don't discuss poetry any deeper than a nod and they always bump the same old poems of theirs in desperate attempts to catch anyone's attention.
> > >> >
> > >> >"Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha."
> > >> >So Mr. Damia, why aren't you chiding Zod? Is Will and Zod allowed to do as you say not to? Is he implying that I'm mentally deficient? Or that it's because I'm fully disabled? He does like to use the pinhead freak show/birth defect insult, so I'm sure he's mocking me as something subhuman...
> > >> >
> > >> >I've only been away a day, and sWilly and Sod are already missing me? I, for one, do realize the vicious cycle that I help to keep in motion while my foes remain ignorant and do as the puppet strings jerk them. Did anyone think I was trying to get them to change their ways? NAY! I do the Devil's work and can only help them down their precieved well intention slippery slope-- not help them out of the pitfall of their chosen way.
> > >> >
> > >> >So Mr. Damia,
> > >> >They will blow off your suggestions to focus less on fighting, they did it to someone else that tried to defend them *(see below), because they're so embroiled it that they now cannot get themselves out of it. They won't take responsibility for it, but will try to excuse what they do by placing all the blame upon those that they label as their foes. All it takes, as I proved when I came here with possible new members, is to question, or criticize their selfish ways here and I'm just belittled as another "Usenet troll." Funny that, because I do exactly what they do...
> > >> >
> > >> >I tried to bring younger people here. It just wasn't the fighting that kept them away. They didn't want to have to constantly play the bumping game (which Dance acknowledged when taunting us) against Will and Zod's inconsiderate obsession with trying to always be the center of attention-- and the only ones seen in the first page of threads on Google's AAPC Group page. They can make a new post by someone disappear within a half hour. My people prefer moderated places and social media where they don't have to worry about "selfish" people pushing them aside so to hog up all the attention....
> > >> >
> > >> >*One of the few neutrals of this place had this to say about Will and Zod being just as much of a problem:
> > >> >(Will being part of the problem)
> > >> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
> > >> >(Will annoying them with what he was doing)
> > >> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/oC9y6haxMQM/m/L25h6RJxAQAJ
> > >> >(Will never listened to this so called "friend" of his when they told him I didn't have to show my work. I
> > >> >never brought up the subject since then-- it was always Will and Zod who did, despite what their "friend" said. I have high regard for that person- they're perhaps too idealistic but still a decent person- they supported me when Will and Sod bullied and mocked me about my work. Will and Zod loved to use this person's words for their benefit except when it damned them as well. And Will blew her off for questioning him, using her for her words that only benefited him. When this person challenged me, I took responsibility and didn't try to blame someone else for what I did. I even publicly apologized to them once for catching them in one of my criticisms. Hell, I even cut down on my posts after they confronted me about the fighting. I don't post nearly as much now as I used to when I first got into it with Will.
> > >> >
> > >> >Now that I finished posting updates for new projects-- I now sleep-- been up all night partyin' online-- all the new opportunities-- that don't involve this hell hole-- perhaps you should be askin' sWilly about gettin' on with Life and not acting like a child. Zod too! ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") They spend much more time and post spamming effort here so to fight and bury.
> > >> Fighting for the soul of the group, but the soul of the group is the
> > >> fight.
> > >
> > >You're wrong, Jake.
> > >
> > >The soul of the group is poetry. The trolls have just gotten the upper hand.
> > >
> > >Driving others away from a Usenet group doesn't make you a "big man," Jake. You're still the frail little man with peeking out from a Covid-19 mask/bandana with frightened (and somewhat lopsided) eyes.
> > >
> > >Being a troll is hardly an accomplishment. Trolls are usually impotent little men who've failed to measure up to their idealized self-image in life, and who compensate by swaggering and bullying their way through a newsgroup where no one can do anything to stop them. Such power!
> > >
> > >It takes a bigger man to stand up against the trolls and to contribute to the betterment of the group in the face of an untouchable opposition.
> > >
> > >"Sometimes lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for." -- Jefferson Smith.
> > Big words from such a little man, Spike. I am retired. I made my
> > mark decades ago. I relax now in my home on the beach next to the
> > Pacific and take occasionaly rides in my Jaguar.
> >
> > https://i.ibb.co/QrdF5QL/View.jpg
> It's the littlest men who are most prone to boast about their "success."

Yet you boast constantly of your, little Voodoo Boy... ha ha.

On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 5:09:53 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 5:03:32 PM UTC-5, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:45:34 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > > On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 12:25:43 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
> > > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>Got it.
> > > >> >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
> > > >> >> >> >> >> > dining room table."
> > > >> >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
> > > >> >> >> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
> > > >> >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
> > > >> >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >> >And so it goes...
> > > >> >> >> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
> > > >> >> >> >> group.
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
> > > >> >> >> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...
> > > >> >> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
> > > >> >> child.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >I am. I'm not here like Will and Zod, spending so much of their time fighting most every one here. Those two post more than twice as much as everyone else combined. And these posts of theirs that you see here ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") are mostly what they post. They don't discuss poetry any deeper than a nod and they always bump the same old poems of theirs in desperate attempts to catch anyone's attention.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >"Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha."
> > > >> >So Mr. Damia, why aren't you chiding Zod? Is Will and Zod allowed to do as you say not to? Is he implying that I'm mentally deficient? Or that it's because I'm fully disabled? He does like to use the pinhead freak show/birth defect insult, so I'm sure he's mocking me as something subhuman....
> > > >> >
> > > >> >I've only been away a day, and sWilly and Sod are already missing me? I, for one, do realize the vicious cycle that I help to keep in motion while my foes remain ignorant and do as the puppet strings jerk them. Did anyone think I was trying to get them to change their ways? NAY! I do the Devil's work and can only help them down their precieved well intention slippery slope-- not help them out of the pitfall of their chosen way.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >So Mr. Damia,
> > > >> >They will blow off your suggestions to focus less on fighting, they did it to someone else that tried to defend them *(see below), because they're so embroiled it that they now cannot get themselves out of it. They won't take responsibility for it, but will try to excuse what they do by placing all the blame upon those that they label as their foes. All it takes, as I proved when I came here with possible new members, is to question, or criticize their selfish ways here and I'm just belittled as another "Usenet troll." Funny that, because I do exactly what they do...
> > > >> >
> > > >> >I tried to bring younger people here. It just wasn't the fighting that kept them away. They didn't want to have to constantly play the bumping game (which Dance acknowledged when taunting us) against Will and Zod's inconsiderate obsession with trying to always be the center of attention-- and the only ones seen in the first page of threads on Google's AAPC Group page. They can make a new post by someone disappear within a half hour. My people prefer moderated places and social media where they don't have to worry about "selfish" people pushing them aside so to hog up all the attention...
> > > >> >
> > > >> >*One of the few neutrals of this place had this to say about Will and Zod being just as much of a problem:
> > > >> >(Will being part of the problem)
> > > >> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
> > > >> >(Will annoying them with what he was doing)
> > > >> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/oC9y6haxMQM/m/L25h6RJxAQAJ
> > > >> >(Will never listened to this so called "friend" of his when they told him I didn't have to show my work. I
> > > >> >never brought up the subject since then-- it was always Will and Zod who did, despite what their "friend" said. I have high regard for that person- they're perhaps too idealistic but still a decent person- they supported me when Will and Sod bullied and mocked me about my work. Will and Zod loved to use this person's words for their benefit except when it damned them as well. And Will blew her off for questioning him, using her for her words that only benefited him. When this person challenged me, I took responsibility and didn't try to blame someone else for what I did. I even publicly apologized to them once for catching them in one of my criticisms. Hell, I even cut down on my posts after they confronted me about the fighting. I don't post nearly as much now as I used to when I first got into it with Will.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Now that I finished posting updates for new projects-- I now sleep-- been up all night partyin' online-- all the new opportunities-- that don't involve this hell hole-- perhaps you should be askin' sWilly about gettin' on with Life and not acting like a child. Zod too! ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") They spend much more time and post spamming effort here so to fight and bury.
> > > >> Fighting for the soul of the group, but the soul of the group is the
> > > >> fight.
> > > >
> > > >You're wrong, Jake.
> > > >
> > > >The soul of the group is poetry. The trolls have just gotten the upper hand.
> > > >
> > > >Driving others away from a Usenet group doesn't make you a "big man," Jake. You're still the frail little man with peeking out from a Covid-19 mask/bandana with frightened (and somewhat lopsided) eyes.
> > > >
> > > >Being a troll is hardly an accomplishment. Trolls are usually impotent little men who've failed to measure up to their idealized self-image in life, and who compensate by swaggering and bullying their way through a newsgroup where no one can do anything to stop them. Such power!
> > > >
> > > >It takes a bigger man to stand up against the trolls and to contribute to the betterment of the group in the face of an untouchable opposition.
> > > >
> > > >"Sometimes lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for." -- Jefferson Smith.
> > > Big words from such a little man, Spike. I am retired. I made my
> > > mark decades ago. I relax now in my home on the beach next to the
> > > Pacific and take occasionaly rides in my Jaguar.
> > >
> > > https://i.ibb.co/QrdF5QL/View.jpg
> > It's the littlest men who are most prone to boast about their "success."
> Yet you boast constantly of your, little Voodoo Boy... ha ha.

I do not now, nor have I ever, owned a "little Voodoo Boy." WTF are you yammering about, Stink?

On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 14:05:10 -0800 (PST), Coco DeSockmonkey
<cocodesockmonkey@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:50:40 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:45:34 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> > On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 12:25:43 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>> > <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 11:34:32 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> > >> On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 07:59:27 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
>> > >> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:53:20 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> > >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:45:21 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
>> > >> >> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
>> > >> >> >> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> > >> >> >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:13:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>> > >> >> >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:10:12 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
>> > >> >> >> >> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> > >> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:43:52 +0000, W-Dockery @news.novabbs.com
>> > >> >> >> >> >> > (W-Dockery ) wrote:
>> > >> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>Got it.
>> > >> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
>> > >> >> >> >> >> > dining room table."
>> > >> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
>> > >> >> >> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
>> > >> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
>> > >> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> >> >And so it goes...
>> > >> >> >> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
>> > >> >> >> >> group.
>> > >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
>> > >> >> >> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...
>> > >> >> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
>> > >> >> child.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >I am. I'm not here like Will and Zod, spending so much of their time fighting most every one here. Those two post more than twice as much as everyone else combined. And these posts of theirs that you see here ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") are mostly what they post. They don't discuss poetry any deeper than a nod and they always bump the same old poems of theirs in desperate attempts to catch anyone's attention.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >"Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha."
>> > >> >So Mr. Damia, why aren't you chiding Zod? Is Will and Zod allowed to do as you say not to? Is he implying that I'm mentally deficient? Or that it's because I'm fully disabled? He does like to use the pinhead freak show/birth defect insult, so I'm sure he's mocking me as something subhuman...
>> > >> >
>> > >> >I've only been away a day, and sWilly and Sod are already missing me? I, for one, do realize the vicious cycle that I help to keep in motion while my foes remain ignorant and do as the puppet strings jerk them. Did anyone think I was trying to get them to change their ways? NAY! I do the Devil's work and can only help them down their precieved well intention slippery slope-- not help them out of the pitfall of their chosen way.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >So Mr. Damia,
>> > >> >They will blow off your suggestions to focus less on fighting, they did it to someone else that tried to defend them *(see below), because they're so embroiled it that they now cannot get themselves out of it. They won't take responsibility for it, but will try to excuse what they do by placing all the blame upon those that they label as their foes. All it takes, as I proved when I came here with possible new members, is to question, or criticize their selfish ways here and I'm just belittled as another "Usenet troll." Funny that, because I do exactly what they do...
>> > >> >
>> > >> >I tried to bring younger people here. It just wasn't the fighting that kept them away. They didn't want to have to constantly play the bumping game (which Dance acknowledged when taunting us) against Will and Zod's inconsiderate obsession with trying to always be the center of attention-- and the only ones seen in the first page of threads on Google's AAPC Group page. They can make a new post by someone disappear within a half hour. My people prefer moderated places and social media where they don't have to worry about "selfish" people pushing them aside so to hog up all the attention...
>> > >> >
>> > >> >*One of the few neutrals of this place had this to say about Will and Zod being just as much of a problem:
>> > >> >(Will being part of the problem)
>> > >> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
>> > >> >(Will annoying them with what he was doing)
>> > >> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/oC9y6haxMQM/m/L25h6RJxAQAJ
>> > >> >(Will never listened to this so called "friend" of his when they told him I didn't have to show my work. I
>> > >> >never brought up the subject since then-- it was always Will and Zod who did, despite what their "friend" said. I have high regard for that person- they're perhaps too idealistic but still a decent person- they supported me when Will and Sod bullied and mocked me about my work. Will and Zod loved to use this person's words for their benefit except when it damned them as well. And Will blew her off for questioning him, using her for her words that only benefited him. When this person challenged me, I took responsibility and didn't try to blame someone else for what I did. I even publicly apologized to them once for catching them in one of my criticisms. Hell, I even cut down on my posts after they confronted me about the fighting. I don't post nearly as much now as I used to when I first got into it with Will.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Now that I finished posting updates for new projects-- I now sleep-- been up all night partyin' online-- all the new opportunities-- that don't involve this hell hole-- perhaps you should be askin' sWilly about gettin' on with Life and not acting like a child. Zod too! ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") They spend much more time and post spamming effort here so to fight and bury.
>> > >> Fighting for the soul of the group, but the soul of the group is the
>> > >> fight.
>> > >
>> > >You're wrong, Jake.
>> > >
>> > >The soul of the group is poetry. The trolls have just gotten the upper hand.
>> > >
>> > >Driving others away from a Usenet group doesn't make you a "big man," Jake. You're still the frail little man with peeking out from a Covid-19 mask/bandana with frightened (and somewhat lopsided) eyes.
>> > >
>> > >Being a troll is hardly an accomplishment. Trolls are usually impotent little men who've failed to measure up to their idealized self-image in life, and who compensate by swaggering and bullying their way through a newsgroup where no one can do anything to stop them. Such power!
>> > >
>> > >It takes a bigger man to stand up against the trolls and to contribute to the betterment of the group in the face of an untouchable opposition.
>> > >
>> > >"Sometimes lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for." -- Jefferson Smith.
>> > Big words from such a little man, Spike. I am retired. I made my
>> > mark decades ago. I relax now in my home on the beach next to the
>> > Pacific and take occasionaly rides in my Jaguar.
>> >
>> > https://i.ibb.co/QrdF5QL/View.jpg
>> >
>> > If you were as successful as you claim to be in your self-designed web
>> > sites, you wouldn't be hanging around a so-called poetry group making
>> > trouble for others and trying to be the Grand Pooh Bah.
>> >
>> > As a matter of fact, you ARE the Grand Pooh Bah, Angelo Scarlotti. You
>> > are "The GLOBFATHER of the group".
>> Angelo Scarlotti...?
>>
>> Do tell....!
>
>It's the ears, Stinky. They're as unique as fingerprints and used for identification purposes abroad.
>
>Unfortunately Jake is vision-impaired.

On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 14:03:31 -0800 (PST), Coco DeSockmonkey
<cocodesockmonkey@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:45:34 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 12:25:43 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 11:34:32 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 07:59:27 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
>> >> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:53:20 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:45:21 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
>> >> >> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:13:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>> >> >> >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:10:12 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:43:52 +0000, W-Dockery @news.novabbs.com
>> >> >> >> >> >> > (W-Dockery ) wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>Got it.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
>> >> >> >> >> >> > dining room table."
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
>> >> >> >> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >And so it goes...
>> >> >> >> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
>> >> >> >> >> group.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
>> >> >> >> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...
>> >> >> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
>> >> >> child.
>> >> >
>> >> >I am. I'm not here like Will and Zod, spending so much of their time fighting most every one here. Those two post more than twice as much as everyone else combined. And these posts of theirs that you see here ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") are mostly what they post. They don't discuss poetry any deeper than a nod and they always bump the same old poems of theirs in desperate attempts to catch anyone's attention.
>> >> >
>> >> >"Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha."
>> >> >So Mr. Damia, why aren't you chiding Zod? Is Will and Zod allowed to do as you say not to? Is he implying that I'm mentally deficient? Or that it's because I'm fully disabled? He does like to use the pinhead freak show/birth defect insult, so I'm sure he's mocking me as something subhuman...
>> >> >
>> >> >I've only been away a day, and sWilly and Sod are already missing me? I, for one, do realize the vicious cycle that I help to keep in motion while my foes remain ignorant and do as the puppet strings jerk them. Did anyone think I was trying to get them to change their ways? NAY! I do the Devil's work and can only help them down their precieved well intention slippery slope-- not help them out of the pitfall of their chosen way.
>> >> >
>> >> >So Mr. Damia,
>> >> >They will blow off your suggestions to focus less on fighting, they did it to someone else that tried to defend them *(see below), because they're so embroiled it that they now cannot get themselves out of it. They won't take responsibility for it, but will try to excuse what they do by placing all the blame upon those that they label as their foes. All it takes, as I proved when I came here with possible new members, is to question, or criticize their selfish ways here and I'm just belittled as another "Usenet troll." Funny that, because I do exactly what they do...
>> >> >
>> >> >I tried to bring younger people here. It just wasn't the fighting that kept them away. They didn't want to have to constantly play the bumping game (which Dance acknowledged when taunting us) against Will and Zod's inconsiderate obsession with trying to always be the center of attention-- and the only ones seen in the first page of threads on Google's AAPC Group page. They can make a new post by someone disappear within a half hour. My people prefer moderated places and social media where they don't have to worry about "selfish" people pushing them aside so to hog up all the attention...
>> >> >
>> >> >*One of the few neutrals of this place had this to say about Will and Zod being just as much of a problem:
>> >> >(Will being part of the problem)
>> >> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
>> >> >(Will annoying them with what he was doing)
>> >> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/oC9y6haxMQM/m/L25h6RJxAQAJ
>> >> >(Will never listened to this so called "friend" of his when they told him I didn't have to show my work. I
>> >> >never brought up the subject since then-- it was always Will and Zod who did, despite what their "friend" said. I have high regard for that person- they're perhaps too idealistic but still a decent person- they supported me when Will and Sod bullied and mocked me about my work. Will and Zod loved to use this person's words for their benefit except when it damned them as well. And Will blew her off for questioning him, using her for her words that only benefited him. When this person challenged me, I took responsibility and didn't try to blame someone else for what I did. I even publicly apologized to them once for catching them in one of my criticisms. Hell, I even cut down on my posts after they confronted me about the fighting. I don't post nearly as much now as I used to when I first got into it with Will.
>> >> >
>> >> >Now that I finished posting updates for new projects-- I now sleep-- been up all night partyin' online-- all the new opportunities-- that don't involve this hell hole-- perhaps you should be askin' sWilly about gettin' on with Life and not acting like a child. Zod too! ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") They spend much more time and post spamming effort here so to fight and bury.
>> >> Fighting for the soul of the group, but the soul of the group is the
>> >> fight.
>> >
>> >You're wrong, Jake.
>> >
>> >The soul of the group is poetry. The trolls have just gotten the upper hand.
>> >
>> >Driving others away from a Usenet group doesn't make you a "big man," Jake. You're still the frail little man with peeking out from a Covid-19 mask/bandana with frightened (and somewhat lopsided) eyes.
>> >
>> >Being a troll is hardly an accomplishment. Trolls are usually impotent little men who've failed to measure up to their idealized self-image in life, and who compensate by swaggering and bullying their way through a newsgroup where no one can do anything to stop them. Such power!
>> >
>> >It takes a bigger man to stand up against the trolls and to contribute to the betterment of the group in the face of an untouchable opposition.
>> >
>> >"Sometimes lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for." -- Jefferson Smith.
>> Big words from such a little man, Spike. I am retired. I made my
>> mark decades ago. I relax now in my home on the beach next to the
>> Pacific and take occasionaly rides in my Jaguar.
>>
>> https://i.ibb.co/QrdF5QL/View.jpg
>
>It's the littlest men who are most prone to boast about their "success."
>
>> If you were as successful as you claim to be in your self-designed web
>> sites, you wouldn't be hanging around a so-called poetry group making
>> trouble for others and trying to be the Grand Pooh Bah.
>
>Are you calling "Poets & Writers" my "self-designed" website? If you've never heard of "Poets & Writers," you've got no business posting here:
>
>https://www.pw.org/

On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 14:03:31 -0800 (PST), Coco DeSockmonkey
<cocodesockmonkey@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 4:45:34 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 12:25:43 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 11:34:32 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 07:59:27 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
>> >> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:53:20 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:45:21 -0800 (PST), Ash Wurthing
>> >> >> <ashwu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 3:40:11 PM UTC-5, W-Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 11:13:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Pendragon
>> >> >> >> >> <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 2:10:12 PM UTC-5, W.Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:43:52 +0000, W-Dockery @news.novabbs.com
>> >> >> >> >> >> > (W-Dockery ) wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> NancyGene has been a regular member of AAPC for seven (?) years now, and has never displayed the slightest trace of any personality disorder.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>Right, because NancyGene being an obsessive malicious stalker troll is normal to a delusional bigot like you.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>Got it.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Will, as Barney Frank said years ago, "It is no use arguing with a
>> >> >> >> >> >> > dining room table."
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > "Dining room table" is a code for "fuckwit".
>> >> >> >> >> >> Barney Frank nailed it.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Just as I nailed it when I called you a "potato" for the exact same reason.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >And so it goes...
>> >> >> >> >> Yes it does, becaaue your words mean nothing. And the proof is in this
>> >> >> >> >> group.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> You are merely an empty barrell who makes the most noise.
>> >> >> >> > And # Will Dockery wants xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Ash Wurthing?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Trap is set... you and Dance always fall for it and you're awfully quiet when I hit you like a wrecking ball with the truth you attempt to hide from. Your fear is obvious in your censoring...
>> >> >> For god's sake, man, get on with your life and stop behaving like a
>> >> >> child.
>> >> >
>> >> >I am. I'm not here like Will and Zod, spending so much of their time fighting most every one here. Those two post more than twice as much as everyone else combined. And these posts of theirs that you see here ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") are mostly what they post. They don't discuss poetry any deeper than a nod and they always bump the same old poems of theirs in desperate attempts to catch anyone's attention.
>> >> >
>> >> >"Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha."
>> >> >So Mr. Damia, why aren't you chiding Zod? Is Will and Zod allowed to do as you say not to? Is he implying that I'm mentally deficient? Or that it's because I'm fully disabled? He does like to use the pinhead freak show/birth defect insult, so I'm sure he's mocking me as something subhuman...
>> >> >
>> >> >I've only been away a day, and sWilly and Sod are already missing me? I, for one, do realize the vicious cycle that I help to keep in motion while my foes remain ignorant and do as the puppet strings jerk them. Did anyone think I was trying to get them to change their ways? NAY! I do the Devil's work and can only help them down their precieved well intention slippery slope-- not help them out of the pitfall of their chosen way.
>> >> >
>> >> >So Mr. Damia,
>> >> >They will blow off your suggestions to focus less on fighting, they did it to someone else that tried to defend them *(see below), because they're so embroiled it that they now cannot get themselves out of it. They won't take responsibility for it, but will try to excuse what they do by placing all the blame upon those that they label as their foes. All it takes, as I proved when I came here with possible new members, is to question, or criticize their selfish ways here and I'm just belittled as another "Usenet troll." Funny that, because I do exactly what they do...
>> >> >
>> >> >I tried to bring younger people here. It just wasn't the fighting that kept them away. They didn't want to have to constantly play the bumping game (which Dance acknowledged when taunting us) against Will and Zod's inconsiderate obsession with trying to always be the center of attention-- and the only ones seen in the first page of threads on Google's AAPC Group page. They can make a new post by someone disappear within a half hour. My people prefer moderated places and social media where they don't have to worry about "selfish" people pushing them aside so to hog up all the attention...
>> >> >
>> >> >*One of the few neutrals of this place had this to say about Will and Zod being just as much of a problem:
>> >> >(Will being part of the problem)
>> >> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/WP62bhs4b9E/m/QBWONiRfAgAJ
>> >> >(Will annoying them with what he was doing)
>> >> >https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/oC9y6haxMQM/m/L25h6RJxAQAJ
>> >> >(Will never listened to this so called "friend" of his when they told him I didn't have to show my work. I
>> >> >never brought up the subject since then-- it was always Will and Zod who did, despite what their "friend" said. I have high regard for that person- they're perhaps too idealistic but still a decent person- they supported me when Will and Sod bullied and mocked me about my work. Will and Zod loved to use this person's words for their benefit except when it damned them as well. And Will blew her off for questioning him, using her for her words that only benefited him. When this person challenged me, I took responsibility and didn't try to blame someone else for what I did. I even publicly apologized to them once for catching them in one of my criticisms. Hell, I even cut down on my posts after they confronted me about the fighting. I don't post nearly as much now as I used to when I first got into it with Will.
>> >> >
>> >> >Now that I finished posting updates for new projects-- I now sleep-- been up all night partyin' online-- all the new opportunities-- that don't involve this hell hole-- perhaps you should be askin' sWilly about gettin' on with Life and not acting like a child. Zod too! ("Mack, meet Ash, he's out "special" child here.... ha ha.") They spend much more time and post spamming effort here so to fight and bury.
>> >> Fighting for the soul of the group, but the soul of the group is the
>> >> fight.
>> >
>> >You're wrong, Jake.
>> >
>> >The soul of the group is poetry. The trolls have just gotten the upper hand.
>> >
>> >Driving others away from a Usenet group doesn't make you a "big man," Jake. You're still the frail little man with peeking out from a Covid-19 mask/bandana with frightened (and somewhat lopsided) eyes.
>> >
>> >Being a troll is hardly an accomplishment. Trolls are usually impotent little men who've failed to measure up to their idealized self-image in life, and who compensate by swaggering and bullying their way through a newsgroup where no one can do anything to stop them. Such power!
>> >
>> >It takes a bigger man to stand up against the trolls and to contribute to the betterment of the group in the face of an untouchable opposition.
>> >
>> >"Sometimes lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for." -- Jefferson Smith.
>> Big words from such a little man, Spike. I am retired. I made my
>> mark decades ago. I relax now in my home on the beach next to the
>> Pacific and take occasionaly rides in my Jaguar.
>>
>> https://i.ibb.co/QrdF5QL/View.jpg
>
>It's the littlest men who are most prone to boast about their "success."