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* On the subject of plagiarismNancyGene
+* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
|+* Re: On the subject of plagiarismZod
||`* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
|| `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMichael Pendragon
||  `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismNancyGene
||   `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
||    `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismNancyGene
||     `- Re: On the subject of plagiarismNancyGene
|`- Re: On the subject of plagiarismGeneral-Zod
+- Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
+- Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
+* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMichael Pendragon
|`* Re: On the subject of plagiarismNancyGene
| +* Re: On the subject of plagiarismSpam-I-Am
| |`* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMichael Pendragon
| | `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismSpam-I-Am
| |  +* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
| |  |`* Re: On the subject of plagiarismSpam-I-Am
| |  | `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
| |  |  `- Re: On the subject of plagiarismSpam-I-Am
| |  `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMichael Pendragon
| |   `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismNancyGene
| |    +* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMichael Pendragon
| |    |`- Re: On the subject of plagiarismNancyGene
| |    +- Re: On the subject of plagiarismSpam-I-Am
| |    `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismME
| |     `- Re: On the subject of plagiarismWill Dockery
| `- Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
`* Re: On the subject of plagiarismGeorge Dance
 +* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
 |+- Re: On the subject of plagiarismWill Dockery
 |`* Re: On the subject of plagiarismSpam-I-Am
 | `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
 |  +* Re: On the subject of plagiarismSpam-I-Am
 |  |`* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
 |  | `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismSpam-I-Am
 |  |  `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
 |  |   +* Re: On the subject of plagiarismSpam-I-Am
 |  |   |`- Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
 |  |   `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMichael Pendragon
 |  |    `- Re: On the subject of plagiarismSpam-I-Am
 |  `- Re: On the subject of plagiarismWill Dockery
 +- Re: On the subject of plagiarismWill Dockery
 +* Re: On the subject of plagiarismCoco DeSockmonkey
 |+* Re: On the subject of plagiarismGeorge Dance
 ||+- Re: On the subject of plagiarismMichael Pendragon
 ||`- Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
 |+- Re: On the subject of plagiarismW-Dockery
 |`* Re: On the subject of plagiarismNancyGene
 | +* Re: On the subject of plagiarismSpam-I-Am
 | |`* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMichael Pendragon
 | | `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismSpam-I-Am
 | |  `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
 | |   +* Re: On the subject of plagiarismSpam-I-Am
 | |   |`* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
 | |   | `- Re: On the subject of plagiarismSpam-I-Am
 | |   `- Re: On the subject of plagiarismME
 | +- Re: On the subject of plagiarismMichael Pendragon
 | +* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
 | |`* Re: On the subject of plagiarismME
 | | +* Re: On the subject of plagiarismME
 | | |+- Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
 | | |`* Re: On the subject of plagiarismGeorge Dance
 | | | `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismME
 | | |  `- Re: On the subject of plagiarismNancyGene
 | | `- Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
 | `* Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
 |  +- Re: On the subject of plagiarismMack A. Damia
 |  `- Re: On the subject of plagiarismMichael Pendragon
 `- Re: On the subject of plagiarismZod

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 by: Mack A. Damia - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 16:44 UTC

On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 04:22:26 -0800 (PST), NancyGene
<nancygene.andjayme@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:35:45 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:30:58 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> > On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 14:50:42 -0800 (PST), Zod <vhug...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:47:45 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> > >> On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 13:47:45 -0800 (PST), NancyGene
>> > >> <nancygene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >Class, we know that you recall our
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> You are one silly ass.
>> > >>
>> > >> All those quotes were referenced. See the reference and check the
>> > >> bibliography.
>> > >>
>> > >> You really don't know much, do you?
>> > >>
>> > >> You are a dishonest and deceitful worm.
>> > >
>> > >Nancy G. is one of those "know it all"s who... don't.
>> > >
>> > >Ha ha.
>> > She has absolutely no idea of the format of a dissertation.
>> >
>> > The doctoral dissertation presents "NEW" and "ORIGINAL" research into
>> > a given topic.
>> >
>> > In order to do that,a "Rationale" is needed along with a "Review of
>> > the Literature" (previous research) into the topic at hand. Of course
>> > it is referenced!
>> >
>> > Then the "research design" and the "research", itself.
>> >
>> > (NancyGoon doesn't know what an ANOVA is from her pucker.)
>> >
>> > Results of the research and the conclusion.
>> >
>> > Bibliography. (All literature that has been referenced and utilized).
>> And... MELTDOWN!!!
>>
>> Game: NancyGene.
>>
>> Well played.
>Thank you. We didn't have to go very far into his paper to see that he was taking the lazy, illegal way of writing it. The example we just posted was on page 5!

Seriously, Nancy, you don't understand. The dissertation was writen
in a style approved by my university and college of Human Resources
and Education. All disertations written by students in the college
are in that format. I had an advisor who approved everything, and I
had five Ph.D's read an approve my dissertation. I went through an
oral defense of it with all of them present and asking me questions.

I may have put quotes in my first draft and was told to take them out.
It is the APAs "liberal style" of referencing.

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 by: Mack A. Damia - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 16:52 UTC

On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 03:23:03 -0800 (PST), Spam-I-Am
<hieronymous707@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:08:29 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 16:49:50 -0800 (PST), George Dance
>> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>> >> Class, we know that you recall our previous discussions on plagiarism. “Don’t plagiarize. Express your own thoughts in your own words…. Note, too, that simply changing a few words here and there, or changing the order of a few words in a sentence or paragraph, is still plagiarism. Plagiarism is one of the most serious crimes in academia.” (Pechenik, 2001; p.10).
>> >> https://ori.hhs.gov/education/products/roig_st_johns/paraphrasing%20and%20plagiarism.html
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Therefore, consider Exhibit A from a dissertation submitted to a college that is one trailer-step-up from a diploma mill. All caps on words are our emphasis on the extremely disturbing similarities between the dissertation and the source material. > < denotes substituted words.
>> >>
>> >> Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.
>> >>
>> >> Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
>> >> “INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, which >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “
>> >
>> >How is that plagiarism when he cited the source -- "Tocqueville (1956)."?
>> >
>> >> We think that the school should retroactively reject the dissertation and withdraw the degree. There are other instances of plagiarism, and we see a pattern that has continued to this day.
>> >
>> >We think you're a clown.
>> Hard to believe that anybody would display that amount of ignorance
>> for the world to see. Maybe she doesn't realize that what she writes
>> is permanent and can be read by anybody.
>>
>> I think she is just a horrid little girl who says anything that jumps
>> into her warped mind. I have never experienced anybody who displays
>> such abject stupidity.
>
>There is no such thing as “abject stupidity”.

Oh yeah?

Best to do your homework before you open your yap.

https://thesaurus.plus/related/abject_stupidity/idiocy

https://ludwig.guru/s/abject+stupidity

https://www.salon.com/2007/10/29/right_wing_blogs/

in the sense of idiocy
Definition
utter stupidity
the idiocy of subsidies for activities which damage the environment

Synonyms:
foolishness,insanity,lunacy,tomfoolery,inanity,imbecility,senselessness,fatuity,
"abject stupidity", asininity, fatuousness

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english-thesaurus/stupidity

Looks like you lose another one, bunky.

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 by: Mack A. Damia - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 17:00 UTC

On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 04:20:29 -0800 (PST), George Dance
<georgedance04@yahoo.ca> wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 9:50:21 PM UTC-5, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 7:49:51 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>> > > Class, we know that you recall our previous discussions on plagiarism. “Don’t plagiarize. Express your own thoughts in your own words…. Note, too, that simply changing a few words here and there, or changing the order of a few words in a sentence or paragraph, is still plagiarism. Plagiarism is one of the most serious crimes in academia.” (Pechenik, 2001; p.10).
>> > > https://ori.hhs.gov/education/products/roig_st_johns/paraphrasing%20and%20plagiarism.html
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Therefore, consider Exhibit A from a dissertation submitted to a college that is one trailer-step-up from a diploma mill. All caps on words are our emphasis on the extremely disturbing similarities between the dissertation and the source material. > < denotes substituted words.
>> > >
>> > > Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.
>> > >
>> > > Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
>> > > “INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, which >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “
>> > How is that plagiarism when he cited the source -- "Tocqueville (1956)."?
>> > > We think that the school should retroactively reject the dissertation and withdraw the degree. There are other instances of plagiarism, and we see a pattern that has continued to this day.
>> > We think you're a clown.
>
>> His "original" statement summarizing Tocqueville was copied almost directly from its source. A direct quote would have been preferable.
>
>He was summarizing Tocqueville's views. Whether a direct quote would have been preferable is fair comment,;but we're not discussing the aesthetics of the paper but its ethics, so it is irrelevant.
>
>> As NancyGene correctly pointed out, Jake's dissertation paper appears to have been little more than a modified version of its source.
>
>NastyGene did not link the paper, and the only version I've found is mostly beyond a paywall; but it's clear from the title alone -- "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs" -- that it was not a paper on Tocqueville's political philosophy, or on political philosophy at all. The one sentence NG did quote looks like part of a quick summary of historical views that often form part of a paper's introductory remarks. For NastyGene to call the paper a "modified version" of a Tocqueville essay, and for you to agree with that, shows only that neither of you even bothered to read it.
>
>> He's like the kid who copies his homework essay from the text book, making sure to change a few words here and there to make it "original."
>>
>> No self-respecting teacher would accept something like that... yet Jake claims to have been a teacher.
>
>Either you've forgotten that this is a dissertation, that passed review by professors in the field (who are obviously more competent judges of it than either your or your troll ally), or you're trying an Emperor's New Clothes argument simply to slander them as well.

Yes!

I will repeat what I wrote to Nancy a few minutes ago:

The dissertation was writen in a style approved by my university and
college of Human Resources and Education. All disertations written by
students in the college are in that format. I had an advisor who
approved everything, and I had five Ph.D's read and approve my
dissertation. I went through an oral defense of it with all of them
present and asking me questions.

It was written over thirty years ago and was well-received. If there
was blatant plagiarism, there would have been repercussions by now. It
was approved by five Ph.D's who all had reputations to uphold.

I may have put some quotation marks in my first draft and was told to
take them out. It is the APAs "liberal style" of referencing.

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 by: Mack A. Damia - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 17:07 UTC

On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 04:44:22 -0800 (PST), NancyGene
<nancygene.andjayme@gmail.com> wrote:>

> An Ed.D. is not worth a "pitcher of warm spit,"

The only degree Harvard University School of Education offers is a
Doctor of Education (Ed.D.).

You have no idea whaat you are talking about; you are a nasty,
spiteful bitch.

https://drexel.edu/soe/resources/career-path/edd-vs-phd/

Anyway NastyNancyGoon, I get called "Doctor" by many who know. You
don't. LOL!

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On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 4:44:15 PM UTC, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 04:22:26 -0800 (PST), NancyGene
> <nancygene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:35:45 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:30:58 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 14:50:42 -0800 (PST), Zod <vhug...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:47:45 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> > >> On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 13:47:45 -0800 (PST), NancyGene
> >> > >> <nancygene...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >Class, we know that you recall our
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >> You are one silly ass.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> All those quotes were referenced. See the reference and check the
> >> > >> bibliography.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> You really don't know much, do you?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> You are a dishonest and deceitful worm.
> >> > >
> >> > >Nancy G. is one of those "know it all"s who... don't.
> >> > >
> >> > >Ha ha.
> >> > She has absolutely no idea of the format of a dissertation.
> >> >
> >> > The doctoral dissertation presents "NEW" and "ORIGINAL" research into
> >> > a given topic.
> >> >
> >> > In order to do that,a "Rationale" is needed along with a "Review of
> >> > the Literature" (previous research) into the topic at hand. Of course
> >> > it is referenced!
> >> >
> >> > Then the "research design" and the "research", itself.
> >> >
> >> > (NancyGoon doesn't know what an ANOVA is from her pucker.)
> >> >
> >> > Results of the research and the conclusion.
> >> >
> >> > Bibliography. (All literature that has been referenced and utilized)..
> >> And... MELTDOWN!!!
> >>
> >> Game: NancyGene.
> >>
> >> Well played.
> >Thank you. We didn't have to go very far into his paper to see that he was taking the lazy, illegal way of writing it. The example we just posted was on page 5!
> Seriously, Nancy, you don't understand. The dissertation was writen
> in a style approved by my university and college of Human Resources
> and Education.
Is that the "C+" level of scholarship? "Writen?" We understand you all too well.

> All disertations written by students in the college
What about the dissertations?

> are in that format. I had an advisor who approved everything, and I
> had five Ph.D's read an approve
You need an "and" there. We doubt that there were five Ph.D.s at that college. Were they Ed.D.s?

> my dissertation. I went through an
> oral defense of it with all of them present and asking me questions.
They asked if you knew your name and where you lived. They didn't care about the paper.
>
> I may have put quotes in my first draft and was told to take them out.
> It is the APAs "liberal style" of referencing.
Sure you did. The APA is a method of citing sources, but it does not condone plagiarism. Using more than 5% of the original text (without quotation marks) is plagiarism. The above is NOT expressing the concepts in YOUR OWN WORDS. With today's plagiarism detection programs, your dissertation would have been flagged and rejected.

***Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.*** 30 WORDS EXACTLY from Tocqueville and three substitutions.

***Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
“INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, WHICH >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “ ***

Mr. de Tocqueville would sue you if he could. You are a plagiarist.

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On Wednesday, 28 December 2022 at 12:07:51 UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 04:44:22 -0800 (PST), NancyGene
> <nancygene...@gmail.com> wrote:>
>
> > An Ed.D. is not worth a "pitcher of warm spit,"
> The only degree Harvard University School of Education offers is a
> Doctor of Education (Ed.D.).
>
> You have no idea whaat you are talking about; you are a nasty,
> spiteful bitch.
>
> https://drexel.edu/soe/resources/career-path/edd-vs-phd/
>
> Anyway NastyNancyGoon, I get called "Doctor" by many who know. You
> don't. LOL!

You are a graduate of Harvard?

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 by: NancyGene - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 17:28 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 5:12:05 PM UTC, NancyGene wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 4:44:15 PM UTC, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 04:22:26 -0800 (PST), NancyGene
> > <nancygene...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:35:45 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 6:30:58 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >> > On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 14:50:42 -0800 (PST), Zod <vhug...@gmail.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 5:47:45 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > >> > >> On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 13:47:45 -0800 (PST), NancyGene
> > >> > >> <nancygene...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> >Class, we know that you recall our
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> You are one silly ass.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> All those quotes were referenced. See the reference and check the
> > >> > >> bibliography.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> You really don't know much, do you?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> You are a dishonest and deceitful worm.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Nancy G. is one of those "know it all"s who... don't.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Ha ha.
> > >> > She has absolutely no idea of the format of a dissertation.
> > >> >
> > >> > The doctoral dissertation presents "NEW" and "ORIGINAL" research into
> > >> > a given topic.
> > >> >
> > >> > In order to do that,a "Rationale" is needed along with a "Review of
> > >> > the Literature" (previous research) into the topic at hand. Of course
> > >> > it is referenced!
> > >> >
> > >> > Then the "research design" and the "research", itself.
> > >> >
> > >> > (NancyGoon doesn't know what an ANOVA is from her pucker.)
> > >> >
> > >> > Results of the research and the conclusion.
> > >> >
> > >> > Bibliography. (All literature that has been referenced and utilized).
> > >> And... MELTDOWN!!!
> > >>
> > >> Game: NancyGene.
> > >>
> > >> Well played.
> > >Thank you. We didn't have to go very far into his paper to see that he was taking the lazy, illegal way of writing it. The example we just posted was on page 5!
> > Seriously, Nancy, you don't understand. The dissertation was writen
> > in a style approved by my university and college of Human Resources
> > and Education.
> Is that the "C+" level of scholarship? "Writen?" We understand you all too well.
> > All disertations written by students in the college
> What about the dissertations?
> > are in that format. I had an advisor who approved everything, and I
> > had five Ph.D's read an approve
> You need an "and" there. We doubt that there were five Ph.D.s at that college. Were they Ed.D.s?
> > my dissertation. I went through an
> > oral defense of it with all of them present and asking me questions.
> They asked if you knew your name and where you lived. They didn't care about the paper.
> >
> > I may have put quotes in my first draft and was told to take them out.
> > It is the APAs "liberal style" of referencing.
> Sure you did. The APA is a method of citing sources, but it does not condone plagiarism. Using more than 5% of the original text (without quotation marks) is plagiarism. The above is NOT expressing the concepts in YOUR OWN WORDS. With today's plagiarism detection programs, your dissertation would have been flagged and rejected.
>
> ***Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.*** 30 WORDS EXACTLY from Tocqueville and three substitutions.
>
> ***Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
> “INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, WHICH >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “ ***
>
> Mr. de Tocqueville would sue you if he could. You are a plagiarist.

Also, the Harvard Graduate School of Education offers an Ed.L.D. (Doctor of Education Leadership) degree AND a Ph.D. degree. https://www.gse.harvard..edu/admissions/apply
The Average GRE Quant Score for a Ph.D. at Harvard is 158 with a 3.5 undergraduate GPA. The Ed. L.D. average GRE Quant Score is 157 with a 3.65 undergraduate GPA. That is not you and that isn't University of West Virginia.

ME--no, David R. Procter is not a graduate of Harvard. Harvard would spit on him.

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 by: Mack A. Damia - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 17:34 UTC

On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 04:44:22 -0800 (PST), NancyGene
<nancygene.andjayme@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 2:50:21 AM UTC, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 7:49:51 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>> > > Class, we know that you recall our previous discussions on plagiarism. “Don’t plagiarize. Express your own thoughts in your own words…. Note, too, that simply changing a few words here and there, or changing the order of a few words in a sentence or paragraph, is still plagiarism. Plagiarism is one of the most serious crimes in academia.” (Pechenik, 2001; p.10).
>> > > https://ori.hhs.gov/education/products/roig_st_johns/paraphrasing%20and%20plagiarism.html
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Therefore, consider Exhibit A from a dissertation submitted to a college that is one trailer-step-up from a diploma mill. All caps on words are our emphasis on the extremely disturbing similarities between the dissertation and the source material. > < denotes substituted words.
>> > >
>> > > Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.
>> > >
>> > > Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
>> > > “INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, which >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “
>> > How is that plagiarism when he cited the source -- "Tocqueville (1956)."?
>> > > We think that the school should retroactively reject the dissertation and withdraw the degree. There are other instances of plagiarism, and we see a pattern that has continued to this day.
>> > We think you're a clown.
>> His "original" statement summarizing Tocqueville was copied almost directly from its source. A direct quote would have been preferable.
>
>That is the first thing a student learns when writing a term paper in high school--don't plagiarize, write the concept in "your own words," and give your sources. We were astounded that a person who was seeking a higher degree would stoop to just substituting a word here and there and presenting the sentences as his own. However, the paper was "written" in 1992, before the Internet was available to check sources. We think that David R. Procter thought he would never get caught. Enter NancyGene.
>>
>> As NancyGene correctly pointed out, Jake's dissertation paper appears to have been little more than a modified version of its source.
>Copied and pasted.
>>
>> He's like the kid who copies his homework essay from the text book, making sure to change a few words here and there to make it "original."
>Or the one who does his book report from the description of the book on the dust jacket flap.
>>
>> No self-respecting teacher would accept something like that... yet Jake claims to have been a teacher.
>His college is not well respected, and we doubt that anyone looked at his "dissertation." It also has incorrect punctuation, which someone should have caught (if anyone had actually read it). An Ed.D. is not worth a "pitcher of warm spit," and the only reason to get one would be if the person wanted to be a principal or administrator at a school. The "dissertation" is essentially a glorified term paper, with no original thought. The Ed.D. degree is easy to get (a joke) and doesn't require any particular brain power. We see that the people who are admitted to the graduate program at WVU only have to have a 2.75 GPA! Wow.

I was down but not quite out before I entered the program. I
interviewed at a few universities, and WVU was the only one that
offered me a GTA. Free tuition plus $400.00 per month for teaching
two sections of a foundations course. I supervised three student
teachers, too.

How did you become such a nasty, spiteful person? Did your parents
abuse you? Daddy creeping into your room at night?

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 04:21:04 -0800 (PST), NancyGene
<nancygene.andjayme@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:34:04 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>> > Class, we know that you recall our previous discussions on plagiarism. “Don’t plagiarize. Express your own thoughts in your own words…. Note, too, that simply changing a few words here and there, or changing the order of a few words in a sentence or paragraph, is still plagiarism. Plagiarism is one of the most serious crimes in academia.” (Pechenik, 2001; p.10).
>> > https://ori.hhs.gov/education/products/roig_st_johns/paraphrasing%20and%20plagiarism.html
>> >
>> > Therefore, consider Exhibit A from a dissertation submitted to a college that is one trailer-step-up from a diploma mill. All caps on words are our emphasis on the extremely disturbing similarities between the dissertation and the source material. > < denotes substituted words.
>> >
>> > Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.
>> >
>> > Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
>> > “INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, which >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “
>> >
>> > We think that the school should retroactively reject the dissertation and withdraw the degree. There are other instances of plagiarism, and we see a pattern that has continued to this day.
>> BURNED!!!
>
>Yes, David R. Procter is a proven plagiarist. There are more examples.

Take it up with the university. They are responsible for approvong
the dissertation. They will laugh at you, and you won't get a reply.

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On Wednesday, 28 December 2022 at 12:17:48 UTC-5, ME wrote:
> On Wednesday, 28 December 2022 at 12:07:51 UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 04:44:22 -0800 (PST), NancyGene
> > <nancygene...@gmail.com> wrote:>
> >
> > > An Ed.D. is not worth a "pitcher of warm spit,"
> > The only degree Harvard University School of Education offers is a
> > Doctor of Education (Ed.D.).
> >
> > You have no idea whaat you are talking about; you are a nasty,
> > spiteful bitch.
> >
> > https://drexel.edu/soe/resources/career-path/edd-vs-phd/
> >
> > Anyway NastyNancyGoon, I get called "Doctor" by many who know. You
> > don't. LOL!
> You are a graduate of Harvard?

Mack, you didn’t answer my question.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 17:58 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 11:53:03 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 03:23:03 -0800 (PST), Spam-I-Am
> <hierony...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:08:29 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 16:49:50 -0800 (PST), George Dance
> >> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> >> >> Class, we know that you recall our previous discussions on plagiarism. “Don’t plagiarize. Express your own thoughts in your own words…. Note, too, that simply changing a few words here and there, or changing the order of a few words in a sentence or paragraph, is still plagiarism. Plagiarism is one of the most serious crimes in academia.” (Pechenik, 2001; p.10).
> >> >> https://ori.hhs.gov/education/products/roig_st_johns/paraphrasing%20and%20plagiarism.html
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Therefore, consider Exhibit A from a dissertation submitted to a college that is one trailer-step-up from a diploma mill. All caps on words are our emphasis on the extremely disturbing similarities between the dissertation and the source material. > < denotes substituted words.
> >> >>
> >> >> Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.
> >> >>
> >> >> Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
> >> >> “INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, which >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “
> >> >
> >> >How is that plagiarism when he cited the source -- "Tocqueville (1956)."?
> >> >
> >> >> We think that the school should retroactively reject the dissertation and withdraw the degree. There are other instances of plagiarism, and we see a pattern that has continued to this day.
> >> >
> >> >We think you're a clown.
> >> Hard to believe that anybody would display that amount of ignorance
> >> for the world to see. Maybe she doesn't realize that what she writes
> >> is permanent and can be read by anybody.
> >>
> >> I think she is just a horrid little girl who says anything that jumps
> >> into her warped mind. I have never experienced anybody who displays
> >> such abject stupidity.
> >
> >There is no such thing as “abject stupidity”.
> Oh yeah?
>
> Best to do your homework before you open your yap.
>
> https://thesaurus.plus/related/abject_stupidity/idiocy
>
> https://ludwig.guru/s/abject+stupidity
>
> https://www.salon.com/2007/10/29/right_wing_blogs/
>
> in the sense of idiocy
> Definition
> utter stupidity
> the idiocy of subsidies for activities which damage the environment
>
> Synonyms:
> foolishness,insanity,lunacy,tomfoolery,inanity,imbecility,senselessness,fatuity,
> "abject stupidity", asininity, fatuousness
>
> https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english-thesaurus/stupidity
>
> Looks like you lose another one, bunky.

“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.”

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:05 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 9:28:42 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 7:35:56 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 7:21:05 AM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:34:04 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > Class, we know that you recall our previous discussions on plagiarism. “Don’t plagiarize. Express your own thoughts in your own words…. Note, too, that simply changing a few words here and there, or changing the order of a few words in a sentence or paragraph, is still plagiarism. Plagiarism is one of the most serious crimes in academia.” (Pechenik, 2001; p.10).
> > > > > https://ori.hhs.gov/education/products/roig_st_johns/paraphrasing%20and%20plagiarism.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore, consider Exhibit A from a dissertation submitted to a college that is one trailer-step-up from a diploma mill. All caps on words are our emphasis on the extremely disturbing similarities between the dissertation and the source material. > < denotes substituted words.
> > > > >
> > > > > Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.
> > > > >
> > > > > Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
> > > > > “INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, which >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “
> > > > >
> > > > > We think that the school should retroactively reject the dissertation and withdraw the degree. There are other instances of plagiarism, and we see a pattern that has continued to this day.
> > > > BURNED!!!
> > > Yes, David R. Procter is a proven plagiarist. There are more examples..
> > Who’s afraid of a “proven plagiarist”? David R. Procter is an emotionally
> > unstable, but highly trained government assassin. Be afraid, be very afraid.
> To date, I have seen 4 photos of D.R. Procter -- 2 dating from several years ago, where he appears relatively robust for a man of his advanced years.... and two more recent ones where he appears to be a shell of his former self. At this point, I doubt that he could lift a seven pound military rifle, much less actually use one.

I wouldn’t underestimate his vituperation if I were you.

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 09:58:40 -0800 (PST), Spam-I-Am
<hieronymous707@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 11:53:03 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 03:23:03 -0800 (PST), Spam-I-Am
>> <hierony...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:08:29 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 16:49:50 -0800 (PST), George Dance
>> >> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>> >> >> Class, we know that you recall our previous discussions on plagiarism. “Don’t plagiarize. Express your own thoughts in your own words…. Note, too, that simply changing a few words here and there, or changing the order of a few words in a sentence or paragraph, is still plagiarism. Plagiarism is one of the most serious crimes in academia.” (Pechenik, 2001; p.10).
>> >> >> https://ori.hhs.gov/education/products/roig_st_johns/paraphrasing%20and%20plagiarism.html
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Therefore, consider Exhibit A from a dissertation submitted to a college that is one trailer-step-up from a diploma mill. All caps on words are our emphasis on the extremely disturbing similarities between the dissertation and the source material. > < denotes substituted words.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
>> >> >> “INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, which >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “
>> >> >
>> >> >How is that plagiarism when he cited the source -- "Tocqueville (1956)."?
>> >> >
>> >> >> We think that the school should retroactively reject the dissertation and withdraw the degree. There are other instances of plagiarism, and we see a pattern that has continued to this day.
>> >> >
>> >> >We think you're a clown.
>> >> Hard to believe that anybody would display that amount of ignorance
>> >> for the world to see. Maybe she doesn't realize that what she writes
>> >> is permanent and can be read by anybody.
>> >>
>> >> I think she is just a horrid little girl who says anything that jumps
>> >> into her warped mind. I have never experienced anybody who displays
>> >> such abject stupidity.
>> >
>> >There is no such thing as “abject stupidity”.
>> Oh yeah?
>>
>> Best to do your homework before you open your yap.
>>
>> https://thesaurus.plus/related/abject_stupidity/idiocy
>>
>> https://ludwig.guru/s/abject+stupidity
>>
>> https://www.salon.com/2007/10/29/right_wing_blogs/
>>
>> in the sense of idiocy
>> Definition
>> utter stupidity
>> the idiocy of subsidies for activities which damage the environment
>>
>> Synonyms:
>> foolishness,insanity,lunacy,tomfoolery,inanity,imbecility,senselessness,fatuity,
>> "abject stupidity", asininity, fatuousness
>>
>> https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english-thesaurus/stupidity
>>
>> Looks like you lose another one, bunky.
>
>“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.”

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity."
- Albert Einstein

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 by: Mack A. Damia - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:09 UTC

On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 09:17:47 -0800 (PST), ME <rivermutant27@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wednesday, 28 December 2022 at 12:07:51 UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 04:44:22 -0800 (PST), NancyGene
>> <nancygene...@gmail.com> wrote:>
>>
>> > An Ed.D. is not worth a "pitcher of warm spit,"
>> The only degree Harvard University School of Education offers is a
>> Doctor of Education (Ed.D.).
>>
>> You have no idea whaat you are talking about; you are a nasty,
>> spiteful bitch.
>>
>> https://drexel.edu/soe/resources/career-path/edd-vs-phd/
>>
>> Anyway NastyNancyGoon, I get called "Doctor" by many who know. You
>> don't. LOL!
>
>
>You are a graduate of Harvard?

You didn't get it.

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 by: Mack A. Damia - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:11 UTC

On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 09:47:34 -0800 (PST), ME <rivermutant27@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wednesday, 28 December 2022 at 12:17:48 UTC-5, ME wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 28 December 2022 at 12:07:51 UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> > On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 04:44:22 -0800 (PST), NancyGene
>> > <nancygene...@gmail.com> wrote:>
>> >
>> > > An Ed.D. is not worth a "pitcher of warm spit,"
>> > The only degree Harvard University School of Education offers is a
>> > Doctor of Education (Ed.D.).
>> >
>> > You have no idea whaat you are talking about; you are a nasty,
>> > spiteful bitch.
>> >
>> > https://drexel.edu/soe/resources/career-path/edd-vs-phd/
>> >
>> > Anyway NastyNancyGoon, I get called "Doctor" by many who know. You
>> > don't. LOL!
>> You are a graduate of Harvard?
>
>Mack, you didn’t answer my question.

You didn't get it. It is beyond your level of comprehension, fella.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:13 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 9:43:36 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 7:54:04 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 7:44:24 AM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 2:50:21 AM UTC, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 7:49:51 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > Class, we know that you recall our previous discussions on plagiarism. “Don’t plagiarize. Express your own thoughts in your own words…. Note, too, that simply changing a few words here and there, or changing the order of a few words in a sentence or paragraph, is still plagiarism. Plagiarism is one of the most serious crimes in academia.” (Pechenik, 2001; p.10).
> > > > > > https://ori.hhs.gov/education/products/roig_st_johns/paraphrasing%20and%20plagiarism.html
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Therefore, consider Exhibit A from a dissertation submitted to a college that is one trailer-step-up from a diploma mill. All caps on words are our emphasis on the extremely disturbing similarities between the dissertation and the source material. > < denotes substituted words.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
> > > > > > “INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, which >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “
> > > > > How is that plagiarism when he cited the source -- "Tocqueville (1956)."?
> > > > > > We think that the school should retroactively reject the dissertation and withdraw the degree. There are other instances of plagiarism, and we see a pattern that has continued to this day.
> > > > > We think you're a clown.
> > > > His "original" statement summarizing Tocqueville was copied almost directly from its source. A direct quote would have been preferable.
> > > That is the first thing a student learns when writing a term paper in high school--don't plagiarize, write the concept in "your own words," and give your sources. We were astounded that a person who was seeking a higher degree would stoop to just substituting a word here and there and presenting the sentences as his own. However, the paper was "written" in 1992, before the Internet was available to check sources. We think that David R. Procter thought he would never get caught. Enter NancyGene.
> > > >
> > > > As NancyGene correctly pointed out, Jake's dissertation paper appears to have been little more than a modified version of its source.
> > > Copied and pasted.
> > > >
> > > > He's like the kid who copies his homework essay from the text book, making sure to change a few words here and there to make it "original."
> > > Or the one who does his book report from the description of the book on the dust jacket flap.
> > > >
> > > > No self-respecting teacher would accept something like that... yet Jake claims to have been a teacher.
> > > His college is not well respected, and we doubt that anyone looked at his "dissertation." It also has incorrect punctuation, which someone should have caught (if anyone had actually read it). An Ed.D. is not worth a "pitcher of warm spit," and the only reason to get one would be if the person wanted to be a principal or administrator at a school. The "dissertation" is essentially a glorified term paper, with no original thought. The Ed.D. degree is easy to get (a joke) and doesn't require any particular brain power. We see that the people who are admitted to the graduate program at WVU only have to have a 2.75 GPA! Wow.
> > You haven’t read many dissertations, or you wouldn’t be “astounded” at all.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr._authorship_issues
> I haven't read any dissertations... but one needn't have read any in order to determine whether plagiarism has taken place. The similarities between the text of the source material and the "original" summarization serve as proof.

I’ve read many, and helped write several. The question of plagiarism is one of prosecution vs.
persecution. You’re not a competent prosecutor by any stretch, but you do get your digs in.

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 by: Mack A. Damia - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:15 UTC

On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 09:34:32 -0800, Mack A. Damia
<drsteerforth@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 04:44:22 -0800 (PST), NancyGene
><nancygene.andjayme@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 2:50:21 AM UTC, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 7:49:51 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>> > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>>> > > Class, we know that you recall our previous discussions on plagiarism. “Don’t plagiarize. Express your own thoughts in your own words…. Note, too, that simply changing a few words here and there, or changing the order of a few words in a sentence or paragraph, is still plagiarism. Plagiarism is one of the most serious crimes in academia.” (Pechenik, 2001; p.10).
>>> > > https://ori.hhs.gov/education/products/roig_st_johns/paraphrasing%20and%20plagiarism.html
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > Therefore, consider Exhibit A from a dissertation submitted to a college that is one trailer-step-up from a diploma mill. All caps on words are our emphasis on the extremely disturbing similarities between the dissertation and the source material. > < denotes substituted words.
>>> > >
>>> > > Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.
>>> > >
>>> > > Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
>>> > > “INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, which >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “
>>> > How is that plagiarism when he cited the source -- "Tocqueville (1956)."?
>>> > > We think that the school should retroactively reject the dissertation and withdraw the degree. There are other instances of plagiarism, and we see a pattern that has continued to this day.
>>> > We think you're a clown.
>>> His "original" statement summarizing Tocqueville was copied almost directly from its source. A direct quote would have been preferable.
>>
>>That is the first thing a student learns when writing a term paper in high school--don't plagiarize, write the concept in "your own words," and give your sources. We were astounded that a person who was seeking a higher degree would stoop to just substituting a word here and there and presenting the sentences as his own. However, the paper was "written" in 1992, before the Internet was available to check sources. We think that David R. Procter thought he would never get caught. Enter NancyGene.
>>>
>>> As NancyGene correctly pointed out, Jake's dissertation paper appears to have been little more than a modified version of its source.
>>Copied and pasted.
>>>
>>> He's like the kid who copies his homework essay from the text book, making sure to change a few words here and there to make it "original."
>>Or the one who does his book report from the description of the book on the dust jacket flap.
>>>
>>> No self-respecting teacher would accept something like that... yet Jake claims to have been a teacher.
>>His college is not well respected, and we doubt that anyone looked at his "dissertation." It also has incorrect punctuation, which someone should have caught (if anyone had actually read it). An Ed.D. is not worth a "pitcher of warm spit," and the only reason to get one would be if the person wanted to be a principal or administrator at a school. The "dissertation" is essentially a glorified term paper, with no original thought. The Ed.D. degree is easy to get (a joke) and doesn't require any particular brain power. We see that the people who are admitted to the graduate program at WVU only have to have a 2.75 GPA! Wow.
>
>I was down but not quite out before I entered the program. I
>interviewed at a few universities, and WVU was the only one that
>offered me a GTA. Free tuition plus $400.00 per month for teaching
>two sections of a foundations course. I supervised three student
>teachers, too.
>
>How did you become such a nasty, spiteful person? Did your parents
>abuse you? Daddy creeping into your room at night?

Hey, NastyNancyGene, I took a battery of tests to enter the doctoral
program.

I am in the 99th percentile of GRE/MAT test takers with an IQ of 140.

WVU was glad to admit me.

Yes, I am blowing my horn. You can blow me, too.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:16 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 1:08:34 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 09:58:40 -0800 (PST), Spam-I-Am
> <hierony...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 11:53:03 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 03:23:03 -0800 (PST), Spam-I-Am
> >> <hierony...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:08:29 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 16:49:50 -0800 (PST), George Dance
> >> >> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> >> >> >> Class, we know that you recall our previous discussions on plagiarism. “Don’t plagiarize. Express your own thoughts in your own words…. Note, too, that simply changing a few words here and there, or changing the order of a few words in a sentence or paragraph, is still plagiarism. Plagiarism is one of the most serious crimes in academia.” (Pechenik, 2001; p.10).
> >> >> >> https://ori.hhs.gov/education/products/roig_st_johns/paraphrasing%20and%20plagiarism.html
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Therefore, consider Exhibit A from a dissertation submitted to a college that is one trailer-step-up from a diploma mill. All caps on words are our emphasis on the extremely disturbing similarities between the dissertation and the source material. > < denotes substituted words.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
> >> >> >> “INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, which >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “
> >> >> >
> >> >> >How is that plagiarism when he cited the source -- "Tocqueville (1956)."?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> We think that the school should retroactively reject the dissertation and withdraw the degree. There are other instances of plagiarism, and we see a pattern that has continued to this day.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >We think you're a clown.
> >> >> Hard to believe that anybody would display that amount of ignorance
> >> >> for the world to see. Maybe she doesn't realize that what she writes
> >> >> is permanent and can be read by anybody.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think she is just a horrid little girl who says anything that jumps
> >> >> into her warped mind. I have never experienced anybody who displays
> >> >> such abject stupidity.
> >> >
> >> >There is no such thing as “abject stupidity”.
> >> Oh yeah?
> >>
> >> Best to do your homework before you open your yap.
> >>
> >> https://thesaurus.plus/related/abject_stupidity/idiocy
> >>
> >> https://ludwig.guru/s/abject+stupidity
> >>
> >> https://www.salon.com/2007/10/29/right_wing_blogs/
> >>
> >> in the sense of idiocy
> >> Definition
> >> utter stupidity
> >> the idiocy of subsidies for activities which damage the environment
> >>
> >> Synonyms:
> >> foolishness,insanity,lunacy,tomfoolery,inanity,imbecility,senselessness,fatuity,
> >> "abject stupidity", asininity, fatuousness
> >>
> >> https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english-thesaurus/stupidity
> >>
> >> Looks like you lose another one, bunky.
> >
> >“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.”
> “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity."
> - Albert Einstein

Thusly, there can be no such thing as “abject stupidity”. Stupid can always get stupider.

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 by: Mack A. Damia - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:26 UTC

On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 10:05:47 -0800 (PST), Spam-I-Am
<hieronymous707@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 9:28:42 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 7:35:56 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 7:21:05 AM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>> > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:34:04 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>> > > > > Class, we know that you recall our previous discussions on plagiarism. “Don’t plagiarize. Express your own thoughts in your own words…. Note, too, that simply changing a few words here and there, or changing the order of a few words in a sentence or paragraph, is still plagiarism. Plagiarism is one of the most serious crimes in academia.” (Pechenik, 2001; p.10).
>> > > > > https://ori.hhs.gov/education/products/roig_st_johns/paraphrasing%20and%20plagiarism.html
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Therefore, consider Exhibit A from a dissertation submitted to a college that is one trailer-step-up from a diploma mill. All caps on words are our emphasis on the extremely disturbing similarities between the dissertation and the source material. > < denotes substituted words.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
>> > > > > “INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, which >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “
>> > > > >
>> > > > > We think that the school should retroactively reject the dissertation and withdraw the degree. There are other instances of plagiarism, and we see a pattern that has continued to this day.
>> > > > BURNED!!!
>> > > Yes, David R. Procter is a proven plagiarist. There are more examples.
>> > Who’s afraid of a “proven plagiarist”? David R. Procter is an emotionally
>> > unstable, but highly trained government assassin. Be afraid, be very afraid.
>> To date, I have seen 4 photos of D.R. Procter -- 2 dating from several years ago, where he appears relatively robust for a man of his advanced years... and two more recent ones where he appears to be a shell of his former self. At this point, I doubt that he could lift a seven pound military rifle, much less actually use one.
>
>I wouldn’t underestimate his vituperation if I were you.

6 ft tall, 200 pounds. Muscular. I work out with weights several
times a week. I have a mini-gym in my front room - exercise bicycle,
exercise mat, and a motorized treadmill walker.

At almost 76 years old; I am in damn good shape.

On the other hand, we have NastyNancyGoon who is a hideous old hag.

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 by: Mack A. Damia - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:31 UTC

On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 10:13:53 -0800 (PST), Spam-I-Am
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>I’ve read many, and helped write several. The question of plagiarism is one of prosecution vs.
>persecution. You’re not a competent prosecutor by any stretch, but you do get your digs in.

Yes, indeed. She continues to dig the hole she is in even deeper.

I phoned a couple of attorneys who deal in "defamation". After
explaining the issues, one of them asked me if she has any mental
infirmaties! That could be a defense.

Does she? (Asking for an attorney) Consultations scheduled.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:34 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 1:26:15 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 10:05:47 -0800 (PST), Spam-I-Am
> <hierony...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 9:28:42 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 7:35:56 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 7:21:05 AM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> >> > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:34:04 AM UTC, michaelmalef....@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> >> > > > > Class, we know that you recall our previous discussions on plagiarism. “Don’t plagiarize. Express your own thoughts in your own words…. Note, too, that simply changing a few words here and there, or changing the order of a few words in a sentence or paragraph, is still plagiarism. Plagiarism is one of the most serious crimes in academia..” (Pechenik, 2001; p.10).
> >> > > > > https://ori.hhs.gov/education/products/roig_st_johns/paraphrasing%20and%20plagiarism.html
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Therefore, consider Exhibit A from a dissertation submitted to a college that is one trailer-step-up from a diploma mill. All caps on words are our emphasis on the extremely disturbing similarities between the dissertation and the source material. > < denotes substituted words.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
> >> > > > > “INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, which >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > We think that the school should retroactively reject the dissertation and withdraw the degree. There are other instances of plagiarism, and we see a pattern that has continued to this day.
> >> > > > BURNED!!!
> >> > > Yes, David R. Procter is a proven plagiarist. There are more examples.
> >> > Who’s afraid of a “proven plagiarist”? David R. Procter is an emotionally
> >> > unstable, but highly trained government assassin. Be afraid, be very afraid.
> >> To date, I have seen 4 photos of D.R. Procter -- 2 dating from several years ago, where he appears relatively robust for a man of his advanced years... and two more recent ones where he appears to be a shell of his former self. At this point, I doubt that he could lift a seven pound military rifle, much less actually use one.
> >
> >I wouldn’t underestimate his vituperation if I were you.
> 6 ft tall, 200 pounds. Muscular. I work out with weights several
> times a week. I have a mini-gym in my front room - exercise bicycle,
> exercise mat, and a motorized treadmill walker.
>
> At almost 76 years old; I am in damn good shape.
>
> On the other hand, we have NastyNancyGoon who is a hideous old hag.
>
> https://png.pngitem.com/pimgs/s/472-4720010_dnd-5e-sea-hag-hd-png-download.png

You’re a hunk, a hunk of burning love. Thank God for penicillin.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:37 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 1:31:26 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 10:13:53 -0800 (PST), Spam-I-Am
> <hierony...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I’ve read many, and helped write several. The question of plagiarism is one of prosecution vs.
> >persecution. You’re not a competent prosecutor by any stretch, but you do get your digs in.
> Yes, indeed. She continues to dig the hole she is in even deeper.
>
> I phoned a couple of attorneys who deal in "defamation". After
> explaining the issues, one of them asked me if she has any mental
> infirmaties! That could be a defense.
>
> Does she? (Asking for an attorney) Consultations scheduled.

Is your TBI percussive, or penetrating?

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 by: Mack A. Damia - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:40 UTC

On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 10:16:59 -0800 (PST), Spam-I-Am
<hieronymous707@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 1:08:34 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 09:58:40 -0800 (PST), Spam-I-Am
>> <hierony...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 11:53:03 AM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 03:23:03 -0800 (PST), Spam-I-Am
>> >> <hierony...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 8:08:29 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> >> >> On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 16:49:50 -0800 (PST), George Dance
>> >> >> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
>> >> >> >> Class, we know that you recall our previous discussions on plagiarism. “Don’t plagiarize. Express your own thoughts in your own words…. Note, too, that simply changing a few words here and there, or changing the order of a few words in a sentence or paragraph, is still plagiarism. Plagiarism is one of the most serious crimes in academia.” (Pechenik, 2001; p.10).
>> >> >> >> https://ori.hhs.gov/education/products/roig_st_johns/paraphrasing%20and%20plagiarism.html
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Therefore, consider Exhibit A from a dissertation submitted to a college that is one trailer-step-up from a diploma mill. All caps on words are our emphasis on the extremely disturbing similarities between the dissertation and the source material. > < denotes substituted words.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
>> >> >> >> “INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, which >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >How is that plagiarism when he cited the source -- "Tocqueville (1956)."?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> We think that the school should retroactively reject the dissertation and withdraw the degree. There are other instances of plagiarism, and we see a pattern that has continued to this day.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >We think you're a clown.
>> >> >> Hard to believe that anybody would display that amount of ignorance
>> >> >> for the world to see. Maybe she doesn't realize that what she writes
>> >> >> is permanent and can be read by anybody.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think she is just a horrid little girl who says anything that jumps
>> >> >> into her warped mind. I have never experienced anybody who displays
>> >> >> such abject stupidity.
>> >> >
>> >> >There is no such thing as “abject stupidity”.
>> >> Oh yeah?
>> >>
>> >> Best to do your homework before you open your yap.
>> >>
>> >> https://thesaurus.plus/related/abject_stupidity/idiocy
>> >>
>> >> https://ludwig.guru/s/abject+stupidity
>> >>
>> >> https://www.salon.com/2007/10/29/right_wing_blogs/
>> >>
>> >> in the sense of idiocy
>> >> Definition
>> >> utter stupidity
>> >> the idiocy of subsidies for activities which damage the environment
>> >>
>> >> Synonyms:
>> >> foolishness,insanity,lunacy,tomfoolery,inanity,imbecility,senselessness,fatuity,
>> >> "abject stupidity", asininity, fatuousness
>> >>
>> >> https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english-thesaurus/stupidity
>> >>
>> >> Looks like you lose another one, bunky.
>> >
>> >“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.”
>> “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity."
>> - Albert Einstein
>
>Thusly, there can be no such thing as “abject stupidity”. Stupid can always get stupider.

Oh, cut the nonsense. You just want to prevail, but you don't
understand the context.

ab·ject

adjective
1.
(of something bad) experienced or present to the maximum degree.
"his letter plunged her into abject misery"

(If you can have "abject misery", you can have "abject stupidity".)

2.
(of a person or their behavior) completely without pride or dignity;
self-abasing.
"an abject apology"

(OED)

You can have "stupidity" to a maximum degree depending upon who is
being discussed.

Also, "without pride or dignity"? THAT is NastyNancyGoon.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:41 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:34:36 PM UTC-5, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 04:44:22 -0800 (PST), NancyGene
> <nancygene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 2:50:21 AM UTC, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 7:49:51 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> >> > > Class, we know that you recall our previous discussions on plagiarism. “Don’t plagiarize. Express your own thoughts in your own words…. Note, too, that simply changing a few words here and there, or changing the order of a few words in a sentence or paragraph, is still plagiarism. Plagiarism is one of the most serious crimes in academia.” (Pechenik, 2001; p.10).
> >> > > https://ori.hhs.gov/education/products/roig_st_johns/paraphrasing%20and%20plagiarism.html
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > Therefore, consider Exhibit A from a dissertation submitted to a college that is one trailer-step-up from a diploma mill. All caps on words are our emphasis on the extremely disturbing similarities between the dissertation and the source material. > < denotes substituted words.
> >> > >
> >> > > Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.
> >> > >
> >> > > Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
> >> > > “INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, which >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “
> >> > How is that plagiarism when he cited the source -- "Tocqueville (1956)."?
> >> > > We think that the school should retroactively reject the dissertation and withdraw the degree. There are other instances of plagiarism, and we see a pattern that has continued to this day.
> >> > We think you're a clown.
> >> His "original" statement summarizing Tocqueville was copied almost directly from its source. A direct quote would have been preferable.
> >
> >That is the first thing a student learns when writing a term paper in high school--don't plagiarize, write the concept in "your own words," and give your sources. We were astounded that a person who was seeking a higher degree would stoop to just substituting a word here and there and presenting the sentences as his own. However, the paper was "written" in 1992, before the Internet was available to check sources. We think that David R. Procter thought he would never get caught. Enter NancyGene.
> >>
> >> As NancyGene correctly pointed out, Jake's dissertation paper appears to have been little more than a modified version of its source.
> >Copied and pasted.
> >>
> >> He's like the kid who copies his homework essay from the text book, making sure to change a few words here and there to make it "original."
> >Or the one who does his book report from the description of the book on the dust jacket flap.
> >>
> >> No self-respecting teacher would accept something like that... yet Jake claims to have been a teacher.
> >His college is not well respected, and we doubt that anyone looked at his "dissertation." It also has incorrect punctuation, which someone should have caught (if anyone had actually read it). An Ed.D. is not worth a "pitcher of warm spit," and the only reason to get one would be if the person wanted to be a principal or administrator at a school. The "dissertation" is essentially a glorified term paper, with no original thought. The Ed.D. degree is easy to get (a joke) and doesn't require any particular brain power. We see that the people who are admitted to the graduate program at WVU only have to have a 2.75 GPA! Wow.
> I was down but not quite out before I entered the program. I
> interviewed at a few universities, and WVU was the only one that
> offered me a GTA. Free tuition plus $400.00 per month for teaching
> two sections of a foundations course. I supervised three student
> teachers, too.
>
> How did you become such a nasty, spiteful person? Did your parents
> abuse you? Daddy creeping into your room at night?

Some of us have an innate dislike for liars.

Liars who boast about the supposed achievements, make for wonderful targets.... especially when their claims can be proven false with a modicum of research.

If you want to get along with the actual writers in this group, I suggest that you drop the b.s., ASAP.

No one cares about your oh-so-valuable possessions, your inspiring achievements, your enviable career, your brushes with greatness, etc.

Stick to discussing Hemingway poems, and poetic passages from books, and you'll be treated like an asset to this group.

Or, you can continue to act like an ass, and you'll get treated like one as a result.

Your choice.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:45 UTC

On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 1:05:49 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 9:28:42 AM UTC-5, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 7:35:56 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 7:21:05 AM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:34:04 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > > Class, we know that you recall our previous discussions on plagiarism. “Don’t plagiarize. Express your own thoughts in your own words…. Note, too, that simply changing a few words here and there, or changing the order of a few words in a sentence or paragraph, is still plagiarism. Plagiarism is one of the most serious crimes in academia.” (Pechenik, 2001; p.10).
> > > > > > https://ori.hhs.gov/education/products/roig_st_johns/paraphrasing%20and%20plagiarism.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Therefore, consider Exhibit A from a dissertation submitted to a college that is one trailer-step-up from a diploma mill. All caps on words are our emphasis on the extremely disturbing similarities between the dissertation and the source material. > < denotes substituted words.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Procter, David Richard, "School-based community service: A descriptive analysis of four high school programs." (1992), p. 5. “In his memoirs, Tocqueville (1956) […] Furthermore, the Frenchman identified the seeds of “alienation” in the form of “INDIVIDUALISM” which, he said, IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING WHICH >inclines< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >ties< with the community AND DRAW APART WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THUS FORMING A >small<, intimate CIRCLE AND LEAVIing the rest of SOCIETY TO ITSELF.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alexis de Tocqueville, “Democracy in America” - “Of Individualism in Democratic Countries,” Chapter II. https://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/DETOC/ch2_02.htm:
> > > > > > “INDIVIDUALISM IS A MATURE AND CALM FEELING, which >disposes< EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEVER >himself< from the mass of his fellows and to DRAW APART WITH >his< FAMILY AND >his< FRIENDS, so that after he has THUS FORMed A >little< CIRCLE of his own, he willingly LEAVES SOCIETY at large TO ITSELF. “
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We think that the school should retroactively reject the dissertation and withdraw the degree. There are other instances of plagiarism, and we see a pattern that has continued to this day.
> > > > > BURNED!!!
> > > > Yes, David R. Procter is a proven plagiarist. There are more examples.
> > > Who’s afraid of a “proven plagiarist”? David R. Procter is an emotionally
> > > unstable, but highly trained government assassin. Be afraid, be very afraid.
> > To date, I have seen 4 photos of D.R. Procter -- 2 dating from several years ago, where he appears relatively robust for a man of his advanced years... and two more recent ones where he appears to be a shell of his former self. At this point, I doubt that he could lift a seven pound military rifle, much less actually use one.
> I wouldn’t underestimate his vituperation if I were you.

You're forgetting that I was trained by the military as well. I wouldn't call myself an assassin, but I know how to sink his battleship.


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