On 10/24/23 12:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <waLZM.167659$0UVe.134056@fx17.iad>,
> trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/24/23 1:51 AM, FPP wrote:
>>> On 10/23/23 11:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> In article <1uGZM.86051$%WT8.54509@fx12.iad>,
>>>>   moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/23/2023 8:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/23/2023 5:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2023 at 2:02:38 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/23/2023 4:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The U.S. State Department is urging American citizens to leave
>>>>>>>>>> Lebanon and is offering to pay for their flights but only as a
>>>>>>>>>> *loan*.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here are five things the United States government is more than
>>>>>>>>>> happy to spend money on instead of the safety of its citizens
>>>>>>>>>> in a war zone:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. $75B+ to Ukraine
>>>>>>>>>> 2. $6.97M to research "anal print" smart toilets
>>>>>>>>>> 3. $477,000 for transgender monkeys research
>>>>>>>>>> 4. $465,000 for casinos so that pigeons can study gambling
>>>>>>>>>> 5. $25,000 for Chinese surfers
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But if you're an American being surrounded by bloodthirsty
>>>>>>>>>> barbarians in Lebanon, you have to pay back the cost of your
>>>>>>>>>> flight to escape the country because Uncle Sam needs that money.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, more or less at random, I picked one of those to Google...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "$465,000 for casinos so that pigeons can study gambling"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...and, lo, I discovered...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Researchers at Oregon's Reed College are hoping to learn about the
>>>>>>>>> behavioral economics that drive gambling addictions in humans by
>>>>>>>>> teaching pigeons how to play slot machines."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...which somehow sounds less manipulated for effect. Your thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> $465,000 taxpayer dollars
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we can tell Americans who are trying to evacuate a war zone to pay
>>>>>>>> for it themselves, then the pigeon gamblers can pay for their own
>>>>>>>> research, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you're suggesting that a cautionary evacuation automatically takes
>>>>>>> priority over seeking to cure a widespread destructive behavioral
>>>>>>> addiction, then your expert insight into both far exceeds mine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seeking cures for gamblers who lack the self-control to keep from
>>>>>> destroying their lives is not the business of government. Evacuating
>>>>>> its citizens from a war zone is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ironically, such a "lack of self-control" may be what's being studied.
>>>>> Silly, I guess, when you obviously already know all about it. Say,
>>>>> which common afflictions *should* the govt. concern itself with?
>>>>
>>>> Common afflictions? Few, if any.
>
>>> Ironically, the Dept of Health exists. Guess what for?
>
>> Come on, we all know such Departments that try and take care of people
>> are examples of "socialism" at work.
>
> No, they're just unconstitutional. Nowhere in Article I, Section 8 is
> the federal government given authority over health. Which is why during
> the Wuhan Flu, Grandpa Badfinger had no power to do things like issue
> lockdown orders and impose mask mandates. Only state governors could do
> that.
>
> Yet somehow we have an entire cabinet department devoted to regulating
> things the federal government has no legal authority to regulate.
>

Judicial Review. Explain why it exists, since it's not in the Constitution.
This should be good.

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On 10/24/23 12:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <09LZM.167658$0UVe.121448@fx17.iad>,
> trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/24/23 1:41 AM, FPP wrote:
>>> On 10/23/23 8:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/23/2023 5:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2023 at 2:02:38 PM PDT, "moviePig"
>>>>>> <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/23/2023 4:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> The U.S. State Department is urging American citizens to leave
>>>>>>>> Lebanon and is offering to pay for their flights but only as
>>>>>>>> a *loan*.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here are five things the United States government is more than
>>>>>>>> happy to spend money on instead of the safety of its citizens in
>>>>>>>> a war zone:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. $75B+ to Ukraine
>>>>>>>> 2. $6.97M to research "anal print" smart toilets
>>>>>>>> 3. $477,000 for transgender monkeys research
>>>>>>>> 4. $465,000 for casinos so that pigeons can study gambling
>>>>>>>> 5. $25,000 for Chinese surfers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But if you're an American being surrounded by bloodthirsty
>>>>>>>> barbarians in Lebanon, you have to pay back the cost of your
>>>>>>>> flight to escape the country because Uncle Sam needs that money.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, more or less at random, I picked one of those to Google...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "$465,000 for casinos so that pigeons can study gambling"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...and, lo, I discovered...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Researchers at Oregon's Reed College are hoping to learn about the
>>>>>>> behavioral economics that drive gambling addictions in humans by
>>>>>>> teaching pigeons how to play slot machines."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...which somehow sounds less manipulated for effect.  Your thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $465,000 taxpayer dollars
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we can tell Americans who are trying to evacuate a war zone to
>>>>>> pay for it themselves, then the pigeon gamblers can pay for their
>>>>>> own research, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're suggesting that a cautionary evacuation automatically takes
>>>>> priority over seeking to cure a widespread destructive behavioral
>>>>> addiction, then your expert insight into both far exceeds mine.
>>>>
>>>> Seeking cures for gamblers who lack the self-control to keep from
>>>> destroying their lives is not the business of government. Evacuating it's
>>>> citizens from a war zone is.
>
>>> Gambling is subject to legislation at both the state and federal level
>>> and otherwise regulates the activity.
>>>
>>> Gambling Disorder is a recognized addiction - even if they didn't get
>>> the Thanny Seal of Disapproval.
>>
>> It kind of makes sense
>
> Shhh... don't tell Effa but gender dysphoria is a recognized mental
> illness, too, which means the troons are not really changing genders,
> contrary to all the leftist propaganda. Men cannot actually be women or
> get pregnant or nurse babies or have periods-- again, contrary to both
> 'progressive' dogma and even U.S. government policy.
>

Yup, that's HALF the story, as usual. Now lurn why it is:

> Gender dysphoria’s inclusion in the DSM is also necessary for access to gender-affirming care — so for The Trevor Project’s DeChants, whether gender dysphoria is in the DSM is partly a pragmatic issue.
>
> “We do need to do more to destigmatize and help folks understand that being trans is not being mentally ill,” he said. “I would like to see moving away from the DSM.”
>
> But for people to get care in the US health care system, the DSM having a diagnostic code for gender dysphoria means that people can get insurance to pay for their care, DeChants said.

It's classified that way so insurance will cover it, dipshit.

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On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 7:40:14 PM UTC-4, FPP wrote:
> On 10/24/23 1:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <ZXGZM.24562$CIO....@fx01.iad>,
> > moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/23/2023 11:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> In article <1uGZM.86051$%WT8....@fx12.iad>,
> >>> moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 10/23/2023 8:06 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>> moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 10/23/2023 5:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2023 at 2:02:38 PM PDT, "moviePig" <pwal...@moviepig.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 10/23/2023 4:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> The U.S. State Department is urging American citizens to leave
> >>>>>>>>> Lebanon
> >>>>>>>>> and is offering to pay for their flights but only as a *loan*.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Here are five things the United States government is more than happy
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> spend money on instead of the safety of its citizens in a war zone:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 1. $75B+ to Ukraine
> >>>>>>>>> 2. $6.97M to research "anal print" smart toilets
> >>>>>>>>> 3. $477,000 for transgender monkeys research
> >>>>>>>>> 4. $465,000 for casinos so that pigeons can study gambling
> >>>>>>>>> 5. $25,000 for Chinese surfers
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> But if you're an American being surrounded by bloodthirsty barbarians
> >>>>>>>>> in Lebanon, you have to pay back the cost of your flight to escape
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> country because Uncle Sam needs that money.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So, more or less at random, I picked one of those to Google...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "$465,000 for casinos so that pigeons can study gambling"
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ...and, lo, I discovered...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Researchers at Oregon's Reed College are hoping to learn about the
> >>>>>>>> behavioral economics that drive gambling addictions in humans by
> >>>>>>>> teaching pigeons how to play slot machines."
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ...which somehow sounds less manipulated for effect. Your thoughts?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> $465,000 taxpayer dollars
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If we can tell Americans who are trying to evacuate a war zone to pay
> >>>>>>> for it themselves, then the pigeon gamblers can pay for their own
> >>>>>>> research, too.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you're suggesting that a cautionary evacuation automatically takes
> >>>>>> priority over seeking to cure a widespread destructive behavioral
> >>>>>> addiction, then your expert insight into both far exceeds mine.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Seeking cures for gamblers who lack the self-control to keep from
> >>>>> destroying their lives is not the business of government. Evacuating it's
> >>>>> citizens from a war zone is.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ironically, such a "lack of self-control" may be what's being studied.
> >>>> Silly, I guess, when you obviously already know all about it. Say,
> >>>> which common afflictions *should* the govt. concern itself with?
> >>>
> >>> Common afflictions? Few, if any.
> >>
> >> Covid?
> >
> > Hardly a common affliction. It was even in the name: Novel SARS-CoV-2.
> > Novel, new, never before seen.
> >
> >> Smoking?
> >
> > Another voluntary behavior whose most effective cure-- stopping (or not
> > starting to begin with-- people can avail themselves of at any time and
> > requires no taxpayer money to study or implement.
> >
> >> Smallpox?
> >
> > When it became a problem, same as Wuhan Flu-- hardly common.
> >
> >> Potential cures for the common cold?
> >
> > Let private labs figure it out. The first one who does will make
> > mountains of money. No need for the government to fund it.

> Most non-asshole people recognize government funding is necessary, and
> agree with it. (Decent people... not selfish self-centered assholes
> like you.)

State run lotteries pander to the poorest and least educated under the guise of lottery proceeds used for public education.

Meanwhile most states have no financial literacy requirements to graduate cuma sum ...Lordie! : "I cant even balance a checkbook!"

> Pew Research: Around eight-in-ten U.S. adults say

... they don't plan financially for the future, because the invisible skygod will see them through difficult times

#gawdbleshuhmerka !

On Oct 24, 2023 at 2:13:12 PM PDT, "Ed Stasiak" <edstasiak1067@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> BTR1701
>>
>> Here are five things the United States government is more than happy to
>> spend
>> money on instead of the safety of its citizens in a war zone:
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg

Shirley Ukraine should be a lot bigger on that graphic at this point.

On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:16:48 PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Oct 24, 2023 at 2:13:12 PM PDT, "Ed Stasiak" <edstas...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> BTR1701
> >>
> >> Here are five things the United States government is more than happy to
> >> spend
> >> money on instead of the safety of its citizens in a war zone:

> > https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg

> Shirley Ukraine should be a lot bigger on that graphic at this point.

Bryant Gumbel says, "What are you talking about? They only get $3 billion." And I said, "Bryant, that's only the foreign aid bill. Look at all of the other trade compacts, economic assistance, military assistance."

I am saying this to you right now -- Israel gets approximately $15 billion a year from the American taxpayers.

https://www.foxnews.com/story/exclusive-traficant-i-was-a-target-i-must-have-been-doing-something-right

----------

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines - thinner blue mime

On Oct 24, 2023 at 6:23:06 PM PDT, "chromebook test"
<chromiumtest56@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:16:48 PM UTC-4, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Oct 24, 2023 at 2:13:12 PM PDT, "Ed Stasiak" <edstas...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> BTR1701
>> >>
>> >> Here are five things the United States government is more than happy to
>> >> spend
>> >> money on instead of the safety of its citizens in a war zone:
>
>> > https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg
>
>> Shirley Ukraine should be a lot bigger on that graphic at this point.
>
> Bryant Gumbel says, "What are you talking about? They only get $3 billion."
> And I said, "Bryant, that's only the foreign aid bill. Look at all of the
> other trade compacts, economic assistance, military assistance."
>
> I am saying this to you right now -- Israel gets approximately $15 billion a
> year from the American taxpayers.

Was talking about Ukraine, not Israel.

On 10/24/23 5:13 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>> BTR1701
>>
>> Here are five things the United States government is more than happy to spend
>> money on instead of the safety of its citizens in a war zone:
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg

Yeah, that money is what gives us leverage. Why do you think Israel
hasn't gone into Gaza and leveled it yet?

We spend that money for our own interests, not theirs.

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edstasiak1067@gmail.com wrote:
> BTR1701
>> Here are five things the United States government is more than happy to
>> spend money on instead of the safety of its citizens in a war zone:
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg

What year is this from? I thought we no longer gave money to Iraq.

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> FPP wrote:
> > Ed Stasiak
> >
> > https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg
>
> Yeah, that money is what gives us leverage.

https://i.postimg.cc/MK8HL9pt/5465465465465.gif

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 12:10:49 AM UTC-4, FPP wrote:
> On 10/24/23 5:13 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
> >> BTR1701
> >>
> >> Here are five things the United States government is more than happy to spend
> >> money on instead of the safety of its citizens in a war zone:
> >
> > https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg

> Yeah, that money is what gives us leverage.

> We spend that money for our own interests, not theirs.

"The Lobby" has over 100,000 members, 17 regional offices, and "a vast pool of donors". Representative Brad Sherman has called AIPAC "the single most important organization in promoting the U.S.-Israel alliance". In addition, the organization has been called one of the most powerful lobbying groups in the United States. (by Bill Clinton, among others)

So if neither strategic nor moral arguments can account for America’s support for Israel, how are we to explain it?

The explanation is the unmatched power of the Israel Lobby.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v28/n06/john-mearsheimer/the-israel-lobby

tags: your government has been hijacked, Mr Dumbass

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 6:49:18 PM UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 12:10:49 AM UTC-4, FPP wrote:
> > On 10/24/23 5:13 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
> > >> BTR1701
> > >>
> > >> Here are five things the United States government is more than happy to spend
> > >> money on instead of the safety of its citizens in a war zone:
> > >
> > > https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg
>
>
>
> > Yeah, that money is what gives us leverage.
> > We spend that money for our own interests, not theirs.
> "The Lobby" has over 100,000 members, 17 regional offices, and "a vast pool of donors". Representative Brad Sherman has called AIPAC "the single most important organization in promoting the U.S.-Israel alliance". In addition, the organization has been called one of the most powerful lobbying groups in the United States. (by Bill Clinton, among others)
>
>
>
> So if neither strategic nor moral arguments can account for America’s support for Israel, how are we to explain it?
>
> The explanation is the unmatched power of the Israel Lobby.
>
> https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v28/n06/john-mearsheimer/the-israel-lobby

New U.S. House Speaker Johnson: "The first bill that I'm going to bring to this floor
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1717257619897725068

> tags: your government has been hijacked, Mr Dumbass

On 10/25/23 5:44 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>> FPP wrote:
>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>
>>> https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg
>>
>> Yeah, that money is what gives us leverage.
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/MK8HL9pt/5465465465465.gif
>

You think baby killers released 4 hostages because they're great
humanitarians?

You think Bibi hasn't gone in to Gaza with guns a-blazin' because HE'S a
great humanitarian?

Wake up.

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On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 9:19:30 PM UTC-4, FPP wrote:
> On 10/25/23 5:44 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
> >> FPP wrote:
> >>> Ed Stasiak
> >>>
> >>> https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg
> >>
> >> Yeah, that money is what gives us leverage.

> > https://i.postimg.cc/MK8HL9pt/5465465465465.gif

> You think Bibi hasn't gone in to Gaza with guns a-blazin' because HE'S a
> great humanitarian?

Bibi hasn't gone into Gaza because a ground assault will result in MASSIVE Israeli causalities

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 9:23:35 PM UTC-4, chromebook test wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 9:19:30 PM UTC-4, FPP wrote:
> > On 10/25/23 5:44 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
> > >> FPP wrote:
> > >>> Ed Stasiak
> > >>>
> > >>> https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg

> > >> Yeah, that money is what gives us leverage.

> > > https://i.postimg.cc/MK8HL9pt/5465465465465.gif

> > You think Bibi hasn't gone in to Gaza with guns a-blazin' because HE'S a
> > great humanitarian?

> Bibi hasn't gone into Gaza because a ground assault will result in MASSIVE Israeli causalities

Netanyahu must be cautious, too, because of the danger a ground invasion poses to Israel’s own troops, which could die in large numbers. “There is the risk of stepping into a very dangerous trap,” warned a former Israeli senior security official, explaining the caution.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/many-reasons-netanyahu-may-delaying-israeli-ground-offensive-gaza-rcna122012

On 10/25/23 8:19 PM, FPP wrote:
> On 10/25/23 5:44 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>> FPP wrote:
>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>>
>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg
>>>
>>> Yeah, that money is what gives us leverage.
>>
>> https://i.postimg.cc/MK8HL9pt/5465465465465.gif
>>
>
> You think baby killers released 4 hostages because they're great
> humanitarians?
>
> You think Bibi hasn't gone in to Gaza with guns a-blazin' because HE'S a
> great humanitarian?
>
> Wake up.

This I agree with. However, I did hear an 85 year old lady released by
Hamas say they gave them mattresses to sleep on in their tunnels, which
didn't sound nearly as terroristic as I expected.

On 10/26/23 4:36 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 10/25/23 8:19 PM, FPP wrote:
>> On 10/25/23 5:44 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>> FPP wrote:
>>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>>>
>>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, that money is what gives us leverage.
>>>
>>> https://i.postimg.cc/MK8HL9pt/5465465465465.gif
>>>
>>
>> You think baby killers released 4 hostages because they're great
>> humanitarians?
>>
>> You think Bibi hasn't gone in to Gaza with guns a-blazin' because HE'S
>> a great humanitarian?
>>
>> Wake up.
>
>
> This I agree with.  However, I did hear an 85 year old lady released by
> Hamas say they gave them mattresses to sleep on in their tunnels, which
> didn't sound nearly as terroristic as I expected.
>

Some hostages were taken by Hamas.
Others by Islamic Jihad.
And still others were taken by ordinary Gazan citizens who went along
with the terrorists and took hostages for their own personal reasons.

I don't know exactly who took who, or why.

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On 10/26/2023 6:25 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 10/26/23 4:36 AM, trotsky wrote:
>> On 10/25/23 8:19 PM, FPP wrote:
>>> On 10/25/23 5:44 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>>> FPP wrote:
>>>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, that money is what gives us leverage.
>>>>
>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/MK8HL9pt/5465465465465.gif
>>>>
>>>
>>> You think baby killers released 4 hostages because they're great
>>> humanitarians?
>>>
>>> You think Bibi hasn't gone in to Gaza with guns a-blazin' because
>>> HE'S a great humanitarian?
>>>
>>> Wake up.
>>
>>
>> This I agree with.  However, I did hear an 85 year old lady released
>> by Hamas say they gave them mattresses to sleep on in their tunnels,
>> which didn't sound nearly as terroristic as I expected.
>>
>
> Some hostages were taken by Hamas.
> Others by Islamic Jihad.
> And still others were taken by ordinary Gazan citizens who went along
> with the terrorists and took hostages for their own personal reasons.
>
> I don't know exactly who took who, or why.

Well, it does make favorable press when each one is released...

On 10/26/2023 6:25 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 10/26/23 4:36 AM, trotsky wrote:
>> On 10/25/23 8:19 PM, FPP wrote:
>>> On 10/25/23 5:44 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>>> FPP wrote:
>>>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, that money is what gives us leverage.
>>>>
>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/MK8HL9pt/5465465465465.gif
>>>>
>>>
>>> You think baby killers released 4 hostages because they're great
>>> humanitarians?
>>>
>>> You think Bibi hasn't gone in to Gaza with guns a-blazin' because
>>> HE'S a great humanitarian?
>>>
>>> Wake up.
>>
>>
>> This I agree with.  However, I did hear an 85 year old lady released
>> by Hamas say they gave them mattresses to sleep on in their tunnels,
>> which didn't sound nearly as terroristic as I expected.
>>
>
> Some hostages were taken by Hamas.
> Others by Islamic Jihad.
> And still others were taken by ordinary Gazan citizens who went along
> with the terrorists and took hostages for their own personal reasons.
>
> I don't know exactly who took who, or why.

Well, it does make favorable press when each one is released...

On 10/26/23 1:34 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 10/26/2023 6:25 AM, FPP wrote:
>> On 10/26/23 4:36 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 10/25/23 8:19 PM, FPP wrote:
>>>> On 10/25/23 5:44 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>>>> FPP wrote:
>>>>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, that money is what gives us leverage.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/MK8HL9pt/5465465465465.gif
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You think baby killers released 4 hostages because they're great
>>>> humanitarians?
>>>>
>>>> You think Bibi hasn't gone in to Gaza with guns a-blazin' because
>>>> HE'S a great humanitarian?
>>>>
>>>> Wake up.
>>>
>>>
>>> This I agree with.  However, I did hear an 85 year old lady released
>>> by Hamas say they gave them mattresses to sleep on in their tunnels,
>>> which didn't sound nearly as terroristic as I expected.
>>>
>>
>> Some hostages were taken by Hamas.
>> Others by Islamic Jihad.
>> And still others were taken by ordinary Gazan citizens who went along
>> with the terrorists and took hostages for their own personal reasons.
>>
>> I don't know exactly who took who, or why.
>
> Well, it does make favorable press when each one is released...

And maybe in a couple of years, we'll find out what really happened
behind the scenes.

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On 10/26/23 12:33 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 10/26/2023 6:25 AM, FPP wrote:
>> On 10/26/23 4:36 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 10/25/23 8:19 PM, FPP wrote:
>>>> On 10/25/23 5:44 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>>>> FPP wrote:
>>>>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, that money is what gives us leverage.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/MK8HL9pt/5465465465465.gif
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You think baby killers released 4 hostages because they're great
>>>> humanitarians?
>>>>
>>>> You think Bibi hasn't gone in to Gaza with guns a-blazin' because
>>>> HE'S a great humanitarian?
>>>>
>>>> Wake up.
>>>
>>>
>>> This I agree with.  However, I did hear an 85 year old lady released
>>> by Hamas say they gave them mattresses to sleep on in their tunnels,
>>> which didn't sound nearly as terroristic as I expected.
>>>
>>
>> Some hostages were taken by Hamas.
>> Others by Islamic Jihad.
>> And still others were taken by ordinary Gazan citizens who went along
>> with the terrorists and took hostages for their own personal reasons.
>>
>> I don't know exactly who took who, or why.
>
> Well, it does make favorable press when each one is released...

Conversely it makes for unfavorable press when the number of civilians
killed by Israel is detailed.

On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 5:02:33 AM UTC-4, trotsky wrote:
> On 10/26/23 12:33 PM, moviePig wrote:
> > On 10/26/2023 6:25 AM, FPP wrote:
> >> On 10/26/23 4:36 AM, trotsky wrote:
> >>> On 10/25/23 8:19 PM, FPP wrote:
> >>>> On 10/25/23 5:44 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
> >>>>>> FPP wrote:
> >>>>>>> Ed Stasiak
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yeah, that money is what gives us leverage.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/MK8HL9pt/5465465465465.gif
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You think baby killers released 4 hostages because they're great
> >>>> humanitarians?
> >>>>
> >>>> You think Bibi hasn't gone in to Gaza with guns a-blazin' because
> >>>> HE'S a great humanitarian?
> >>>>
> >>>> Wake up.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This I agree with. However, I did hear an 85 year old lady released
> >>> by Hamas say they gave them mattresses to sleep on in their tunnels,
> >>> which didn't sound nearly as terroristic as I expected.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Some hostages were taken by Hamas.
> >> Others by Islamic Jihad.
> >> And still others were taken by ordinary Gazan citizens who went along
> >> with the terrorists and took hostages for their own personal reasons.
> >>
> >> I don't know exactly who took who, or why.
> >
> > Well, it does make favorable press when each one is released...

> Conversely it makes for unfavorable press when the number of civilians
> killed by Israel is detailed.

Looked at sky through smoke heavy with human fat and God was not there. This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us.

On 10/27/2023 3:19 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 10/26/23 1:34 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 10/26/2023 6:25 AM, FPP wrote:
>>> On 10/26/23 4:36 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>> On 10/25/23 8:19 PM, FPP wrote:
>>>>> On 10/25/23 5:44 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>>>>>> FPP wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/d0gm48KP/84765468768.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, that money is what gives us leverage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/MK8HL9pt/5465465465465.gif
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You think baby killers released 4 hostages because they're great
>>>>> humanitarians?
>>>>>
>>>>> You think Bibi hasn't gone in to Gaza with guns a-blazin' because
>>>>> HE'S a great humanitarian?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wake up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This I agree with.  However, I did hear an 85 year old lady released
>>>> by Hamas say they gave them mattresses to sleep on in their tunnels,
>>>> which didn't sound nearly as terroristic as I expected.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Some hostages were taken by Hamas.
>>> Others by Islamic Jihad.
>>> And still others were taken by ordinary Gazan citizens who went along
>>> with the terrorists and took hostages for their own personal reasons.
>>>
>>> I don't know exactly who took who, or why.
>>
>> Well, it does make favorable press when each one is released...
>
>
> And maybe in a couple of years, we'll find out what really happened
> behind the scenes.

Maybe. And, even then we won't be sure it's the truth.