This episode doesn't make much sense.

First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
massacre of 4000 people.

Then we're told that there are only nine people alive who survived the
massacre and could identify Kodos, to include Kirk and a young
Enterprise officer named Reilly.

This makes no sense. The historical tapes clearly say Kodos only killed
half the colonists. That means there should be 4000 people who could
identify him. It's not like Kodos was just some random schlub. He was
the governor of their colony. Why wouldn't they all be able to identify
him?

And the inclusion on Reilly on the list of nine is also bizarre. You can
tell just by looking at him that he's barely in his 20s and the Kodos
massacre happened 20 years before, which means at best he'd have been a
toddler when it happened and wouldn't be able to identify anyone from
back then.

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> This episode doesn't make much sense.
>
> First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
> power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
> the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
> on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
> massacre of 4000 people.

I’ve always wondered how you quickly and painlessly kill 4000 people.

>
> Then we're told that there are only nine people alive who survived the
> massacre and could identify Kodos, to include Kirk and a young
> Enterprise officer named Reilly.
>
> This makes no sense. The historical tapes clearly say Kodos only killed
> half the colonists. That means there should be 4000 people who could
> identify him. It's not like Kodos was just some random schlub. He was
> the governor of their colony. Why wouldn't they all be able to identify
> him?

According to Spock, there were only nine survivors who had ever seen Kodos
with their own eyes. Apparently, for some reason that makes the difference.
Maybe nobody trusts videotape in the future?

>
> And the inclusion on Reilly on the list of nine is also bizarre. You can
> tell just by looking at him that he's barely in his 20s and the Kodos
> massacre happened 20 years before, which means at best he'd have been a
> toddler when it happened and wouldn't be able to identify anyone from
> back then.

Yeah, that’s always been a problem. The actor was 25 at the time.
Eyewitness identification by a preschooler?

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

atropos@mac.com wrote:

>This episode doesn't make much sense.
>
>First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>massacre of 4000 people.
>
>Then we're told that there are only nine people alive who survived the
>massacre and could identify Kodos, to include Kirk and a young
>Enterprise officer named Reilly.
>
>This makes no sense. The historical tapes clearly say Kodos only killed
>half the colonists. That means there should be 4000 people who could
>identify him. It's not like Kodos was just some random schlub. He was
>the governor of their colony. Why wouldn't they all be able to identify
>him?

It's been awhile, but I thought that most of the 4K he didn't kill died
anyway or died later, either by natural causes or by him whenever his troupe
was in town.

--
Let's go Brandon!

On 9/6/2023 5:07 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> This episode doesn't make much sense.
>>
>> First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>> power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>> the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>> on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>> massacre of 4000 people.
>
> I’ve always wondered how you quickly and painlessly kill 4000 people.
>
Phasers.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:07:24 AM UTC-4, anim8rfsk wrote:
> BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
> > This episode doesn't make much sense.
> >
> > First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
> > power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
> > the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
> > on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
> > massacre of 4000 people.
> I’ve always wondered how you quickly and painlessly kill 4000 people.

Fentanyl?

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>This episode doesn't make much sense.

>First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>massacre of 4000 people.

>Then we're told that there are only nine people alive who survived the
>massacre and could identify Kodos, to include Kirk and a young
>Enterprise officer named Reilly.

>This makes no sense. The historical tapes clearly say Kodos only killed
>half the colonists. That means there should be 4000 people who could
>identify him. It's not like Kodos was just some random schlub. He was
>the governor of their colony. Why wouldn't they all be able to identify
>him?

>And the inclusion on Reilly on the list of nine is also bizarre. You can
>tell just by looking at him that he's barely in his 20s and the Kodos
>massacre happened 20 years before, which means at best he'd have been a
>toddler when it happened and wouldn't be able to identify anyone from
>back then.

I haven't seen this in a long time. This was the King Lear episode?

I'm ashamed to say I cannot recall who the hot babe was on this episode
for Kirk to fall in love with.

In article <uda5ql$2i2g6$1@dont-email.me>, Adam H. Kerman
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >This episode doesn't make much sense.
>
> >First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
> >power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
> >the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
> >on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
> >massacre of 4000 people.
>
> >Then we're told that there are only nine people alive who survived the
> >massacre and could identify Kodos, to include Kirk and a young
> >Enterprise officer named Reilly.
>
> >This makes no sense. The historical tapes clearly say Kodos only killed
> >half the colonists. That means there should be 4000 people who could
> >identify him. It's not like Kodos was just some random schlub. He was
> >the governor of their colony. Why wouldn't they all be able to identify
> >him?
>
> >And the inclusion on Reilly on the list of nine is also bizarre. You can
> >tell just by looking at him that he's barely in his 20s and the Kodos
> >massacre happened 20 years before, which means at best he'd have been a
> >toddler when it happened and wouldn't be able to identify anyone from
> >back then.
>
> I haven't seen this in a long time. This was the King Lear episode?
>
> I'm ashamed to say I cannot recall who the hot babe was on this episode
> for Kirk to fall in love with.

Barbara Anderson (which I knew already because, well, Barbara
Anderson). Maybe NBC saw Babs in this and liked her, because she wound
up as a regular in the Raymond Burr series Ironside the following
season.

In article <ud9qnn$2g9su$1@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

> atropos@mac.com wrote:
>
> >This episode doesn't make much sense.
> >
> >First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
> >power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
> >the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
> >on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
> >massacre of 4000 people.
> >
> >Then we're told that there are only nine people alive who survived the
> >massacre and could identify Kodos, to include Kirk and a young
> >Enterprise officer named Reilly.
> >
> >This makes no sense. The historical tapes clearly say Kodos only killed
> >half the colonists. That means there should be 4000 people who could
> >identify him. It's not like Kodos was just some random schlub. He was
> >the governor of their colony. Why wouldn't they all be able to identify
> >him?
>
> It's been awhile, but I thought that most of the 4K he didn't kill died
> anyway or died later, either by natural causes or by him whenever his
> troupe was in town.

It's ridiculous to suggest that 3,991 people all managed to die off in
just 20 years. And it's even more ridiculous to suggest that the blonde
girl who was killing off the nine people left had somehow managed all on
her own to kill off thousands of people before them one by one and never
get caught.

And why do they need people to identify Kodos anyway? He was the leader
of the colony. Politicians have their pictures taken all the time. There
would be plenty of photos that could be used to identify him. Hell, Kirk
pulled one up on the Enterprise's computer when he first started to
suspect.

In article
<638218420.715693453.193706.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> > This episode doesn't make much sense.
> >
> > First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
> > power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
> > the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
> > on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
> > massacre of 4000 people.
>
> I’ve always wondered how you quickly and painlessly kill 4000 people.

And if they were all killed quickly and painlessly, why did Kirk's
friend at the beginning have half his face mutilated?

> > Then we're told that there are only nine people alive who survived the
> > massacre and could identify Kodos, to include Kirk and a young
> > Enterprise officer named Reilly.
> >
> > This makes no sense. The historical tapes clearly say Kodos only killed
> > half the colonists. That means there should be 4000 people who could
> > identify him. It's not like Kodos was just some random schlub. He was
> > the governor of their colony. Why wouldn't they all be able to identify
> > him?
>
> According to Spock, there were only nine survivors who had ever seen Kodos
> with their own eyes. Apparently, for some reason that makes the difference.
> Maybe nobody trusts videotape in the future?

So out of the 4000 people who lived, only nine people-- one of whom was
barely more than a baby-- ever looked at him in person?

> > And the inclusion of Reilly on the list of nine is also bizarre. You can
> > tell just by looking at him that he's barely in his 20s and the Kodos
> > massacre happened 20 years before, which means at best he'd have been a
> > toddler when it happened and wouldn't be able to identify anyone from
> > back then.
>
> Yeah, that's always been a problem. The actor was 25 at the time.
> Eyewitness identification by a preschooler?

Even Kirk would have been what? 10, maybe 12 years old?

Four thousand colonists and no one's looking at their own governor
directly except nine people, two of whom are children?

What kind of drugs were the writers of this episode on?

Also, I forgot another thing that didn't make sense: when Kirk has the
computer run the list of nine and hears Reilly's name, he makes a point
of transferring Reilly from his post down to the dark bowels of the
ship. I assumed Kirk was setting Reilly up as bait, to put him somewhere
he'd be vulnerable to lure the killer out and catch him. But no. Kirk
just transferred him down there and then forgot about him, where he was
nearly murdered. Why the hell did Kirk do that?

ahk@chinet.com wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>This episode doesn't make much sense.
>>
>>First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>>power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>>the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>>on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>>massacre of 4000 people.
>>
>>Then we're told that there are only nine people alive who survived the
>>massacre and could identify Kodos, to include Kirk and a young
>>Enterprise officer named Reilly.
>>
>>This makes no sense. The historical tapes clearly say Kodos only killed
>>half the colonists. That means there should be 4000 people who could
>>identify him. It's not like Kodos was just some random schlub. He was
>>the governor of their colony. Why wouldn't they all be able to identify
>>him?
>>
>>And the inclusion on Reilly on the list of nine is also bizarre. You can
>>tell just by looking at him that he's barely in his 20s and the Kodos
>>massacre happened 20 years before, which means at best he'd have been a
>>toddler when it happened and wouldn't be able to identify anyone from
>>back then.
>
>I haven't seen this in a long time. This was the King Lear episode?

Yes, it was a thinly-disguised Nazi-war-crimes-hunt in SPACE!

--
Let's go Brandon!

atropos@mac.com wrote:
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>> atropos@mac.com wrote:

>> >This episode doesn't make much sense.
>> >
>> >First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>> >power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>> >the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>> >on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>> >massacre of 4000 people.
>> >
>> >Then we're told that there are only nine people alive who survived the
>> >massacre and could identify Kodos, to include Kirk and a young
>> >Enterprise officer named Reilly.
>> >
>> >This makes no sense. The historical tapes clearly say Kodos only killed
>> >half the colonists. That means there should be 4000 people who could
>> >identify him. It's not like Kodos was just some random schlub. He was
>> >the governor of their colony. Why wouldn't they all be able to identify
>> >him?
>>
>> It's been awhile, but I thought that most of the 4K he didn't kill died
>> anyway or died later, either by natural causes or by him whenever his
>> troupe was in town.
>
>It's ridiculous to suggest that 3,991 people all managed to die off in
>just 20 years. And it's even more ridiculous to suggest that the blonde
>girl who was killing off the nine people left had somehow managed all on
>her own to kill off thousands of people before them one by one and never
>get caught.
>
>And why do they need people to identify Kodos anyway? He was the leader
>of the colony. Politicians have their pictures taken all the time. There
>would be plenty of photos that could be used to identify him. Hell, Kirk
>pulled one up on the Enterprise's computer when he first started to
>suspect.

If memory serves, he wasn't the governor, but an usurper who seized power,
so he might not have been a well-known person at the time. I can see him
not making any public appearances and just broadcasting edicts from a radio
studio under a nom de guerre, then blended in with the crowd when the
Federation arrived.

but if he was hiding as a fugitive under a new identity, why was he in such a
high-profile position? Did he want to be found at some level?

--
Let's go Brandon!

Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> atropos@mac.com wrote:
>
>> This episode doesn't make much sense.
>>
>> First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>> power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>> the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>> on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>> massacre of 4000 people.
>>
>> Then we're told that there are only nine people alive who survived the
>> massacre and could identify Kodos, to include Kirk and a young
>> Enterprise officer named Reilly.
>>
>> This makes no sense. The historical tapes clearly say Kodos only killed
>> half the colonists. That means there should be 4000 people who could
>> identify him. It's not like Kodos was just some random schlub. He was
>> the governor of their colony. Why wouldn't they all be able to identify
>> him?
>
> It's been awhile, but I thought that most of the 4K he didn't kill died
> anyway or died later, either by natural causes or by him whenever his troupe
> was in town.

No. Seven of the nine eyewitnesses died when his troupe was in town. Which
was very, very suspicious.

>
> --
> Let's go Brandon!
>
>

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> This episode doesn't make much sense.
>
>> First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>> power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>> the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>> on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>> massacre of 4000 people.
>
>> Then we're told that there are only nine people alive who survived the
>> massacre and could identify Kodos, to include Kirk and a young
>> Enterprise officer named Reilly.
>
>> This makes no sense. The historical tapes clearly say Kodos only killed
>> half the colonists. That means there should be 4000 people who could
>> identify him. It's not like Kodos was just some random schlub. He was
>> the governor of their colony. Why wouldn't they all be able to identify
>> him?
>
>> And the inclusion on Reilly on the list of nine is also bizarre. You can
>> tell just by looking at him that he's barely in his 20s and the Kodos
>> massacre happened 20 years before, which means at best he'd have been a
>> toddler when it happened and wouldn't be able to identify anyone from
>> back then.
>
> I haven't seen this in a long time. This was the King Lear episode?
>

Arcturian MacBeth

> I'm ashamed to say I cannot recall who the hot babe was on this episode
> for Kirk to fall in love with.

Barbara Anderson, of IRONSIDE and Mission impossible theme.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> atropos@mac.com wrote:
>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>> atropos@mac.com wrote:
>
>>>> This episode doesn't make much sense.
>>>>
>>>> First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>>>> power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>>>> the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>>>> on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>>>> massacre of 4000 people.
>>>>
>>>> Then we're told that there are only nine people alive who survived the
>>>> massacre and could identify Kodos, to include Kirk and a young
>>>> Enterprise officer named Reilly.
>>>>
>>>> This makes no sense. The historical tapes clearly say Kodos only killed
>>>> half the colonists. That means there should be 4000 people who could
>>>> identify him. It's not like Kodos was just some random schlub. He was
>>>> the governor of their colony. Why wouldn't they all be able to identify
>>>> him?
>>>
>>> It's been awhile, but I thought that most of the 4K he didn't kill died
>>> anyway or died later, either by natural causes or by him whenever his
>>> troupe was in town.
>>
>> It's ridiculous to suggest that 3,991 people all managed to die off in
>> just 20 years. And it's even more ridiculous to suggest that the blonde
>> girl who was killing off the nine people left had somehow managed all on
>> her own to kill off thousands of people before them one by one and never
>> get caught.
>>
>> And why do they need people to identify Kodos anyway? He was the leader
>> of the colony. Politicians have their pictures taken all the time. There
>> would be plenty of photos that could be used to identify him. Hell, Kirk
>> pulled one up on the Enterprise's computer when he first started to
>> suspect.
>
> If memory serves, he wasn't the governor, but an usurper who seized power,

No, he was the real governor, he just declared martial law when the famine
hit.

> so he might not have been a well-known person at the time. I can see him
> not making any public appearances and just broadcasting edicts from a radio
> studio under a nom de guerre, then blended in with the crowd when the
> Federation arrived.
>
>
> but if he was hiding as a fugitive under a new identity,

That’s what he was doing 20 years later.

why was he in such a
> high-profile position? Did he want to be found at some level?
>
> --
> Let's go Brandon!
>
>
>

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> In article
> <638218420.715693453.193706.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> This episode doesn't make much sense.
>>>
>>> First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>>> power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>>> the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>>> on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>>> massacre of 4000 people.
>>
>> I’ve always wondered how you quickly and painlessly kill 4000 people.
>
> And if they were all killed quickly and painlessly, why did Kirk's
> friend at the beginning have half his face mutilated?

Well, we’re left to assume that that’s where he got his face messed up. But
we don’t actually know that. In fact, we don’t even know his face is messed
up. We just know he’s pretty much crazy.

>
>>> Then we're told that there are only nine people alive who survived the
>>> massacre and could identify Kodos, to include Kirk and a young
>>> Enterprise officer named Reilly.
>>>
>>> This makes no sense. The historical tapes clearly say Kodos only killed
>>> half the colonists. That means there should be 4000 people who could
>>> identify him. It's not like Kodos was just some random schlub. He was
>>> the governor of their colony. Why wouldn't they all be able to identify
>>> him?
>>
>> According to Spock, there were only nine survivors who had ever seen Kodos
>> with their own eyes. Apparently, for some reason that makes the difference.
>> Maybe nobody trusts videotape in the future?
>
> So out of the 4000 people who lived, only nine people-- one of whom was
> barely more than a baby-- ever looked at him in person?

Sure. I’ve only ever seen one governor of Arizona in person. Even though
mom and/or dad knew a lot of them.

>
>>> And the inclusion of Reilly on the list of nine is also bizarre. You can
>>> tell just by looking at him that he's barely in his 20s and the Kodos
>>> massacre happened 20 years before, which means at best he'd have been a
>>> toddler when it happened and wouldn't be able to identify anyone from
>>> back then.
>>
>> Yeah, that's always been a problem. The actor was 25 at the time.
>> Eyewitness identification by a preschooler?
>
> Even Kirk would have been what? 10, maybe 12 years old?
>

Kirks age is given as 35 in season two, so he’d have been about 34 here, or
14 at the time of the massacre.

> Four thousand colonists and no one's looking at their own governor
> directly except nine people, two of whom are children?
>
> What kind of drugs were the writers of this episode on?

They were thinking about 1946 and how many people saw their leaders in
person? If they did, it would be on a balcony at a distance.

>
> Also, I forgot another thing that didn't make sense: when Kirk has the
> computer run the list of nine and hears Reilly's name, he makes a point
> of transferring Reilly from his post down to the dark bowels of the
> ship. I assumed Kirk was setting Reilly up as bait, to put him somewhere
> he'd be vulnerable to lure the killer out and catch him. But no. Kirk
> just transferred him down there and then forgot about him, where he was
> nearly murdered. Why the hell did Kirk do that?
>

He was trying to keep Riley away from the Karidian players. He didn’t want
them to see Riley or Riley to see them. Although you’d think there must be
a room where he wouldn’t have solo duty.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>> atropos@mac.com wrote:
>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>> atropos@mac.com wrote:

>>>>> This episode doesn't make much sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>>>>> power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>>>>> the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>>>>> on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>>>>> massacre of 4000 people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then we're told that there are only nine people alive who survived the
>>>>> massacre and could identify Kodos, to include Kirk and a young
>>>>> Enterprise officer named Reilly.
>>>>>
>>>>> This makes no sense. The historical tapes clearly say Kodos only killed
>>>>> half the colonists. That means there should be 4000 people who could
>>>>> identify him. It's not like Kodos was just some random schlub. He was
>>>>> the governor of their colony. Why wouldn't they all be able to identify
>>>>> him?
>>>>
>>>> It's been awhile, but I thought that most of the 4K he didn't kill died
>>>> anyway or died later, either by natural causes or by him whenever his
>>>> troupe was in town.
>>>
>>> It's ridiculous to suggest that 3,991 people all managed to die off in
>>> just 20 years. And it's even more ridiculous to suggest that the blonde
>>> girl who was killing off the nine people left had somehow managed all on
>>> her own to kill off thousands of people before them one by one and never
>>> get caught.
>>>
>>> And why do they need people to identify Kodos anyway? He was the leader
>>> of the colony. Politicians have their pictures taken all the time. There
>>> would be plenty of photos that could be used to identify him. Hell, Kirk
>>> pulled one up on the Enterprise's computer when he first started to
>>> suspect.
>>
>> If memory serves, he wasn't the governor, but an usurper who seized power,
>
>No, he was the real governor, he just declared martial law when the famine
>hit.

Like I said, it's been a long time since i watched it.

--
Let's go Brandon!

Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>> atropos@mac.com wrote:
>>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>> atropos@mac.com wrote:
>
>>>>>> This episode doesn't make much sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>>>>>> power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>>>>>> the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>>>>>> on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>>>>>> massacre of 4000 people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then we're told that there are only nine people alive who survived the
>>>>>> massacre and could identify Kodos, to include Kirk and a young
>>>>>> Enterprise officer named Reilly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This makes no sense. The historical tapes clearly say Kodos only killed
>>>>>> half the colonists. That means there should be 4000 people who could
>>>>>> identify him. It's not like Kodos was just some random schlub. He was
>>>>>> the governor of their colony. Why wouldn't they all be able to identify
>>>>>> him?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's been awhile, but I thought that most of the 4K he didn't kill died
>>>>> anyway or died later, either by natural causes or by him whenever his
>>>>> troupe was in town.
>>>>
>>>> It's ridiculous to suggest that 3,991 people all managed to die off in
>>>> just 20 years. And it's even more ridiculous to suggest that the blonde
>>>> girl who was killing off the nine people left had somehow managed all on
>>>> her own to kill off thousands of people before them one by one and never
>>>> get caught.
>>>>
>>>> And why do they need people to identify Kodos anyway? He was the leader
>>>> of the colony. Politicians have their pictures taken all the time. There
>>>> would be plenty of photos that could be used to identify him. Hell, Kirk
>>>> pulled one up on the Enterprise's computer when he first started to
>>>> suspect.
>>>
>>> If memory serves, he wasn't the governor, but an usurper who seized power,
>>
>> No, he was the real governor, he just declared martial law when the famine
>> hit.
>
> Like I said, it's been a long time since i watched it.

:)

>
> --
> Let's go Brandon!
>
>

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

On 9/6/2023 7:56 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 9/6/2023 5:07 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> This episode doesn't make much sense.
>>>
>>> First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>>> power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>>> the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>>> on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>>> massacre of 4000 people.
>>
>> I’ve always wondered how you quickly and painlessly kill 4000 people.
>>
> Phasers.
>

Beaming would also work. And he could do it in mass.

Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> On 9/6/2023 7:56 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>> On 9/6/2023 5:07 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> This episode doesn't make much sense.
>>>>
>>>> First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>>>> power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>>>> the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>>>> on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>>>> massacre of 4000 people.
>>>
>>> I’ve always wondered how you quickly and painlessly kill 4000 people.
>>>
>> Phasers.
>>
>
> Beaming would also work. And he could do it in mass.
>

We don’t know that he had transporters. And anytime you try to kill 4000
people six at a time there’s gonna be logistical problems.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>> On 9/6/2023 7:56 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>> On 9/6/2023 5:07 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>>>> This episode doesn't make much sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>>>>> power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>>>>> the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>>>>> on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>>>>> massacre of 4000 people.
>>>>
>>>> I've always wondered how you quickly and painlessly kill 4000 people.
>>>>
>>> Phasers.
>>
>> Beaming would also work. And he could do it in mass.
>
>We don't know that he had transporters. And anytime you try to kill 4000
>people six at a time there's gonna be logistical problems.

Wasn't there an ep about a pair of planets that were doing that?

--
Let's go Brandon!

On 9/7/2023 9:28 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>> On 9/6/2023 7:56 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>> On 9/6/2023 5:07 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> This episode doesn't make much sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>>>>> power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>>>>> the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>>>>> on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>>>>> massacre of 4000 people.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve always wondered how you quickly and painlessly kill 4000 people.
>>>>
>>> Phasers.
>>>
>>
>> Beaming would also work. And he could do it in mass.
>>
>
> We don’t know that he had transporters. And anytime you try to kill 4000
> people six at a time there’s gonna be logistical problems.
>
Why wouldn't the colony have transporters? Bulk cargo transporters
would be even more likely.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>> On 9/6/2023 7:56 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>> On 9/6/2023 5:07 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> This episode doesn't make much sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>>>>>> power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>>>>>> the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>>>>>> on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>>>>>> massacre of 4000 people.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've always wondered how you quickly and painlessly kill 4000 people.
>>>>>
>>>> Phasers.
>>>
>>> Beaming would also work. And he could do it in mass.
>>
>> We don't know that he had transporters. And anytime you try to kill 4000
>> people six at a time there's gonna be logistical problems.
>
> Wasn't there an ep about a pair of planets that were doing that?
>

Yep. But they were willing.

> --
> Let's go Brandon!
>
>

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> On 9/7/2023 9:28 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>> On 9/6/2023 7:56 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>> On 9/6/2023 5:07 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>> This episode doesn't make much sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>>>>>> power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>>>>>> the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>>>>>> on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>>>>>> massacre of 4000 people.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’ve always wondered how you quickly and painlessly kill 4000 people.
>>>>>
>>>> Phasers.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Beaming would also work. And he could do it in mass.
>>>
>>
>> We don’t know that he had transporters. And anytime you try to kill 4000
>> people six at a time there’s gonna be logistical problems.
>>
> Why wouldn't the colony have transporters? Bulk cargo transporters
> would be even more likely.
>

What would a colony world do with transporters? Effective range of them in
the time of TOS is low to medium Earth orbit. They can’t reach anything
except visiting ships that presumably have their own transporters. They
aren’t any good for moving stuff around on the planet surface either; we
know they can’t go through 100 miles of solid rock.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

In article
<1546241736.715804044.185289.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> > On 9/7/2023 9:28 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> >> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> >>> On 9/6/2023 7:56 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> >>>> On 9/6/2023 5:07 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> >>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> This episode doesn't make much sense.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
> >>>>>> power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
> >>>>>> the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
> >>>>>> on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
> >>>>>> massacre of 4000 people.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I¹ve always wondered how you quickly and painlessly kill 4000 people.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Phasers.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Beaming would also work. And he could do it in mass.
> >>>
> >>
> >> We don¹t know that he had transporters. And anytime you try to kill 4000
> >> people six at a time there¹s gonna be logistical problems.
> >>
> > Why wouldn't the colony have transporters? Bulk cargo transporters
> > would be even more likely.
> >
>
> What would a colony world do with transporters? Effective range of them in
> the time of TOS is low to medium Earth orbit. They can¹t reach anything
> except visiting ships that presumably have their own transporters. They
> aren¹t any good for moving stuff around on the planet surface either; we
> know they can¹t go through 100 miles of solid rock.

Relay satellites would take care of that problem.

I think there must be a limiting factor with transporters because, in
the first film, we see Kirk arrive in San Francisco via shuttle instead
of simply beaming there. My guess is that transporter frequencies
surrounding Earth are jam-packed with traffic.

On Sep 7, 2023 at 11:36:06 AM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>> On 9/7/2023 9:28 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>> On 9/6/2023 7:56 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>>> On 9/6/2023 5:07 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> This episode doesn't make much sense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First we're told that Governor Kodos of Tarsus IV seized dictatorial
>>>>>>> power during a famine and as the Thanos of his time, decreed that half
>>>>>>> the population would be put death so that the other half could survive
>>>>>>> on the remaining food. There were 8000 colonists, which resulted in a
>>>>>>> massacre of 4000 people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve always wondered how you quickly and painlessly kill 4000 people.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Phasers.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Beaming would also work. And he could do it in mass.
>>>>
>>>
>>> We don’t know that he had transporters. And anytime you try to kill 4000
>>> people six at a time there’s gonna be logistical problems.
>>>
>> Why wouldn't the colony have transporters? Bulk cargo transporters
>> would be even more likely.
>>
>
> What would a colony world do with transporters?

Beam to other parts of the planet. I'd love to be able to take the girlfriend
to Paris for a romantic dinner on the Champs-Élysées, then just beam back to
our house afterward. Or spend a luxurious day on the beaches of Bora Bora and
be back home in time for Sunday Night Football.

Or even just beam to work. Many a day sitting in L.A. traffic, I fantasized
about how nice it would be if we had transporters and I could just step on a
pad in my laundry room and materialize in my office 30 miles away.