Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>On 7/21/2023 6:17 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>> On 7/20/2023 7:35 PM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>>> On 7/20/2023 8:59 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>>> What Did You Watch? 2023-07-18/19 (Tuesday/Wednesday)
>>>>> 2 day catch-up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stargate: SG-1 S7E20 'Inauguration' - DVD
>>>>> "On his very first day on the job, newly elected President Henry Hayes
>>>>> is briefed by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General
>>>>> Francis Maynard, on the Stargate program. Amazed as he is with the
>>>>> existence of the program, he's downright angry at hearing that the new
>>>>> Vice President, Robert Kinsey, has known about the project for years.
>>>>> Kinsey warns him that the program is in dangerous hands and is
>>>>> obviously out to take control of the program himself. The President is
>>>>> his own man however and wants evidence before making any decision.
>>>>> Richard Woolsey is brought in to lay out a case for shaking up the SGC."
>>>>>
>>>>> President Hayes: Now I have to call the ex-president of Togo. And when
>>>>> I'm done, apparently, the rest of the world is coming to an end.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: You can't possibly be taking their
>>>>> side.
>>>>>      President Hayes: I need time to absorb this, Bob.
>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: We may not have much time. The
>>>>> longer those people...
>>>>>      President Hayes: Relax. All I'm saying is, at the moment, I'm
>>>>> giving them the benefit of the doubt. I need to know more.
>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: I think you know all you need to
>>>>> know, and that includes why you're here.
>>>>>      President Hayes: I'm here, Bob, because the people of this nation
>>>>> elected me to run their country, not the whole damn galaxy... and this
>>>>> is my office, Bob, not yours, no matter what you may think you did to
>>>>> make this happen, and don't you ever, for one second, forget that.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Don't let the suit fool you.  We're going to fight."  :-)
>>>> I liked this President.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Character Error: General Francis Maynard refers to Robert Kinsey as
>>>>> "Senator Kinsey". By this stage he is, of course, the Vice President
>>>>> and thus is no longer a Senator.
>>>>> (Personally I think it was a deliberate insult.)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Definitely deliberate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Trivia: As President Hayes is walking down the hall towards the Oval
>>>>> Office, on his first day, he stops to look at several historical
>>>>> busts. While looking at the last one, a bust of President John F.
>>>>> Kennedy, he bends down to take a long look at it and then stands up
>>>>> and adjusts his tie while looking at a mirror. William Devane played
>>>>> President Kennedy in The Missiles of October (1974).
>>>>> The Oval Office set used for episodes #7.20 "Inaguration" and #7.21/22
>>>>> "The Lost City" is the same one used in the motion picture X2: X-Men
>>>>> United (2003).
>>>>>
>>>>> This was a "clip show".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I figured as much.  The production number was a huge clue they were
>>>> saving their money for a big budget finale.
>>>>
>>>>> Commentary: Peter Woeste (Director and DP) and Exec Producer Michael
>>>>> Greenburg.  The Oval Office set was built in a former car dealership.
>>>>> Appropriate place for many former Presidents.  :)  The new footage was
>>>>> shot in four days.  They say the episode 'Grace' set ratings records
>>>>> for both the show and Sci-Fi Network up to this point in time.  I'm
>>>>> impressed that the commentators in all these commentaries, not just
>>>>> this one, are able to identify the episode titles clips are from and
>>>>> that certain events took place in quickly and apparently easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Stargate: SG-1 S7E21 'Lost City'
>>>>
>>>> (Cough. Backdoor pilot.  Cough.)
>>>>
>>>> - DVD
>>>>> "Daniel thinks he may have found the location of another Ancients'
>>>>> library and SG-1 set off to investigate. They know how to download the
>>>>> information - into a human mind - but are also aware that when O'Neill
>>>>> did this once before, he nearly died and was saved only by the Asgard.
>>>>> Nonetheless he steps up again knowing the consequences. The effect of
>>>>> downloading the library will take a few days to show effects and
>>>>> members of the team visit him at home along with General Hammond who
>>>>> has important news for them: he's been relieved of command. Back in
>>>>> Washington, the President has recruited Dr. Elizabeth Weir, a noted
>>>>> international negotiator, to run SGC. Vice President Kinsey let's her
>>>>> know that he expects her to take orders from him. Weir arrives at the
>>>>> SGC with news that all off-world activity is shut down for 3 months
>>>>> while the program is reviewed. This just as Master Bra'tac arrives to
>>>>> tell them Anubis will be attacking the Earth in three days time."
>>>>>
>>>>>      Major Samantha Carter: [Daniel suspects that Jack has just
>>>>> completed a crossword puzzle using the Ancient's language, and Sam is
>>>>> studying it] The clue for 7 down is 'celestial body', and he wrote
>>>>> 'Uma Thurman'.
>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: [in a content voice, smiling] Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Teal'c's like one of the deepest people I
>>>>> know. I mean, he's *so* deep. Go on, t-tell them how deep you are!
>>>>> You'll be lucky if you understand this.
>>>>>      Teal'c: [lifts one eyebrow] My depth is immaterial to this
>>>>> conversation.
>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Ooh! See?
>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: No more beer for you.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: I understand time is short.
>>>>
>>>> In more ways than one.  This actress was replaced wasn't she?  Did they
>>>> mention on the commentary why they swapped actresses?
>>>>
>>> Yes, Jessica Steen was replaced with Torri Higginson in the next
>>> episode, the season 8 premiere. No, nothing in the commentary of this
>>> or S8E01 (which I just finished watching) about why.
>>>
>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: Actually, it's all relative, ma'am. Carter
>>>>> could explain better if we had more time.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: I remember when we were first trying to get
>>>>> the Stargate to work, I would come here and just stare at it for hours.
>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: Is that a-a gentle reminder that you've been
>>>>> an important part of this since the very beginning?
>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Subtle, huh?
>>>>>
>>>>>      [Bra'tac comes to the SGC]
>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: This is Dr. Elizabeth Weir. She's the new
>>>>> leader of this facility.
>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: [extends her hand] Hello.
>>>>>      Master Bra'tac: [concerned] Has Hammond of Texas fallen
>in battle?
>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: No, sir. He's-he's fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Colonel Jack O'Neill: Wanna glass? I can wash one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Trivia: This episode (and Lost City: Part 2 (2004)) were adapted from
>>>>> the script for the feature film Stargate 2.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think I knew that.
>>>>
>>>>> When this two-parter originally aired, each episode had individual
>>>>> different on-screen guest- and end credits. The DVD-version of Lost
>>>>> City part 1 & 2 however is merged together into one 90-minute episode,
>>>>> with combined on-screen credits for both parts. When these episodes
>>>>> are syndicated today as separate episodes, sometimes the combined
>>>>> on-screen guest credit run, thus crediting several actors for part 1,
>>>>> that are only present in part 2. The IMDb credits reflect the original
>>>>> separate credits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Commentary: Director Martin Wood, Amanda Tapping and Robert Cooper
>>>>> (also speaking for Brad Wright).  The previous episode,
>>>>> 'Inauguration', owes its existence to this script.  A clip show
>>>>> episode was shot to save money for this episode's production.  "When
>>>>> you get into the board room you don't want to be bored."  The
>>>>> explanation for why they keep doing strange ways of shooting scenes in
>>>>> the board room.  All the mythology and building on what happened on
>>>>> previous episodes was carefully planned.  No, it wasn't.  "The
>>>>> wonderful rich tapestry that makes it look like we knew what we were
>>>>> doing." is how they describe it. Apparently one of the first things
>>>>> General Jumper, the new Air Force Chief of Staff, asked his staff when
>>>>> he assumed the position was "When do I get to be on 'Stargate'?"  :D
>>>>> During the production of these last half-dozen or so episodes of the
>>>>> season they were "borrowing" Second Units from other productions
>>>>> because it was all such a jumbled mess due to RDA's availability.
>>>>> This was also the biggest budget since the pilot.  (At least up to
>>>>> this point.)  This was also expected to be the series finale.  This
>>>>> was also my nemesis's final episode as the FX Producer.  Bye James
>>>>> Tichenor!  :P  (He does come back in season 10 for a couple of
>>>>> episodes as an uncredited compositor.  Whatever that is.)
>>>>>
>>>>> What Did You Watch?
>>>>
>>>> Are you going to watch Atlantis too?
>>>>
>>> No, I did screencaps of Atlantis some years ago so after SG-1 and its
>>> two movies I will cap Universe. Part of a mega-capping project.
>>>
>>>> Recently it was announced a direct to video Babylon 5 movie was coming
>>>> out.  I had plans to watch a few episodes of B5 I have on DVD then watch
>>>> the movie.  But now they've announced B5 is getting a full series
>>>> upgrade on blu-ray.  So now I'm pretty sure I'm going to get the blu-ray
>>>> box set and watch most, if not all of the series again.  I haven't
>>>> watched the series in forever, but I think it will be fun to revisit it
>>>> again.  I'll probably try to do what you're doing and watch a couple of
>>>> episodes each day.
>>>>
>>> I re-watched (and capped) B5 not long ago and I've already pre-ordered
>>> the disc of the animated movie. Ships August 15. :D
>>>
>>
>> Did you screen cap Babylon 5 in 4:3 or 16:9? They did some really ghastly
>> stuff to it to reformat to widescreen.
>>
>854x480. So 16:9. *shrug* Its what the DVDs were.

Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> On 7/21/2023 6:17 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On gaming night, I watched:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> What did you watch?
>>>>
>>>> Hey, thanks for asking!
>>>>
>>>> STAR TREK STRANGE NEW WORLDS
>>>> Newest episode reported on separately as well as a few ready room
>>>> behind-the-scenes shows.
>>>
>>> Isn't hWill hWeaton on Ready Room?
>>
>> Unfortunately. I hate him so.
>>
>>
>
> I've been a fan of Wil Wheaton since before he was on TNG. The only
> episodes of The Big Bang Theory I ever made it a point to watch were the
> episodes that featured him. Although I'm sure I missed most of them.
> The only regular cast member of TNG who I never saw at a convention is
> Wil Wheaton. Several years back I was at a convention thrown by pretty
> much the only company that was doing Star Trek conventions in the Bay
> Area and I asked one of the main organizers about getting Wheaton to
> attend a convention and he told that's not going to happen because there
> was some sort of falling out and he won't do their conventions. Then a
> few weeks ago I was at convention run by a different group and again
> talking to one of the organizers and he was telling me about the guests
> they were trying to bring for their next convention. He mentioned
> Wheaton. I told him I'd love it if they could get him and he told me
> he's been hearing that from a *lot* of people. You may not like him,
> but he definitely has fans. :-)
>
>

I liked him fine until recently when he started spewing venom on the
Twitter before leaving it. I was glad it was after I watched all the ready
room episodes for Picard.

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Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> On 7/20/2023 8:50 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>> On 7/20/2023 8:59 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>> What Did You Watch? 2023-07-18/19 (Tuesday/Wednesday)
>>>> 2 day catch-up.
>>>>
>>>> Stargate: SG-1 S7E20 'Inauguration' - DVD
>>>> "On his very first day on the job, newly elected President Henry Hayes
>>>> is briefed by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Francis
>>>> Maynard, on the Stargate program. Amazed as he is with the existence of
>>>> the program, he's downright angry at hearing that the new Vice
>>>> President, Robert Kinsey, has known about the project for years. Kinsey
>>>> warns him that the program is in dangerous hands and is obviously out to
>>>> take control of the program himself. The President is his own man
>>>> however and wants evidence before making any decision. Richard Woolsey
>>>> is brought in to lay out a case for shaking up the SGC."
>>>>
>>>> President Hayes: Now I have to call the ex-president of Togo. And when
>>>> I'm done, apparently, the rest of the world is coming to an end.
>>>>
>>>>     Vice President Robert Kinsey: You can't possibly be taking their side.
>>>>     President Hayes: I need time to absorb this, Bob.
>>>>     Vice President Robert Kinsey: We may not have much time. The longer
>>>> those people...
>>>>     President Hayes: Relax. All I'm saying is, at the moment, I'm
>>>> giving them the benefit of the doubt. I need to know more.
>>>>     Vice President Robert Kinsey: I think you know all you need to
>>>> know, and that includes why you're here.
>>>>     President Hayes: I'm here, Bob, because the people of this nation
>>>> elected me to run their country, not the whole damn galaxy... and this
>>>> is my office, Bob, not yours, no matter what you may think you did to
>>>> make this happen, and don't you ever, for one second, forget that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> "Don't let the suit fool you. We're going to fight." :-)
>>> I liked this President.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Character Error: General Francis Maynard refers to Robert Kinsey as
>>>> "Senator Kinsey". By this stage he is, of course, the Vice President and
>>>> thus is no longer a Senator.
>>>> (Personally I think it was a deliberate insult.)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Definitely deliberate.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Trivia: As President Hayes is walking down the hall towards the Oval
>>>> Office, on his first day, he stops to look at several historical busts.
>>>> While looking at the last one, a bust of President John F. Kennedy, he
>>>> bends down to take a long look at it and then stands up and adjusts his
>>>> tie while looking at a mirror. William Devane played President Kennedy
>>>> in The Missiles of October (1974).
>>>> The Oval Office set used for episodes #7.20 "Inaguration" and #7.21/22
>>>> "The Lost City" is the same one used in the motion picture X2: X-Men
>>>> United (2003).
>>>>
>>>> This was a "clip show".
>>>>
>>>
>>> I figured as much. The production number was a huge clue they were
>>> saving their money for a big budget finale.
>>>
>>>> Commentary: Peter Woeste (Director and DP) and Exec Producer Michael
>>>> Greenburg.  The Oval Office set was built in a former car dealership.
>>>> Appropriate place for many former Presidents.  :)  The new footage was
>>>> shot in four days.  They say the episode 'Grace' set ratings records for
>>>> both the show and Sci-Fi Network up to this point in time.  I'm
>>>> impressed that the commentators in all these commentaries, not just this
>>>> one, are able to identify the episode titles clips are from and that
>>>> certain events took place in quickly and apparently easily.
>>>>
>>>> ----------------
>>>>
>>>> Stargate: SG-1 S7E21 'Lost City'
>>>
>>> (Cough. Backdoor pilot. Cough.)
>>>
>>> - DVD
>>>> "Daniel thinks he may have found the location of another Ancients'
>>>> library and SG-1 set off to investigate. They know how to download the
>>>> information - into a human mind - but are also aware that when O'Neill
>>>> did this once before, he nearly died and was saved only by the Asgard.
>>>> Nonetheless he steps up again knowing the consequences. The effect of
>>>> downloading the library will take a few days to show effects and members
>>>> of the team visit him at home along with General Hammond who has
>>>> important news for them: he's been relieved of command. Back in
>>>> Washington, the President has recruited Dr. Elizabeth Weir, a noted
>>>> international negotiator, to run SGC. Vice President Kinsey let's her
>>>> know that he expects her to take orders from him. Weir arrives at the
>>>> SGC with news that all off-world activity is shut down for 3 months
>>>> while the program is reviewed. This just as Master Bra'tac arrives to
>>>> tell them Anubis will be attacking the Earth in three days time."
>>>>
>>>>     Major Samantha Carter: [Daniel suspects that Jack has just
>>>> completed a crossword puzzle using the Ancient's language, and Sam is
>>>> studying it] The clue for 7 down is 'celestial body', and he wrote 'Uma
>>>> Thurman'.
>>>>     Colonel Jack O'Neill: [in a content voice, smiling] Yes.
>>>>
>>>>     Dr. Daniel Jackson: Teal'c's like one of the deepest people I know.
>>>> I mean, he's *so* deep. Go on, t-tell them how deep you are! You'll be
>>>> lucky if you understand this.
>>>>     Teal'c: [lifts one eyebrow] My depth is immaterial to this
>>>> conversation.
>>>>     Dr. Daniel Jackson: Ooh! See?
>>>>     Colonel Jack O'Neill: No more beer for you.
>>>>
>>>>     Dr. Elizabeth Weir: I understand time is short.
>>>
>>> In more ways than one. This actress was replaced wasn't she? Did they
>>> mention on the commentary why they swapped actresses?
>>>
>>
>> They never told anyone, including her. She’s developed her own theory that
>> they considered her difficult because she kept asking questions about the
>> backstory of her character and SG1 and they wanted somebody who would just
>> shut up and hit their marks, and say their lines without asking what a Zat
>> was.
>>
> That sounds strange considering that Tapping gets praised in a number of
> the commentaries for researching on her own the real science behind the
> technobabble they kept giving her to say. It was also strange that they
> didn't address it in the commentary for the next episode, they've said
> before that they replaced an actor because the original wasn't available
> so it was a little off that they didn't mention the reason for this much
> more obvious replacement.

It’s been a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, surrounded by a cloak of silence
for a lot of years.

>
> My theory, she was prettier than Carter. :P
>
>

Oooooo

Buuurrrrrrrrn Notice!!

By the way, may I just say for the record that I am still pissed off that
Carter didn’t get first billing or special last billing or something for
the year she was on Stargate Atlantis, SGA (the “A“ stands for: ATLANTIS!)?

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Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> On 7/21/2023 6:17 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>> On 7/20/2023 7:35 PM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>>> On 7/20/2023 8:59 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>>> What Did You Watch? 2023-07-18/19 (Tuesday/Wednesday)
>>>>> 2 day catch-up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stargate: SG-1 S7E20 'Inauguration' - DVD
>>>>> "On his very first day on the job, newly elected President Henry Hayes
>>>>> is briefed by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General
>>>>> Francis Maynard, on the Stargate program. Amazed as he is with the
>>>>> existence of the program, he's downright angry at hearing that the new
>>>>> Vice President, Robert Kinsey, has known about the project for years.
>>>>> Kinsey warns him that the program is in dangerous hands and is
>>>>> obviously out to take control of the program himself. The President is
>>>>> his own man however and wants evidence before making any decision.
>>>>> Richard Woolsey is brought in to lay out a case for shaking up the SGC."
>>>>>
>>>>> President Hayes: Now I have to call the ex-president of Togo. And when
>>>>> I'm done, apparently, the rest of the world is coming to an end.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: You can't possibly be taking their
>>>>> side.
>>>>>      President Hayes: I need time to absorb this, Bob.
>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: We may not have much time. The
>>>>> longer those people...
>>>>>      President Hayes: Relax. All I'm saying is, at the moment, I'm
>>>>> giving them the benefit of the doubt. I need to know more.
>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: I think you know all you need to
>>>>> know, and that includes why you're here.
>>>>>      President Hayes: I'm here, Bob, because the people of this nation
>>>>> elected me to run their country, not the whole damn galaxy... and this
>>>>> is my office, Bob, not yours, no matter what you may think you did to
>>>>> make this happen, and don't you ever, for one second, forget that.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Don't let the suit fool you.  We're going to fight."  :-)
>>>> I liked this President.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Character Error: General Francis Maynard refers to Robert Kinsey as
>>>>> "Senator Kinsey". By this stage he is, of course, the Vice President
>>>>> and thus is no longer a Senator.
>>>>> (Personally I think it was a deliberate insult.)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Definitely deliberate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Trivia: As President Hayes is walking down the hall towards the Oval
>>>>> Office, on his first day, he stops to look at several historical
>>>>> busts. While looking at the last one, a bust of President John F.
>>>>> Kennedy, he bends down to take a long look at it and then stands up
>>>>> and adjusts his tie while looking at a mirror. William Devane played
>>>>> President Kennedy in The Missiles of October (1974).
>>>>> The Oval Office set used for episodes #7.20 "Inaguration" and #7.21/22
>>>>> "The Lost City" is the same one used in the motion picture X2: X-Men
>>>>> United (2003).
>>>>>
>>>>> This was a "clip show".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I figured as much.  The production number was a huge clue they were
>>>> saving their money for a big budget finale.
>>>>
>>>>> Commentary: Peter Woeste (Director and DP) and Exec Producer Michael
>>>>> Greenburg.  The Oval Office set was built in a former car dealership.
>>>>> Appropriate place for many former Presidents.  :)  The new footage was
>>>>> shot in four days.  They say the episode 'Grace' set ratings records
>>>>> for both the show and Sci-Fi Network up to this point in time.  I'm
>>>>> impressed that the commentators in all these commentaries, not just
>>>>> this one, are able to identify the episode titles clips are from and
>>>>> that certain events took place in quickly and apparently easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Stargate: SG-1 S7E21 'Lost City'
>>>>
>>>> (Cough. Backdoor pilot.  Cough.)
>>>>
>>>> - DVD
>>>>> "Daniel thinks he may have found the location of another Ancients'
>>>>> library and SG-1 set off to investigate. They know how to download the
>>>>> information - into a human mind - but are also aware that when O'Neill
>>>>> did this once before, he nearly died and was saved only by the Asgard.
>>>>> Nonetheless he steps up again knowing the consequences. The effect of
>>>>> downloading the library will take a few days to show effects and
>>>>> members of the team visit him at home along with General Hammond who
>>>>> has important news for them: he's been relieved of command. Back in
>>>>> Washington, the President has recruited Dr. Elizabeth Weir, a noted
>>>>> international negotiator, to run SGC. Vice President Kinsey let's her
>>>>> know that he expects her to take orders from him. Weir arrives at the
>>>>> SGC with news that all off-world activity is shut down for 3 months
>>>>> while the program is reviewed. This just as Master Bra'tac arrives to
>>>>> tell them Anubis will be attacking the Earth in three days time."
>>>>>
>>>>>      Major Samantha Carter: [Daniel suspects that Jack has just
>>>>> completed a crossword puzzle using the Ancient's language, and Sam is
>>>>> studying it] The clue for 7 down is 'celestial body', and he wrote
>>>>> 'Uma Thurman'.
>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: [in a content voice, smiling] Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Teal'c's like one of the deepest people I
>>>>> know. I mean, he's *so* deep. Go on, t-tell them how deep you are!
>>>>> You'll be lucky if you understand this.
>>>>>      Teal'c: [lifts one eyebrow] My depth is immaterial to this
>>>>> conversation.
>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Ooh! See?
>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: No more beer for you.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: I understand time is short.
>>>>
>>>> In more ways than one.  This actress was replaced wasn't she?  Did they
>>>> mention on the commentary why they swapped actresses?
>>>>
>>> Yes, Jessica Steen was replaced with Torri Higginson in the next
>>> episode, the season 8 premiere. No, nothing in the commentary of this
>>> or S8E01 (which I just finished watching) about why.
>>>
>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: Actually, it's all relative, ma'am. Carter
>>>>> could explain better if we had more time.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: I remember when we were first trying to get
>>>>> the Stargate to work, I would come here and just stare at it for hours.
>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: Is that a-a gentle reminder that you've been
>>>>> an important part of this since the very beginning?
>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Subtle, huh?
>>>>>
>>>>>      [Bra'tac comes to the SGC]
>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: This is Dr. Elizabeth Weir. She's the new
>>>>> leader of this facility.
>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: [extends her hand] Hello.
>>>>>      Master Bra'tac: [concerned] Has Hammond of Texas fallen in battle?
>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: No, sir. He's-he's fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Colonel Jack O'Neill: Wanna glass? I can wash one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Trivia: This episode (and Lost City: Part 2 (2004)) were adapted from
>>>>> the script for the feature film Stargate 2.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think I knew that.
>>>>
>>>>> When this two-parter originally aired, each episode had individual
>>>>> different on-screen guest- and end credits. The DVD-version of Lost
>>>>> City part 1 & 2 however is merged together into one 90-minute episode,
>>>>> with combined on-screen credits for both parts. When these episodes
>>>>> are syndicated today as separate episodes, sometimes the combined
>>>>> on-screen guest credit run, thus crediting several actors for part 1,
>>>>> that are only present in part 2. The IMDb credits reflect the original
>>>>> separate credits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Commentary: Director Martin Wood, Amanda Tapping and Robert Cooper
>>>>> (also speaking for Brad Wright).  The previous episode,
>>>>> 'Inauguration', owes its existence to this script.  A clip show
>>>>> episode was shot to save money for this episode's production.  "When
>>>>> you get into the board room you don't want to be bored."  The
>>>>> explanation for why they keep doing strange ways of shooting scenes in
>>>>> the board room.  All the mythology and building on what happened on
>>>>> previous episodes was carefully planned.  No, it wasn't.  "The
>>>>> wonderful rich tapestry that makes it look like we knew what we were
>>>>> doing." is how they describe it. Apparently one of the first things
>>>>> General Jumper, the new Air Force Chief of Staff, asked his staff when
>>>>> he assumed the position was "When do I get to be on 'Stargate'?"  :D
>>>>> During the production of these last half-dozen or so episodes of the
>>>>> season they were "borrowing" Second Units from other productions
>>>>> because it was all such a jumbled mess due to RDA's availability.
>>>>> This was also the biggest budget since the pilot.  (At least up to
>>>>> this point.)  This was also expected to be the series finale.  This
>>>>> was also my nemesis's final episode as the FX Producer.  Bye James
>>>>> Tichenor!  :P  (He does come back in season 10 for a couple of
>>>>> episodes as an uncredited compositor.  Whatever that is.)
>>>>>
>>>>> What Did You Watch?
>>>>
>>>> Are you going to watch Atlantis too?
>>>>
>>> No, I did screencaps of Atlantis some years ago so after SG-1 and its
>>> two movies I will cap Universe. Part of a mega-capping project.
>>>
>>>> Recently it was announced a direct to video Babylon 5 movie was coming
>>>> out.  I had plans to watch a few episodes of B5 I have on DVD then watch
>>>> the movie.  But now they've announced B5 is getting a full series
>>>> upgrade on blu-ray.  So now I'm pretty sure I'm going to get the blu-ray
>>>> box set and watch most, if not all of the series again.  I haven't
>>>> watched the series in forever, but I think it will be fun to revisit it
>>>> again.  I'll probably try to do what you're doing and watch a couple of
>>>> episodes each day.
>>>>
>>> I re-watched (and capped) B5 not long ago and I've already pre-ordered
>>> the disc of the animated movie. Ships August 15. :D
>>>
>>
>> Did you screen cap Babylon 5 in 4:3 or 16:9? They did some really ghastly
>> stuff to it to reformat to widescreen.
>>
> 854x480. So 16:9. *shrug* Its what the DVDs were.
>

On 7/21/2023 8:42 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>> On 7/21/2023 6:17 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>> On 7/20/2023 7:35 PM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>>>> On 7/20/2023 8:59 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>>>> What Did You Watch? 2023-07-18/19 (Tuesday/Wednesday)
>>>>>> 2 day catch-up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stargate: SG-1 S7E20 'Inauguration' - DVD
>>>>>> "On his very first day on the job, newly elected President Henry Hayes
>>>>>> is briefed by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General
>>>>>> Francis Maynard, on the Stargate program. Amazed as he is with the
>>>>>> existence of the program, he's downright angry at hearing that the new
>>>>>> Vice President, Robert Kinsey, has known about the project for years.
>>>>>> Kinsey warns him that the program is in dangerous hands and is
>>>>>> obviously out to take control of the program himself. The President is
>>>>>> his own man however and wants evidence before making any decision.
>>>>>> Richard Woolsey is brought in to lay out a case for shaking up the SGC."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> President Hayes: Now I have to call the ex-president of Togo. And when
>>>>>> I'm done, apparently, the rest of the world is coming to an end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: You can't possibly be taking their
>>>>>> side.
>>>>>>      President Hayes: I need time to absorb this, Bob.
>>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: We may not have much time. The
>>>>>> longer those people...
>>>>>>      President Hayes: Relax. All I'm saying is, at the moment, I'm
>>>>>> giving them the benefit of the doubt. I need to know more.
>>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: I think you know all you need to
>>>>>> know, and that includes why you're here.
>>>>>>      President Hayes: I'm here, Bob, because the people of this nation
>>>>>> elected me to run their country, not the whole damn galaxy... and this
>>>>>> is my office, Bob, not yours, no matter what you may think you did to
>>>>>> make this happen, and don't you ever, for one second, forget that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don't let the suit fool you.  We're going to fight."  :-)
>>>>> I liked this President.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Character Error: General Francis Maynard refers to Robert Kinsey as
>>>>>> "Senator Kinsey". By this stage he is, of course, the Vice President
>>>>>> and thus is no longer a Senator.
>>>>>> (Personally I think it was a deliberate insult.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Definitely deliberate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Trivia: As President Hayes is walking down the hall towards the Oval
>>>>>> Office, on his first day, he stops to look at several historical
>>>>>> busts. While looking at the last one, a bust of President John F.
>>>>>> Kennedy, he bends down to take a long look at it and then stands up
>>>>>> and adjusts his tie while looking at a mirror. William Devane played
>>>>>> President Kennedy in The Missiles of October (1974).
>>>>>> The Oval Office set used for episodes #7.20 "Inaguration" and #7.21/22
>>>>>> "The Lost City" is the same one used in the motion picture X2: X-Men
>>>>>> United (2003).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was a "clip show".
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I figured as much.  The production number was a huge clue they were
>>>>> saving their money for a big budget finale.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Commentary: Peter Woeste (Director and DP) and Exec Producer Michael
>>>>>> Greenburg.  The Oval Office set was built in a former car dealership.
>>>>>> Appropriate place for many former Presidents.  :)  The new footage was
>>>>>> shot in four days.  They say the episode 'Grace' set ratings records
>>>>>> for both the show and Sci-Fi Network up to this point in time.  I'm
>>>>>> impressed that the commentators in all these commentaries, not just
>>>>>> this one, are able to identify the episode titles clips are from and
>>>>>> that certain events took place in quickly and apparently easily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stargate: SG-1 S7E21 'Lost City'
>>>>>
>>>>> (Cough. Backdoor pilot.  Cough.)
>>>>>
>>>>> - DVD
>>>>>> "Daniel thinks he may have found the location of another Ancients'
>>>>>> library and SG-1 set off to investigate. They know how to download the
>>>>>> information - into a human mind - but are also aware that when O'Neill
>>>>>> did this once before, he nearly died and was saved only by the Asgard.
>>>>>> Nonetheless he steps up again knowing the consequences. The effect of
>>>>>> downloading the library will take a few days to show effects and
>>>>>> members of the team visit him at home along with General Hammond who
>>>>>> has important news for them: he's been relieved of command. Back in
>>>>>> Washington, the President has recruited Dr. Elizabeth Weir, a noted
>>>>>> international negotiator, to run SGC. Vice President Kinsey let's her
>>>>>> know that he expects her to take orders from him. Weir arrives at the
>>>>>> SGC with news that all off-world activity is shut down for 3 months
>>>>>> while the program is reviewed. This just as Master Bra'tac arrives to
>>>>>> tell them Anubis will be attacking the Earth in three days time."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Major Samantha Carter: [Daniel suspects that Jack has just
>>>>>> completed a crossword puzzle using the Ancient's language, and Sam is
>>>>>> studying it] The clue for 7 down is 'celestial body', and he wrote
>>>>>> 'Uma Thurman'.
>>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: [in a content voice, smiling] Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Teal'c's like one of the deepest people I
>>>>>> know. I mean, he's *so* deep. Go on, t-tell them how deep you are!
>>>>>> You'll be lucky if you understand this.
>>>>>>      Teal'c: [lifts one eyebrow] My depth is immaterial to this
>>>>>> conversation.
>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Ooh! See?
>>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: No more beer for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: I understand time is short.
>>>>>
>>>>> In more ways than one.  This actress was replaced wasn't she?  Did they
>>>>> mention on the commentary why they swapped actresses?
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, Jessica Steen was replaced with Torri Higginson in the next
>>>> episode, the season 8 premiere. No, nothing in the commentary of this
>>>> or S8E01 (which I just finished watching) about why.
>>>>
>>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: Actually, it's all relative, ma'am. Carter
>>>>>> could explain better if we had more time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: I remember when we were first trying to get
>>>>>> the Stargate to work, I would come here and just stare at it for hours.
>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: Is that a-a gentle reminder that you've been
>>>>>> an important part of this since the very beginning?
>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Subtle, huh?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      [Bra'tac comes to the SGC]
>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: This is Dr. Elizabeth Weir. She's the new
>>>>>> leader of this facility.
>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: [extends her hand] Hello.
>>>>>>      Master Bra'tac: [concerned] Has Hammond of Texas fallen
>> in battle?
>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: No, sir. He's-he's fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Colonel Jack O'Neill: Wanna glass? I can wash one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trivia: This episode (and Lost City: Part 2 (2004)) were adapted from
>>>>>> the script for the feature film Stargate 2.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think I knew that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> When this two-parter originally aired, each episode had individual
>>>>>> different on-screen guest- and end credits. The DVD-version of Lost
>>>>>> City part 1 & 2 however is merged together into one 90-minute episode,
>>>>>> with combined on-screen credits for both parts. When these episodes
>>>>>> are syndicated today as separate episodes, sometimes the combined
>>>>>> on-screen guest credit run, thus crediting several actors for part 1,
>>>>>> that are only present in part 2. The IMDb credits reflect the original
>>>>>> separate credits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Commentary: Director Martin Wood, Amanda Tapping and Robert Cooper
>>>>>> (also speaking for Brad Wright).  The previous episode,
>>>>>> 'Inauguration', owes its existence to this script.  A clip show
>>>>>> episode was shot to save money for this episode's production.  "When
>>>>>> you get into the board room you don't want to be bored."  The
>>>>>> explanation for why they keep doing strange ways of shooting scenes in
>>>>>> the board room.  All the mythology and building on what happened on
>>>>>> previous episodes was carefully planned.  No, it wasn't.  "The
>>>>>> wonderful rich tapestry that makes it look like we knew what we were
>>>>>> doing." is how they describe it. Apparently one of the first things
>>>>>> General Jumper, the new Air Force Chief of Staff, asked his staff when
>>>>>> he assumed the position was "When do I get to be on 'Stargate'?"  :D
>>>>>> During the production of these last half-dozen or so episodes of the
>>>>>> season they were "borrowing" Second Units from other productions
>>>>>> because it was all such a jumbled mess due to RDA's availability.
>>>>>> This was also the biggest budget since the pilot.  (At least up to
>>>>>> this point.)  This was also expected to be the series finale.  This
>>>>>> was also my nemesis's final episode as the FX Producer.  Bye James
>>>>>> Tichenor!  :P  (He does come back in season 10 for a couple of
>>>>>> episodes as an uncredited compositor.  Whatever that is.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What Did You Watch?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you going to watch Atlantis too?
>>>>>
>>>> No, I did screencaps of Atlantis some years ago so after SG-1 and its
>>>> two movies I will cap Universe. Part of a mega-capping project.
>>>>
>>>>> Recently it was announced a direct to video Babylon 5 movie was coming
>>>>> out.  I had plans to watch a few episodes of B5 I have on DVD then watch
>>>>> the movie.  But now they've announced B5 is getting a full series
>>>>> upgrade on blu-ray.  So now I'm pretty sure I'm going to get the blu-ray
>>>>> box set and watch most, if not all of the series again.  I haven't
>>>>> watched the series in forever, but I think it will be fun to revisit it
>>>>> again.  I'll probably try to do what you're doing and watch a couple of
>>>>> episodes each day.
>>>>>
>>>> I re-watched (and capped) B5 not long ago and I've already pre-ordered
>>>> the disc of the animated movie. Ships August 15. :D
>>>>
>>>
>>> Did you screen cap Babylon 5 in 4:3 or 16:9? They did some really ghastly
>>> stuff to it to reformat to widescreen.
>>>
>> 854x480. So 16:9. *shrug* Its what the DVDs were.
>
> I think you had to buy the VHS set for 4:3.
>
> What about the pilot episode? Do you have the edit for PTEN as it
> originally aired with Stewart Copeland's score? Straczynski got money
> from TNT to re-edit it in 1998 and the original edit vanished. It didn't
> need the Christopher Franke substitute score, and Straczynski added a
> huge spoiler to Kosh's dialogue when he addressed Sinclair as Valen.
>
No, they used the 1998 re-edit in the DVD set.

On 7/21/2023 9:37 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>> On 7/21/2023 6:17 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>> On 7/20/2023 7:35 PM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>>>> On 7/20/2023 8:59 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>>>> What Did You Watch? 2023-07-18/19 (Tuesday/Wednesday)
>>>>>> 2 day catch-up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stargate: SG-1 S7E20 'Inauguration' - DVD
>>>>>> "On his very first day on the job, newly elected President Henry Hayes
>>>>>> is briefed by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General
>>>>>> Francis Maynard, on the Stargate program. Amazed as he is with the
>>>>>> existence of the program, he's downright angry at hearing that the new
>>>>>> Vice President, Robert Kinsey, has known about the project for years.
>>>>>> Kinsey warns him that the program is in dangerous hands and is
>>>>>> obviously out to take control of the program himself. The President is
>>>>>> his own man however and wants evidence before making any decision.
>>>>>> Richard Woolsey is brought in to lay out a case for shaking up the SGC."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> President Hayes: Now I have to call the ex-president of Togo. And when
>>>>>> I'm done, apparently, the rest of the world is coming to an end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: You can't possibly be taking their
>>>>>> side.
>>>>>>      President Hayes: I need time to absorb this, Bob.
>>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: We may not have much time. The
>>>>>> longer those people...
>>>>>>      President Hayes: Relax. All I'm saying is, at the moment, I'm
>>>>>> giving them the benefit of the doubt. I need to know more.
>>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: I think you know all you need to
>>>>>> know, and that includes why you're here.
>>>>>>      President Hayes: I'm here, Bob, because the people of this nation
>>>>>> elected me to run their country, not the whole damn galaxy... and this
>>>>>> is my office, Bob, not yours, no matter what you may think you did to
>>>>>> make this happen, and don't you ever, for one second, forget that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don't let the suit fool you.  We're going to fight."  :-)
>>>>> I liked this President.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Character Error: General Francis Maynard refers to Robert Kinsey as
>>>>>> "Senator Kinsey". By this stage he is, of course, the Vice President
>>>>>> and thus is no longer a Senator.
>>>>>> (Personally I think it was a deliberate insult.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Definitely deliberate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Trivia: As President Hayes is walking down the hall towards the Oval
>>>>>> Office, on his first day, he stops to look at several historical
>>>>>> busts. While looking at the last one, a bust of President John F.
>>>>>> Kennedy, he bends down to take a long look at it and then stands up
>>>>>> and adjusts his tie while looking at a mirror. William Devane played
>>>>>> President Kennedy in The Missiles of October (1974).
>>>>>> The Oval Office set used for episodes #7.20 "Inaguration" and #7.21/22
>>>>>> "The Lost City" is the same one used in the motion picture X2: X-Men
>>>>>> United (2003).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was a "clip show".
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I figured as much.  The production number was a huge clue they were
>>>>> saving their money for a big budget finale.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Commentary: Peter Woeste (Director and DP) and Exec Producer Michael
>>>>>> Greenburg.  The Oval Office set was built in a former car dealership.
>>>>>> Appropriate place for many former Presidents.  :)  The new footage was
>>>>>> shot in four days.  They say the episode 'Grace' set ratings records
>>>>>> for both the show and Sci-Fi Network up to this point in time.  I'm
>>>>>> impressed that the commentators in all these commentaries, not just
>>>>>> this one, are able to identify the episode titles clips are from and
>>>>>> that certain events took place in quickly and apparently easily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stargate: SG-1 S7E21 'Lost City'
>>>>>
>>>>> (Cough. Backdoor pilot.  Cough.)
>>>>>
>>>>> - DVD
>>>>>> "Daniel thinks he may have found the location of another Ancients'
>>>>>> library and SG-1 set off to investigate. They know how to download the
>>>>>> information - into a human mind - but are also aware that when O'Neill
>>>>>> did this once before, he nearly died and was saved only by the Asgard.
>>>>>> Nonetheless he steps up again knowing the consequences. The effect of
>>>>>> downloading the library will take a few days to show effects and
>>>>>> members of the team visit him at home along with General Hammond who
>>>>>> has important news for them: he's been relieved of command. Back in
>>>>>> Washington, the President has recruited Dr. Elizabeth Weir, a noted
>>>>>> international negotiator, to run SGC. Vice President Kinsey let's her
>>>>>> know that he expects her to take orders from him. Weir arrives at the
>>>>>> SGC with news that all off-world activity is shut down for 3 months
>>>>>> while the program is reviewed. This just as Master Bra'tac arrives to
>>>>>> tell them Anubis will be attacking the Earth in three days time."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Major Samantha Carter: [Daniel suspects that Jack has just
>>>>>> completed a crossword puzzle using the Ancient's language, and Sam is
>>>>>> studying it] The clue for 7 down is 'celestial body', and he wrote
>>>>>> 'Uma Thurman'.
>>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: [in a content voice, smiling] Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Teal'c's like one of the deepest people I
>>>>>> know. I mean, he's *so* deep. Go on, t-tell them how deep you are!
>>>>>> You'll be lucky if you understand this.
>>>>>>      Teal'c: [lifts one eyebrow] My depth is immaterial to this
>>>>>> conversation.
>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Ooh! See?
>>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: No more beer for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: I understand time is short.
>>>>>
>>>>> In more ways than one.  This actress was replaced wasn't she?  Did they
>>>>> mention on the commentary why they swapped actresses?
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, Jessica Steen was replaced with Torri Higginson in the next
>>>> episode, the season 8 premiere. No, nothing in the commentary of this
>>>> or S8E01 (which I just finished watching) about why.
>>>>
>>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: Actually, it's all relative, ma'am. Carter
>>>>>> could explain better if we had more time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: I remember when we were first trying to get
>>>>>> the Stargate to work, I would come here and just stare at it for hours.
>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: Is that a-a gentle reminder that you've been
>>>>>> an important part of this since the very beginning?
>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Subtle, huh?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      [Bra'tac comes to the SGC]
>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: This is Dr. Elizabeth Weir. She's the new
>>>>>> leader of this facility.
>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: [extends her hand] Hello.
>>>>>>      Master Bra'tac: [concerned] Has Hammond of Texas fallen in battle?
>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: No, sir. He's-he's fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Colonel Jack O'Neill: Wanna glass? I can wash one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trivia: This episode (and Lost City: Part 2 (2004)) were adapted from
>>>>>> the script for the feature film Stargate 2.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think I knew that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> When this two-parter originally aired, each episode had individual
>>>>>> different on-screen guest- and end credits. The DVD-version of Lost
>>>>>> City part 1 & 2 however is merged together into one 90-minute episode,
>>>>>> with combined on-screen credits for both parts. When these episodes
>>>>>> are syndicated today as separate episodes, sometimes the combined
>>>>>> on-screen guest credit run, thus crediting several actors for part 1,
>>>>>> that are only present in part 2. The IMDb credits reflect the original
>>>>>> separate credits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Commentary: Director Martin Wood, Amanda Tapping and Robert Cooper
>>>>>> (also speaking for Brad Wright).  The previous episode,
>>>>>> 'Inauguration', owes its existence to this script.  A clip show
>>>>>> episode was shot to save money for this episode's production.  "When
>>>>>> you get into the board room you don't want to be bored."  The
>>>>>> explanation for why they keep doing strange ways of shooting scenes in
>>>>>> the board room.  All the mythology and building on what happened on
>>>>>> previous episodes was carefully planned.  No, it wasn't.  "The
>>>>>> wonderful rich tapestry that makes it look like we knew what we were
>>>>>> doing." is how they describe it. Apparently one of the first things
>>>>>> General Jumper, the new Air Force Chief of Staff, asked his staff when
>>>>>> he assumed the position was "When do I get to be on 'Stargate'?"  :D
>>>>>> During the production of these last half-dozen or so episodes of the
>>>>>> season they were "borrowing" Second Units from other productions
>>>>>> because it was all such a jumbled mess due to RDA's availability.
>>>>>> This was also the biggest budget since the pilot.  (At least up to
>>>>>> this point.)  This was also expected to be the series finale.  This
>>>>>> was also my nemesis's final episode as the FX Producer.  Bye James
>>>>>> Tichenor!  :P  (He does come back in season 10 for a couple of
>>>>>> episodes as an uncredited compositor.  Whatever that is.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What Did You Watch?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you going to watch Atlantis too?
>>>>>
>>>> No, I did screencaps of Atlantis some years ago so after SG-1 and its
>>>> two movies I will cap Universe. Part of a mega-capping project.
>>>>
>>>>> Recently it was announced a direct to video Babylon 5 movie was coming
>>>>> out.  I had plans to watch a few episodes of B5 I have on DVD then watch
>>>>> the movie.  But now they've announced B5 is getting a full series
>>>>> upgrade on blu-ray.  So now I'm pretty sure I'm going to get the blu-ray
>>>>> box set and watch most, if not all of the series again.  I haven't
>>>>> watched the series in forever, but I think it will be fun to revisit it
>>>>> again.  I'll probably try to do what you're doing and watch a couple of
>>>>> episodes each day.
>>>>>
>>>> I re-watched (and capped) B5 not long ago and I've already pre-ordered
>>>> the disc of the animated movie. Ships August 15. :D
>>>>
>>>
>>> Did you screen cap Babylon 5 in 4:3 or 16:9? They did some really ghastly
>>> stuff to it to reformat to widescreen.
>>>
>> 854x480. So 16:9. *shrug* Its what the DVDs were.
>>
>
> Yeah, they didn’t have widescreen of the CGI and they had apparently lost
> the files but the live action had been shot for wide screen and they
> decided to re-composite it so it’s all wrong.
>
> Add that to the list of what compositors do.
>
I think you meant "Add compositors to the list of people who screw
things up in Hollywood."

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> On 7/21/2023 9:37 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>> On 7/21/2023 6:17 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/20/2023 7:35 PM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/20/2023 8:59 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>>>>> What Did You Watch? 2023-07-18/19 (Tuesday/Wednesday)
>>>>>>> 2 day catch-up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stargate: SG-1 S7E20 'Inauguration' - DVD
>>>>>>> "On his very first day on the job, newly elected President Henry Hayes
>>>>>>> is briefed by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General
>>>>>>> Francis Maynard, on the Stargate program. Amazed as he is with the
>>>>>>> existence of the program, he's downright angry at hearing that the new
>>>>>>> Vice President, Robert Kinsey, has known about the project for years.
>>>>>>> Kinsey warns him that the program is in dangerous hands and is
>>>>>>> obviously out to take control of the program himself. The President is
>>>>>>> his own man however and wants evidence before making any decision.
>>>>>>> Richard Woolsey is brought in to lay out a case for shaking up the SGC."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> President Hayes: Now I have to call the ex-president of Togo. And when
>>>>>>> I'm done, apparently, the rest of the world is coming to an end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: You can't possibly be taking their
>>>>>>> side.
>>>>>>>      President Hayes: I need time to absorb this, Bob.
>>>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: We may not have much time. The
>>>>>>> longer those people...
>>>>>>>      President Hayes: Relax. All I'm saying is, at the moment, I'm
>>>>>>> giving them the benefit of the doubt. I need to know more.
>>>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: I think you know all you need to
>>>>>>> know, and that includes why you're here.
>>>>>>>      President Hayes: I'm here, Bob, because the people of this nation
>>>>>>> elected me to run their country, not the whole damn galaxy... and this
>>>>>>> is my office, Bob, not yours, no matter what you may think you did to
>>>>>>> make this happen, and don't you ever, for one second, forget that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don't let the suit fool you.  We're going to fight."  :-)
>>>>>> I liked this President.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Character Error: General Francis Maynard refers to Robert Kinsey as
>>>>>>> "Senator Kinsey". By this stage he is, of course, the Vice President
>>>>>>> and thus is no longer a Senator.
>>>>>>> (Personally I think it was a deliberate insult.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Definitely deliberate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trivia: As President Hayes is walking down the hall towards the Oval
>>>>>>> Office, on his first day, he stops to look at several historical
>>>>>>> busts. While looking at the last one, a bust of President John F.
>>>>>>> Kennedy, he bends down to take a long look at it and then stands up
>>>>>>> and adjusts his tie while looking at a mirror. William Devane played
>>>>>>> President Kennedy in The Missiles of October (1974).
>>>>>>> The Oval Office set used for episodes #7.20 "Inaguration" and #7.21/22
>>>>>>> "The Lost City" is the same one used in the motion picture X2: X-Men
>>>>>>> United (2003).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This was a "clip show".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I figured as much.  The production number was a huge clue they were
>>>>>> saving their money for a big budget finale.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Commentary: Peter Woeste (Director and DP) and Exec Producer Michael
>>>>>>> Greenburg.  The Oval Office set was built in a former car dealership.
>>>>>>> Appropriate place for many former Presidents.  :)  The new footage was
>>>>>>> shot in four days.  They say the episode 'Grace' set ratings records
>>>>>>> for both the show and Sci-Fi Network up to this point in time.  I'm
>>>>>>> impressed that the commentators in all these commentaries, not just
>>>>>>> this one, are able to identify the episode titles clips are from and
>>>>>>> that certain events took place in quickly and apparently easily.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stargate: SG-1 S7E21 'Lost City'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Cough. Backdoor pilot.  Cough.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - DVD
>>>>>>> "Daniel thinks he may have found the location of another Ancients'
>>>>>>> library and SG-1 set off to investigate. They know how to download the
>>>>>>> information - into a human mind - but are also aware that when O'Neill
>>>>>>> did this once before, he nearly died and was saved only by the Asgard.
>>>>>>> Nonetheless he steps up again knowing the consequences. The effect of
>>>>>>> downloading the library will take a few days to show effects and
>>>>>>> members of the team visit him at home along with General Hammond who
>>>>>>> has important news for them: he's been relieved of command. Back in
>>>>>>> Washington, the President has recruited Dr. Elizabeth Weir, a noted
>>>>>>> international negotiator, to run SGC. Vice President Kinsey let's her
>>>>>>> know that he expects her to take orders from him. Weir arrives at the
>>>>>>> SGC with news that all off-world activity is shut down for 3 months
>>>>>>> while the program is reviewed. This just as Master Bra'tac arrives to
>>>>>>> tell them Anubis will be attacking the Earth in three days time."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Major Samantha Carter: [Daniel suspects that Jack has just
>>>>>>> completed a crossword puzzle using the Ancient's language, and Sam is
>>>>>>> studying it] The clue for 7 down is 'celestial body', and he wrote
>>>>>>> 'Uma Thurman'.
>>>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: [in a content voice, smiling] Yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Teal'c's like one of the deepest people I
>>>>>>> know. I mean, he's *so* deep. Go on, t-tell them how deep you are!
>>>>>>> You'll be lucky if you understand this.
>>>>>>>      Teal'c: [lifts one eyebrow] My depth is immaterial to this
>>>>>>> conversation.
>>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Ooh! See?
>>>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: No more beer for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: I understand time is short.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In more ways than one.  This actress was replaced wasn't she?  Did they
>>>>>> mention on the commentary why they swapped actresses?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, Jessica Steen was replaced with Torri Higginson in the next
>>>>> episode, the season 8 premiere. No, nothing in the commentary of this
>>>>> or S8E01 (which I just finished watching) about why.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: Actually, it's all relative, ma'am. Carter
>>>>>>> could explain better if we had more time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: I remember when we were first trying to get
>>>>>>> the Stargate to work, I would come here and just stare at it for hours.
>>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: Is that a-a gentle reminder that you've been
>>>>>>> an important part of this since the very beginning?
>>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Subtle, huh?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      [Bra'tac comes to the SGC]
>>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: This is Dr. Elizabeth Weir. She's the new
>>>>>>> leader of this facility.
>>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: [extends her hand] Hello.
>>>>>>>      Master Bra'tac: [concerned] Has Hammond of Texas fallen in battle?
>>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: No, sir. He's-he's fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Colonel Jack O'Neill: Wanna glass? I can wash one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trivia: This episode (and Lost City: Part 2 (2004)) were adapted from
>>>>>>> the script for the feature film Stargate 2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think I knew that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When this two-parter originally aired, each episode had individual
>>>>>>> different on-screen guest- and end credits. The DVD-version of Lost
>>>>>>> City part 1 & 2 however is merged together into one 90-minute episode,
>>>>>>> with combined on-screen credits for both parts. When these episodes
>>>>>>> are syndicated today as separate episodes, sometimes the combined
>>>>>>> on-screen guest credit run, thus crediting several actors for part 1,
>>>>>>> that are only present in part 2. The IMDb credits reflect the original
>>>>>>> separate credits.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Commentary: Director Martin Wood, Amanda Tapping and Robert Cooper
>>>>>>> (also speaking for Brad Wright).  The previous episode,
>>>>>>> 'Inauguration', owes its existence to this script.  A clip show
>>>>>>> episode was shot to save money for this episode's production.  "When
>>>>>>> you get into the board room you don't want to be bored."  The
>>>>>>> explanation for why they keep doing strange ways of shooting scenes in
>>>>>>> the board room.  All the mythology and building on what happened on
>>>>>>> previous episodes was carefully planned.  No, it wasn't.  "The
>>>>>>> wonderful rich tapestry that makes it look like we knew what we were
>>>>>>> doing." is how they describe it. Apparently one of the first things
>>>>>>> General Jumper, the new Air Force Chief of Staff, asked his staff when
>>>>>>> he assumed the position was "When do I get to be on 'Stargate'?"  :D
>>>>>>> During the production of these last half-dozen or so episodes of the
>>>>>>> season they were "borrowing" Second Units from other productions
>>>>>>> because it was all such a jumbled mess due to RDA's availability.
>>>>>>> This was also the biggest budget since the pilot.  (At least up to
>>>>>>> this point.)  This was also expected to be the series finale.  This
>>>>>>> was also my nemesis's final episode as the FX Producer.  Bye James
>>>>>>> Tichenor!  :P  (He does come back in season 10 for a couple of
>>>>>>> episodes as an uncredited compositor.  Whatever that is.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What Did You Watch?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you going to watch Atlantis too?
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, I did screencaps of Atlantis some years ago so after SG-1 and its
>>>>> two movies I will cap Universe. Part of a mega-capping project.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Recently it was announced a direct to video Babylon 5 movie was coming
>>>>>> out.  I had plans to watch a few episodes of B5 I have on DVD then watch
>>>>>> the movie.  But now they've announced B5 is getting a full series
>>>>>> upgrade on blu-ray.  So now I'm pretty sure I'm going to get the blu-ray
>>>>>> box set and watch most, if not all of the series again.  I haven't
>>>>>> watched the series in forever, but I think it will be fun to revisit it
>>>>>> again.  I'll probably try to do what you're doing and watch a couple of
>>>>>> episodes each day.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I re-watched (and capped) B5 not long ago and I've already pre-ordered
>>>>> the disc of the animated movie. Ships August 15. :D
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you screen cap Babylon 5 in 4:3 or 16:9? They did some really ghastly
>>>> stuff to it to reformat to widescreen.
>>>>
>>> 854x480. So 16:9. *shrug* Its what the DVDs were.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, they didn’t have widescreen of the CGI and they had apparently lost
>> the files but the live action had been shot for wide screen and they
>> decided to re-composite it so it’s all wrong.
>>
>> Add that to the list of what compositors do.
>>
> I think you meant "Add compositors to the list of people who screw
> things up in Hollywood."
>

On 7/21/2023 11:37 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>> On 7/21/2023 9:37 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>> On 7/21/2023 6:17 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/20/2023 7:35 PM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/20/2023 8:59 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>>>>>> What Did You Watch? 2023-07-18/19 (Tuesday/Wednesday)
>>>>>>>> 2 day catch-up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stargate: SG-1 S7E20 'Inauguration' - DVD
>>>>>>>> "On his very first day on the job, newly elected President Henry Hayes
>>>>>>>> is briefed by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General
>>>>>>>> Francis Maynard, on the Stargate program. Amazed as he is with the
>>>>>>>> existence of the program, he's downright angry at hearing that the new
>>>>>>>> Vice President, Robert Kinsey, has known about the project for years.
>>>>>>>> Kinsey warns him that the program is in dangerous hands and is
>>>>>>>> obviously out to take control of the program himself. The President is
>>>>>>>> his own man however and wants evidence before making any decision.
>>>>>>>> Richard Woolsey is brought in to lay out a case for shaking up the SGC."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> President Hayes: Now I have to call the ex-president of Togo. And when
>>>>>>>> I'm done, apparently, the rest of the world is coming to an end.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: You can't possibly be taking their
>>>>>>>> side.
>>>>>>>>      President Hayes: I need time to absorb this, Bob.
>>>>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: We may not have much time. The
>>>>>>>> longer those people...
>>>>>>>>      President Hayes: Relax. All I'm saying is, at the moment, I'm
>>>>>>>> giving them the benefit of the doubt. I need to know more.
>>>>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: I think you know all you need to
>>>>>>>> know, and that includes why you're here.
>>>>>>>>      President Hayes: I'm here, Bob, because the people of this nation
>>>>>>>> elected me to run their country, not the whole damn galaxy... and this
>>>>>>>> is my office, Bob, not yours, no matter what you may think you did to
>>>>>>>> make this happen, and don't you ever, for one second, forget that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don't let the suit fool you.  We're going to fight."  :-)
>>>>>>> I liked this President.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Character Error: General Francis Maynard refers to Robert Kinsey as
>>>>>>>> "Senator Kinsey". By this stage he is, of course, the Vice President
>>>>>>>> and thus is no longer a Senator.
>>>>>>>> (Personally I think it was a deliberate insult.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Definitely deliberate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trivia: As President Hayes is walking down the hall towards the Oval
>>>>>>>> Office, on his first day, he stops to look at several historical
>>>>>>>> busts. While looking at the last one, a bust of President John F.
>>>>>>>> Kennedy, he bends down to take a long look at it and then stands up
>>>>>>>> and adjusts his tie while looking at a mirror. William Devane played
>>>>>>>> President Kennedy in The Missiles of October (1974).
>>>>>>>> The Oval Office set used for episodes #7.20 "Inaguration" and #7.21/22
>>>>>>>> "The Lost City" is the same one used in the motion picture X2: X-Men
>>>>>>>> United (2003).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This was a "clip show".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I figured as much.  The production number was a huge clue they were
>>>>>>> saving their money for a big budget finale.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Commentary: Peter Woeste (Director and DP) and Exec Producer Michael
>>>>>>>> Greenburg.  The Oval Office set was built in a former car dealership.
>>>>>>>> Appropriate place for many former Presidents.  :)  The new footage was
>>>>>>>> shot in four days.  They say the episode 'Grace' set ratings records
>>>>>>>> for both the show and Sci-Fi Network up to this point in time.  I'm
>>>>>>>> impressed that the commentators in all these commentaries, not just
>>>>>>>> this one, are able to identify the episode titles clips are from and
>>>>>>>> that certain events took place in quickly and apparently easily.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stargate: SG-1 S7E21 'Lost City'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Cough. Backdoor pilot.  Cough.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - DVD
>>>>>>>> "Daniel thinks he may have found the location of another Ancients'
>>>>>>>> library and SG-1 set off to investigate. They know how to download the
>>>>>>>> information - into a human mind - but are also aware that when O'Neill
>>>>>>>> did this once before, he nearly died and was saved only by the Asgard.
>>>>>>>> Nonetheless he steps up again knowing the consequences. The effect of
>>>>>>>> downloading the library will take a few days to show effects and
>>>>>>>> members of the team visit him at home along with General Hammond who
>>>>>>>> has important news for them: he's been relieved of command. Back in
>>>>>>>> Washington, the President has recruited Dr. Elizabeth Weir, a noted
>>>>>>>> international negotiator, to run SGC. Vice President Kinsey let's her
>>>>>>>> know that he expects her to take orders from him. Weir arrives at the
>>>>>>>> SGC with news that all off-world activity is shut down for 3 months
>>>>>>>> while the program is reviewed. This just as Master Bra'tac arrives to
>>>>>>>> tell them Anubis will be attacking the Earth in three days time."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      Major Samantha Carter: [Daniel suspects that Jack has just
>>>>>>>> completed a crossword puzzle using the Ancient's language, and Sam is
>>>>>>>> studying it] The clue for 7 down is 'celestial body', and he wrote
>>>>>>>> 'Uma Thurman'.
>>>>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: [in a content voice, smiling] Yes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Teal'c's like one of the deepest people I
>>>>>>>> know. I mean, he's *so* deep. Go on, t-tell them how deep you are!
>>>>>>>> You'll be lucky if you understand this.
>>>>>>>>      Teal'c: [lifts one eyebrow] My depth is immaterial to this
>>>>>>>> conversation.
>>>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Ooh! See?
>>>>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: No more beer for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: I understand time is short.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In more ways than one.  This actress was replaced wasn't she?  Did they
>>>>>>> mention on the commentary why they swapped actresses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, Jessica Steen was replaced with Torri Higginson in the next
>>>>>> episode, the season 8 premiere. No, nothing in the commentary of this
>>>>>> or S8E01 (which I just finished watching) about why.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: Actually, it's all relative, ma'am. Carter
>>>>>>>> could explain better if we had more time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: I remember when we were first trying to get
>>>>>>>> the Stargate to work, I would come here and just stare at it for hours.
>>>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: Is that a-a gentle reminder that you've been
>>>>>>>> an important part of this since the very beginning?
>>>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Subtle, huh?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      [Bra'tac comes to the SGC]
>>>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: This is Dr. Elizabeth Weir. She's the new
>>>>>>>> leader of this facility.
>>>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: [extends her hand] Hello.
>>>>>>>>      Master Bra'tac: [concerned] Has Hammond of Texas fallen in battle?
>>>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: No, sir. He's-he's fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Colonel Jack O'Neill: Wanna glass? I can wash one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trivia: This episode (and Lost City: Part 2 (2004)) were adapted from
>>>>>>>> the script for the feature film Stargate 2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think I knew that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When this two-parter originally aired, each episode had individual
>>>>>>>> different on-screen guest- and end credits. The DVD-version of Lost
>>>>>>>> City part 1 & 2 however is merged together into one 90-minute episode,
>>>>>>>> with combined on-screen credits for both parts. When these episodes
>>>>>>>> are syndicated today as separate episodes, sometimes the combined
>>>>>>>> on-screen guest credit run, thus crediting several actors for part 1,
>>>>>>>> that are only present in part 2. The IMDb credits reflect the original
>>>>>>>> separate credits.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Commentary: Director Martin Wood, Amanda Tapping and Robert Cooper
>>>>>>>> (also speaking for Brad Wright).  The previous episode,
>>>>>>>> 'Inauguration', owes its existence to this script.  A clip show
>>>>>>>> episode was shot to save money for this episode's production.  "When
>>>>>>>> you get into the board room you don't want to be bored."  The
>>>>>>>> explanation for why they keep doing strange ways of shooting scenes in
>>>>>>>> the board room.  All the mythology and building on what happened on
>>>>>>>> previous episodes was carefully planned.  No, it wasn't.  "The
>>>>>>>> wonderful rich tapestry that makes it look like we knew what we were
>>>>>>>> doing." is how they describe it. Apparently one of the first things
>>>>>>>> General Jumper, the new Air Force Chief of Staff, asked his staff when
>>>>>>>> he assumed the position was "When do I get to be on 'Stargate'?"  :D
>>>>>>>> During the production of these last half-dozen or so episodes of the
>>>>>>>> season they were "borrowing" Second Units from other productions
>>>>>>>> because it was all such a jumbled mess due to RDA's availability.
>>>>>>>> This was also the biggest budget since the pilot.  (At least up to
>>>>>>>> this point.)  This was also expected to be the series finale.  This
>>>>>>>> was also my nemesis's final episode as the FX Producer.  Bye James
>>>>>>>> Tichenor!  :P  (He does come back in season 10 for a couple of
>>>>>>>> episodes as an uncredited compositor.  Whatever that is.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What Did You Watch?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you going to watch Atlantis too?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I did screencaps of Atlantis some years ago so after SG-1 and its
>>>>>> two movies I will cap Universe. Part of a mega-capping project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recently it was announced a direct to video Babylon 5 movie was coming
>>>>>>> out.  I had plans to watch a few episodes of B5 I have on DVD then watch
>>>>>>> the movie.  But now they've announced B5 is getting a full series
>>>>>>> upgrade on blu-ray.  So now I'm pretty sure I'm going to get the blu-ray
>>>>>>> box set and watch most, if not all of the series again.  I haven't
>>>>>>> watched the series in forever, but I think it will be fun to revisit it
>>>>>>> again.  I'll probably try to do what you're doing and watch a couple of
>>>>>>> episodes each day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I re-watched (and capped) B5 not long ago and I've already pre-ordered
>>>>>> the disc of the animated movie. Ships August 15. :D
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you screen cap Babylon 5 in 4:3 or 16:9? They did some really ghastly
>>>>> stuff to it to reformat to widescreen.
>>>>>
>>>> 854x480. So 16:9. *shrug* Its what the DVDs were.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, they didn’t have widescreen of the CGI and they had apparently lost
>>> the files but the live action had been shot for wide screen and they
>>> decided to re-composite it so it’s all wrong.
>>>
>>> Add that to the list of what compositors do.
>>>
>> I think you meant "Add compositors to the list of people who screw
>> things up in Hollywood."
>>
>
> Mostly because of the producers though. When compositors really screwed up,
> it’s because they’ve been given the wrong materials.
>
Or were given the right materials but followed the producers' instructions.

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> On 7/21/2023 11:37 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>> On 7/21/2023 9:37 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/21/2023 6:17 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/20/2023 7:35 PM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/20/2023 8:59 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>>>>>>> What Did You Watch? 2023-07-18/19 (Tuesday/Wednesday)
>>>>>>>>> 2 day catch-up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stargate: SG-1 S7E20 'Inauguration' - DVD
>>>>>>>>> "On his very first day on the job, newly elected President Henry Hayes
>>>>>>>>> is briefed by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General
>>>>>>>>> Francis Maynard, on the Stargate program. Amazed as he is with the
>>>>>>>>> existence of the program, he's downright angry at hearing that the new
>>>>>>>>> Vice President, Robert Kinsey, has known about the project for years.
>>>>>>>>> Kinsey warns him that the program is in dangerous hands and is
>>>>>>>>> obviously out to take control of the program himself. The President is
>>>>>>>>> his own man however and wants evidence before making any decision.
>>>>>>>>> Richard Woolsey is brought in to lay out a case for shaking up the SGC."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> President Hayes: Now I have to call the ex-president of Togo. And when
>>>>>>>>> I'm done, apparently, the rest of the world is coming to an end.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: You can't possibly be taking their
>>>>>>>>> side.
>>>>>>>>>      President Hayes: I need time to absorb this, Bob.
>>>>>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: We may not have much time. The
>>>>>>>>> longer those people...
>>>>>>>>>      President Hayes: Relax. All I'm saying is, at the moment, I'm
>>>>>>>>> giving them the benefit of the doubt. I need to know more.
>>>>>>>>>      Vice President Robert Kinsey: I think you know all you need to
>>>>>>>>> know, and that includes why you're here.
>>>>>>>>>      President Hayes: I'm here, Bob, because the people of this nation
>>>>>>>>> elected me to run their country, not the whole damn galaxy... and this
>>>>>>>>> is my office, Bob, not yours, no matter what you may think you did to
>>>>>>>>> make this happen, and don't you ever, for one second, forget that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don't let the suit fool you.  We're going to fight."  :-)
>>>>>>>> I liked this President.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Character Error: General Francis Maynard refers to Robert Kinsey as
>>>>>>>>> "Senator Kinsey". By this stage he is, of course, the Vice President
>>>>>>>>> and thus is no longer a Senator.
>>>>>>>>> (Personally I think it was a deliberate insult.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Definitely deliberate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trivia: As President Hayes is walking down the hall towards the Oval
>>>>>>>>> Office, on his first day, he stops to look at several historical
>>>>>>>>> busts. While looking at the last one, a bust of President John F.
>>>>>>>>> Kennedy, he bends down to take a long look at it and then stands up
>>>>>>>>> and adjusts his tie while looking at a mirror. William Devane played
>>>>>>>>> President Kennedy in The Missiles of October (1974).
>>>>>>>>> The Oval Office set used for episodes #7.20 "Inaguration" and #7.21/22
>>>>>>>>> "The Lost City" is the same one used in the motion picture X2: X-Men
>>>>>>>>> United (2003).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This was a "clip show".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I figured as much.  The production number was a huge clue they were
>>>>>>>> saving their money for a big budget finale.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Commentary: Peter Woeste (Director and DP) and Exec Producer Michael
>>>>>>>>> Greenburg.  The Oval Office set was built in a former car dealership.
>>>>>>>>> Appropriate place for many former Presidents.  :)  The new footage was
>>>>>>>>> shot in four days.  They say the episode 'Grace' set ratings records
>>>>>>>>> for both the show and Sci-Fi Network up to this point in time.  I'm
>>>>>>>>> impressed that the commentators in all these commentaries, not just
>>>>>>>>> this one, are able to identify the episode titles clips are from and
>>>>>>>>> that certain events took place in quickly and apparently easily.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stargate: SG-1 S7E21 'Lost City'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Cough. Backdoor pilot.  Cough.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - DVD
>>>>>>>>> "Daniel thinks he may have found the location of another Ancients'
>>>>>>>>> library and SG-1 set off to investigate. They know how to download the
>>>>>>>>> information - into a human mind - but are also aware that when O'Neill
>>>>>>>>> did this once before, he nearly died and was saved only by the Asgard.
>>>>>>>>> Nonetheless he steps up again knowing the consequences. The effect of
>>>>>>>>> downloading the library will take a few days to show effects and
>>>>>>>>> members of the team visit him at home along with General Hammond who
>>>>>>>>> has important news for them: he's been relieved of command. Back in
>>>>>>>>> Washington, the President has recruited Dr. Elizabeth Weir, a noted
>>>>>>>>> international negotiator, to run SGC. Vice President Kinsey let's her
>>>>>>>>> know that he expects her to take orders from him. Weir arrives at the
>>>>>>>>> SGC with news that all off-world activity is shut down for 3 months
>>>>>>>>> while the program is reviewed. This just as Master Bra'tac arrives to
>>>>>>>>> tell them Anubis will be attacking the Earth in three days time."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      Major Samantha Carter: [Daniel suspects that Jack has just
>>>>>>>>> completed a crossword puzzle using the Ancient's language, and Sam is
>>>>>>>>> studying it] The clue for 7 down is 'celestial body', and he wrote
>>>>>>>>> 'Uma Thurman'.
>>>>>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: [in a content voice, smiling] Yes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Teal'c's like one of the deepest people I
>>>>>>>>> know. I mean, he's *so* deep. Go on, t-tell them how deep you are!
>>>>>>>>> You'll be lucky if you understand this.
>>>>>>>>>      Teal'c: [lifts one eyebrow] My depth is immaterial to this
>>>>>>>>> conversation.
>>>>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Ooh! See?
>>>>>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: No more beer for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: I understand time is short.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In more ways than one.  This actress was replaced wasn't she?  Did they
>>>>>>>> mention on the commentary why they swapped actresses?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, Jessica Steen was replaced with Torri Higginson in the next
>>>>>>> episode, the season 8 premiere. No, nothing in the commentary of this
>>>>>>> or S8E01 (which I just finished watching) about why.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      Colonel Jack O'Neill: Actually, it's all relative, ma'am. Carter
>>>>>>>>> could explain better if we had more time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: I remember when we were first trying to get
>>>>>>>>> the Stargate to work, I would come here and just stare at it for hours.
>>>>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: Is that a-a gentle reminder that you've been
>>>>>>>>> an important part of this since the very beginning?
>>>>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: Subtle, huh?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      [Bra'tac comes to the SGC]
>>>>>>>>>      Dr. Daniel Jackson: This is Dr. Elizabeth Weir. She's the new
>>>>>>>>> leader of this facility.
>>>>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: [extends her hand] Hello.
>>>>>>>>>      Master Bra'tac: [concerned] Has Hammond of Texas fallen in battle?
>>>>>>>>>      Dr. Elizabeth Weir: No, sir. He's-he's fine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Colonel Jack O'Neill: Wanna glass? I can wash one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trivia: This episode (and Lost City: Part 2 (2004)) were adapted from
>>>>>>>>> the script for the feature film Stargate 2.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't think I knew that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When this two-parter originally aired, each episode had individual
>>>>>>>>> different on-screen guest- and end credits. The DVD-version of Lost
>>>>>>>>> City part 1 & 2 however is merged together into one 90-minute episode,
>>>>>>>>> with combined on-screen credits for both parts. When these episodes
>>>>>>>>> are syndicated today as separate episodes, sometimes the combined
>>>>>>>>> on-screen guest credit run, thus crediting several actors for part 1,
>>>>>>>>> that are only present in part 2. The IMDb credits reflect the original
>>>>>>>>> separate credits.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Commentary: Director Martin Wood, Amanda Tapping and Robert Cooper
>>>>>>>>> (also speaking for Brad Wright).  The previous episode,
>>>>>>>>> 'Inauguration', owes its existence to this script.  A clip show
>>>>>>>>> episode was shot to save money for this episode's production.  "When
>>>>>>>>> you get into the board room you don't want to be bored."  The
>>>>>>>>> explanation for why they keep doing strange ways of shooting scenes in
>>>>>>>>> the board room.  All the mythology and building on what happened on
>>>>>>>>> previous episodes was carefully planned.  No, it wasn't.  "The
>>>>>>>>> wonderful rich tapestry that makes it look like we knew what we were
>>>>>>>>> doing." is how they describe it. Apparently one of the first things
>>>>>>>>> General Jumper, the new Air Force Chief of Staff, asked his staff when
>>>>>>>>> he assumed the position was "When do I get to be on 'Stargate'?"  :D
>>>>>>>>> During the production of these last half-dozen or so episodes of the
>>>>>>>>> season they were "borrowing" Second Units from other productions
>>>>>>>>> because it was all such a jumbled mess due to RDA's availability.
>>>>>>>>> This was also the biggest budget since the pilot.  (At least up to
>>>>>>>>> this point.)  This was also expected to be the series finale.  This
>>>>>>>>> was also my nemesis's final episode as the FX Producer.  Bye James
>>>>>>>>> Tichenor!  :P  (He does come back in season 10 for a couple of
>>>>>>>>> episodes as an uncredited compositor.  Whatever that is.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What Did You Watch?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you going to watch Atlantis too?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, I did screencaps of Atlantis some years ago so after SG-1 and its
>>>>>>> two movies I will cap Universe. Part of a mega-capping project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Recently it was announced a direct to video Babylon 5 movie was coming
>>>>>>>> out.  I had plans to watch a few episodes of B5 I have on DVD then watch
>>>>>>>> the movie.  But now they've announced B5 is getting a full series
>>>>>>>> upgrade on blu-ray.  So now I'm pretty sure I'm going to get the blu-ray
>>>>>>>> box set and watch most, if not all of the series again.  I haven't
>>>>>>>> watched the series in forever, but I think it will be fun to revisit it
>>>>>>>> again.  I'll probably try to do what you're doing and watch a couple of
>>>>>>>> episodes each day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I re-watched (and capped) B5 not long ago and I've already pre-ordered
>>>>>>> the disc of the animated movie. Ships August 15. :D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you screen cap Babylon 5 in 4:3 or 16:9? They did some really ghastly
>>>>>> stuff to it to reformat to widescreen.
>>>>>>
>>>>> 854x480. So 16:9. *shrug* Its what the DVDs were.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, they didn’t have widescreen of the CGI and they had apparently lost
>>>> the files but the live action had been shot for wide screen and they
>>>> decided to re-composite it so it’s all wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Add that to the list of what compositors do.
>>>>
>>> I think you meant "Add compositors to the list of people who screw
>>> things up in Hollywood."
>>>
>>
>> Mostly because of the producers though. When compositors really screwed up,
>> it’s because they’ve been given the wrong materials.
>>
> Or were given the right materials but followed the producers' instructions.
>

anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>> On 7/21/2023 6:17 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

>>>>>> On gaming night, I watched:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What did you watch?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, thanks for asking!
>>>>>
>>>>> STAR TREK STRANGE NEW WORLDS
>>>>> Newest episode reported on separately as well as a few ready room
>>>>> behind-the-scenes shows.
>>>>
>>>> Isn't hWill hWeaton on Ready Room?
>>>
>>> Unfortunately. I hate him so.
>>
>> I've been a fan of Wil Wheaton since before he was on TNG. The only
>> episodes of The Big Bang Theory I ever made it a point to watch were the
>> episodes that featured him. Although I'm sure I missed most of them.
>> The only regular cast member of TNG who I never saw at a convention is
>> Wil Wheaton. Several years back I was at a convention thrown by pretty
>> much the only company that was doing Star Trek conventions in the Bay
>> Area and I asked one of the main organizers about getting Wheaton to
>> attend a convention and he told that's not going to happen because there
>> was some sort of falling out and he won't do their conventions. Then a
>> few weeks ago I was at convention run by a different group and again
>> talking to one of the organizers and he was telling me about the guests
>> they were trying to bring for their next convention. He mentioned
>> Wheaton. I told him I'd love it if they could get him and he told me
>> he's been hearing that from a *lot* of people. You may not like him,
>> but he definitely has fans. :-)
>
>I liked him fine until recently when he started spewing venom on the
>Twitter before leaving it. I was glad it was after I watched all the
>ready room episodes for Picard.

Yeah, seeing him advocate for child genital mutilation was dissapointing.

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On Jul 20, 2023 at 8:46:18 AM PDT, "Arthur Lipscomb"
<arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> Barbie (theatrical) New fantasy movie starring Margot Robbie as
> "Stereotypical Barbie" and Ryan Gosling as "Ken." The premise is kind
> of hard to explain, especially without spoiling the second half of the
> movie which the trailers and commercials haven't revealed yet. All the
> advertising is just the first half of the movie. Things take a very
> unexpected turn during the second half. But the basic plot is there is
> the Barbie universe and the real world. The Barbie universe is
> populated by many different Barbies and Kens. They know they are all
> dolls being played with by children. Their world is perfect. But one
> day Margot Robbie's Barbie starts to have a bit of an existential crisis
> and starts having thoughts of death and other things a child's toy
> shouldn't be thinking. So she heads to the real world to find the
> source of her problems. Ken tags along since being her plus 1 is his
> reason for existing. This was a surprisingly good movie. I know
> nothing about the toy line. But much like the "Lego movie" and the
> "Josie and the Pussycats" movie the writers took something that on its'
> face lacks any real substance and used it to tell a very appealing and
> surprisingly more adult story. I think the movie will also work on two
> levels. For fans of the toy line I'm sure it was full of inside jokes
> and Easter eggs. But for people like me who know nothing about the
> toys, it was fun to watch all the "that was a real thing" mocking jokes
> that are throughout the movie. The movie goes after Mattel in ways you
> would not expect to see in a movie that was financed by Mattel. I also
> liked how the movie constantly broke the 4th wall, such as during one
> scene Robbie's Barbie breaks down and gives a speech about self
> acceptance and not being pretty, and as the camera zooms in on Robbie's
> beautiful face the narrator breaks in to say note to filmmakers don't
> cast Margot Robbie in this roll.

Ugh. You seem to have really liked this *waaaaay* better than I did. You know
any movie that uses the word "patriarchy" three dozen times is gonna suck.

This is like if THE SUPER MARIO BROS. movie was written by someone who not
only hated Mario and Luigi, but blamed them for highway fatalities, climate
change, and gorilla abuse while tossing in gratuitous Proust references.

In article <u9cqu5$33b2h$1@dont-email.me>, arthur@alum.calberkeley.org wrote:

>Recently it was announced a direct to video Babylon 5 movie was coming out.

Are you talking about the animated one? I thought that had been released
already and never heard about it.

>I had plans to watch a few episodes of B5 I have on DVD then watch
>the movie. But now they've announced B5 is getting a full series
>upgrade on blu-ray. So now I'm pretty sure I'm going to get the blu-ray
>box set and watch most, if not all of the series again. I haven't
>watched the series in forever, but I think it will be fun to revisit it
>again. I'll probably try to do what you're doing and watch a couple of
>episodes each day.

I did that fior awhile when it was on Comet TV but fell behind because I kept
missing days.

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