Enjoying my second-to-last 3-day weekend of the summer, I watched...:

Cruel Summer (Hulu) - Ep's #2.3 & 2.4.
The good news is that the show/season has picked up with these
episodes - at least they ratcheted up the tension here.
So this season is a little different than season #1, which was
legitimately set over three year (periods) - this one is set c. July
1999, c. Dec. 1999, and c. July 2000 - so just over "a year".
In Dec. 1999, the miserable scumbag older brother, Brent, gets
busted for recording the "sex tapes" when Isabella(? or was it Megan?)
turns him into the sheriff. This eventually sets conflict up between
Megan's mom (KaDee Strickland) and Luke's and Brent's dad (Paul Adelstein).
In July 2000, the sheriff seems to be closing on Megan as the
suspect of "Luke's murder" (which I still am convinced wasn't a murder
at all, and if so it will end up rendering all of season #2 a huge
contrivance...).

Strain 100 (Prime) - This 2020 zombie horror flick is about the last
thing Jemma Dallender ("I Spit on Your Grave 2") did - she did one other
film released 2020, and has appeared in nothing since. This one doesn't
even sport naked nudity from her.
It's also very obviously really low-budget - maybe Dallender could
see where the arc of her career was taking her, and decided to get the
heck out of the industry...
Anyway, the premise of this flick started me thinking that, with
some tweeks, this could actually be the really promising premise of a
better movie! - In this one, the concept is that some kind of "universal
flu vaccine" mutates and eventually turns everyone into "fast (violent)
zombies"! That's actually good (it's basically the "28 Days Later"
concept). But then they ruin it by turning away from "scientific
zombies" and back into "magical zombies" when they say that the infected
have to "die first" in order to become zombies - if they'd just left
this last bit out, they would have had something!
Part of this flick - the chase parts - are OK. But the show devolves
into too many "Lifeboat"-esque segments where the action slows down to
set up some character's death. The worst is the sequence in the dinner
with the "group of survivors" trope, though at least that's fairly early on.
Anyway, there's a decent concept in here, but this low-budget flick
didn't find it...

The Day (Prime) - This 2011 Canadian post-apocalyptic horror flick was a
lot better than "Strain 100", I thought.
Arthur and some others might hate it though, as it's filmed in
almost total 'black-and-white' (I think a few colors, like blue and
brown, come through a little bit - but the film is basically B&W).
The problem with this flick is that they never bother to explain
what the "apocalypse" was, or even when it happened - what we can gather
is that it has apparently killed most living things (they mention in
passing that no one has seen a bird in ages), so there is now a real
scarcity in regards to food. (Our group(tm) is also suffering a relative
shortage of ammunition...)
Anyway, a ragtag group of five (Dominic Monaghan (the leader), Shawn
Ashmore, Cory Hardrict, Ashley Bell, and Shannyn Sossamon) are searching
for shelter, as one of them (Hardict) is sick and it's about to rain.
They find a place - a (farm?)house, and wait out the rain. But it
turns out the house is a trap, set by one of the "clans", who apparently
trap people in farmhouses like this for cannibalistic purpose (yes -
it's *that* much of a "food resources scarcity" environment!).
Now they have to prepare to defend themselves from the onslaught of
the coming "clan".
More happens than just this, and there is a twist or two along the
way, but this is the gist.
I guess Ashley Bell wins the "acting" award here - she puts in what
I found to be the most compelling performance by far... And, hey!
Michael Eklund is in this! That's two movies with him in two days!!

Glasshouse (Freevee (via Prime)) - This 2021 film was maybe the most
interesting "post-apocalyptic" film of the list.
Oddly, it's South African, but I think most of the cast is actually
British - Jessica Alexander (star of the problematic film "A Banquet")
certainly is, though I guess co-star Anja Taljaard is actually South
African (if so, she fakes a British accent great!).
This film also had the funkiest premise - some airborne agent that
they call "The Shred" erases peoples' memories, and in the most severe
cases turns them into dementia-ridden near-zombies.
Like "The Day", this movie never bothers to explain where "The
Shred" came from, or how long it's been around. (By the end of the film,
it's clear that it's been around for (at least!) 2-3 generations.) If
so, that's highly problematic, as a chemical or even a biological agent
is unlikely to stick around this long, and even a naturally-occurring
bacteria or virus wouldn't be so prevalent for so long either...
Anyway, in this flick, an old woman, her 3 "daughters", and 1 "son",
hide out in a hermetically sealed arboretum/greenhouse, which keeps "The
Shred" at bay. However, the teen "son" has obviously been hit by it
anyway, and the eldest "daughter" (Alexander) is obviously suffering
some partial effects of The Shred. So basically, the old woman and the
middle daughter (Taljaard) run the show.
Soon enough, a man (Hilton Pelser) shows up, and Alexander's
character, as the "sentry" on duty, fails to kill him (as per their
"way"), and "brings him in" to the "glasshouse". This causes tension...
This was a decent enough film, but I would have really liked the
premise to have been fleshed out more. And the film in some respects is
really just ripping of "The Beguiled" (either version!).

And what did you watch?

On 8/27/23 8:49 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:

> Enjoying my second-to-last 3-day weekend of the summer, I watched...:
>
> Cruel Summer (Hulu) - Ep's #2.3 & 2.4.
>
> Strain 100 (Prime) - This 2020 zombie horror flick...
>
> The Day (Prime) - This 2011 Canadian post-apocalyptic horror flick...
>
> Glasshouse (Freevee (via Prime)) - This 2021 film...

Forgot one:

Vanished in Yosemite (Lifetime) - Insultingly, Lifetime said this was
"Inspired by true events." What palaver!! If somebody was pulling a
"Most Dangerous Game" with bows and crossbows in a U.S. national part,
we *all* would have heard about it!!
I'm not sure this was filmed at Yosemite - I am guessing it almost
certainly wasn't. But if it wasn't, the "process shots" were excellent,
as you could not easily tell that the "Yosemite backgrounds" were
"composite" shots. Beyond that, I can't figure out where this was filmed
- it wasn't British Columbia, so my guess is somewhere in California,
but not in Yosemite itself.
Anyway, I though "Disappearance in Yellowstone" was better than this
- woman's (Skye Coyne) slutty sister (Kelcie Stranahan) goes off hiking
with some random dude, and of course he's a bad dude and kidnaps here.
The woman (Coyne) then calls up her long-suffering ex (Jason Tobias) to
help her look for the missing sister.
And, of course, along the way, they are totally stymied in their
efforts by the authorities.
The setting was great. The story, and the "twist"?... Meh.
P.S. Tell Robin that I tried to submit this one to IMDb, as it's not
in there yet. (Last time I tried that though, somebody beat me to it,
and rather than merge the two entries, IMDb just rejected my submission,
undoing all of my hard work... >:/ )

> And what did you watch?

On 8/27/2023 8:49 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> Enjoying my second-to-last 3-day weekend of the summer, I watched...:
>
> Cruel Summer (Hulu) - Ep's #2.3 & 2.4.
>    The good news is that the show/season has picked up with these
> episodes - at least they ratcheted up the tension here.
>    So this season is a little different than season #1, which was
> legitimately set over three year (periods) - this one is set c. July
> 1999, c. Dec. 1999, and c. July 2000 - so just over "a year".
>    In Dec. 1999, the miserable scumbag older brother, Brent, gets
> busted for recording the "sex tapes" when Isabella(? or was it Megan?)
> turns him into the sheriff. This eventually sets conflict up between
> Megan's mom (KaDee Strickland) and Luke's and Brent's dad (Paul Adelstein).
>    In July 2000, the sheriff seems to be closing on Megan as the
> suspect of "Luke's murder" (which I still am convinced wasn't a murder
> at all, and if so it will end up rendering all of season #2 a huge
> contrivance...).
>
> Strain 100 (Prime) - This 2020 zombie horror flick is about the last
> thing Jemma Dallender ("I Spit on Your Grave 2") did - she did one other
> film released 2020, and has appeared in nothing since. This one doesn't
> even sport naked nudity from her.
>    It's also very obviously really low-budget - maybe Dallender could
> see where the arc of her career was taking her, and decided to get the
> heck out of the industry...
>    Anyway, the premise of this flick started me thinking that, with
> some tweeks, this could actually be the really promising premise of a
> better movie! - In this one, the concept is that some kind of "universal
> flu vaccine" mutates and eventually turns everyone into "fast (violent)
> zombies"! That's actually good (it's basically the "28 Days Later"
> concept). But then they ruin it by turning away from "scientific
> zombies" and back into "magical zombies" when they say that the infected
> have to "die first" in order to become zombies - if they'd just left
> this last bit out, they would have had something!
>    Part of this flick - the chase parts - are OK. But the show devolves
> into too many "Lifeboat"-esque segments where the action slows down to
> set up some character's death. The worst is the sequence in the dinner
> with the "group of survivors" trope, though at least that's fairly early
> on.
>    Anyway, there's a decent concept in here, but this low-budget flick
> didn't find it...
>
> The Day (Prime) - This 2011 Canadian post-apocalyptic horror flick was a
> lot better than "Strain 100", I thought.
>    Arthur and some others might hate it though, as it's filmed in
> almost total 'black-and-white' (I think a few colors, like blue and
> brown, come through a little bit - but the film is basically B&W).
>    The problem with this flick is that they never bother to explain
> what the "apocalypse" was, or even when it happened - what we can gather
> is that it has apparently killed most living things (they mention in
> passing that no one has seen a bird in ages), so there is now a real
> scarcity in regards to food. (Our group(tm) is also suffering a relative
> shortage of ammunition...)
>    Anyway, a ragtag group of five (Dominic Monaghan (the leader), Shawn
> Ashmore, Cory Hardrict, Ashley Bell, and Shannyn Sossamon) are searching
> for shelter, as one of them (Hardict) is sick and it's about to rain.
>    They find a place - a (farm?)house, and wait out the rain. But it
> turns out the house is a trap, set by one of the "clans", who apparently
> trap people in farmhouses like this for cannibalistic purpose (yes -
> it's *that* much of a "food resources scarcity" environment!).
>    Now they have to prepare to defend themselves from the onslaught of
> the coming "clan".
>    More happens than just this, and there is a twist or two along the
> way, but this is the gist.
>    I guess Ashley Bell wins the "acting" award here - she puts in what
> I found to be the most compelling performance by far... And, hey!
> Michael Eklund is in this! That's two movies with him in two days!!
>

Added to watch list, but this whole B&W nonsense is going to be a
problem. LOL

> Glasshouse (Freevee (via Prime)) - This 2021 film was maybe the most
> interesting "post-apocalyptic" film of the list.
>    Oddly, it's South African, but I think most of the cast is actually
> British - Jessica Alexander (star of the problematic film "A Banquet")
> certainly is, though I guess co-star Anja Taljaard is actually South
> African (if so, she fakes a British accent great!).
>    This film also had the funkiest premise - some airborne agent that
> they call "The Shred" erases peoples' memories, and in the most severe
> cases turns them into dementia-ridden near-zombies.
>    Like "The Day", this movie never bothers to explain where "The
> Shred" came from, or how long it's been around. (By the end of the film,
> it's clear that it's been around for (at least!) 2-3 generations.) If
> so, that's highly problematic, as a chemical or even a biological agent
> is unlikely to stick around this long, and even a naturally-occurring
> bacteria or virus wouldn't be so prevalent for so long either...
>    Anyway, in this flick, an old woman, her 3 "daughters", and 1 "son",
> hide out in a hermetically sealed arboretum/greenhouse, which keeps "The
> Shred" at bay. However, the teen "son" has obviously been hit by it
> anyway, and the eldest "daughter" (Alexander) is obviously suffering
> some partial effects of The Shred. So basically, the old woman and the
> middle daughter (Taljaard) run the show.
>    Soon enough, a man (Hilton Pelser) shows up, and Alexander's
> character, as the "sentry" on duty, fails to kill him (as per their
> "way"), and "brings him in" to the "glasshouse". This causes tension...
>    This was a decent enough film, but I would have really liked the
> premise to have been fleshed out more. And the film in some respects is
> really just ripping of "The Beguiled" (either version!).
>

Amazon says it's not available where I live. I should be able to stream
it from Freevee on my cable box, but I'll probably forget.

>
> And what did you watch?
>

I watched:

The Magnificent Seven (4K disc) 1960 Western directed by John Sturges
based on Akira Kurosawa's "Seven Samurai" but swaps out Samurai for
gunslingers who are hired to protect a group of farmers from outlaws.
For this movie they cast a group of unknown actors who would disappear
into obscurity including Yul Brynner as the gunslinger, Steve McQueen as
his second in command, with Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, and James
Coburn among the other stars who would never be heard from again. For
the villain they cast Eli Wallach, who on the commentary insisted his
character was the hero, in his own mind at least. The movie also has a
pretty good score. I know I've heard the score before, but I doubt if I
just heard it on its' own, I would have realized it was from this movie.
If anything, I probably would have thought it was from the remake
which reused bits of the famous score. I watched with the commentary of
cast and crew.

On the commentary James Coburn said Sturges wanted to reshoot a sequence
that the financiers liked as is, so he agreed to pay for it himself by
borrowing a million dollars against his home and as a result lost his
estate and never made a penny on the movie. Coburn also talked about
the original film which he loved and how they were all upset that there
was no way to translate the scene where the greatest swordsman in Japan
dies by gunshot. But he was very happy that he got to play the American
version of that character since that was his favorite character in the
original.

The Magnificent Seven (4K disc) 2016 Western directed by Antoine Fuqua
based on Akira Kurosawa's "Seven Samurai" but swaps out Samurai for
gunslingers who are hired to Equalize the situation after a robber baron
shows up and tries to take the town so he can mine nearby gold. Once
again there is an all-star cast with Denzel Washington taking over the
Yul Brynner role and chewing the scenery as only Denzel can! Chris
Pratt fills in for Steve McQueen with Ethan Hawk (Denzel's costar from
"Training Day" which Fuqua also directed), Vincent D'Onofrio, and
Byung-hun Lee helping to fill out the roster. For the villain they got
Peter Sarsgaard who is desperately trying to chew as much scenery as
Denzel as the mustache twirling villain.

Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

>Man on Fire (blu-ray) 2004 action movie directed by Tony Scott. Denzel
>Washington stars as a drunk ex- CIA agent hired as a bodyguard in Mexico
>to protect a young Dakota Fanning. After a kidnapping which
>hospitalizes him with several bullet hits, he wakes up to learn Fanning
>is dead after a failed money drop. With the blessing of Fanning's
>grieving mother, Denzel sets out to Equalize the situation by tracking
>down and brutally killing everyone involved in the kidnapping. Cops,
>pregnant women, don't matter. Denzel gets his vengeance on in this movie!

Hey! You forgot the most important part of the movie: Christopher
Walken's over-the-top narration!

A man can be an artist... in anything, food, whatever. It
depends on how good he is at it. Creasy's art is death. He's
about to paint his masterpiece.

I'm shocked you didn't watch the 1987 adaptation first! Tony Scott tried
to get hired to direct but lacked any experience!

I've never seen it.

On 8/27/2023 8:49 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>
> The Day (Prime) - This 2011 Canadian post-apocalyptic horror flick was a
> lot better than "Strain 100", I thought.
>    Arthur and some others might hate it though, as it's filmed in
> almost total 'black-and-white' (I think a few colors, like blue and
> brown, come through a little bit - but the film is basically B&W).
>    The problem with this flick is that they never bother to explain
> what the "apocalypse" was, or even when it happened - what we can gather
> is that it has apparently killed most living things (they mention in
> passing that no one has seen a bird in ages), so there is now a real
> scarcity in regards to food. (Our group(tm) is also suffering a relative
> shortage of ammunition...)
>    Anyway, a ragtag group of five (Dominic Monaghan (the leader), Shawn
> Ashmore, Cory Hardrict, Ashley Bell, and Shannyn Sossamon) are searching
> for shelter, as one of them (Hardict) is sick and it's about to rain.
>    They find a place - a (farm?)house, and wait out the rain. But it
> turns out the house is a trap, set by one of the "clans", who apparently
> trap people in farmhouses like this for cannibalistic purpose (yes -
> it's *that* much of a "food resources scarcity" environment!).
>    Now they have to prepare to defend themselves from the onslaught of
> the coming "clan".
>    More happens than just this, and there is a twist or two along the
> way, but this is the gist.
>    I guess Ashley Bell wins the "acting" award here - she puts in what
> I found to be the most compelling performance by far... And, hey!
> Michael Eklund is in this! That's two movies with him in two days!!
>
I watched this a while back. Its a really grim movie, almost as grim as
'The Road', a Viggo Mortensen post-apocalypse flick. The two movies
could even be set in the same universe. (Note for Arthur, basis of a
theme night for you!)

I watched....

Stargate SG-1 S10E08 'Memento Mori' (Disc)
"Vala is kidnapped by the Goa'uld dominated Trust while she is out for
dinner with Daniel. The Goa'uld Athena believes that Vala has embedded
in her memory a code that will allow her to decipher an ancient tablet.
While the Goa'uld probe her memories, SGC mounts a rescue mission and
Vala's memories are wiped clean. Not knowing who she is or where she's
come from she gets a job as a waitress in a diner. The SGC keep looking
for her but when they finally locate their friend and colleague, she has
no way to know if they're friends or enemies."

Lt. Colonel Cameron Mitchell: [shirtless and handcuffed to the bed,
surrounded by the junk food] This, uh... isn't what it looks like.

Lt. Col. Samantha Carter: A member of this facility gets kidnapped
unchallenged, it's no wonder he doesn't think we can protect him.
Dr. Daniel Jackson: But we can protect him.
Lt. Col. Samantha Carter: Yeah, by locking him away for the rest of
his life.
Lt. Colonel Cameron Mitchell: What can you say? There's a downside
to working for supervillains.

Lt. Colonel Cameron Mitchell: Okay, I think I've figured out what
happened to you, why you don't remember anything.
Vala Mal Doran: Oh, good. Does it involve an alien abduction?
Lt. Colonel Cameron Mitchell: Well, in as much as that you're an
alien who was abducted, yes.

Lt. Col. Samantha Carter: Nothin'. I just think it's funny how
you're always losing your pants.
Lt. Colonel Cameron Mitchell: I'm not always losing my pants. It's
happened twice. Twice is not always.

Trivia: Vala mentions watching re-runs of The X-Files (1993). It was
with this episode that Stargate SG-1 (1997) matched "The X-Files" as the
longest running North American science fiction series at that time.
"Memento mori" is a Latin phrase that translates to "remember [that] you
will die". It was a common practice among medieval Christians to
meditate and reflect on one's mortality in order to instill the belief
that life on Earth is supposed to be a stepping stone to something
larger, that all Earthly goods were just vain, temporary possessions
that would be lost upon death; and that they were to devote their study
and attention to the immorality of the soul and the afterlife. The
phrase is also used in art to describe artistic and symbolic reminders
of human mortality.

I wanna know, just WHAT did Teal'c whisper into the Trust operative's ear?

Commentary. Executive Producers Joseph Mallozzi and Paul Mullie, who
also happen to be the writers of this episode. If any fan disagrees
with the premise that an overloaded memory dredging machine will wipe
someone's memory they dare you to prove them wrong! Apparently all
actors are short except the SG-1 cast. Talk about director Peter
DeLuise's potty mouth and how in 'Ripple Effect' he started every shot &
scene in the brig with a close up of the toilet before panning up to the
actors. The EP/writers don't know what Teal'c said to the prisoner and
one of them doesn't even want to think about it. Vala licks her fingers
after meals a lot. "You would be surprised how many hotel beds are not
handcuff friendly." O_o Though one of the producers did find one in
Switzerland on a trip with his wife. o_O The key to a good stunt is
that it hurts. (Sadist.)

Last episode on this disc, so extras. BTS short about this episode,
"Stargate SG-1: Behind the 200th" and photo galleries.

What Did You Watch?

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

On 8/27/23 10:32 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

> On 8/27/2023 8:49 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>
>> The Day (Prime) - This 2011 Canadian post-apocalyptic horror flick was
>> a lot better than "Strain 100", I thought.
>>     Arthur and some others might hate it though, as it's filmed in
>> almost total 'black-and-white' (I think a few colors, like blue and
>> brown, come through a little bit - but the film is basically B&W).
>>     The problem with this flick is that they never bother to explain
>> what the "apocalypse" was, or even when it happened - what we can
>> gather is that it has apparently killed most living things (they
>> mention in passing that no one has seen a bird in ages), so there is
>> now a real scarcity in regards to food. (Our group(tm) is also
>> suffering a relative shortage of ammunition...)
>>     Anyway, a ragtag group of five (Dominic Monaghan (the leader),
>> Shawn Ashmore, Cory Hardrict, Ashley Bell, and Shannyn Sossamon) are
>> searching for shelter, as one of them (Hardict) is sick and it's about
>> to rain.
>>     They find a place - a (farm?)house, and wait out the rain. But it
>> turns out the house is a trap, set by one of the "clans", who
>> apparently trap people in farmhouses like this for cannibalistic
>> purpose (yes - it's *that* much of a "food resources scarcity"
>> environment!).
>>     Now they have to prepare to defend themselves from the onslaught
>> of the coming "clan".
>>     More happens than just this, and there is a twist or two along the
>> way, but this is the gist.
>>     I guess Ashley Bell wins the "acting" award here - she puts in
>> what I found to be the most compelling performance by far... And, hey!
>> Michael Eklund is in this! That's two movies with him in two days!!
>
> I watched this a while back.  Its a really grim movie, almost as grim as
> 'The Road', a Viggo Mortensen post-apocalypse flick.  The two movies
> could even be set in the same universe.  (Note for Arthur, basis of a
> theme night for you!)

"The Road" has been on my list for a long time, ever since my late
brother raved about it, but I have to be "in the mood" for it, so I
haven't watched it yet.

Honestly, if there had not been a new Lifetime movie on last night, I
might very well have watched "The Road" then.

In article <ucfvn5$18k83$1@dont-email.me>, Arthur Lipscomb
<arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

> I watched:
>
> The Magnificent Seven (4K disc) 1960 Western directed by John Sturges
> based on Akira Kurosawa's "Seven Samurai" but swaps out Samurai for
> gunslingers who are hired to protect a group of farmers from outlaws.
> For this movie they cast a group of unknown actors who would disappear
> into obscurity including Yul Brynner as the gunslinger, Steve McQueen as
> his second in command, with Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, and James
> Coburn among the other stars who would never be heard from again. For
> the villain they cast Eli Wallach, who on the commentary insisted his
> character was the hero, in his own mind at least. The movie also has a
> pretty good score. I know I've heard the score before, but I doubt if I
> just heard it on its' own, I would have realized it was from this movie.
> If anything, I probably would have thought it was from the remake
> which reused bits of the famous score. I watched with the commentary of
> cast and crew.

Some here were born after cigarette commercials were no longer allowed
on U.S. TV, but before then such ads ran all the time. Marlboro
cigarettes had long been considered a woman's brand; it was decided to
reposition it as male and macho in the '60s by filming all the TV ads
as mini-Westerns, with appropriate music and Marlboro Cowboys and so
on. That was all bullshit, of course. The thing about Marlboros was
that they came in a pack-sized box that survived surprisingly well in
your pocket. Marlboros also provided a heavy hit of nicotine, heavier
than most other brands.

On 8/27/2023 11:29 AM, A Friend wrote:
> In article <ucfvn5$18k83$1@dont-email.me>, Arthur Lipscomb
> <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>> I watched:
>>
>> The Magnificent Seven (4K disc) 1960 Western directed by John Sturges
>> based on Akira Kurosawa's "Seven Samurai" but swaps out Samurai for
>> gunslingers who are hired to protect a group of farmers from outlaws.
>> For this movie they cast a group of unknown actors who would disappear
>> into obscurity including Yul Brynner as the gunslinger, Steve McQueen as
>> his second in command, with Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, and James
>> Coburn among the other stars who would never be heard from again. For
>> the villain they cast Eli Wallach, who on the commentary insisted his
>> character was the hero, in his own mind at least. The movie also has a
>> pretty good score. I know I've heard the score before, but I doubt if I
>> just heard it on its' own, I would have realized it was from this movie.
>> If anything, I probably would have thought it was from the remake
>> which reused bits of the famous score. I watched with the commentary of
>> cast and crew.
>
>
> Some here were born after cigarette commercials were no longer allowed
> on U.S. TV, but before then such ads ran all the time. Marlboro
> cigarettes had long been considered a woman's brand; it was decided to
> reposition it as male and macho in the '60s by filming all the TV ads
> as mini-Westerns, with appropriate music and Marlboro Cowboys and so
> on. That was all bullshit, of course. The thing about Marlboros was
> that they came in a pack-sized box that survived surprisingly well in
> your pocket. Marlboros also provided a heavy hit of nicotine, heavier
> than most other brands.

I don't think I ever saw a cigarette commercial on TV, but I do remember
Yul Brunner's anti-cigarette commercials which started to run when I was
about 8 years old.

I was extremely anti smoking when I was a kid and absolutely hated that
my grandmother would force me to walk to the corner store and get
cigarettes for her. She's write a note for me to show the cashier. I
was probably even more upset with the sales people who would sale the
cigarettes to a child.

On 8/27/2023 10:17 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>> Man on Fire (blu-ray) 2004 action movie directed by Tony Scott. Denzel
>> Washington stars as a drunk ex- CIA agent hired as a bodyguard in Mexico
>> to protect a young Dakota Fanning. After a kidnapping which
>> hospitalizes him with several bullet hits, he wakes up to learn Fanning
>> is dead after a failed money drop. With the blessing of Fanning's
>> grieving mother, Denzel sets out to Equalize the situation by tracking
>> down and brutally killing everyone involved in the kidnapping. Cops,
>> pregnant women, don't matter. Denzel gets his vengeance on in this movie!
>
> Hey! You forgot the most important part of the movie: Christopher
> Walken's over-the-top narration!
>
> A man can be an artist... in anything, food, whatever. It
> depends on how good he is at it. Creasy's art is death. He's
> about to paint his masterpiece.
>
> I'm shocked you didn't watch the 1987 adaptation first! Tony Scott tried
> to get hired to direct but lacked any experience!
>
> I've never seen it.

I don't think I've seen it either. Netflix doesn't have it. So the
only way I would have seen it is if it aired on cable at some point.

On 8/27/23 12:13 PM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:

> On 8/27/2023 10:17 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Man on Fire (blu-ray) 2004 action movie directed by Tony Scott.  Denzel
>>> Washington stars as a drunk ex- CIA agent hired as a bodyguard in Mexico
>>> to protect a young Dakota Fanning.  After a kidnapping which
>>> hospitalizes him with several bullet hits, he wakes up to learn Fanning
>>> is dead after a failed money drop.  With the blessing of Fanning's
>>> grieving mother, Denzel sets out to Equalize the situation by tracking
>>> down and brutally killing everyone involved in the kidnapping.  Cops,
>>> pregnant women, don't matter.  Denzel gets his vengeance on in this
>>> movie!
>>
>> Hey! You forgot the most important part of the movie: Christopher
>> Walken's over-the-top narration!
>>
>>     A man can be an artist... in anything, food, whatever. It
>>     depends on how good he is at it. Creasy's art is death. He's
>>     about to paint his masterpiece.
>>
>> I'm shocked you didn't watch the 1987 adaptation first! Tony Scott tried
>> to get hired to direct but lacked any experience!
>>
>> I've never seen it.
>
> I don't think I've seen it either.  Netflix doesn't have it.  So the
> only way I would have seen it is if it aired on cable at some point.

The 1987 "Man on Fire" is currently locked up by Starz (according to
JustWatch) - so if you have Starz, you can watch it.

Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>On 8/27/23 12:13 PM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>On 8/27/2023 10:17 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

>>>>Man on Fire (blu-ray) 2004 action movie directed by Tony Scott. Denzel
>>>>Washington stars as a drunk ex- CIA agent hired as a bodyguard in Mexico
>>>>to protect a young Dakota Fanning. After a kidnapping which
>>>>hospitalizes him with several bullet hits, he wakes up to learn Fanning
>>>>is dead after a failed money drop. With the blessing of Fanning's
>>>>grieving mother, Denzel sets out to Equalize the situation by tracking
>>>>down and brutally killing everyone involved in the kidnapping. Cops,
>>>>pregnant women, don't matter. Denzel gets his vengeance on in this
>>>>movie!

>>>Hey! You forgot the most important part of the movie: Christopher
>>>Walken's over-the-top narration!

>>> A man can be an artist... in anything, food, whatever. It
>>> depends on how good he is at it. Creasy's art is death. He's
>>> about to paint his masterpiece.

>>>I'm shocked you didn't watch the 1987 adaptation first! Tony Scott tried
>>>to get hired to direct but lacked any experience!

>>>I've never seen it.

>>I don't think I've seen it either. Netflix doesn't have it. So the
>>only way I would have seen it is if it aired on cable at some point.

>The 1987 "Man on Fire" is currently locked up by Starz (according to
>JustWatch) - so if you have Starz, you can watch it.

Ian! Say it!

On 8/27/23 12:28 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
>> On 8/27/23 12:13 PM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>> On 8/27/2023 10:17 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>>>>> Man on Fire (blu-ray) 2004 action movie directed by Tony Scott. Denzel
>>>>> Washington stars as a drunk ex- CIA agent hired as a bodyguard in Mexico
>>>>> to protect a young Dakota Fanning. After a kidnapping which
>>>>> hospitalizes him with several bullet hits, he wakes up to learn Fanning
>>>>> is dead after a failed money drop. With the blessing of Fanning's
>>>>> grieving mother, Denzel sets out to Equalize the situation by tracking
>>>>> down and brutally killing everyone involved in the kidnapping. Cops,
>>>>> pregnant women, don't matter. Denzel gets his vengeance on in this
>>>>> movie!
>
>>>> Hey! You forgot the most important part of the movie: Christopher
>>>> Walken's over-the-top narration!
>
>>>> A man can be an artist... in anything, food, whatever. It
>>>> depends on how good he is at it. Creasy's art is death. He's
>>>> about to paint his masterpiece.
>
>>>> I'm shocked you didn't watch the 1987 adaptation first! Tony Scott tried
>>>> to get hired to direct but lacked any experience!
>
>>>> I've never seen it.
>
>>> I don't think I've seen it either. Netflix doesn't have it. So the
>>> only way I would have seen it is if it aired on cable at some point.
>
>> The 1987 "Man on Fire" is currently locked up by Starz (according to
>> JustWatch) - so if you have Starz, you can watch it.
>
> Ian! Say it!

Do I even need to?! ;p

In article <ucg6gk$19lqr$1@dont-email.me>, Arthur Lipscomb
<arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

> On 8/27/2023 11:29 AM, A Friend wrote:
> > In article <ucfvn5$18k83$1@dont-email.me>, Arthur Lipscomb
> > <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I watched:
> >>
> >> The Magnificent Seven (4K disc) 1960 Western directed by John Sturges
> >> based on Akira Kurosawa's "Seven Samurai" but swaps out Samurai for
> >> gunslingers who are hired to protect a group of farmers from outlaws.
> >> For this movie they cast a group of unknown actors who would disappear
> >> into obscurity including Yul Brynner as the gunslinger, Steve McQueen as
> >> his second in command, with Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, and James
> >> Coburn among the other stars who would never be heard from again. For
> >> the villain they cast Eli Wallach, who on the commentary insisted his
> >> character was the hero, in his own mind at least. The movie also has a
> >> pretty good score. I know I've heard the score before, but I doubt if I
> >> just heard it on its' own, I would have realized it was from this movie.
> >> If anything, I probably would have thought it was from the remake
> >> which reused bits of the famous score. I watched with the commentary of
> >> cast and crew.
> >
> >
> > Some here were born after cigarette commercials were no longer allowed
> > on U.S. TV, but before then such ads ran all the time. Marlboro
> > cigarettes had long been considered a woman's brand; it was decided to
> > reposition it as male and macho in the '60s by filming all the TV ads
> > as mini-Westerns, with appropriate music and Marlboro Cowboys and so
> > on. That was all bullshit, of course. The thing about Marlboros was
> > that they came in a pack-sized box that survived surprisingly well in
> > your pocket. Marlboros also provided a heavy hit of nicotine, heavier
> > than most other brands.
>
> I don't think I ever saw a cigarette commercial on TV, but I do remember
> Yul Brunner's anti-cigarette commercials which started to run when I was
> about 8 years old.
>
> I was extremely anti smoking when I was a kid and absolutely hated that
> my grandmother would force me to walk to the corner store and get
> cigarettes for her. She's write a note for me to show the cashier. I
> was probably even more upset with the sales people who would sale the
> cigarettes to a child.

Much the same here. My father would order me to go to the local deli
to get him two or three packs of "L&M filters inna box." I was ten or
so. He was too damn lazy to go himself, and I guess not quite bright
enough to buy enough packs to last him the entire weekend. Then again,
he didn't have to; he had all that free slave labor.

On one such occasion, I missed Lee Harvey Oswald being shot on live TV.

On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 18:23:28 -0400, A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:

>In article <ucg6gk$19lqr$1@dont-email.me>, Arthur Lipscomb
><arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>> On 8/27/2023 11:29 AM, A Friend wrote:
>> > In article <ucfvn5$18k83$1@dont-email.me>, Arthur Lipscomb
>> > <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I watched:
>> >>
>> >> The Magnificent Seven (4K disc) 1960 Western directed by John Sturges
>> >> based on Akira Kurosawa's "Seven Samurai" but swaps out Samurai for
>> >> gunslingers who are hired to protect a group of farmers from outlaws.
>> >> For this movie they cast a group of unknown actors who would disappear
>> >> into obscurity including Yul Brynner as the gunslinger, Steve McQueen as
>> >> his second in command, with Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, and James
>> >> Coburn among the other stars who would never be heard from again. For
>> >> the villain they cast Eli Wallach, who on the commentary insisted his
>> >> character was the hero, in his own mind at least. The movie also has a
>> >> pretty good score. I know I've heard the score before, but I doubt if I
>> >> just heard it on its' own, I would have realized it was from this movie.
>> >> If anything, I probably would have thought it was from the remake
>> >> which reused bits of the famous score. I watched with the commentary of
>> >> cast and crew.
>> >
>> >
>> > Some here were born after cigarette commercials were no longer allowed
>> > on U.S. TV, but before then such ads ran all the time. Marlboro
>> > cigarettes had long been considered a woman's brand; it was decided to
>> > reposition it as male and macho in the '60s by filming all the TV ads
>> > as mini-Westerns, with appropriate music and Marlboro Cowboys and so
>> > on. That was all bullshit, of course. The thing about Marlboros was
>> > that they came in a pack-sized box that survived surprisingly well in
>> > your pocket. Marlboros also provided a heavy hit of nicotine, heavier
>> > than most other brands.
>>
>> I don't think I ever saw a cigarette commercial on TV, but I do remember
>> Yul Brunner's anti-cigarette commercials which started to run when I was
>> about 8 years old.
>>
>> I was extremely anti smoking when I was a kid and absolutely hated that
>> my grandmother would force me to walk to the corner store and get
>> cigarettes for her. She's write a note for me to show the cashier. I
>> was probably even more upset with the sales people who would sale the
>> cigarettes to a child.
>
>
>Much the same here. My father would order me to go to the local deli
>to get him two or three packs of "L&M filters inna box." I was ten or
>so. He was too damn lazy to go himself, and I guess not quite bright
>enough to buy enough packs to last him the entire weekend. Then again,
>he didn't have to; he had all that free slave labor.
My dad also smoked but he was good about it. Always got his own
cigarettes and never smoked in the house. So while we kids did get
some second hand exposure it was never that much. Like most people he
picked up the habit while in the military, over in Korea in his case.
>On one such occasion, I missed Lee Harvey Oswald being shot on live TV.

IJ> The 1987 "Man on Fire" is currently locked up by Starz (according to
IJ> JustWatch) - so if you have Starz, you can watch it.

Couldn't you find it on youtube?

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On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 18:37:37 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

>My dad also smoked but he was good about it. Always got his own
>cigarettes and never smoked in the house. So while we kids did get
>some second hand exposure it was never that much. Like most people he
>picked up the habit while in the military, over in Korea in his case.

My grandfather keeled over from lung cancer when he was 71 - he smoked
about the equivalent of 1 1/2 packs a day of home-rolled unfiltered.
Guess what kind of cancer it was.

I was 14 at the time and he loaded me up with electronics and ham
radio magazines every time I saw him. He used to boast that the Wright
brothers first flew during his childhood and he had seen Armstrong on
the moon. I hope he would have been pleased both with my son and my
two cousins who became electronal engineers (my cousins thanks to the
USAF) I got to 'computer geek' (I once had a pirated copy of Windows 1
which I never installed - it fit on a single 5.25" floppy which I
ditched when I ditched my last 5.25" floppies) but never as an
engineer.

>>On one such occasion, I missed Lee Harvey Oswald being shot on live TV.

On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 23:37:32 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 18:37:37 -0400, shawn
><nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
>>My dad also smoked but he was good about it. Always got his own
>>cigarettes and never smoked in the house. So while we kids did get
>>some second hand exposure it was never that much. Like most people he
>>picked up the habit while in the military, over in Korea in his case.
>
>My grandfather keeled over from lung cancer when he was 71 - he smoked
>about the equivalent of 1 1/2 packs a day of home-rolled unfiltered.
>Guess what kind of cancer it was.

That didn't tend to happen in my dad's family. Sadly they all tended
to go relatively early (by their 70s) due to heart disease. Given
there were nine of them that's a sure sign of some connection there
whether it be genetic or due to growing up liking their southern
cooking (lot's of fried items.) My dad was one of the lucky ones in
that while he had heart surgery they got the problem fixed so he
lasted a number of years after that.

>I was 14 at the time and he loaded me up with electronics and ham
>radio magazines every time I saw him. He used to boast that the Wright
>brothers first flew during his childhood and he had seen Armstrong on
>the moon. I hope he would have been pleased both with my son and my
>two cousins who became electronal engineers (my cousins thanks to the
>USAF) I got to 'computer geek' (I once had a pirated copy of Windows 1
>which I never installed - it fit on a single 5.25" floppy which I
>ditched when I ditched my last 5.25" floppies) but never as an
>engineer.
>
>
>>>On one such occasion, I missed Lee Harvey Oswald being shot on live TV.

In article <8rfoei1o7nnidm760n6iucbs052pa7iu6f@4ax.com>, The Horny Goat
<lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

> My grandfather keeled over from lung cancer when he was 71 - he smoked
> about the equivalent of 1 1/2 packs a day of home-rolled unfiltered.
> Guess what kind of cancer it was.

Neither of my smoking parents made it out of their 60s. I quit 35
years ago and turned 70 early this year. I don't think I would have
otherwise.

In article <ucfr9k$17p26$1@dont-email.me>, ijball@mac.invalid wrote:

> And what did you watch?

I got tired of Comcast nagging me to replace my cable box with an X1 one so I
opened the one they sent me earlier this month (hmm, looks like my current
one...), hooked it up, and... nothing. Luckily, my smartie-TV is still
connected to the Internet.

THE DECLINE OF QUIZNOS...WHAT HAPPENED?:
Quiznos has fallen on some hard times. It's gone from 5,000 locations to 800
in a little over a decade. This video attempts to explain what happened.
https://youtu.be/P3QK-32bxgw?si=peaNm2HBJo8giTpz

HOW DID RED ROBIN GET SO BIG?:
https://youtu.be/PeQ-uU5H8Ws?si=FyW-zQDApl0uvH3D

FIREHOUSE SUBS - WHY THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL:
https://youtu.be/bUibXHqmg4U?si=Yr-sw5dv-L3tu9xB

10 FAST FOOD CHAINS THAT ARE BY FAR THE _WORST_ IN THE COUNTRY! (PART 2):
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Fast Food Chains that are by Far the WORST in the Country! (Part 2)
0:22 Del Taco
1:38 Boston Market
2:50 Wingstop
4:07 Little Caesars
5:35 Checkers
6:56 Jimmy John's
8:22 Bojangles
9:53 Cici's Pizza
11:19 El Pollo Loco
12:57 Starbucks
https://youtu.be/sg467adYo7M?si=4_Noe9ZV_iqNyrEc
Hmm, I'm not sure I agree with some of these.

THE ULTIMATE 20TH CENTURY FOX/ATARI 2600 TIER LIST - ALL RELEASED GAMES
RANKED:
Welcome to our nostalgic journey through the golden era of gaming! In this
video, we're diving deep into the vault of Atari 2600 classics, focusing on
the games published by the iconic 20th Century Fox. ??? Get ready to relive
the excitement and frustrations of these vintage titles as we rank them all,
from the bottom of the barrel to the cream of the crop!
https://youtu.be/v422sT9cOsY?si=XxmQYpWFpk8aHdeM

DOOMCOCK DESTROYS GHOSTBUSTERS 2016!:
When the Ghostbusters reboot came out in 2016, Doomcock had yet to create his
YouTube channel, and missed out on all the fun bashing this godawful SJW
garbage. Now at last, due to popular demand, Doomcock takes boot to ass and
kicks the bejeezus out of this insulting and dreadfully humorless cinematic
disaster! Plus in this video, Harvey finds a new way to drive Dicktor
insane! (NOTE: The Bill Murray death scene I discuss in the video was from
the Extended Edition, and can be seen in the link below!)
https://youtu.be/L7QTJoMUu1I?si=GOYGxRWlaQSum3gb

Re:View - WILLY WONKA AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY:
Mike and Jay are back to talk about the 1971 classic Willy Wonka and the
Chocolate Factory! If you've only seen the Johnny Depp version from 2005
there is something wrong with you and I feel so very very sorry for you.
https://youtu.be/h5htSJ1C7ts?si=b_iU6eq-nhara7wt

Re:View - FREDDY GOT FINGERED:
Mike and Jay discuss the much-hated Tom Green vehicle Freddy Got Fingered.
And no, they don't talk about the "Daddy Would You Like Some Sausage" song.
You've already heard everyone that has ever mentioned this movie talk about
the "Daddy Would You Like Some Sausage" song.
https://youtu.be/gEn3wcpNsg8?si=KAgM6LvX0ypW4jKS

MEGAFUN WITH MEGAFORCE! (MOVIE NIGHTS):
The good guys always win, even in the 80s.
https://youtu.be/_2ctZkakmNg?si=SBLwUIjTsNTHkQ-S

BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER: BEER BAD (1999) (MANIC EPISODES):
This Buffy episode involves cavemen�that's, uh, really all you need to know.
https://youtu.be/D-UYkeQe2O0?si=wXxKga4ELmH4h2Mc

SNOW WHITE FALLOUT *GETS* WORSE RACHEL ZEGLERS PAST HYPOCRISY REVEALED:
Rachel Zegler has previously starred in West Side Story, now in Snow White
Disney's latest live action adaptation of the classic Snow White animation.
After backlash from resurfaced interviews at D23, West Side Story cast
interviews and on set Snow White pictures, Disney is in Trouble. Can Rachel
Zegler save Snow White for Disney+? Is Snow White worth watching?
https://youtu.be/3cLN73-8QzY?si=51vHKPy7XL-Oy99J

What did you watch>

--
Let's go Brandon!

In article <270820231823282179%nope@noway.com>, nope@noway.com wrote:

> On one such occasion, I missed Lee Harvey Oswald being shot on live TV.

Were you able to see when Buckwheat got shot?

--
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Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> In article <ucfr9k$17p26$1@dont-email.me>, ijball@mac.invalid wrote:
>
>> And what did you watch?
>
> I got tired of Comcast nagging me to replace my cable box with an X1 one so I
> opened the one they sent me earlier this month (hmm, looks like my current
> one...), hooked it up, and... nothing. Luckily, my smartie-TV is still
> connected to the Internet.
>
> THE DECLINE OF QUIZNOS...WHAT HAPPENED?:
> Quiznos has fallen on some hard times. It's gone from 5,000 locations to 800
> in a little over a decade. This video attempts to explain what happened.
> https://youtu.be/P3QK-32bxgw?si=peaNm2HBJo8giTpz

It’s their advertising. Between the spooge monkeys and the ones that say
the drugged out employees put their privates on your food. What did they
expect?

>
> HOW DID RED ROBIN GET SO BIG?:
> https://youtu.be/PeQ-uU5H8Ws?si=FyW-zQDApl0uvH3D
>
> FIREHOUSE SUBS - WHY THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL:
> https://youtu.be/bUibXHqmg4U?si=Yr-sw5dv-L3tu9xB
>
> 10 FAST FOOD CHAINS THAT ARE BY FAR THE _WORST_ IN THE COUNTRY! (PART 2):
> TIMESTAMPS:
> 0:00 Fast Food Chains that are by Far the WORST in the Country! (Part 2)
> 0:22 Del Taco
> 1:38 Boston Market
> 2:50 Wingstop
> 4:07 Little Caesars
> 5:35 Checkers
> 6:56 Jimmy John's
> 8:22 Bojangles
> 9:53 Cici's Pizza
> 11:19 El Pollo Loco
> 12:57 Starbucks
> https://youtu.be/sg467adYo7M?si=4_Noe9ZV_iqNyrEc
> Hmm, I'm not sure I agree with some of these.

I had Del taco once. It was OK.

Boston market is of course famous for its prime rib.

Little Caesars has always sucked.

Cc pizza was OK but it’s long gone.

El Pollo Loco succumbed to the cilantro.

> What did you watch>
>
> --
> Let's go Brandon!
>
>

--
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 07:31:21 -0400, A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:

>In article <8rfoei1o7nnidm760n6iucbs052pa7iu6f@4ax.com>, The Horny Goat
><lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>
>> My grandfather keeled over from lung cancer when he was 71 - he smoked
>> about the equivalent of 1 1/2 packs a day of home-rolled unfiltered.
>> Guess what kind of cancer it was.
>
>
>Neither of my smoking parents made it out of their 60s. I quit 35
>years ago and turned 70 early this year. I don't think I would have
>otherwise.

Understood. My dad ended up quitting some time in his 40s. Oddly
enough shortly after I moved out to go to college. He did end up
getting skin cancer but that's more likely from working outside much
of his life.

On 8/28/2023 12:53 AM, shawn wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 23:37:32 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 18:37:37 -0400, shawn
>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My dad also smoked but he was good about it. Always got his own
>>> cigarettes and never smoked in the house. So while we kids did get
>>> some second hand exposure it was never that much. Like most people he
>>> picked up the habit while in the military, over in Korea in his case.
>>
>> My grandfather keeled over from lung cancer when he was 71 - he smoked
>> about the equivalent of 1 1/2 packs a day of home-rolled unfiltered.
>> Guess what kind of cancer it was.
>
> That didn't tend to happen in my dad's family. Sadly they all tended
> to go relatively early (by their 70s) due to heart disease. Given
> there were nine of them that's a sure sign of some connection there
> whether it be genetic or due to growing up liking their southern
> cooking (lot's of fried items.) My dad was one of the lucky ones in
> that while he had heart surgery they got the problem fixed so he
> lasted a number of years after that.

Most of my dad's brothers and sisters died of heart attacks or strokes
and I figured it wwa because they smoked. However, whem I had a mild
stroke several years ago, and I had never smoked, I figured it was
genetic. Mine was caused by high chloesterol which must be genetic.

anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

>> I got tired of Comcast nagging me to replace my cable box with an X1 one
>> so I opened the one they sent me earlier this month (hmm, looks like my
>> current one...), hooked it up, and... nothing. Luckily, my smartie-TV is
>> still connected to the Internet.
>>
>> THE DECLINE OF QUIZNOS...WHAT HAPPENED?:
>> Quiznos has fallen on some hard times. It's gone from 5,000 locations to
>> 800 in a little over a decade. This video attempts to explain what
>> happened.
>> https://youtu.be/P3QK-32bxgw?si=peaNm2HBJo8giTpz
>
>It's their advertising. Between the spooge monkeys and the ones that say
>the drugged out employees put their privates on your food. What did they
>expect?

Yes, that was mentioned.

>> HOW DID RED ROBIN GET SO BIG?:
>> https://youtu.be/PeQ-uU5H8Ws?si=FyW-zQDApl0uvH3D
>>
>> FIREHOUSE SUBS - WHY THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL:
>> https://youtu.be/bUibXHqmg4U?si=Yr-sw5dv-L3tu9xB
>>
>> 10 FAST FOOD CHAINS THAT ARE BY FAR THE _WORST_ IN THE COUNTRY! (PART 2):
>> TIMESTAMPS:
>> 0:00 Fast Food Chains that are by Far the WORST in the Country! (Part 2)
>> 0:22 Del Taco
>> 1:38 Boston Market
>> 2:50 Wingstop
>> 4:07 Little Caesars
>> 5:35 Checkers
>> 6:56 Jimmy John's
>> 8:22 Bojangles
>> 9:53 Cici's Pizza
>> 11:19 El Pollo Loco
>> 12:57 Starbucks
>> https://youtu.be/sg467adYo7M?si=4_Noe9ZV_iqNyrEc
>> Hmm, I'm not sure I agree with some of these.
>
>I had Del taco once. It was OK.
>Boston market is of course famous for its prime rib.
>Little Caesars has always sucked.

I haven't had a Little Ceasar's pizza since the 1980's,
when they gave you a free one.

>CC pizza was OK but it's long gone.

I used to like them a lot but quite after they went downhill.

--
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 07:33:50 -0700, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

>On 8/28/2023 12:53 AM, shawn wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 23:37:32 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 18:37:37 -0400, shawn
>>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My dad also smoked but he was good about it. Always got his own
>>>> cigarettes and never smoked in the house. So while we kids did get
>>>> some second hand exposure it was never that much. Like most people he
>>>> picked up the habit while in the military, over in Korea in his case.
>>>
>>> My grandfather keeled over from lung cancer when he was 71 - he smoked
>>> about the equivalent of 1 1/2 packs a day of home-rolled unfiltered.
>>> Guess what kind of cancer it was.
>>
>> That didn't tend to happen in my dad's family. Sadly they all tended
>> to go relatively early (by their 70s) due to heart disease. Given
>> there were nine of them that's a sure sign of some connection there
>> whether it be genetic or due to growing up liking their southern
>> cooking (lot's of fried items.) My dad was one of the lucky ones in
>> that while he had heart surgery they got the problem fixed so he
>> lasted a number of years after that.
>
>Most of my dad's brothers and sisters died of heart attacks or strokes
>and I figured it wwa because they smoked. However, whem I had a mild
>stroke several years ago, and I had never smoked, I figured it was
>genetic. Mine was caused by high chloesterol which must be genetic.

I think that's a contributing factor. Then you have people like George
Burns who seemed like he would live forever even though he smoked all
the time.

In a way I kind of see heart attacks as a bit of a blessing if it
kills you because it saves you from that steady decline that both my
parents went through as they aged. Of course it also robs you of
possibly many years with your family and could leave you with physical
issues. So I would say it's best to avoid both strokes and heart
attacks if possible.