In article <si328v$qn5$2@dont-email.me>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
>> On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:
>>>
>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.
>>
>> That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an existing
>> character to appease the idiot "Politically Correct" whiners.
>
>Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will probably do
>exactly the same thing next year.
>

Dooming the franchise in the process.
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On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
> On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
>> On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:
>>>
>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.
>>
>> That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an existing
>> character to appease the idiot "Politically Correct" whiners.
>
> Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will probably do
> exactly the same thing next year.

It's by no means just the BBC either. For example, Moore-Ron's awful
"Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed 'Starbuck' into a woman. Those
are just two of many many examples.

Add in the shows/movies where they purposely gender/race-swap an
existing character, but at least have the decency to give the
show/movie a different name and pretend it's a different character
(e.g. Doogie Howser reboot), and there's even more examples.

In article <si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>> On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
>>> On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:
>>>>
>>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.
>>>
>>> That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an existing
>>> character to appease the idiot "Politically Correct" whiners.
>>
>> Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will probably do
>> exactly the same thing next year.
>
>It's by no means just the BBC either. For example, Moore-Ron's awful
>"Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed 'Starbuck' into a woman. Those
>are just two of many many examples.
>
>Add in the shows/movies where they purposely gender/race-swap an
>existing character, but at least have the decency to give the
>show/movie a different name and pretend it's a different character
>(e.g. Doogie Howser reboot), and there's even more examples.
>

Well said!
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On 9/17/2021 1:18 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
> T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote in news:86faaf77-e8e3-4032-
> a6fa-1c466926dd84n@googlegroups.com:
>
>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.
>>
> Or shambling zombie corpse.
>
A Pathetic Parody of a Shambling Zombie Corpse.

(Now how to set that to Model of a Modern Major General....)

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In article <si3d6m$pug$2@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>On 9/17/2021 1:18 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote in news:86faaf77-e8e3-4032-
>> a6fa-1c466926dd84n@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.
>>>
>> Or shambling zombie corpse.
>>
>A Pathetic Parody of a Shambling Zombie Corpse.
>
>(Now how to set that to Model of a Modern Major General....)
>

Oh!!

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>dirty old man.

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Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:

> On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>> On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
>>> On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:
>>>>
>>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
>>>> parody.
>>>
>>> That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an
>>> existing character to appease the idiot "Politically Correct"
>>> whiners.
>>
>> Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
>> probably do exactly the same thing next year.
>
> It's by no means just the BBC either. For example, Moore-Ron's
> awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed 'Starbuck' into a
> woman. Those are just two of many many examples.
>
Along with about half the characters recognizable from the original
show. And they made everything the exact opposite. Instead of the
Galactica being the flagship, it was so archaic it was being turned
into a museum. Instead of being robots, the Cylons were biological
constructs. Instead of being an evil genius, Baltar was a sniveling
coward and a moron. And so on.

Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

On 18/09/2021 01:51, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 9/17/2021 1:18 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote in news:86faaf77-e8e3-4032-
>> a6fa-1c466926dd84n@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.
>>>
>> Or shambling zombie corpse.
>>
> A Pathetic Parody of a Shambling Zombie Corpse.
>
> (Now how to set that to Model of a Modern Major General....)
>
I'm a pathetic parody of Your Name's shambling zombie corpse
I utter right wing "PC" jibes at all the things the zeitgeist warps
To big-up women gays and ethnic groups is evil says NewsCorp
This century is not for me, how long until the penny drops?

On 18/09/2021 09:29, Mike McKeown wrote:
> On 18/09/2021 01:51, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>> On 9/17/2021 1:18 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>> T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote in news:86faaf77-e8e3-4032-
>>> a6fa-1c466926dd84n@googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.
>>>>
>>> Or shambling zombie corpse.
>>>
>> A Pathetic Parody of a Shambling Zombie Corpse.
>>
>> (Now how to set that to Model of a Modern Major General....)
>>
> I'm a pathetic parody of Your Name's shambling zombie corpse
> I utter right wing "PC" jibes at all the things the zeitgeist warps
> To big-up women gays and ethnic groups is evil says NewsCorp
> This century is not for me, how long until the penny drops?

They've taken all my heroes and transformed them to update their shows
My case in point is Doctor Who, they've made the lead a woman - though
A dozen times they've changed his height, his age, his weight but even so
Shape-shifting aliens can only be straight white male Brits you know!

On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:

> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
> news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>
>> On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>>> On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
>>>> On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
>>>>> parody.
>>>>
>>>> That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an
>>>> existing character to appease the idiot "Politically Correct"
>>>> whiners.
>>>
>>> Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
>>> probably do exactly the same thing next year.
>>
>> It's by no means just the BBC either. For example, Moore-Ron's
>> awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed 'Starbuck' into a
>> woman. Those are just two of many many examples.
>
> Along with about half the characters recognizable from the original
> show. And they made everything the exact opposite. Instead of the
> Galactica being the flagship, it was so archaic it was being turned
> into a museum. Instead of being robots, the Cylons were biological
> constructs. Instead of being an evil genius, Baltar was a sniveling
> coward and a moron. And so on.
>
> Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.

Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything the original
creator made it to be, including changing it from a good easy-going
show to hard-going, over-realistic and over-sexed boring crap.

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
news:si6io0$tdn$1@gioia.aioe.org:

> On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>> news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>
>>> On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>>>> On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
>>>>>> parody.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an
>>>>> existing character to appease the idiot "Politically
>>>>> Correct" whiners.
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
>>>> probably do exactly the same thing next year.
>>>
>>> It's by no means just the BBC either. For example, Moore-Ron's
>>> awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed 'Starbuck' into a
>>> woman. Those are just two of many many examples.
>>
>> Along with about half the characters recognizable from the
>> original show. And they made everything the exact opposite.
>> Instead of the Galactica being the flagship, it was so archaic
>> it was being turned into a museum. Instead of being robots, the
>> Cylons were biological constructs. Instead of being an evil
>> genius, Baltar was a sniveling coward and a moron. And so on.
>>
>> Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.
>
> Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything the
> original creator made it to be, including changing it from a
> good easy-going show to hard-going, over-realistic and
> over-sexed boring crap.
>
Even by the stardards of the late 70s, it was pretty cheesy. That
was one of Glen Larson's trademarks. (That's not to say it was bad,
or that I didn't like it, or even that I don't like it *now*, but I
really don't miss the diary products.)

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

On 2021-09-19 20:44:08 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
> news:si6io0$tdn$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>> On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>>> news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>>> On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>>>>> On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
>>>>>>> parody.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an
>>>>>> existing character to appease the idiot "Politically
>>>>>> Correct" whiners.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
>>>>> probably do exactly the same thing next year.
>>>>
>>>> It's by no means just the BBC either. For example, Moore-Ron's
>>>> awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed 'Starbuck' into a
>>>> woman. Those are just two of many many examples.
>>>
>>> Along with about half the characters recognizable from the
>>> original show. And they made everything the exact opposite.
>>> Instead of the Galactica being the flagship, it was so archaic
>>> it was being turned into a museum. Instead of being robots, the
>>> Cylons were biological constructs. Instead of being an evil
>>> genius, Baltar was a sniveling coward and a moron. And so on.
>>>
>>> Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.
>>
>> Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything the
>> original creator made it to be, including changing it from a
>> good easy-going show to hard-going, over-realistic and
>> over-sexed boring crap.
>
> Even by the stardards of the late 70s, it was pretty cheesy. That
> was one of Glen Larson's trademarks. (That's not to say it was bad,
> or that I didn't like it, or even that I don't like it *now*, but I
> really don't miss the diary products.)

Whether or not any individual person likes it, *that* is how Larson
created it to be ... that's what "Battlestar Galactica" *is* and always
will be.

Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and *thinks* they
know what "it should have been" is simply ridiculous, selfish, and
obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the studio (mis)managament wanted to create
such a totally different show, then they should have created his *own*
show with it's own name, not butcher someone else's work and try to
pretend it's the same thing.

It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots" Hollywerid
keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and "sequel" shows, which
may or may not be stupid ideas too.)

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
news:si8b9i$1991$1@gioia.aioe.org:

> On 2021-09-19 20:44:08 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>> news:si6io0$tdn$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>> On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>>>> news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>> On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>>>>>> On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
>>>>>>>> parody.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an
>>>>>>> existing character to appease the idiot "Politically
>>>>>>> Correct" whiners.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
>>>>>> probably do exactly the same thing next year.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's by no means just the BBC either. For example,
>>>>> Moore-Ron's awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed
>>>>> 'Starbuck' into a woman. Those are just two of many many
>>>>> examples.
>>>>
>>>> Along with about half the characters recognizable from the
>>>> original show. And they made everything the exact opposite.
>>>> Instead of the Galactica being the flagship, it was so
>>>> archaic it was being turned into a museum. Instead of being
>>>> robots, the Cylons were biological constructs. Instead of
>>>> being an evil genius, Baltar was a sniveling coward and a
>>>> moron. And so on.
>>>>
>>>> Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.
>>>
>>> Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything the
>>> original creator made it to be, including changing it from a
>>> good easy-going show to hard-going, over-realistic and
>>> over-sexed boring crap.
>>
>> Even by the stardards of the late 70s, it was pretty cheesy.
>> That was one of Glen Larson's trademarks. (That's not to say it
>> was bad, or that I didn't like it, or even that I don't like it
>> *now*, but I really don't miss the diary products.)
>
> Whether or not any individual person likes it, *that* is how
> Larson created it to be ... that's what "Battlestar Galactica"
> *is* and always will be.

I won't argue with the idea that the remake would have been more
enjoyable if they'd called it something else.
>
> Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and *thinks*
> they know what "it should have been" is simply ridiculous,
> selfish, and obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the studio
> (mis)managament wanted to create such a totally different show,
> then they should have created his *own* show with it's own name,
> not butcher someone else's work and try to pretend it's the same
> thing.

Given that it got the highest ratings of any show in history of the
Syphilis Channel (at the time, and possibly still), it apparently
had something going for it, whether you whine about it like a two
year old with a dirty diaper or not.
>
> It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots"
> Hollywerid keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and
> "sequel" shows, which may or may not be stupid ideas too.)
>
Hollywood ran out of ideas decades ago, and is too cheap to buy
more. That's the inevitable end game of turning a creative art into
a business, especially one that involves that much money.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

On 2021-09-19 21:59:52 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
> news:si8b9i$1991$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>> On 2021-09-19 20:44:08 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>>> news:si6io0$tdn$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>>> On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>>> On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>>>>>>> On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
>>>>>>>>> parody.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an
>>>>>>>> existing character to appease the idiot "Politically
>>>>>>>> Correct" whiners.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
>>>>>>> probably do exactly the same thing next year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's by no means just the BBC either. For example,
>>>>>> Moore-Ron's awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed
>>>>>> 'Starbuck' into a woman. Those are just two of many many
>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>
>>>>> Along with about half the characters recognizable from the
>>>>> original show. And they made everything the exact opposite.
>>>>> Instead of the Galactica being the flagship, it was so
>>>>> archaic it was being turned into a museum. Instead of being
>>>>> robots, the Cylons were biological constructs. Instead of
>>>>> being an evil genius, Baltar was a sniveling coward and a
>>>>> moron. And so on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.
>>>>
>>>> Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything the
>>>> original creator made it to be, including changing it from a
>>>> good easy-going show to hard-going, over-realistic and
>>>> over-sexed boring crap.
>>>
>>> Even by the stardards of the late 70s, it was pretty cheesy.
>>> That was one of Glen Larson's trademarks. (That's not to say it
>>> was bad, or that I didn't like it, or even that I don't like it
>>> *now*, but I really don't miss the diary products.)
>>
>> Whether or not any individual person likes it, *that* is how
>> Larson created it to be ... that's what "Battlestar Galactica"
>> *is* and always will be.
>
> I won't argue with the idea that the remake would have been more
> enjoyable if they'd called it something else.

Calling it something else would have been sensible, unfortunately
neither Hollyweird nor management are ever sensible. :-(

In terms of proper "Battlestar Galactica", the best idea would have
been to do the original idea of a proper follow-on show (that had
already been started!) ... or not do it at all.

>> Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and *thinks*
>> they know what "it should have been" is simply ridiculous,
>> selfish, and obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the studio
>> (mis)managament wanted to create such a totally different show,
>> then they should have created his *own* show with it's own name,
>> not butcher someone else's work and try to pretend it's the same
>> thing.
>
> Given that it got the highest ratings of any show in history of the
> Syphilis Channel (at the time, and possibly still), it apparently
> had something going for it, whether you whine about it like a two
> year old with a dirty diaper or not.

As above, whether or not any individual person likes it or wether it
was more popular or not aren't actually relevant - the point was that
Moore-Ron's show is *not* "Battlestar Galactica" and never will be.

>> It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots"
>> Hollywerid keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and
>> "sequel" shows, which may or may not be stupid ideas too.)
>
> Hollywood ran out of ideas decades ago, and is too cheap to buy
> more. That's the inevitable end game of turning a creative art into
> a business, especially one that involves that much money.

It isn't even just Hollyweird. It's the whole entertainment industry.
Comic book also have idiotic reboots where they change their existing
characters. There are a few different Spider-men now, Batman changed
from ordinary comic superhero into a dismally dark "Dark Knight"
version, etc.

Even in books they release a new book in an on-going series, but
stupidly give it a completely differecnt cover design that doesn match
the existing ones (and of course they re-release the older books with
the new cover).

Most of it is pure seflish greed to shovel more money into their own
pockets and screw the original fans who made it popular in the first
place. :-(

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
news:si8f8p$nb3$1@gioia.aioe.org:

> On 2021-09-19 21:59:52 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>> news:si8b9i$1991$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>> On 2021-09-19 20:44:08 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>>>> news:si6io0$tdn$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>> On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>>>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>>>> On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>>>>>>>> On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
>>>>>>>>>> parody.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap
>>>>>>>>> an existing character to appease the idiot "Politically
>>>>>>>>> Correct" whiners.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
>>>>>>>> probably do exactly the same thing next year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's by no means just the BBC either. For example,
>>>>>>> Moore-Ron's awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed
>>>>>>> 'Starbuck' into a woman. Those are just two of many many
>>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Along with about half the characters recognizable from the
>>>>>> original show. And they made everything the exact opposite.
>>>>>> Instead of the Galactica being the flagship, it was so
>>>>>> archaic it was being turned into a museum. Instead of being
>>>>>> robots, the Cylons were biological constructs. Instead of
>>>>>> being an evil genius, Baltar was a sniveling coward and a
>>>>>> moron. And so on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything the
>>>>> original creator made it to be, including changing it from a
>>>>> good easy-going show to hard-going, over-realistic and
>>>>> over-sexed boring crap.
>>>>
>>>> Even by the stardards of the late 70s, it was pretty cheesy.
>>>> That was one of Glen Larson's trademarks. (That's not to say
>>>> it was bad, or that I didn't like it, or even that I don't
>>>> like it *now*, but I really don't miss the diary products.)
>>>
>>> Whether or not any individual person likes it, *that* is how
>>> Larson created it to be ... that's what "Battlestar Galactica"
>>> *is* and always will be.
>>
>> I won't argue with the idea that the remake would have been
>> more enjoyable if they'd called it something else.
>
> Calling it something else would have been sensible,
> unfortunately neither Hollyweird nor management are ever
> sensible. :-(

And never has been.
>
> In terms of proper "Battlestar Galactica", the best idea would
> have been to do the original idea of a proper follow-on show
> (that had already been started!) ... or not do it at all.
>
You mean like Battlestar Galactica 1980?
>
>
>
>
>>> Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and
>>> *thinks* they know what "it should have been" is simply
>>> ridiculous, selfish, and obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the
>>> studio (mis)managament wanted to create such a totally
>>> different show, then they should have created his *own* show
>>> with it's own name, not butcher someone else's work and try to
>>> pretend it's the same thing.
>>
>> Given that it got the highest ratings of any show in history of
>> the Syphilis Channel (at the time, and possibly still), it
>> apparently had something going for it, whether you whine about
>> it like a two year old with a dirty diaper or not.
>
> As above, whether or not any individual person likes it or
> wether it was more popular or not aren't actually relevant

Except to the people who spend millions of dollars making it.

> - the
> point was that Moore-Ron's show is *not* "Battlestar Galactica"
> and never will be.

Because, of course, the name belongs to you, so you get ot decide
what is and isn't suitable for its use. How much did you pay for
it?
>
>
>
>>> It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots"
>>> Hollywerid keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and
>>> "sequel" shows, which may or may not be stupid ideas too.)
>>
>> Hollywood ran out of ideas decades ago, and is too cheap to buy
>> more. That's the inevitable end game of turning a creative art
>> into a business, especially one that involves that much money.
>
> It isn't even just Hollyweird. It's the whole entertainment
> industry.

Most of which is owned by movie studios these days.

> Comic book also have idiotic reboots where they change
> their existing characters. There are a few different Spider-men
> now, Batman changed from ordinary comic superhero into a
> dismally dark "Dark Knight" version, etc.

That's as inherent as part of the genre as "if they're dead,
they're not dead, and if you have a body, that proves they're not
dead."

It's like complaning that cop shows have chase scenes.
>
> Even in books they release a new book in an on-going series, but
> stupidly give it a completely differecnt cover design that doesn
> match the existing ones (and of course they re-release the older
> books with the new cover).

It's not like the cover artists read the books, or even the short
description of the scene they're supposed to illustrate. Hell, most
of them don't read the title.

One of the advantages of ebooks is that I can *change* the cover to
whatever I want.
>
> Most of it is pure seflish greed to shovel more money into their
> own pockets and screw the original fans who made it popular in
> the first place. :-(
>
That being the point of bunning a business, after all.

You seem to be suffering from a common delusion in fandom: that
*you* own the property, not the people who actually do.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

On 2021-09-20 01:47:37 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
> news:si8f8p$nb3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>> On 2021-09-19 21:59:52 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>>> news:si8b9i$1991$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>>> On 2021-09-19 20:44:08 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:si6io0$tdn$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>>> On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>>>>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>>>>> On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>>>>>>>>> On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
>>>>>>>>>>> parody.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap
>>>>>>>>>> an existing character to appease the idiot "Politically
>>>>>>>>>> Correct" whiners.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
>>>>>>>>> probably do exactly the same thing next year.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's by no means just the BBC either. For example,
>>>>>>>> Moore-Ron's awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed
>>>>>>>> 'Starbuck' into a woman. Those are just two of many many
>>>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Along with about half the characters recognizable from the
>>>>>>> original show. And they made everything the exact opposite.
>>>>>>> Instead of the Galactica being the flagship, it was so
>>>>>>> archaic it was being turned into a museum. Instead of being
>>>>>>> robots, the Cylons were biological constructs. Instead of
>>>>>>> being an evil genius, Baltar was a sniveling coward and a
>>>>>>> moron. And so on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything the
>>>>>> original creator made it to be, including changing it from a
>>>>>> good easy-going show to hard-going, over-realistic and
>>>>>> over-sexed boring crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even by the stardards of the late 70s, it was pretty cheesy.
>>>>> That was one of Glen Larson's trademarks. (That's not to say
>>>>> it was bad, or that I didn't like it, or even that I don't
>>>>> like it *now*, but I really don't miss the diary products.)
>>>>
>>>> Whether or not any individual person likes it, *that* is how
>>>> Larson created it to be ... that's what "Battlestar Galactica"
>>>> *is* and always will be.
>>>
>>> I won't argue with the idea that the remake would have been
>>> more enjoyable if they'd called it something else.
>>
>> Calling it something else would have been sensible,
>> unfortunately neither Hollyweird nor management are ever
>> sensible. :-(
>
> And never has been.
>>
>> In terms of proper "Battlestar Galactica", the best idea would
>> have been to do the original idea of a proper follow-on show
>> (that had already been started!) ... or not do it at all.
>>
> You mean like Battlestar Galactica 1980?

Nope, that was also rebooted drivel that had little to do with the
original show.

I meant a proper sequel show, ignoring that "Galactica 1980 garbage,
like the show that was originally planned and had begun work on before
Moore-Ron took over.

>>>> Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and
>>>> *thinks* they know what "it should have been" is simply
>>>> ridiculous, selfish, and obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the
>>>> studio (mis)managament wanted to create such a totally
>>>> different show, then they should have created his *own* show
>>>> with it's own name, not butcher someone else's work and try to
>>>> pretend it's the same thing.
>>>
>>> Given that it got the highest ratings of any show in history of
>>> the Syphilis Channel (at the time, and possibly still), it
>>> apparently had something going for it, whether you whine about
>>> it like a two year old with a dirty diaper or not.
>>
>> As above, whether or not any individual person likes it or
>> wether it was more popular or not aren't actually relevant
>
> Except to the people who spend millions of dollars making it.

Relevant to the point. :-\

>> - the point was that Moore-Ron's show is *not* "Battlestar Galactica"
>> and never will be.
>
> Because, of course, the name belongs to you, so you get ot decide
> what is and isn't suitable for its use. How much did you pay for
> it?

The name belong to the original product and its creator. It was created
by him to be exactly as it was.

>>>> It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots"
>>>> Hollywerid keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and
>>>> "sequel" shows, which may or may not be stupid ideas too.)
>>>
>>> Hollywood ran out of ideas decades ago, and is too cheap to buy
>>> more. That's the inevitable end game of turning a creative art
>>> into a business, especially one that involves that much money.
>>
>> It isn't even just Hollyweird. It's the whole entertainment
>> industry.
>
> Most of which is owned by movie studios these days.

Some of it is becoming owned by the electronics manufacturers (Sony,
Apple) and web-retailers (Amazon).

>> Comic book also have idiotic reboots where they change
>> their existing characters. There are a few different Spider-men
>> now, Batman changed from ordinary comic superhero into a
>> dismally dark "Dark Knight" version, etc.
>
> That's as inherent as part of the genre as "if they're dead,
> they're not dead, and if you have a body, that proves they're not
> dead."
>
> It's like complaning that cop shows have chase scenes.

Completely different.

>> Even in books they release a new book in an on-going series, but
>> stupidly give it a completely differecnt cover design that doesn
>> match the existing ones (and of course they re-release the older
>> books with the new cover).
>
> It's not like the cover artists read the books, or even the short
> description of the scene they're supposed to illustrate. Hell, most
> of them don't read the title.

I was talking more about the design style of the cover, as well as the
physical size of the book in some cases.

> One of the advantages of ebooks is that I can *change* the cover to
> whatever I want.

Defeats the purpose since you can't have them sitting in a row on the
book shelf.

>> Most of it is pure seflish greed to shovel more money into their
>> own pockets and screw the original fans who made it popular in
>> the first place. :-(
>
> That being the point of bunning a business, after all.

No, the purpose of running a business is to satisfy the customer - in
this case it is (or at least should be!) the fans who have helped make
it a successful product. Yet what they get is a silly "reboot" ... a
moronically stupid idea that anyone with sense wouldn't even dream up
(but as above, Hollyweird has no sense) - it kicks the existing fans in
the teeth, while re-using the same name means the non-fans they're
supposedly trying to attract are already less likely to give it a look
(why would anyone with a braincell who didn't like the original show
bother to even watch something using the same name!?).

> You seem to be suffering from a common delusion in fandom: that
> *you* own the property, not the people who actually do.

I never said anything about "owning" it.

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
news:si9aed$1cft$1@gioia.aioe.org:

> On 2021-09-20 01:47:37 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>> news:si8f8p$nb3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>> On 2021-09-19 21:59:52 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>>>> news:si8b9i$1991$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>> On 2021-09-19 20:44:08 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>>>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:si6io0$tdn$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>>>> On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
>>>>>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>>>>>> On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
>>>>>>>>>> On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a
>>>>>>>>>>>> pathetic parody.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's what happens when they stupidly
>>>>>>>>>>> gender/race-swap an existing character to appease the
>>>>>>>>>>> idiot "Politically Correct" whiners.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and
>>>>>>>>>> will probably do exactly the same thing next year.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's by no means just the BBC either. For example,
>>>>>>>>> Moore-Ron's awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed
>>>>>>>>> 'Starbuck' into a woman. Those are just two of many many
>>>>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Along with about half the characters recognizable from
>>>>>>>> the original show. And they made everything the exact
>>>>>>>> opposite. Instead of the Galactica being the flagship, it
>>>>>>>> was so archaic it was being turned into a museum. Instead
>>>>>>>> of being robots, the Cylons were biological constructs.
>>>>>>>> Instead of being an evil genius, Baltar was a sniveling
>>>>>>>> coward and a moron. And so on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything
>>>>>>> the original creator made it to be, including changing it
>>>>>>> from a good easy-going show to hard-going, over-realistic
>>>>>>> and over-sexed boring crap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even by the stardards of the late 70s, it was pretty
>>>>>> cheesy. That was one of Glen Larson's trademarks. (That's
>>>>>> not to say it was bad, or that I didn't like it, or even
>>>>>> that I don't like it *now*, but I really don't miss the
>>>>>> diary products.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Whether or not any individual person likes it, *that* is how
>>>>> Larson created it to be ... that's what "Battlestar
>>>>> Galactica" *is* and always will be.
>>>>
>>>> I won't argue with the idea that the remake would have been
>>>> more enjoyable if they'd called it something else.
>>>
>>> Calling it something else would have been sensible,
>>> unfortunately neither Hollyweird nor management are ever
>>> sensible. :-(
>>
>> And never has been.
>>>
>>> In terms of proper "Battlestar Galactica", the best idea would
>>> have been to do the original idea of a proper follow-on show
>>> (that had already been started!) ... or not do it at all.
>>>
>> You mean like Battlestar Galactica 1980?
>
> Nope, that was also rebooted drivel that had little to do with
> the original show.
>
> I meant a proper sequel show, ignoring that "Galactica 1980
> garbage, like the show that was originally planned and had begun
> work on before Moore-Ron took over.
>
>
>
>
>>>>> Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and
>>>>> *thinks* they know what "it should have been" is simply
>>>>> ridiculous, selfish, and obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the
>>>>> studio (mis)managament wanted to create such a totally
>>>>> different show, then they should have created his *own* show
>>>>> with it's own name, not butcher someone else's work and try
>>>>> to pretend it's the same thing.
>>>>
>>>> Given that it got the highest ratings of any show in history
>>>> of the Syphilis Channel (at the time, and possibly still), it
>>>> apparently had something going for it, whether you whine
>>>> about it like a two year old with a dirty diaper or not.
>>>
>>> As above, whether or not any individual person likes it or
>>> wether it was more popular or not aren't actually relevant
>>
>> Except to the people who spend millions of dollars making it.
>
> Relevant to the point. :-\
>
>
>>> - the point was that Moore-Ron's show is *not* "Battlestar
>>> Galactica" and never will be.
>>
>> Because, of course, the name belongs to you, so you get ot
>> decide what is and isn't suitable for its use. How much did you
>> pay for it?
>
> The name belong to the original product and its creator. It was
> created by him to be exactly as it was.
>
>
>
>
>>>>> It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots"
>>>>> Hollywerid keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and
>>>>> "sequel" shows, which may or may not be stupid ideas too.)
>>>>
>>>> Hollywood ran out of ideas decades ago, and is too cheap to
>>>> buy more. That's the inevitable end game of turning a
>>>> creative art into a business, especially one that involves
>>>> that much money.
>>>
>>> It isn't even just Hollyweird. It's the whole entertainment
>>> industry.
>>
>> Most of which is owned by movie studios these days.
>
> Some of it is becoming owned by the electronics manufacturers
> (Sony, Apple) and web-retailers (Amazon).
>
>
>
>>> Comic book also have idiotic reboots where they change
>>> their existing characters. There are a few different
>>> Spider-men now, Batman changed from ordinary comic superhero
>>> into a dismally dark "Dark Knight" version, etc.
>>
>> That's as inherent as part of the genre as "if they're dead,
>> they're not dead, and if you have a body, that proves they're
>> not dead."
>>
>> It's like complaning that cop shows have chase scenes.
>
> Completely different.
>
>
>
>>> Even in books they release a new book in an on-going series,
>>> but stupidly give it a completely differecnt cover design that
>>> doesn match the existing ones (and of course they re-release
>>> the older books with the new cover).
>>
>> It's not like the cover artists read the books, or even the
>> short description of the scene they're supposed to illustrate.
>> Hell, most of them don't read the title.
>
> I was talking more about the design style of the cover, as well
> as the physical size of the book in some cases.
>
>
>
>> One of the advantages of ebooks is that I can *change* the
>> cover to whatever I want.
>
> Defeats the purpose since you can't have them sitting in a row
> on the book shelf.
>
>
>
>>> Most of it is pure seflish greed to shovel more money into
>>> their own pockets and screw the original fans who made it
>>> popular in the first place. :-(
>>
>> That being the point of bunning a business, after all.
>
> No, the purpose of running a business is to satisfy the customer