shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

>>. . .

>I think that's a contributing factor. Then you have people like George
>Burns who seemed like he would live forever even though he smoked all
>the time.

After Gracie died? No one would have predicted he'd have survived her by
decades. She was irreplaceable in the act, and remained on television
for his benefit after she got sick.

btw, you know he wasn't cast in The Sunshine Boys, right? He was called
in out of a long retirement after Jack Benny got sick. That he got a
big movie career for the last decade of his life or so was a huge
coincidence.

Tobacco is deadly but I guess there's a difference between cigars versus
cigarettes. Well, different cancers, and you don't breathe in smoke from
burning cigarette paper.

>In a way I kind of see heart attacks as a bit of a blessing if it
>kills you because it saves you from that steady decline that both my
>parents went through as they aged. Of course it also robs you of
>possibly many years with your family and could leave you with physical
>issues. So I would say it's best to avoid both strokes and heart
>attacks if possible.

Yeah. Not all heart attacks are widow makers.

On 8/28/2023 9:19 AM, shawn wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 07:33:50 -0700, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>
>> On 8/28/2023 12:53 AM, shawn wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 23:37:32 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 18:37:37 -0400, shawn
>>>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My dad also smoked but he was good about it. Always got his own
>>>>> cigarettes and never smoked in the house. So while we kids did get
>>>>> some second hand exposure it was never that much. Like most people he
>>>>> picked up the habit while in the military, over in Korea in his case.
>>>>
>>>> My grandfather keeled over from lung cancer when he was 71 - he smoked
>>>> about the equivalent of 1 1/2 packs a day of home-rolled unfiltered.
>>>> Guess what kind of cancer it was.
>>>
>>> That didn't tend to happen in my dad's family. Sadly they all tended
>>> to go relatively early (by their 70s) due to heart disease. Given
>>> there were nine of them that's a sure sign of some connection there
>>> whether it be genetic or due to growing up liking their southern
>>> cooking (lot's of fried items.) My dad was one of the lucky ones in
>>> that while he had heart surgery they got the problem fixed so he
>>> lasted a number of years after that.
>>
>> Most of my dad's brothers and sisters died of heart attacks or strokes
>> and I figured it wwa because they smoked. However, whem I had a mild
>> stroke several years ago, and I had never smoked, I figured it was
>> genetic. Mine was caused by high chloesterol which must be genetic.
>
> I think that's a contributing factor. Then you have people like George
> Burns who seemed like he would live forever even though he smoked all
> the time.
>
> In a way I kind of see heart attacks as a bit of a blessing if it
> kills you because it saves you from that steady decline that both my
> parents went through as they aged. Of course it also robs you of
> possibly many years with your family and could leave you with physical
> issues. So I would say it's best to avoid both strokes and heart
> attacks if possible.
>
Yep, by whatever means. I only take two meds, one for hypertension, the
other to lower chloesterol and they work well.

On 8/27/23 9:40 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> On 8/27/23 8:49 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>
>> Enjoying my second-to-last 3-day weekend of the summer, I watched...:
>>
>> Cruel Summer (Hulu) - Ep's #2.3 & 2.4.
>>
>> Strain 100 (Prime) - This 2020 zombie horror flick...
>>
>> The Day (Prime) - This 2011 Canadian post-apocalyptic horror flick...
>>
>> Glasshouse (Freevee (via Prime)) - This 2021 film...
>
> Forgot one:
>
> Vanished in Yosemite (Lifetime) - Insultingly, Lifetime said this was
> "Inspired by true events." What palaver!! If somebody was pulling a
> "Most Dangerous Game" with bows and crossbows in a U.S. national part,
> we *all* would have heard about it!!
>    I'm not sure this was filmed at Yosemite - I am guessing it almost
> certainly wasn't. But if it wasn't, the "process shots" were excellent,
> as you could not easily tell that the "Yosemite backgrounds" were
> "composite" shots. Beyond that, I can't figure out where this was filmed
> - it wasn't British Columbia, so my guess is somewhere in California,
> but not in Yosemite itself.
>    Anyway, I though "Disappearance in Yellowstone" was better than this
> - woman's (Skye Coyne) slutty sister (Kelcie Stranahan) goes off hiking
> with some random dude, and of course he's a bad dude and kidnaps here.
> The woman (Coyne) then calls up her long-suffering ex (Jason Tobias) to
> help her look for the missing sister.
>    And, of course, along the way, they are totally stymied in their
> efforts by the authorities.
>    The setting was great. The story, and the "twist"?... Meh.
>    P.S. Tell Robin that I tried to submit this one to IMDb, as it's not
> in there yet. (Last time I tried that though, somebody beat me to it,
> and rather than merge the two entries, IMDb just rejected my submission,
> undoing all of my hard work...  >:/  )

Success - "Vanished in Yosemite" is now on IMDb, thanks to me!!
Robin can thank me later!!! :D

On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 16:26:25 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
>>>. . .
>
>>I think that's a contributing factor. Then you have people like George
>>Burns who seemed like he would live forever even though he smoked all
>>the time.
>
>After Gracie died? No one would have predicted he'd have survived her by
>decades. She was irreplaceable in the act, and remained on television
>for his benefit after she got sick.
>
>btw, you know he wasn't cast in The Sunshine Boys, right? He was called
>in out of a long retirement after Jack Benny got sick. That he got a
>big movie career for the last decade of his life or so was a huge
>coincidence.

That always sort of amazes me how people can disappear for years and
then make a comeback. It's not like they lost their talent in the
interim. It's just that Hollywood is fickle and often can't think past
the people they've seen recently, or assume if they haven't seen
someone in the past year it's because they aren't any good.

>Tobacco is deadly but I guess there's a difference between cigars versus
>cigarettes. Well, different cancers, and you don't breathe in smoke from
>burning cigarette paper.

Yeah, pipe smoking is like that too. Though I've only known two people
that smoked a pipe. One was my uncle Ralph and then a girl I knew in
my college days. I guess from watching Ralph that the process of
setting up the pipe for smoking is part of the pleasure. I noticed he
also had to light the pipe multiple times while smoking as it seems
the 'fire' would go out.
>
>>In a way I kind of see heart attacks as a bit of a blessing if it
>>kills you because it saves you from that steady decline that both my
>>parents went through as they aged. Of course it also robs you of
>>possibly many years with your family and could leave you with physical
>>issues. So I would say it's best to avoid both strokes and heart
>>attacks if possible.
>
>Yeah. Not all heart attacks are widow makers.

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>Mon, 28 Aug 2023 16:26:25 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
>>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

>>>>. . .

>>>I think that's a contributing factor. Then you have people like George
>>>Burns who seemed like he would live forever even though he smoked all
>>>the time.

>>After Gracie died? No one would have predicted he'd have survived her by
>>decades. She was irreplaceable in the act, and remained on television
>>for his benefit after she got sick.

>>btw, you know he wasn't cast in The Sunshine Boys, right? He was called
>>in out of a long retirement after Jack Benny got sick. That he got a
>>big movie career for the last decade of his life or so was a huge
>>coincidence.

>That always sort of amazes me how people can disappear for years and
>then make a comeback. It's not like they lost their talent in the
>interim. It's just that Hollywood is fickle and often can't think past
>the people they've seen recently, or assume if they haven't seen
>someone in the past year it's because they aren't any good.

Burns had tried his act with a younger woman (spacing out on her name)
as the "clown"; it didn't work. Burns kind of gave up the act at that point.

He did produce a play on Broadway. He also did a number of one-man
shows.

The Sunshine Boys proved he could give a dramatic performance with comedic
elements, which is rather different than doing an act.

>>Tobacco is deadly but I guess there's a difference between cigars versus
>>cigarettes. Well, different cancers, and you don't breathe in smoke from
>>burning cigarette paper.

Looks like Burns DID NOT escape the ravages of tobacco use. He had
triple-bypass surgery in the weeks BEFORE production on the movie began.

>Yeah, pipe smoking is like that too. Though I've only known two people
>that smoked a pipe. One was my uncle Ralph and then a girl I knew in
>my college days. I guess from watching Ralph that the process of
>setting up the pipe for smoking is part of the pleasure. I noticed he
>also had to light the pipe multiple times while smoking as it seems
>the 'fire' would go out.

>>>. . .

On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:35:57 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>Mon, 28 Aug 2023 16:26:25 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
>>>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>. . .
>
>>>>I think that's a contributing factor. Then you have people like George
>>>>Burns who seemed like he would live forever even though he smoked all
>>>>the time.
>
>>>After Gracie died? No one would have predicted he'd have survived her by
>>>decades. She was irreplaceable in the act, and remained on television
>>>for his benefit after she got sick.
>
>>>btw, you know he wasn't cast in The Sunshine Boys, right? He was called
>>>in out of a long retirement after Jack Benny got sick. That he got a
>>>big movie career for the last decade of his life or so was a huge
>>>coincidence.
>
>>That always sort of amazes me how people can disappear for years and
>>then make a comeback. It's not like they lost their talent in the
>>interim. It's just that Hollywood is fickle and often can't think past
>>the people they've seen recently, or assume if they haven't seen
>>someone in the past year it's because they aren't any good.
>
>Burns had tried his act with a younger woman (spacing out on her name)
>as the "clown"; it didn't work. Burns kind of gave up the act at that point.
>
>He did produce a play on Broadway. He also did a number of one-man
>shows.
>
>The Sunshine Boys proved he could give a dramatic performance with comedic
>elements, which is rather different than doing an act.

So he made the switch much like Leslie Nielsen did. Just in reverse.

>>>Tobacco is deadly but I guess there's a difference between cigars versus
>>>cigarettes. Well, different cancers, and you don't breathe in smoke from
>>>burning cigarette paper.
>
>Looks like Burns DID NOT escape the ravages of tobacco use. He had
>triple-bypass surgery in the weeks BEFORE production on the movie began.
>
>>Yeah, pipe smoking is like that too. Though I've only known two people
>>that smoked a pipe. One was my uncle Ralph and then a girl I knew in
>>my college days. I guess from watching Ralph that the process of
>>setting up the pipe for smoking is part of the pleasure. I noticed he
>>also had to light the pipe multiple times while smoking as it seems
>>the 'fire' would go out.
>
>>>>. . .

On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 03:53:51 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

>That didn't tend to happen in my dad's family. Sadly they all tended
>to go relatively early (by their 70s) due to heart disease. Given
>there were nine of them that's a sure sign of some connection there
>whether it be genetic or due to growing up liking their southern
>cooking (lot's of fried items.) My dad was one of the lucky ones in
>that while he had heart surgery they got the problem fixed so he
>lasted a number of years after that.

My 71 year old grandfather was with one exception (she was run over by
a 30' RV at age 71) the only parent or grandparent or uncle or aunt in
my family that didn't make it to at least 75 with most going 80+.

He was also the only heavy smoker in my family and having him die at
that age was a strong deterrent to 14 year old me to considering
smokng. And while my parents didn't have 8 or 9 siblings (father 3rd
of 6, mother 1st of 2) there was a reasonable sample size.

On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 07:33:50 -0700, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

>Most of my dad's brothers and sisters died of heart attacks or strokes
>and I figured it wwa because they smoked. However, whem I had a mild
>stroke several years ago, and I had never smoked, I figured it was
>genetic. Mine was caused by high chloesterol which must be genetic.

It could also be 'genetic' in the sense of most of your food being
prepared by someone who learned to cook from someone (probably your
grandmother) who didn't use the healthiest ingredients.

On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 12:19:08 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

>In a way I kind of see heart attacks as a bit of a blessing if it
>kills you because it saves you from that steady decline that both my
>parents went through as they aged. Of course it also robs you of
>possibly many years with your family and could leave you with physical
>issues. So I would say it's best to avoid both strokes and heart
>attacks if possible.

While I agree with you, losing my father (81) and maternal grandfather
(84) after long bouts with Alzheimers wasn't a treat either. And is
one of the key reasons I "do my mental gymnastics" with our paper's
daily Sudoku and spend time in thought provoking places like this
(since I'm at risk from both sides)

They say Alzheimers makes you more of what you were before which could
be true as one of those was a outstanding example of a gentleman to
the point his physical health gave out and the other was a
skirt-chasing SOB as long as he was able (at which point his second
wife put him in a care home and causing him to lose the will to live -
literally - he stopped eating shortly after he realized what had been
done).

On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 12:18:11 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 12:19:08 -0400, shawn
><nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
>>In a way I kind of see heart attacks as a bit of a blessing if it
>>kills you because it saves you from that steady decline that both my
>>parents went through as they aged. Of course it also robs you of
>>possibly many years with your family and could leave you with physical
>>issues. So I would say it's best to avoid both strokes and heart
>>attacks if possible.
>
>While I agree with you, losing my father (81) and maternal grandfather
>(84) after long bouts with Alzheimers wasn't a treat either. And is
>one of the key reasons I "do my mental gymnastics" with our paper's
>daily Sudoku and spend time in thought provoking places like this
>(since I'm at risk from both sides)
>
>They say Alzheimers makes you more of what you were before which could
>be true as one of those was a outstanding example of a gentleman to
>the point his physical health gave out and the other was a
>skirt-chasing SOB as long as he was able (at which point his second
>wife put him in a care home and causing him to lose the will to live -
>literally - he stopped eating shortly after he realized what had been
>done).

I've been blessed that Alzheimer's does not seem to run in either side
of my family. My dad made it to his 80s with his mind intact and my
mom into her 90s. Now my dad did have open heart surgery and my mom
had a stent put into her so heart disease is an issue in my family on
both sides. So I do keep that in mind when choosing my food but can't
say I'm strict on my diet or exercise.

Losing yourself has to be one of the worst ways to go, especially when
you realize what is happening and can't do anything to stop it. Though
it does seem like real breakthroughs are happening on that front with
new treatments that may, at least, stop or slow down the disease from
progressing.

On 9/1/2023 12:12 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 07:33:50 -0700, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>
>> Most of my dad's brothers and sisters died of heart attacks or strokes
>> and I figured it wwa because they smoked. However, whem I had a mild
>> stroke several years ago, and I had never smoked, I figured it was
>> genetic. Mine was caused by high chloesterol which must be genetic.
>
> It could also be 'genetic' in the sense of most of your food being
> prepared by someone who learned to cook from someone (probably your
> grandmother) who didn't use the healthiest ingredients.

My mother's parents lived to 96 and 98, and her siblings into their 90s,
except a sister who died at 20 from a car acccident, and the oldest
brother who got cancer in his 60s. She lived to 91 as did my father who
didn't smoke, but got Alzheimer's. Mom's cooking was somewhat bland, but
healthy; we lived on a farm and had a large garden as well as fresh raw
milk and home grown beef and chickens. Until my mother got tired of
dealing with the chickens and prices at the grocery store got really cheap.

On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 12:12:28 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 07:33:50 -0700, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
>
>>Most of my dad's brothers and sisters died of heart attacks or strokes
>>and I figured it wwa because they smoked. However, whem I had a mild
>>stroke several years ago, and I had never smoked, I figured it was
>>genetic. Mine was caused by high chloesterol which must be genetic.
>
>It could also be 'genetic' in the sense of most of your food being
>prepared by someone who learned to cook from someone (probably your
>grandmother) who didn't use the healthiest ingredients.

True.. Certainly one thing I always hear is that our food in America
tends to be salty to people from overseas. We've learned that salt is
good (for the taste) and apply it liberally, especially in the
processed foods. While it seems that places like the UK/Japan and
others don't use as much of it. Sugar would be another thing we tend
to use more so than other places.

Certainly my dad loved his fried food which is what we often ended up
with when visiting my grandmother on his side of the family. Never did
get to visit my mom's parents while I was old enough to remember as
they both died in their 70s. Hell, so did her brothers so she was a
bit surprised to see herself live so long as she truly thought it was
a genetic thing that would take her in her 70s.

On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 15:50:18 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

>I've been blessed that Alzheimer's does not seem to run in either side
>of my family. My dad made it to his 80s with his mind intact and my
>mom into her 90s. Now my dad did have open heart surgery and my mom
>had a stent put into her so heart disease is an issue in my family on
>both sides. So I do keep that in mind when choosing my food but can't
>say I'm strict on my diet or exercise.
>
>Losing yourself has to be one of the worst ways to go, especially when
>you realize what is happening and can't do anything to stop it. Though
>it does seem like real breakthroughs are happening on that front with
>new treatments that may, at least, stop or slow down the disease from
>progressing.

In my family this seems to affect only the men not the women. My
grandmother lived to 91 and was on track for 95 when someone with a
walker knocked her over breaking her hip. The funeral was a week
later. I don't think my mother counts with respect to longetivity
since she was fatally run over by a 30' RV (and died as she was being
transferred from the ambulance to hospital emergency). Besides the
chain smoking grandfather everybody else made it to age 77 or better
so I am hopeful despite other conditions. (I turn 68 in three weeks)

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> Mon, 28 Aug 2023 16:26:25 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> . . .
>
>>>> I think that's a contributing factor. Then you have people like George
>>>> Burns who seemed like he would live forever even though he smoked all
>>>> the time.
>
>>> After Gracie died? No one would have predicted he'd have survived her by
>>> decades. She was irreplaceable in the act, and remained on television
>>> for his benefit after she got sick.
>
>>> btw, you know he wasn't cast in The Sunshine Boys, right? He was called
>>> in out of a long retirement after Jack Benny got sick. That he got a
>>> big movie career for the last decade of his life or so was a huge
>>> coincidence.
>
>> That always sort of amazes me how people can disappear for years and
>> then make a comeback. It's not like they lost their talent in the
>> interim. It's just that Hollywood is fickle and often can't think past
>> the people they've seen recently, or assume if they haven't seen
>> someone in the past year it's because they aren't any good.
>
> Burns had tried his act with a younger woman (spacing out on her name)
> as the "clown"; it didn't work. Burns kind of gave up the act at that point.
>

Connie Stevens. “Wendy and Me“

> He did produce a play on Broadway. He also did a number of one-man
> shows.
>
> The Sunshine Boys proved he could give a dramatic performance with comedic
> elements, which is rather different than doing an act.
>
>>> Tobacco is deadly but I guess there's a difference between cigars versus
>>> cigarettes. Well, different cancers, and you don't breathe in smoke from
>>> burning cigarette paper.
>
> Looks like Burns DID NOT escape the ravages of tobacco use. He had
> triple-bypass surgery in the weeks BEFORE production on the movie began.
>
>> Yeah, pipe smoking is like that too. Though I've only known two people
>> that smoked a pipe. One was my uncle Ralph and then a girl I knew in
>> my college days. I guess from watching Ralph that the process of
>> setting up the pipe for smoking is part of the pleasure. I noticed he
>> also had to light the pipe multiple times while smoking as it seems
>> the 'fire' would go out.
>
>>>> . . .
>

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 20:37:53 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 15:50:18 -0400, shawn
><nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
>>I've been blessed that Alzheimer's does not seem to run in either side
>>of my family. My dad made it to his 80s with his mind intact and my
>>mom into her 90s. Now my dad did have open heart surgery and my mom
>>had a stent put into her so heart disease is an issue in my family on
>>both sides. So I do keep that in mind when choosing my food but can't
>>say I'm strict on my diet or exercise.
>>
>>Losing yourself has to be one of the worst ways to go, especially when
>>you realize what is happening and can't do anything to stop it. Though
>>it does seem like real breakthroughs are happening on that front with
>>new treatments that may, at least, stop or slow down the disease from
>>progressing.
>
>In my family this seems to affect only the men not the women. My
>grandmother lived to 91 and was on track for 95 when someone with a
>walker knocked her over breaking her hip. The funeral was a week
>later. I don't think my mother counts with respect to longetivity
>since she was fatally run over by a 30' RV (and died as she was being
>transferred from the ambulance to hospital emergency). Besides the
>chain smoking grandfather everybody else made it to age 77 or better
>so I am hopeful despite other conditions. (I turn 68 in three weeks)

Congrats and an early Happy Birthday to you.

I hope that I can make it that far.

In article
<671319317.715329194.960755.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> > shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> >> Mon, 28 Aug 2023 16:26:25 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
> >>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>>> . . .
> >
> >>>> I think that's a contributing factor. Then you have people like George
> >>>> Burns who seemed like he would live forever even though he smoked all
> >>>> the time.
> >
> >>> After Gracie died? No one would have predicted he'd have survived her by
> >>> decades. She was irreplaceable in the act, and remained on television
> >>> for his benefit after she got sick.
> >
> >>> btw, you know he wasn't cast in The Sunshine Boys, right? He was called
> >>> in out of a long retirement after Jack Benny got sick. That he got a
> >>> big movie career for the last decade of his life or so was a huge
> >>> coincidence.
> >
> >> That always sort of amazes me how people can disappear for years and
> >> then make a comeback. It's not like they lost their talent in the
> >> interim. It's just that Hollywood is fickle and often can't think past
> >> the people they've seen recently, or assume if they haven't seen
> >> someone in the past year it's because they aren't any good.
> >
> > Burns had tried his act with a younger woman (spacing out on her name)
> > as the "clown"; it didn't work. Burns kind of gave up the act at that point.
> >
>
> Connie Stevens. ³Wendy and Me³
>
>
> > He did produce a play on Broadway. He also did a number of one-man
> > shows.
> >
> > The Sunshine Boys proved he could give a dramatic performance with comedic
> > elements, which is rather different than doing an act.
> >
> >>> Tobacco is deadly but I guess there's a difference between cigars versus
> >>> cigarettes. Well, different cancers, and you don't breathe in smoke from
> >>> burning cigarette paper.
> >
> > Looks like Burns DID NOT escape the ravages of tobacco use. He had
> > triple-bypass surgery in the weeks BEFORE production on the movie began.
> >
> >> Yeah, pipe smoking is like that too. Though I've only known two people
> >> that smoked a pipe. One was my uncle Ralph and then a girl I knew in
> >> my college days. I guess from watching Ralph that the process of
> >> setting up the pipe for smoking is part of the pleasure. I noticed he
> >> also had to light the pipe multiple times while smoking as it seems
> >> the 'fire' would go out.

George Burns named himself after the Burns Bros. Coal Co., which was
located on the East River in NYC around 20th Street. Everybody on the
Lower East Side got their coal from them. I watched the silos burn
down to the ground around 1966. The smoke column stretched more than a
mile across the river to Brooklyn.

On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 03:10:14 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

>Congrats and an early Happy Birthday to you.
>
>I hope that I can make it that far.

Thanks - I just tell people I'd like to live to 300 since I know I
won't actually make it that far.

My granddaughter on the other hand, now 16 months old has an excellent
chance of seeing the 22nd century (which is 2100-2199 in case
anybody's forgotten)

In article <sbicfi1mddn79rlq5ph04e0cdi198lhf23@4ax.com>, The Horny Goat
<lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

> On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 03:10:14 -0400, shawn
> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
> >Congrats and an early Happy Birthday to you.
> >
> >I hope that I can make it that far.
>
> Thanks - I just tell people I'd like to live to 300 since I know I
> won't actually make it that far.
>
> My granddaughter on the other hand, now 16 months old has an excellent
> chance of seeing the 22nd century (which is 2100-2199 in case
> anybody's forgotten)

2101-2200

A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:
> In article <sbicfi1mddn79rlq5ph04e0cdi198lhf23@4ax.com>, The Horny Goat
> <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 02 Sep 2023 03:10:14 -0400, shawn
>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Congrats and an early Happy Birthday to you.
>>>
>>> I hope that I can make it that far.
>>
>> Thanks - I just tell people I'd like to live to 300 since I know I
>> won't actually make it that far.
>>
>> My granddaughter on the other hand, now 16 months old has an excellent
>> chance of seeing the 22nd century (which is 2100-2199 in case
>> anybody's forgotten)
>
>
> 2101-2200
>

What he said.

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