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Decima for Decima

Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth Norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Chaos string
Night-swim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.

-Will Dockery

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From the Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
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 by: W.Dockery - Mon, 1 May 2023 23:57 UTC

Decima for Decima

Decima, aim your rod to screen
Film into the eyeless abyss
To a level in lighted mist
Tenth Norn of afterimage dream
Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
Born illuminated and queer
Shake fate infinity mirror
Glowing light child of Chaos string
Night-swim bouncing and measuring
A weird sister without anger.

-Will Dockery

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On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:00:15 PM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> Decima for Decima

A Decima consists of 44 lines. I realize that Donkeys have difficulty counting, but had you included your toes as well as your fingers, you'd be almost halfway there.

> Decima, aim your rod to screen
> Film into the eyeless abyss
> To a level in lighted mist

Is "Decima" another nickname for one of your past conquests? That would almost make sense of the poem's title (if the poem were even remotely akin to a Decima).

Do you think that a "rod" is some sort of projectile? An arrow, perhaps? It's actually a wooden club.

How would a weapon screen (filter) film from an abyss? Why, for that matter, would an abyss be filmy to begin with?

And, since an abyss would be, by definition, "bottomless" (or seemingly so), where is the light coming from? And how does one bring mist to a level?

AFAICS, a woman (inexplicably nicknamed "Decima") is being asked to aim her wooden club at an abyss in order to filter out some of the mist, and to bring said mist to a "level."

If that doesn't make a lick of sense, it's because half of the words you've chosen to use don't quite mean what you think them to.

> Tenth Norn of afterimage dream

1/10th of a dead (Norse) language is the afterimage of a dream?

I'm afraid that you're way over your head in this one, Donkey. As always, you need to stick to monosyllabic words -- and, even then, only with proper supervision.

> Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
> Born illuminated and queer

"Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam" is an excellent line. It makes no sense in relation to any other portion of the poem (except, possibly that which immediately follows), but it's one of your better thought fragments.

"Born illuminated and queer" is unintentionally funny in today's environment -- but even if we can get over the homosexual implications, the idea of ghosts being "born queer" remains laughable.

> Shake fate infinity mirror

Are you telling the "fate infinity mirror" to shake? Or does the mirror display reflections of "shake fate (whatever that might be) infinity"?

> Glowing light child of Chaos string

Is the "Glowing light child" one of the "illuminated" "ghosts"? Or has this fragment introduced a new character into the narrative?

> Night-swim bouncing and measuring

So... the narrator is imagining all of this while taking a nighttime swim?

> A weird sister without anger.

And measuring one of the Fates (or perhaps his eccentric sister) in the process?

> -Will Dockery
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Once again, we're presenting with a string of thought fragments that appear to be connected by only the slightest form of word association.

The basic narrative (and calling it a "narrative" is a profound act of charitability on my part) runs as follows:

The speaker is purportedly writing a 10-line, non-repetitive version of a Decima for a woman he has nicknamed "Decima." He calls on her to aim her wooden club at an abyss in order to filter out some of the mist, and to bring said mist to a "level." In the lingering afterimage of a dream, he sees 1/10th of a dead Norse language. In the meantime, illuminated LGBT ghosts are spotted in a nest within the abyss. One of these ghosts is the "light child of Chaos" -- revealed when the infinite mirror of fate is shaken. (FYI, I've just done you a solid by handing you the phrase "infinite mirror of fate" on a silver platter.) The speaker has imagined all the above while taking a nighttime swim with one of the Fates whom he is measuring (36-24-36) in a calm, dispassionate manner.

Yeesh!

Is this the record of an LSD trip during your "Shamanic" days?

That's the only thing that even begins to make any sense of it.

I'm sure that your "mystical" vision struck you as a profoundly moving experience at the time, however, to the average reader (even one familiar with drug-induced "revelations"), it's a rambling and incoherent glob of gobbledygook served up at a party one would do anything to leave.

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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 2 May 2023 16:57 UTC

Thanks for reading and commenting, Pendragon.

I'm on the road right now, so I'll respond in detail when I return to the off.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 2 May 2023 17:43 UTC

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:57:06 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Thanks for reading and commenting, Pendragon.
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> I'm on the road right now, so I'll respond in detail when I return to the off.

When have you ever been off of the "off"?

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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 2 May 2023 17:47 UTC

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 1:43:46 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:57:06 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
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> > Thanks for reading and commenting, Pendragon.
> >
> > I'm on the road right now, so I'll respond in detail when I return to the office.

Typo corrected ^^^^^^^

> When have you ever been off of the "off"?

That was a hasty typo, should have been "office."

HTH and HAND.

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Thanks for reading and commenting, Pendragon.

I'm on the road right now, so I'll respond in detail when I return to the office.

HTH and HAND.

(Typo corrected.)

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 by: Will Dockery - Tue, 2 May 2023 20:15 UTC

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:00:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
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> > Décima for Décima
>
> A Decima consists of 44 lines

No, ten lines:

https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/D%C3%A9cima

***

Décima
A décima refers to a ten-line stanza of poetry

***

Hope this helps and have a nice day.

:)

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Tue, 2 May 2023 23:13 UTC

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 4:15:40 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:00:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > Décima for Décima
> >
> > A Decima consists of 44 lines
> No, ten lines:
>
> https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/D%C3%A9cima
>
> ***
>
> Décima
> A décima refers to a ten-line stanza of poetry
>
> ***
>

Serves me right for not Googling it before responding.

I was thinking of the Ecudorian version:

"In Ecuador, the decima is a 44-line poem comprised of a quatrain and four 10-line stanzas. Each of the lines from the opening quatrain are repeated later in the poem. The lines still retain eight syllables, though the rhyme constraints are loosened."

https://www.writersdigest.com/write-better-poetry/decima-poetic-forms

As I believe I may have previously stated, I had never heard of the decima until I joined AAPC.

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 by: W-Dockery - Tue, 2 May 2023 23:52 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 4:15:40 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:00:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >
>> > > Décima for Décima
>> >
>> > A Decima consists of 44 lines
>> No, ten lines:
>>
>> https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/D%C3%A9cima
>>
>> ***
>>
>> Décima
>> A décima refers to a ten-line stanza of poetry
>>
>> ***
>>

> Serves me right for not Googling it before responding.

> I was thinking of the Ecudorian version:

> "In Ecuador, the decima is a 44-line poem comprised of a quatrain and four 10-line stanzas. Each of the lines from the opening quatrain are repeated later in the poem. The lines still retain eight syllables, though the rhyme constraints are loosened."

> https://www.writersdigest.com/write-better-poetry/decima-poetic-forms

> As I believe I may have previously stated, I had never heard of the decima until I joined AAPC.

Try writing one or two, now.

🙂

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 3 May 2023 02:41 UTC

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 7:55:15 PM UTC-4, W-Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 4:15:40 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> > On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:00:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Décima for Décima
> >> >
> >> > A Decima consists of 44 lines
> >> No, ten lines:
> >>
> >> https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/D%C3%A9cima
> >>
> >> ***
> >>
> >> Décima
> >> A décima refers to a ten-line stanza of poetry
> >>
> >> ***
> >>
>
> > Serves me right for not Googling it before responding.
>
> > I was thinking of the Ecudorian version:
>
> > "In Ecuador, the decima is a 44-line poem comprised of a quatrain and four 10-line stanzas. Each of the lines from the opening quatrain are repeated later in the poem. The lines still retain eight syllables, though the rhyme constraints are loosened."
>
> > https://www.writersdigest.com/write-better-poetry/decima-poetic-forms
>
> > As I believe I may have previously stated, I had never heard of the decima until I joined AAPC.
> Try writing one or two, now.

Sorry, Donkey -- not my thing.

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 by: W-Dockery - Wed, 3 May 2023 04:06 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 7:55:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:00:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Décima for Décima
>> >> >
>> >> > A Decima consists of 44 lines
>> >> No, ten lines:
>> >>
>> >> https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/D%C3%A9cima
>> >>
>> >> ***
>> >>
>> >> Décima
>> >> A décima refers to a ten-line stanza of poetry
>> >>
>> >> ***
>> >>
>>
>> > Serves me right for not Googling it before responding.
>>
>> > I was thinking of the Ecudorian version:
>>
>> > "In Ecuador, the decima is a 44-line poem comprised of a quatrain and four 10-line stanzas. Each of the lines from the opening quatrain are repeated later in the poem. The lines still retain eight syllables, though the rhyme constraints are loosened."
>>
>> > https://www.writersdigest.com/write-better-poetry/decima-poetic-forms
>>
>> > As I believe I may have previously stated, I had never heard of the decima until I joined AAPC.
>> Try writing one or two, now.

> Sorry, Donkey -- not my thing.

Okay, monkey, to each his own.

😊

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 by: W.Dockery - Wed, 3 May 2023 14:26 UTC

> Decima for Decima

> Decima, aim your rod to screen
> Film into the eyeless abyss
> To a level in lighted mist
> Tenth Norn of afterimage dream
> Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
> Born illuminated and queer
> Shake fate infinity mirror
> Glowing light child of Chaos string
> Night-swim bouncing and measuring
> A weird sister without anger.

> -Will Dockery

> ----
> From the Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/

Note to Pendragon:

A rod as in "wand", and of course, "fishing rod".

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/rod

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 3 May 2023 15:19 UTC

On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 10:30:18 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > Decima for Decima
>
> > Decima, aim your rod to screen
> > Film into the eyeless abyss
> > To a level in lighted mist
> > Tenth Norn of afterimage dream
> > Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
> > Born illuminated and queer
> > Shake fate infinity mirror
> > Glowing light child of Chaos string
> > Night-swim bouncing and measuring
> > A weird sister without anger.
>
> > -Will Dockery
>
> > ----
> > From the Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> > https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> Note to Pendragon:
>
> A rod as in "wand", and of course, "fishing rod".
>
> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/rod

You're confusing the word "wand" with that of a "magic wand."

Technically a "wand" means a slender stick used for corporal punishment in the above definition (as more clearly specified in Wikipedia):

In literary language, "wand" can be a synonym for rod as an implement for corporal punishment, in the generic sense: either a multiple rod or a single branch (switch or cane), but not a specific physical type.

[END QUOTE]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wand

However, magickal rods have become part of the D&D lexicon, so rod is allowable.

But why would you choose a magickal rod over a magick wand? Since "Decima" is a woman, wouldn't a slender wand be more appropriate for a sorceress?

And, since most people are not going to think of a "magick staff" (I've been playing D&D style computer games for 30+ years and didn't make the connection), why would you choose it over the more readily understood "wand?"

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 by: Will Dockery - Wed, 3 May 2023 15:21 UTC

On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 11:19:52 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 10:30:18 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > Decima for Decima
> >
> > > Decima, aim your rod to screen
> > > Film into the eyeless abyss
> > > To a level in lighted mist
> > > Tenth Norn of afterimage dream
> > > Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
> > > Born illuminated and queer
> > > Shake fate infinity mirror
> > > Glowing light child of Chaos string
> > > Night-swim bouncing and measuring
> > > A weird sister without anger.
> >
> > > -Will Dockery
> >
> > > ----
> > > From the Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> > > https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > Note to Pendragon:
> >
> > A rod as in "wand", and of course, "fishing rod".
> >
> > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/rod
> You're confusing the word "wand" with that of a "magic wand."
>
> Technically a "wand" means a slender stick used for corporal punishment in the above definition (as more clearly specified in Wikipedia):
>
> In literary language, "wand" can be a synonym for rod as an implement for corporal punishment, in the generic sense: either a multiple rod or a single branch (switch or cane), but not a specific physical type.
>
> [END QUOTE]
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wand
>
> However, magickal rods have become part of the D&D lexicon, so rod is allowable.
>
> But why would you choose a magickal rod over a magick wand? Since "Decima" is a woman, wouldn't a slender wand be more appropriate for a sorceress?
>
> And, since most people are not going to think of a "magick staff" (I've been playing D&D style computer games for 30+ years and didn't make the connection), why would you choose it over the more readily understood "wand?"

Because I wanted to.

🙂

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Wed, 3 May 2023 16:01 UTC

On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 11:21:59 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 11:19:52 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 10:30:18 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > > Decima for Decima
> > >
> > > > Decima, aim your rod to screen
> > > > Film into the eyeless abyss
> > > > To a level in lighted mist
> > > > Tenth Norn of afterimage dream
> > > > Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
> > > > Born illuminated and queer
> > > > Shake fate infinity mirror
> > > > Glowing light child of Chaos string
> > > > Night-swim bouncing and measuring
> > > > A weird sister without anger.
> > >
> > > > -Will Dockery
> > >
> > > > ----
> > > > From the Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
> > > > https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
> > > Note to Pendragon:
> > >
> > > A rod as in "wand", and of course, "fishing rod".
> > >
> > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/rod
> > You're confusing the word "wand" with that of a "magic wand."
> >
> > Technically a "wand" means a slender stick used for corporal punishment in the above definition (as more clearly specified in Wikipedia):
> >
> > In literary language, "wand" can be a synonym for rod as an implement for corporal punishment, in the generic sense: either a multiple rod or a single branch (switch or cane), but not a specific physical type.
> >
> > [END QUOTE]
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wand
> >
> > However, magickal rods have become part of the D&D lexicon, so rod is allowable.
> >
> > But why would you choose a magickal rod over a magick wand? Since "Decima" is a woman, wouldn't a slender wand be more appropriate for a sorceress?
> >
> > And, since most people are not going to think of a "magick staff" (I've been playing D&D style computer games for 30+ years and didn't make the connection), why would you choose it over the more readily understood "wand?"
> Because I wanted to.

That's an excellent reason, Donkey... for a three-year old.

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 by: W.Dockery - Wed, 3 May 2023 17:36 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 11:21:59 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 11:19:52 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 10:30:18 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> > > > Decima for Decima
>> > >
>> > > > Decima, aim your rod to screen
>> > > > Film into the eyeless abyss
>> > > > To a level in lighted mist
>> > > > Tenth Norn of afterimage dream
>> > > > Nests of ghosts in a webbed beam
>> > > > Born illuminated and queer
>> > > > Shake fate infinity mirror
>> > > > Glowing light child of Chaos string
>> > > > Night-swim bouncing and measuring
>> > > > A weird sister without anger.
>> > >
>> > > > -Will Dockery
>> > >
>> > > > ----
>> > > > From the Shadowville Mythos poetry blog:
>> > > > https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/
>> > > Note to Pendragon:
>> > >
>> > > A rod as in "wand", and of course, "fishing rod".
>> > >
>> > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/rod
>> > You're confusing the word "wand" with that of a "magic wand."
>> >
>> > Technically a "wand" means a slender stick used for corporal punishment in the above definition (as more clearly specified in Wikipedia):
>> >
>> > In literary language, "wand" can be a synonym for rod as an implement for corporal punishment, in the generic sense: either a multiple rod or a single branch (switch or cane), but not a specific physical type.
>> >
>> > [END QUOTE]
>> >
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wand
>> >
>> > However, magickal rods have become part of the D&D lexicon, so rod is allowable.
>> >
>> > But why would you choose a magickal rod over a magick wand? Since "Decima" is a woman, wouldn't a slender wand be more appropriate for a sorceress?
>> >
>> > And, since most people are not going to think of a "magick staff" (I've been playing D&D style computer games for 30+ years and didn't make the connection), why would you choose it over the more readily understood "wand?"
>> Because I wanted to.

> That's an excellent reason, Donkey... for a three-year old.

Good enough, rod worked better for the poem, so that's the word I used.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Will Dockery - Wed, 3 May 2023 18:18 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 7:55:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 4:15:40 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> >> > > Décima for Décima
>> >> >
>> >> > A Decima consists of 44 lines
>> >> No, ten lines:
>> >>
>> >> https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/D%C3%A9cima
>> >>
>> >> ***
>> >>
>> >> Décima
>> >> A décima refers to a ten-line stanza of poetry
>> >>
>> >> ***
>> >>
>>
>> > Serves me right for not Googling it before responding.
>>
>> > I was thinking of the Ecudorian version:
>>
>> > "In Ecuador, the decima is a 44-line poem comprised of a quatrain and four 10-line stanzas. Each of the lines from the opening quatrain are repeated later in the poem. The lines still retain eight syllables, though the rhyme constraints are loosened."
>>
>> > https://www.writersdigest.com/write-better-poetry/decima-poetic-forms
>>
>> > As I believe I may have previously stated, I had never heard of the decima until I joined AAPC.
>> Try writing one or two, now.

> Sorry -- not my thing.

Fair enough, but why not?

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 4 May 2023 02:34 UTC

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 7:13:28 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 4:15:40 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:00:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > > > Décima for Décima
> > >
> > > A Decima consists of 44 lines
> > No, ten lines:
> >
> > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/D%C3%A9cima
> >
> > ***
> >
> > Décima
> > A décima refers to a ten-line stanza of poetry
> >
> > ***
> >
> Serves me right for not Googling it before responding.
>
> I was thinking of the Ecudorian version:
>
> "In Ecuador, the decima is a 44-line poem comprised of a quatrain and four 10-line stanzas. Each of the lines from the opening quatrain are repeated later in the poem. The lines still retain eight syllables, though the rhyme constraints are loosened."
>
> https://www.writersdigest.com/write-better-poetry/decima-poetic-forms
>
> As I believe I may have previously stated, I had never heard of the decima until I joined AAPC.

It was one of the poetry challenges we had here in better times.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 4 May 2023 12:58 UTC

On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 10:34:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 7:13:28 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 4:15:40 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:00:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Décima for Décima
> > > >
> > > > A Decima consists of 44 lines
> > > No, ten lines:
> > >
> > > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/D%C3%A9cima
> > >
> > > ***
> > >
> > > Décima
> > > A décima refers to a ten-line stanza of poetry
> > >
> > > ***
> > >
> > Serves me right for not Googling it before responding.
> >
> > I was thinking of the Ecudorian version:
> >
> > "In Ecuador, the decima is a 44-line poem comprised of a quatrain and four 10-line stanzas. Each of the lines from the opening quatrain are repeated later in the poem. The lines still retain eight syllables, though the rhyme constraints are loosened."
> >
> > https://www.writersdigest.com/write-better-poetry/decima-poetic-forms
> >
> > As I believe I may have previously stated, I had never heard of the decima until I joined AAPC.
> It was one of the poetry challenges we had here in better times.

No doubt. However, I first learned of the form when reading Horatio's poetry book.

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 4 May 2023 14:41 UTC

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 8:58:51 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 10:34:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 7:13:28 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 4:15:40 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:00:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Décima for Décima
> > > > >
> > > > > A Decima consists of 44 lines
> > > > No, ten lines:
> > > >
> > > > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/D%C3%A9cima
> > > >
> > > > ***
> > > >
> > > > Décima
> > > > A décima refers to a ten-line stanza of poetry
> > > >
> > > > ***
> > > >
> > > Serves me right for not Googling it before responding.
> > >
> > > I was thinking of the Ecudorian version:
> > >
> > > "In Ecuador, the decima is a 44-line poem comprised of a quatrain and four 10-line stanzas. Each of the lines from the opening quatrain are repeated later in the poem. The lines still retain eight syllables, though the rhyme constraints are loosened."
> > >
> > > https://www.writersdigest.com/write-better-poetry/decima-poetic-forms
> > >
> > > As I believe I may have previously stated, I had never heard of the decima until I joined AAPC.
> > It was one of the poetry challenges we had here in better times.
> No doubt. However, I first learned of the form when reading Horatio's poetry book.

I liked a lot of Horatio's poetry.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 4 May 2023 14:57 UTC

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:41:22 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 8:58:51 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 10:34:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 7:13:28 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 4:15:40 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:00:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Décima for Décima
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A Decima consists of 44 lines
> > > > > No, ten lines:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/D%C3%A9cima
> > > > >
> > > > > ***
> > > > >
> > > > > Décima
> > > > > A décima refers to a ten-line stanza of poetry
> > > > >
> > > > > ***
> > > > >
> > > > Serves me right for not Googling it before responding.
> > > >
> > > > I was thinking of the Ecudorian version:
> > > >
> > > > "In Ecuador, the decima is a 44-line poem comprised of a quatrain and four 10-line stanzas. Each of the lines from the opening quatrain are repeated later in the poem. The lines still retain eight syllables, though the rhyme constraints are loosened."
> > > >
> > > > https://www.writersdigest.com/write-better-poetry/decima-poetic-forms
> > > >
> > > > As I believe I may have previously stated, I had never heard of the decima until I joined AAPC.
> > > It was one of the poetry challenges we had here in better times.
> > No doubt. However, I first learned of the form when reading Horatio's poetry book.
> I liked a lot of Horatio's poetry.

I doubt that.

Since you don't understand the meaning of such commonplace words as "refund," "return," "paid back," "loan," "passage," and "through," I don't see how you could possibly have understood anything that Horatio (or anyone else) wrote.

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 4 May 2023 15:01 UTC

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:57:01 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:41:22 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 8:58:51 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 10:34:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 7:13:28 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 4:15:40 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:00:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Décima for Décima
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A Decima consists of 44 lines
> > > > > > No, ten lines:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/D%C3%A9cima
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ***
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Décima
> > > > > > A décima refers to a ten-line stanza of poetry
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ***
> > > > > >
> > > > > Serves me right for not Googling it before responding.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was thinking of the Ecudorian version:
> > > > >
> > > > > "In Ecuador, the decima is a 44-line poem comprised of a quatrain and four 10-line stanzas. Each of the lines from the opening quatrain are repeated later in the poem. The lines still retain eight syllables, though the rhyme constraints are loosened."
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.writersdigest.com/write-better-poetry/decima-poetic-forms
> > > > >
> > > > > As I believe I may have previously stated, I had never heard of the decima until I joined AAPC.
> > > > It was one of the poetry challenges we had here in better times.
> > > No doubt. However, I first learned of the form when reading Horatio's poetry book.
> > I liked a lot of Horatio's poetry.
> I doubt that

My comments on Horatio's poetry are archived here.

Look it up.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 4 May 2023 15:11 UTC

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 11:01:12 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:57:01 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:41:22 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 8:58:51 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 10:34:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 7:13:28 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 4:15:40 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:00:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Décima for Décima
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A Decima consists of 44 lines
> > > > > > > No, ten lines:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/D%C3%A9cima
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ***
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Décima
> > > > > > > A décima refers to a ten-line stanza of poetry
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ***
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Serves me right for not Googling it before responding.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was thinking of the Ecudorian version:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "In Ecuador, the decima is a 44-line poem comprised of a quatrain and four 10-line stanzas. Each of the lines from the opening quatrain are repeated later in the poem. The lines still retain eight syllables, though the rhyme constraints are loosened."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.writersdigest.com/write-better-poetry/decima-poetic-forms
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As I believe I may have previously stated, I had never heard of the decima until I joined AAPC.
> > > > > It was one of the poetry challenges we had here in better times.
> > > > No doubt. However, I first learned of the form when reading Horatio's poetry book.
> > > I liked a lot of Horatio's poetry.
> > I doubt that
> My comments on Horatio's poetry are archived here.
>
> Look it up.

You comment on many things which, at most, you barely understand. Why should Horatio's poetry be any different?

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 by: Will Dockery - Thu, 4 May 2023 15:14 UTC

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 11:11:16 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 11:01:12 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:57:01 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:41:22 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 8:58:51 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 10:34:05 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 7:13:28 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 4:15:40 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:00:15 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Décima for Décima
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > A Decima consists of 44 lines
> > > > > > > > No, ten lines:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://pennyspoetry.fandom.com/wiki/D%C3%A9cima
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ***
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Décima
> > > > > > > > A décima refers to a ten-line stanza of poetry
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ***
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Serves me right for not Googling it before responding.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was thinking of the Ecudorian version:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "In Ecuador, the decima is a 44-line poem comprised of a quatrain and four 10-line stanzas. Each of the lines from the opening quatrain are repeated later in the poem. The lines still retain eight syllables, though the rhyme constraints are loosened."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://www.writersdigest.com/write-better-poetry/decima-poetic-forms
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As I believe I may have previously stated, I had never heard of the decima until I joined AAPC.
> > > > > > It was one of the poetry challenges we had here in better times..
> > > > > No doubt. However, I first learned of the form when reading Horatio's poetry book.
> > > > I liked a lot of Horatio's poetry.
> > > I doubt that
> > My comments on Horatio's poetry are archived here.
> >
> > Look it up.
> You comment on many things which, at most, you barely understand. Why should Horatio's poetry be any different?

Maybe I'll repost some of my comments on Horatio's poetry, he seemed to find some of them helpful.

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