On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 1:12:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 9:53:02 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > >> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> > >
> > > Good morning Jordy, again, well put.
> > >
> >
> > hola Will, thank you
> Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.

Oh yeah, i almost forgot my edits from a week ago-- oh woe you whippin' proud boys, I'm being neglectful in my so called obsession with you!

You're definitely not a poet or writer and seeing what satisfies you, shows that you're easy to please...
Your title would be catchier as: "Songs*, stories and poems are not necessarily** autobiographical"
also I would:
* make 'Song' plural since the rest of your subject list are plurals
** change 'necessarilly' to 'necessarily'

Now 'song' could be used if change the form of the other subjects to:
"Song, Story and Poetry are not necessarily** autobiographical"
Still I would also:
** change 'necessarilly' to 'necessarily'

"All you zombies hide your faces,
All you people in the street,
All you sittin' in high places,
The rain's gonna fall on you"
-- 'All You Zombies' ~~The Hooters

"We're living, living like we're dead
You're living, living like there's sickness in your head
I'm only guilty of surviving
You're all guilty of playing both sides and
Where there are zombies there are rats
And where I'm from rats get the axe"
-- 'Red Queen' ~~KING 810

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 10:52:45 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> I'll let George Dance speak for himself, just as he doesn't need you putting words in his mouth either, Pendragon.

> I quoted his statements, Donkey.

> What's scrawny, white and red all over?

> George's butt.

So, you call that the "high road"?

On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 1:12:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 9:53:02 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > >> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> > >
> > > Good morning Jordy, again, well put.
> > >
> >
> > hola Will, thank you
> Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.
>
> :)
bonjour, Will

On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 4:10:51 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 1:12:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 9:53:02 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > >> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> > > >
> > > > Good morning Jordy, again, well put.
> > > >
> > >
> > > hola Will, thank you
> > Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.
> >
> > :)
> bonjour, Will
You're embarrassing your nephew, Issac.

On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 4:30:53 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 4:10:51 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 1:12:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 9:53:02 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > >> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> > > > >
> > > > > Good morning Jordy, again, well put.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > hola Will, thank you
> > > Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.
> > >
> > > :)
> > bonjour, Will
> You're embarrassing your nephew, Issac.

Yep. But I believe he's given leeway by his family-- that is if they even know what he's doing. I know I would be pissed if a family member was bringing another member's name in an adverse environment only to be ridiculed....
You see, I have come to the conclusion after watching Mr. Chase's poor juvenile social skills and inability to learn from experience (and why I don't come down on him as harshly), that he perhaps is "special" (as in on the spectrum) and that would explain so much about him and what he does.

jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 1:12:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 9:53:02 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > >> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
>> > >
>> > > Good morning Jordy, again, well put.
>> > >
>> >
>> > hola Will, thank you
>> Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.
>>
>
> bonjour, Will

Hello again, Jordy.

🙂

On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:30:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 1:12:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 9:53:02 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > >> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> >> > >
> >> > > Good morning Jordy, again, well put.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > hola Will, thank you
> >> Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.
> >>
> >
> > bonjour, Will
>
> Hello again, Jordy.
>
> 🙂
https://youtu.be/Q5IS6XVx69k

On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:30:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 1:12:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 9:53:02 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > >> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> >> > >
> >> > > Good morning Jordy, again, well put.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > hola Will, thank you
> >> Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.
> >>
> >
> > bonjour, Will
>
> Hello again, Jordy.
>
> 🙂
Shalom, Will

On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:42:20 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:30:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 1:12:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 9:53:02 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> > On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > >> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Good morning Jordy, again, well put.
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > hola Will, thank you
> > >> Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.
> > >>
> > >
> > > bonjour, Will
> >
> > Hello again, Jordy.
> >
> > 🙂
> Shalom, Will
https://youtu.be/Q5IS6XVx69k

On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:50:58 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:42:20 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:30:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 1:12:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 9:53:02 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> > On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> > > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Good morning Jordy, again, well put.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > hola Will, thank you
> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today..
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > bonjour, Will
> > >
> > > Hello again, Jordy.
> > >
> > > 🙂
> > Shalom, Will
> https://youtu.be/Q5IS6XVx69k

How "cute" this greetings loop from the "real poetry" troupe -- but fear not my rebuke for I must puke...
But I must ask, is all these hellos some kinda "real poetry" that us unreal poets are not privy to? And it isn't just we're all mad here, apparently we're all confused too!
"I don't wake at all
I just stare at the ceiling, at the floor
And stare at the wall
Wish this earth would disappear beneath me
Wish I would fall
My body straight to hell, my bones would break
And I would crawl"
-- 'Comin' Back to You' ~~KING 810

Ash Wurthing wrote:

> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:50:58 PM UTC-5, Robert Burrows wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:42:20 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:30:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 1:12:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > >> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 9:53:02 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > >> > On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > >> > > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > > >> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > Good morning Jordy, again, well put.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > hola Will, thank you
>> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today..
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > > bonjour, Will
>> > >
>> > > Hello again, Jordy.
>> > >
>> > > 🙂
>> > Shalom, Will
>> https://youtu.be/Q5IS6XVx69k

>
> is all these hellos some kinda "real poetry"

No, they're just hellos, feel free to skip and ignore.

🙂

Zod wrote:

> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:00:05 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

> Steely Dan is one of the best examples....

Yes, a perfect example.

Jordy C. wrote:

>
> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> autobiographical.

Again, agreed, Jordy.

Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:

"Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."

HTH and HAND.

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:05:14 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Jordy C. wrote:
>
> >
> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> > autobiographical.
> Again, agreed, Jordy.
>
> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
>
> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
>
> HTH and HAND.
thank you, Will

Jordy C wrote:

> On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:05:14 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Jordy C. wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
>> > autobiographical.
>> Again, agreed, Jordy.
>>
>> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
>>
>> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
>>
>> HTH and HAND.
> thank you, Will

Good afternoon, Jordy.

🙂

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:55:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Jordy C wrote:
>
> > On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:05:14 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Jordy C. wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> >> > autobiographical.
> >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> >>
> >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> >>
> >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> >>
> >> HTH and HAND.
> > thank you, Will
> Good afternoon, Jordy.
>
> 🙂
bonjour, Will

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 7:40:27 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:55:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:05:14 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Jordy C. wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> > >> > autobiographical.
> > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > >>
> > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > >>
> > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > >>
> > >> HTH and HAND.
> > > thank you, Will
> > Good afternoon, Jordy.
> >
>
> bonjour, Will

Hello again my friend

🙂

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:45:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 7:40:27 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:55:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:05:14 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Jordy C. wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> > > >> > autobiographical.
> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > >>
> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > >>
> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > >>
> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> > > > thank you, Will
> > > Good afternoon, Jordy.
> > >
> >
> > bonjour, Will
> Hello again my friend

Isaac corked up Jordy Chase's bunghole,
Chocolate cha-cha'd til morning was nigh;
Gave his nephew a sloppy Picaso
He's a fart knockin', mud packin' guy.

On Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 3:54:23 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:00:05 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical.
>
> > As Karla Rogers often reminded us:
>
> > "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem.."
> Ms. Karla was a very smart young lady....

Karla Rogers knows her poetry, yes.

🙂

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:45:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 7:40:27 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:55:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 5:05:14 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Jordy C. wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> > > >> > autobiographical.
> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > >>
> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > >>
> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > >>
> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> > > > thank you, Will
> > > Good afternoon, Jordy.
> > >
> >
> > bonjour, Will
> Hello again my friend
>
> 🙂
Shalom, Will

Jordy C wrote:

> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:45:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Jordy C wrote:
>
>> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
>> > > >> > autobiographical.
>
>> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
>> > > >>
>> > > >> HTH and HAND.
>> > > > thank you, Will
>
>> Hello again my friend
>
> Shalom, Will

Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.

:)

On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 6:05:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Jordy C wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:45:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >
> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
> >
> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> >> > > > thank you, Will
> >
> >> Hello again my friend
> >
> > Shalom, Will
> Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.
>
> :)
bonjour, Will

Jordy C wrote:

> On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 6:05:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Jordy C wrote:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:45:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Jordy C wrote:
>> >
>> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
>> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
>> >
>> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
>> >> > > > thank you, Will
>> >
>> >> Hello again my friend
>> >
>> > Shalom, Will
>> Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.
>
> bonjour, Will

Hello again my friend

🙂

On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Jordy C wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 6:05:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:45:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
> >> >
> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
> >> >
> >> >> Hello again my friend
> >> >
> >> > Shalom, Will
> >> Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.
> >
> > bonjour, Will
>
> Hello again my friend
>
> 🙂
hola Will

Jordy C wrote:

> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Jordy C wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 6:05:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Jordy C wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:45:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
>> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
>> >> >
>> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
>> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
>> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
>> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
>> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hello again my friend
>> >> >
>> >> > Shalom, Will
>> >> Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.
>> >
>> > bonjour, Will
>>
>> Hello again my friend
>>
>
> hola Will

Good afternoon, Jordy.

🙂