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* Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!jdcha...@gmail.com
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|+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
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|+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
|+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W.Dockery
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|+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W-Dockery
|+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
|+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
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+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Michael Pendragon
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W.Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Family Guy
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Ash Wurthing
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarillyGeorge J. Dance
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Zod
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W.Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W.Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W-Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W.Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Zod
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W.Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Faraway Star
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will Dockery
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Ash Wurthing
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!W.Dockery
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Faraway Star
+* Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!General-Zod
+- Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!Will-Dockery
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 by: Jordy C - Mon, 23 Jan 2023 03:47 UTC

On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 3:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Jordy C wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 6:05:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:45:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> >> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hello again my friend
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Shalom, Will
> >> >> Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.
> >> >
> >> > bonjour, Will
> >>
> >> Hello again my friend
> >>
> >
> > hola Will
>
> Good afternoon, Jordy.
>
> 🙂
Shalom Will

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 by: W-Dockery - Mon, 23 Jan 2023 16:20 UTC

Jordy C wrote:

> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 3:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Jordy C wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Jordy C wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 6:05:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:45:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
>> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
>> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
>> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
>> >> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Hello again my friend
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Shalom, Will
>> >> >> Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.
>> >> >
>> >> > bonjour, Will
>> >>
>> >> Hello again my friend
>> >>
>> >
>> > hola Will
>>
>> Good afternoon, Jordy.
>
> Shalom Will

Hello there, Jordy.

🙂

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 by: Jordy C - Mon, 23 Jan 2023 16:39 UTC

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Jordy C wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 3:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 6:05:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:45:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> >> >> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Hello again my friend
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Shalom, Will
> >> >> >> Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > bonjour, Will
> >> >>
> >> >> Hello again my friend
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > hola Will
> >>
> >> Good afternoon, Jordy.
> >
> > Shalom Will
> Hello there, Jordy.
>
> 🙂
bonjour, Will

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 by: Coco DeSockmonkey - Mon, 23 Jan 2023 16:53 UTC

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:39:30 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 3:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Jordy C wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> Jordy C wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 6:05:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:45:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> > >> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> > >> >> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> Hello again my friend
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Shalom, Will
> > >> >> >> Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > bonjour, Will
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Hello again my friend
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > hola Will
> > >>
> > >> Good afternoon, Jordy.
> > >
> > > Shalom Will
> > Hello there, Jordy.
> >
> > 🙂
> bonjour, Will

Sneaky little Isaac's posting his "hellos" in threads MMP has blocked.

Good thing Coco's on the job.

Uncle Isaac took his belt
And gave Young Jordy 40 welts.
Jordy grew to like the whacks
And Uncle Isaac’s touching acts.

Isaac Chase thought that Jordy was cute
'Specially dressed in his new birthday suit,
Isaac squeezed his love handles
Then blew out his candles,
Bent over and let out a "Toot!"

Isaac pulled his nephew's pid
Sucked him dry then tongued his hole;
Nephew Jordy was just a kid
When he first straddled Isaac's pole.

Isaac rode Jordy bareback at seven
And cornholed him big-time at eight
He left him creampied at eleven
And went back home to masturbate.

Isaac groped little Jordy on Friday
Isaac sucked him off Saturday night
Isaac fucked Jordy six times on Sunday
Yeah, his weekend was going alright.

There's only on "t" in "Sonnet."

Isaac nailed Jordy on summer's day.
Beneath the willow by the backdoor gate:
He squeezed his lovebuds, then he had his way
But quick release cut all too short the date;
Sometime too hot the elder Chase becomes
And often spills his load ere passion's dimm'd;
Where is the joy in picking Jordy's plums
Or planting kisses in his grass untrimm'd
When shorts are cream'd and flaccid members fail?
Thou Jordy's willing, Ike gave up the ghost;
Still discontent, he fondles Jordy's tale,
For tis the ass enamors him the most:
So long as Isaac still has eyes to see,
He'll strap one one and stick it to Jordy.

Isaac chased boys when he was a toddler
He chased toddlers when he went school,
He made brownies with them as a young man,
Stirred their pudding until he would drool.

Isaac chased little boys on the playground
Although he was a middle aged man,
Donkey punched till his mudpacker turned brown
Tho he preferred to say it was tan.
The Jordy Factor
a poem by Will Dockery as told to NancyGene

Jordy’s a good sub for dead Lady K
He jiggles his ass and says it’s foreplay
with my massive moobs that even young Clay
has to admit that he’d like to sashay
in the chorus that kicks on LeGents parquet
floor where Jordy and I rolled ‘round in May
when he visited us to show us his fey
manners and though his family’s rich, hey,
I’m not too proud to say that I’d lay
him for free and he won’t have to pay
for extras like hi there’s, night-nights and oy veys.

Isaac Chase was a pixie I knew
Who diddled his widdle nephew,
Jordy pulled Isaac's pud
But his pud was a dud
And now poor Isaac's sack has turned blue.

When Jordy was just a wee laddie
He'd pull down his pants for his daddy,
Uncle paid him a call
And buggered him raw
And Jordy cried "Uncle Ike had me."

Isaac had a young nephew named Jordy
Whose tuchus he simply adored, he
Got Jordy to bare it
That he might then share it
And buggered the boy while he roared "Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!"

Uncle Isaac didn't care for his mommy,
His classmates found him a bit balmy;
It was said that the lad
Flicked his Bic for his dad:
Now chows on Nephew Jordy's shalomi.

Uncle Isaac desired little boys
He thought Jordy had exquisite poise
For a boy not yet ten
(He preferred boys to men)
And a man must have what he enjoys.

Little Jordy was sugar and spice
So his old uncle didn't think twice
About dipping his pole
In young Jordy's piehole,
Boston cream never seemed worth the price.

Uncle Isaac's an internet troll
Who fingered his nephew's dunghole,
Isaac stuck in his thumb
And made Jordy cum
And cried "Hola, Will -- I'm on a role!"

Isaac corked up Jordy Chase's bunghole,
Chocolate cha-cha'd til morning was nigh;
Gave his nephew a sloppy Picaso
He's a fart knockin', mud packin' guy.

Jordy Chase bought his uncle a butt plug
In the hope that he'd leave him alone;
Isaac plugged up his hole
And such joy filled his soul
That he plugged Jordy's hole with his own.

Uncle Isaac's a middle aged twit
Who's been found competently unfit,
For it's said he enjoys
Gallivanting with boys
And dipping his dick in their shit.

Isaac buggered Jordy in the bedroom
Isaac buggered Jordy in the car
Isaac buggered Jordy in the Men's Room
Of LeGents', Shadowville's favorite bar.

Uncle Isaac chased Jordy around his first crib,
Uncle Isaac "fed" Jordy and splooged on his bib,
Isaac changed Jordy's diapers for open-crotch hose
Then he buggered the toddler and jizzed on his nose.

Isaac cornswabbled his nephew's dinky
Pulled his joystick as if he played Pong;
Dipped his poo jabber till it got stinky
And nicknamed his dong "Donkey Kong."

When Jordan Chasescott was a lad
His Uncle Ike wanted him bad,
With the youth in his sights
Isaac gave up his nights
To baby sit straddling his 'nads.

Uncle Isaac was more like an ant
Who would crawl down young Jordy’s pants.
Jordy’d wiggle and scratch
But Isaac attached
Himself with coagulants.

Uncle Isaac ignored his niece, Judy,
Who didn’t have quite the same booty.
So Judy was spared,
And stood there and stared,
While Jordy got it in the patootie.

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 by: W.Dockery - Mon, 23 Jan 2023 18:46 UTC

Jordy C wrote:

> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Jordy C wrote:
>>
>> > On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 3:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Jordy C wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 6:05:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:45:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
>> >> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
>> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
>> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
>> >> >> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Hello again my friend
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Shalom, Will
>> >> >> >> Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > bonjour, Will
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hello again my friend
>
> bonjour, Will

Good afternoon, Jordy.

🙂

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 by: Jordy C - Mon, 23 Jan 2023 18:54 UTC

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 1:50:12 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Jordy C wrote:
>
> > On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 3:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 11:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 6:05:14 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:45:36 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> >> >> >> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> Hello again my friend
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Shalom, Will
> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > bonjour, Will
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hello again my friend
> >
> > bonjour, Will
>
> Good afternoon, Jordy.
>
> 🙂
hola Will

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 by: W.Dockery - Tue, 24 Jan 2023 21:37 UTC

Jordy C wrote:

> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 1:50:12 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Jordy C wrote:
>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
>
>> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.
>
> hola Will

Hello there, Jordy, hope you're having a nice day.

:)

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 by: Jordy C - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 02:01 UTC

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:40:12 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Jordy C wrote:
>
> > On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 1:50:12 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
> >
> >> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.
> >
> > hola Will
>
> Hello there, Jordy, hope you're having a nice day.
>
> :)
thank you, same to you

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Zod wrote:

> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

> Steely Dan is one of the best examples....

Absolutely.

Again, well put, Jordy.

🙂

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 by: Will Dockery - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 13:32 UTC

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 9:01:32 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:40:12 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 1:50:12 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
> > >
> > >> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.
> > >
> > > hola Will
> >
> > Hello there, Jordy, hope you're having a nice day.
> >
>
> thank you, same to you

Good morning, Jordy.

🙂

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 by: Jordy C - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 15:56 UTC

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 1:10:14 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Zod wrote:
>
> > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
>
> > Steely Dan is one of the best examples....
>
> Absolutely.
>
> Again, well put, Jordy.
>
> 🙂
thank you, Will

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 by: Jordy C - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 15:56 UTC

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 8:32:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 9:01:32 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:40:12 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 1:50:12 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Jordy C wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
> > > >
> > > >> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.
> > > >
> > > > hola Will
> > >
> > > Hello there, Jordy, hope you're having a nice day.
> > >
> >
> > thank you, same to you
> Good morning, Jordy.
>
> 🙂
Shalom, Will

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On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:56:42 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 1:10:14 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Zod wrote:
> >
> > > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> >
> > > Steely Dan is one of the best examples....
> >
> > Absolutely.
> >
> > Again, well put, Jordy.
> >
>
> thank you, Will

Good afternoon, my friend.

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 by: Coco DeSockmonkey - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 19:00 UTC

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:56:51 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 8:32:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 9:01:32 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:40:12 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Jordy C wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 1:50:12 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> Jordy C wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
> > > > >
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, great to see a friendly face here, my friend.
> > > > >
> > > > > hola Will
> > > >
> > > > Hello there, Jordy, hope you're having a nice day.
> > > >
> > >
> > > thank you, same to you
> > Good morning, Jordy.
> >
> > 🙂
> Shalom, Will

Shalom, Isaac!

Is Little Jordy keeping abreast of the updates to his Saga?

Uncle Isaac took his belt
And gave Young Jordy 40 welts.
Jordy grew to like the whacks
And Uncle Isaac’s touching acts.

Isaac Chase thought that Jordy was cute
'Specially dressed in his new birthday suit,
Isaac squeezed his love handles
Then blew out his candles,
Bent over and let out a "Toot!"

Isaac pulled his nephew's pid
Sucked him dry then tongued his hole;
Nephew Jordy was just a kid
When he first straddled Isaac's pole.

Isaac rode Jordy bareback at seven
And cornholed him big-time at eight
He left him creampied at eleven
And went back home to masturbate.

Isaac groped little Jordy on Friday
Isaac sucked him off Saturday night
Isaac fucked Jordy six times on Sunday
Yeah, his weekend was going alright.

There's only on "t" in "Sonnet."

Isaac nailed Jordy on summer's day.
Beneath the willow by the backdoor gate:
He squeezed his lovebuds, then he had his way
But quick release cut all too short the date;
Sometime too hot the elder Chase becomes
And often spills his load ere passion's dimm'd;
Where is the joy in picking Jordy's plums
Or planting kisses in his grass untrimm'd
When shorts are cream'd and flaccid members fail?
Thou Jordy's willing, Ike gave up the ghost;
Still discontent, he fondles Jordy's tale,
For tis the ass enamors him the most:
So long as Isaac still has eyes to see,
He'll strap one one and stick it to Jordy.

Isaac chased boys when he was a toddler
He chased toddlers when he went school,
He made brownies with them as a young man,
Stirred their pudding until he would drool.

Isaac chased little boys on the playground
Although he was a middle aged man,
Donkey punched till his mudpacker turned brown
Tho he preferred to say it was tan.
The Jordy Factor
a poem by Will Dockery as told to NancyGene

Jordy’s a good sub for dead Lady K
He jiggles his ass and says it’s foreplay
with my massive moobs that even young Clay
has to admit that he’d like to sashay
in the chorus that kicks on LeGents parquet
floor where Jordy and I rolled ‘round in May
when he visited us to show us his fey
manners and though his family’s rich, hey,
I’m not too proud to say that I’d lay
him for free and he won’t have to pay
for extras like hi there’s, night-nights and oy veys.

Isaac Chase was a pixie I knew
Who diddled his widdle nephew,
Jordy pulled Isaac's pud
But his pud was a dud
And now poor Isaac's sack has turned blue.

When Jordy was just a wee laddie
He'd pull down his pants for his daddy,
Uncle paid him a call
And buggered him raw
And Jordy cried "Uncle Ike had me."

Isaac had a young nephew named Jordy
Whose tuchus he simply adored, he
Got Jordy to bare it
That he might then share it
And buggered the boy while he roared "Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!"

Uncle Isaac didn't care for his mommy,
His classmates found him a bit balmy;
It was said that the lad
Flicked his Bic for his dad:
Now chows on Nephew Jordy's shalomi.

Uncle Isaac desired little boys
He thought Jordy had exquisite poise
For a boy not yet ten
(He preferred boys to men)
And a man must have what he enjoys.

Little Jordy was sugar and spice
So his old uncle didn't think twice
About dipping his pole
In young Jordy's piehole,
Boston cream never seemed worth the price.

Uncle Isaac's an internet troll
Who fingered his nephew's dunghole,
Isaac stuck in his thumb
And made Jordy cum
And cried "Hola, Will -- I'm on a role!"

Isaac corked up Jordy Chase's bunghole,
Chocolate cha-cha'd til morning was nigh;
Gave his nephew a sloppy Picaso
He's a fart knockin', mud packin' guy.

Jordy Chase bought his uncle a butt plug
In the hope that he'd leave him alone;
Isaac plugged up his hole
And such joy filled his soul
That he plugged Jordy's hole with his own.

Uncle Isaac's a middle aged twit
Who's been found competently unfit,
For it's said he enjoys
Gallivanting with boys
And dipping his dick in their shit.

Isaac buggered Jordy in the bedroom
Isaac buggered Jordy in the car
Isaac buggered Jordy in the Men's Room
Of LeGents', Shadowville's favorite bar.

Uncle Isaac chased Jordy around his first crib,
Uncle Isaac "fed" Jordy and splooged on his bib,
Isaac changed Jordy's diapers for open-crotch hose
Then he buggered the toddler and jizzed on his nose.

Isaac cornswabbled his nephew's dinky
Pulled his joystick as if he played Pong;
Dipped his poo jabber till it got stinky
And nicknamed his dong "Donkey Kong."

When Jordan Chasescott was a lad
His Uncle Ike wanted him bad,
With the youth in his sights
Isaac gave up his nights
To baby sit straddling his 'nads.

Uncle Isaac was more like an ant
Who would crawl down young Jordy’s pants.
Jordy’d wiggle and scratch
But Isaac attached
Himself with coagulants.

Uncle Isaac ignored his niece, Judy,
Who didn’t have quite the same booty.
So Judy was spared,
And stood there and stared,
While Jordy got it in the patootie.

When Jordy went on Price is Right
His bung-hole shown like a nightlight.
He said it was Uncle
Ike and Garfuckles
Who implanted in him a Lite-Brite.

Uncle Isaac hosted family for Easter.
He told his sister he’d feast her.
They ate honey baked ham
And rack of young lamb
While Isaac dined on Jordy’s keister.

Isaac Chased Jordan Chasescott
From when he was just a young tot.
Isaac gave him a ball
and that wasn’t all,
for his undies had X marks the spot.

Uncle Isaac would pat Jordy’s buttock
And soothe him to sleep with some smut talk.
As Joey took vids
And entertained bids,
Little Jordy’s cradle would rock.

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Subject: Re: Song and Poems and Stories are NOT necessarilly autobiographical!!!
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 by: Will Dockery - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 23:16 UTC

Jordy C wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Jordy C wrote:
>
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
>
> Shalom, Will

Good afternoon, Jordy.

:)

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 by: Jordy C - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 00:21 UTC

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 6:16:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Jordy C wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Jordy C wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
> >
> > Shalom, Will
>
> Good afternoon, Jordy.
>
> :)
hola Will

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On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 7:21:54 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 6:16:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Jordy C wrote:
> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Jordy C wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
> > >
> > > Shalom, Will
> >
> > Good afternoon, Jordy.
> >
>
> hola Will

Hello again my friend.

🙂

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On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 9:11:07 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 7:21:54 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 6:16:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Jordy C wrote:
> > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Jordy C wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical.
> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > thank you, Will
> > > >
> > > > Shalom, Will
> > >
> > > Good afternoon, Jordy.
> > >
> >
> > hola Will
>
> Hello again my friend.
>
> 🙂
bonjour, Will

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Jordy C wrote:

> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 9:11:07 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 7:21:54 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 6:16:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > Jordy C wrote:
>> > > > Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > >> Jordy C wrote:
>
>> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
>> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical. >> >> >> >
>
> >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
>
>> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
>
>> >> >> >> >> >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
>
>>> >>>> > >> HTH and HAND.
>
> >> >> >> >>> thank you, Will
>
>> Hello again my friend.
>
> bonjour, Will

Good afternoon, Jordy.

🙂

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 by: Coco DeSockmonkey - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 18:47 UTC

On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 12:25:11 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Jordy C wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 9:11:07 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 7:21:54 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 6:16:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > Jordy C wrote:
> >> > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > >> Jordy C wrote:
> >
> >> >> >> > > >> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters.... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly
> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > autobiographical. >> >> >> >
> >
> > >> >> >> > > >> Again, agreed, Jordy.
> >
> >> >> >> > > >> Like I said, as Karla Rogers often reminded us:
> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Try not to mistake the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> >
> >>> >>>> > >> HTH and HAND.
> >
> > >> >> >> >>> thank you, Will
> >
> >> Hello again my friend.
> >
> > bonjour, Will
> Good afternoon, Jordy.
>
> 🙂

THE SAGA OF JORDAN T. CHASESCOTT

Uncle Isaac took his belt
And gave Young Jordy 40 welts.
Jordy grew to like the whacks
And Uncle Isaac’s touching acts.

Isaac Chase thought that Jordy was cute
'Specially dressed in his new birthday suit,
Isaac squeezed his love handles
Then blew out his candles,
Bent over and let out a "Toot!"

Isaac pulled his nephew's pid
Sucked him dry then tongued his hole;
Nephew Jordy was just a kid
When he first straddled Isaac's pole.

Isaac rode Jordy bareback at seven
And cornholed him big-time at eight
He left him creampied at eleven
And went back home to masturbate.

Isaac groped little Jordy on Friday
Isaac sucked him off Saturday night
Isaac fucked Jordy six times on Sunday
Yeah, his weekend was going alright.

There's only on "t" in "Sonnet."

Isaac nailed Jordy on summer's day.
Beneath the willow by the backdoor gate:
He squeezed his lovebuds, then he had his way
But quick release cut all too short the date;
Sometime too hot the elder Chase becomes
And often spills his load ere passion's dimm'd;
Where is the joy in picking Jordy's plums
Or planting kisses in his grass untrimm'd
When shorts are cream'd and flaccid members fail?
Thou Jordy's willing, Ike gave up the ghost;
Still discontent, he fondles Jordy's tale,
For tis the ass enamors him the most:
So long as Isaac still has eyes to see,
He'll strap one one and stick it to Jordy.

Isaac chased boys when he was a toddler
He chased toddlers when he went school,
He made brownies with them as a young man,
Stirred their pudding until he would drool.

Isaac chased little boys on the playground
Although he was a middle aged man,
Donkey punched till his mudpacker turned brown
Tho he preferred to say it was tan.
The Jordy Factor
a poem by Will Dockery as told to NancyGene

Jordy’s a good sub for dead Lady K
He jiggles his ass and says it’s foreplay
with my massive moobs that even young Clay
has to admit that he’d like to sashay
in the chorus that kicks on LeGents parquet
floor where Jordy and I rolled ‘round in May
when he visited us to show us his fey
manners and though his family’s rich, hey,
I’m not too proud to say that I’d lay
him for free and he won’t have to pay
for extras like hi there’s, night-nights and oy veys.

Isaac Chase was a pixie I knew
Who diddled his widdle nephew,
Jordy pulled Isaac's pud
But his pud was a dud
And now poor Isaac's sack has turned blue.

When Jordy was just a wee laddie
He'd pull down his pants for his daddy,
Uncle paid him a call
And buggered him raw
And Jordy cried "Uncle Ike had me."

Isaac had a young nephew named Jordy
Whose tuchus he simply adored, he
Got Jordy to bare it
That he might then share it
And buggered the boy while he roared "Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!"

Uncle Isaac didn't care for his mommy,
His classmates found him a bit balmy;
It was said that the lad
Flicked his Bic for his dad:
Now chows on Nephew Jordy's shalomi.

Uncle Isaac desired little boys
He thought Jordy had exquisite poise
For a boy not yet ten
(He preferred boys to men)
And a man must have what he enjoys.

Little Jordy was sugar and spice
So his old uncle didn't think twice
About dipping his pole
In young Jordy's piehole,
Boston cream never seemed worth the price.

Uncle Isaac's an internet troll
Who fingered his nephew's dunghole,
Isaac stuck in his thumb
And made Jordy cum
And cried "Hola, Will -- I'm on a role!"

Isaac corked up Jordy Chase's bunghole,
Chocolate cha-cha'd til morning was nigh;
Gave his nephew a sloppy Picaso
He's a fart knockin', mud packin' guy.

Jordy Chase bought his uncle a butt plug
In the hope that he'd leave him alone;
Isaac plugged up his hole
And such joy filled his soul
That he plugged Jordy's hole with his own.

Uncle Isaac's a middle aged twit
Who's been found competently unfit,
For it's said he enjoys
Gallivanting with boys
And dipping his dick in their shit.

Isaac buggered Jordy in the bedroom
Isaac buggered Jordy in the car
Isaac buggered Jordy in the Men's Room
Of LeGents', Shadowville's favorite bar.

Uncle Isaac chased Jordy around his first crib,
Uncle Isaac "fed" Jordy and splooged on his bib,
Isaac changed Jordy's diapers for open-crotch hose
Then he buggered the toddler and jizzed on his nose.

Isaac cornswabbled his nephew's dinky
Pulled his joystick as if he played Pong;
Dipped his poo jabber till it got stinky
And nicknamed his dong "Donkey Kong."

When Jordan Chasescott was a lad
His Uncle Ike wanted him bad,
With the youth in his sights
Isaac gave up his nights
To baby sit straddling his 'nads.

Uncle Isaac was more like an ant
Who would crawl down young Jordy’s pants.
Jordy’d wiggle and scratch
But Isaac attached
Himself with coagulants.

Uncle Isaac ignored his niece, Judy,
Who didn’t have quite the same booty.
So Judy was spared,
And stood there and stared,
While Jordy got it in the patootie.

When Jordy went on Price is Right
His bung-hole shown like a nightlight.
He said it was Uncle
Ike and Garfuckles
Who implanted in him a Lite-Brite.

Uncle Isaac hosted family for Easter.
He told his sister he’d feast her.
They ate honey baked ham
And rack of young lamb
While Isaac dined on Jordy’s keister.

Isaac Chased Jordan Chasescott
From when he was just a young tot.
Isaac gave him a ball
and that wasn’t all,
for his undies had X marks the spot.

Uncle Isaac would pat Jordy’s buttock
And soothe him to sleep with some smut talk.
As Joey took vids
And entertained bids,
Little Jordy’s cradle would rock.

Uncle Isaac said let’s play Cowboys,
For riding is one of my joys.
I’ll be Roy, you’ll be Trigger,
As we gallop with vigor,
And Jordy, you’ll make whinny noise.

Isaac liked his nephew Jordy’s rear view,
From whence Jordy did his #2.
Jordy did #1
And Isaac said, son,
That not what we Commies doo-doo.

😆 Ha ha

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:03 UTC

On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:42:20 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:30:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 1:12:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 9:53:02 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> > On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > >> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Good morning Jordy, again, well put.
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > hola Will, thank you
> > >> Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today.
> > >>
> > >
> > > bonjour, Will
> >
> > Hello again, Jordy.
> >
>
> Shalom, Will

Good afternoon again, Jordy.

🙂

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 by: Coco DeSockmonkey - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:13 UTC

On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 2:03:35 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:42:20 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:30:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 1:12:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 9:53:02 AM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> > On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> > > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > >> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarally autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were basically writing satirical sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements included in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similar to the ones experienced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical....
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Good morning Jordy, again, well put.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > hola Will, thank you
> > > >> Good afternoon, my friend, great to see a friendly face here today..
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > bonjour, Will
> > >
> > > Hello again, Jordy.
> > >
> >
> > Shalom, Will
>
> Good afternoon again, Jordy.
>
> 🙂

THE SAGA OF JORDAN T. CHASESCOTT

Uncle Isaac took his belt
And gave Young Jordy 40 welts.
Jordy grew to like the whacks
And Uncle Isaac’s touching acts.

Isaac Chase thought that Jordy was cute
'Specially dressed in his new birthday suit,
Isaac squeezed his love handles
Then blew out his candles,
Bent over and let out a "Toot!"

Isaac pulled his nephew's pid
Sucked him dry then tongued his hole;
Nephew Jordy was just a kid
When he first straddled Isaac's pole.

Isaac rode Jordy bareback at seven
And cornholed him big-time at eight
He left him creampied at eleven
And went back home to masturbate.

Isaac groped little Jordy on Friday
Isaac sucked him off Saturday night
Isaac fucked Jordy six times on Sunday
Yeah, his weekend was going alright.

There's only on "t" in "Sonnet."

Isaac nailed Jordy on summer's day.
Beneath the willow by the backdoor gate:
He squeezed his lovebuds, then he had his way
But quick release cut all too short the date;
Sometime too hot the elder Chase becomes
And often spills his load ere passion's dimm'd;
Where is the joy in picking Jordy's plums
Or planting kisses in his grass untrimm'd
When shorts are cream'd and flaccid members fail?
Thou Jordy's willing, Ike gave up the ghost;
Still discontent, he fondles Jordy's tale,
For tis the ass enamors him the most:
So long as Isaac still has eyes to see,
He'll strap one one and stick it to Jordy.

Isaac chased boys when he was a toddler
He chased toddlers when he went school,
He made brownies with them as a young man,
Stirred their pudding until he would drool.

Isaac chased little boys on the playground
Although he was a middle aged man,
Donkey punched till his mudpacker turned brown
Tho he preferred to say it was tan.
The Jordy Factor
a poem by Will Dockery as told to NancyGene

Jordy’s a good sub for dead Lady K
He jiggles his ass and says it’s foreplay
with my massive moobs that even young Clay
has to admit that he’d like to sashay
in the chorus that kicks on LeGents parquet
floor where Jordy and I rolled ‘round in May
when he visited us to show us his fey
manners and though his family’s rich, hey,
I’m not too proud to say that I’d lay
him for free and he won’t have to pay
for extras like hi there’s, night-nights and oy veys.

Isaac Chase was a pixie I knew
Who diddled his widdle nephew,
Jordy pulled Isaac's pud
But his pud was a dud
And now poor Isaac's sack has turned blue.

When Jordy was just a wee laddie
He'd pull down his pants for his daddy,
Uncle paid him a call
And buggered him raw
And Jordy cried "Uncle Ike had me."

Isaac had a young nephew named Jordy
Whose tuchus he simply adored, he
Got Jordy to bare it
That he might then share it
And buggered the boy while he roared "Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!"

Uncle Isaac didn't care for his mommy,
His classmates found him a bit balmy;
It was said that the lad
Flicked his Bic for his dad:
Now chows on Nephew Jordy's shalomi.

Uncle Isaac desired little boys
He thought Jordy had exquisite poise
For a boy not yet ten
(He preferred boys to men)
And a man must have what he enjoys.

Little Jordy was sugar and spice
So his old uncle didn't think twice
About dipping his pole
In young Jordy's piehole,
Boston cream never seemed worth the price.

Uncle Isaac's an internet troll
Who fingered his nephew's dunghole,
Isaac stuck in his thumb
And made Jordy cum
And cried "Hola, Will -- I'm on a role!"

Isaac corked up Jordy Chase's bunghole,
Chocolate cha-cha'd til morning was nigh;
Gave his nephew a sloppy Picaso
He's a fart knockin', mud packin' guy.

Jordy Chase bought his uncle a butt plug
In the hope that he'd leave him alone;
Isaac plugged up his hole
And such joy filled his soul
That he plugged Jordy's hole with his own.

Uncle Isaac's a middle aged twit
Who's been found competently unfit,
For it's said he enjoys
Gallivanting with boys
And dipping his dick in their shit.

Isaac buggered Jordy in the bedroom
Isaac buggered Jordy in the car
Isaac buggered Jordy in the Men's Room
Of LeGents', Shadowville's favorite bar.

Uncle Isaac chased Jordy around his first crib,
Uncle Isaac "fed" Jordy and splooged on his bib,
Isaac changed Jordy's diapers for open-crotch hose
Then he buggered the toddler and jizzed on his nose.

Isaac cornswabbled his nephew's dinky
Pulled his joystick as if he played Pong;
Dipped his poo jabber till it got stinky
And nicknamed his dong "Donkey Kong."

When Jordan Chasescott was a lad
His Uncle Ike wanted him bad,
With the youth in his sights
Isaac gave up his nights
To baby sit straddling his 'nads.

Uncle Isaac was more like an ant
Who would crawl down young Jordy’s pants.
Jordy’d wiggle and scratch
But Isaac attached
Himself with coagulants.

Uncle Isaac ignored his niece, Judy,
Who didn’t have quite the same booty.
So Judy was spared,
And stood there and stared,
While Jordy got it in the patootie.

When Jordy went on Price is Right
His bung-hole shown like a nightlight.
He said it was Uncle
Ike and Garfuckles
Who implanted in him a Lite-Brite.

Uncle Isaac hosted family for Easter.
He told his sister he’d feast her.
They ate honey baked ham
And rack of young lamb
While Isaac dined on Jordy’s keister.

Isaac Chased Jordan Chasescott
From when he was just a young tot.
Isaac gave him a ball
and that wasn’t all,
for his undies had X marks the spot.

Uncle Isaac would pat Jordy’s buttock
And soothe him to sleep with some smut talk.
As Joey took vids
And entertained bids,
Little Jordy’s cradle would rock.

Uncle Isaac said let’s play Cowboys,
For riding is one of my joys.
I’ll be Roy, you’ll be Trigger,
As we gallop with vigor,
And Jordy, you’ll make whinny noise.

Isaac liked his nephew Jordy’s rear view,
From whence Jordy did his #2.
Jordy did #1
And Isaac said, son,
That not what we Commies doo-doo.

😆😆😆Ha ha ha

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jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
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> It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarilly autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themeselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were bascially writing satiricle sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements incliuded in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similiar to the ones experianced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...

Good afternoon Jordy, again, well put.

🙂

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On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:26:38 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarilly autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themeselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were bascially writing satiricle sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements incliuded in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similiar to the ones experianced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
>
> Good afternoon Jordy, again, well put.
>
> 🙂
thank you, Will

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On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 6:28:54 PM UTC-5, jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:26:38 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > It's odd and puzzling how many people seem to think and believe that a poem or a song or a story is necessarilly autobiographical! this is just NOT necessarily so! For example, the song or poem may be written from the POV of a writer's persona, or one of their many personas, or they may be written from the POV of invented characters... the members of Steely Dan, for example, have discussed how people would believe that they were writing about themeselves, when they have said they were primarily writing *fiction*, they were bascially writing satiricle sings told from the point of view of invented characters... now, this doesn't mean that their may not be autobiographical elements incliuded in the song or poem, their may indeed be thoughts and feeling or events included that are at least similiar to the ones experianced by the character(s) in the song or poem, but this does not necessarily mean that the poem is by any means strictly autobiographical...
> >
> > Good afternoon Jordy, again, well put.
> >
>
> thank you, Will

Hello my friend, great to see a friendly face.

:)


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