Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government will "pay
the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.

Huh? Shouldn’t the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the bill?
It’s like he just can’t wait for any opportunity to fuck the taxpayer.

And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott Key
Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what will its new
name be?

I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".

On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government will "pay
>the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
>
>Huh? Shouldn’t the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the bill?
>It’s like he just can’t wait for any opportunity to fuck the taxpayer.
>
>And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott Key
>Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what will its new
>name be?
>
>I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".
>

The federal government can act to get repairs started today while the
lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government will "pay
>>the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.

>>Huh? Shouldn’t the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the bill?
>>It’s like he just can’t wait for any opportunity to fuck the taxpayer.

>>And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott
>>Key Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what
>>will its new name be?

>>I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".

>The federal government can act to get repairs started today while the
>lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.

The bridge won't be repaired. It'll be 5 to 7 years at least.

Don't you remember St. Petersburg?

On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 03:15:12 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>>Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government will "pay
>>>the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
>
>>>Huh? Shouldn’t the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the bill?
>>>It’s like he just can’t wait for any opportunity to fuck the taxpayer.
>
>>>And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott
>>>Key Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what
>>>will its new name be?
>
>>>I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".
>
>>The federal government can act to get repairs started today while the
>>lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.
>
>The bridge won't be repaired. It'll be 5 to 7 years at least.
>
>Don't you remember St. Petersburg?

I should have said they would get started removing the remnants of the
bridge so that traffic can resume on the river as that is something
that can be done now. Then work on replacing the bridge as it's clear
there's not much, if anything, there to repair.

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>Thu, 28 Mar 2024 03:15:12 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
>>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>>>Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government
>>>>will "pay the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.

>>>>Huh? Shouldn't the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the bill?
>>>>It's like he just can't wait for any opportunity to fuck the taxpayer.

>>>>And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott
>>>>Key Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what
>>>>will its new name be?

>>>>I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".

>>>The federal government can act to get repairs started today while the
>>>lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.

>>The bridge won't be repaired. It'll be 5 to 7 years at least.

>>Don't you remember St. Petersburg?

>I should have said they would get started removing the remnants of the
>bridge so that traffic can resume on the river as that is something
>that can be done now. Then work on replacing the bridge as it's clear
>there's not much, if anything, there to repair.

I've heard that the harbor may reopen by May.

> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 03:15:12 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
> <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government
>>>> will "pay the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
>>>>
>>>> Huh? Shouldn’t the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the
>>>> bill? It’s like he just can’t wait for any opportunity to fuck the
>>>> taxpayer.
>>>>
>>>> And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott
>>>> Key Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what
>>>> will its new name be?
>>>>
>>>> I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".
>>>
>>> The federal government can act to get repairs started today while the
>>> lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.
>>
>> The bridge won't be repaired. It'll be 5 to 7 years at least.
>>
>> Don't you remember St. Petersburg?
>
> I should have said they would get started removing the remnants of the
> bridge so that traffic can resume on the river as that is something
> that can be done now. Then work on replacing the bridge as it's clear
> there's not much, if anything, there to repair.

In New Zealand, a "second" (really it's the third) harbour crossing for
the city of Auckland was suggested way back in the early 1970s ... and
since then they've wasted huge piles of tax-payer money on discussions
and plans for numerous different ideas. Most of the ideas are
completely idiotic since they connect to the same motorway on each side
of the existing harbour bridge, so won't relieve congestion at all.
Many others are massively expensive pie-in-the-sky ideas that will
never happen (rail tunnels when there is no railway on the northern
side, so they'd have to build that as well).

On 3/27/24 9:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government will "pay
> the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
>
> Huh? Shouldn’t the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the bill?
> It’s like he just can’t wait for any opportunity to fuck the taxpayer.
>
> And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott Key
> Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what will its new
> name be?
>
> I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".

Speaking of execution by cop, you've proven yourself a dickhead and
total fucking hypocrite yet again. Kudos!!

atropos@mac.com wrote:

>Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government will
>"pay the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
>
>Huh? Shouldn't the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the bill?
>It's like he just can't wait for any opportunity to fuck the taxpayer.

Senile Resident Joke Bidden thinks he can buy votes, but yeah, it's not a fed
thing.

>And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott Key
>Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what will its
>new name be?
>
>I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".

They already are talking about chnaging the name.

--
Let's go Brandon!

On 3/27/24 10:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government will "pay
> the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
>
> Huh? Shouldn’t the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the bill?
> It’s like he just can’t wait for any opportunity to fuck the taxpayer.
>
> And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott Key
> Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what will its new
> name be?
>
> I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".
>
>

Yes, stupid. Did you think they'd wait 8-10, or 20 years until the case
is brought, decided, appealed, re-appealed and finally settled in a
couple of decades?

Jesus Fucking Christ, but you are a shortsighted limp dick moron.
Nobody said they wouldn't sue to recover the money.

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Bible 25B.G.
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Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>>Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government will
>>>"pay the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.

>>>Huh? Shouldn't the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the bill?
>>>It's like he just can't wait for any opportunity to fuck the taxpayer.

>>>And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott
>>>Key Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what
>>>will its new name be?

>>>I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".

>>The federal government can act to get repairs started today while the
>>lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.

>The bridge won't be repaired. It'll be 5 to 7 years at least.

Here's an article from the Baltimore Sun. Turn off javascript to read.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/03/27/how-long-to-rebuild-key-bridge/

Ignore "rebuild" in the headline. No one is saying it can be rebuilt.
It's going to be replaced with something brand new. I'm sure the
piers will both be relocated closer to shore. Nothing will be saved from
the debris.

The replacement will have to take into account larger vessels and sea
level rise, so it's entire cost won't be charged to the collision.
They'll have to calculate the cost to replace it with like kind and the
difference between that and the new structure will be borne by
taxpayers. I don't they'll have to pay for years of reduced commerce.

>Don't you remember St. Petersburg?

In article <uu4adb$3mth9$2@dont-email.me>,
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> >shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> >>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >>>Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government will
> >>>"pay the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
>
> >>>Huh? Shouldn't the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the bill?
> >>>It's like he just can't wait for any opportunity to fuck the taxpayer.
>
> >>>And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott
> >>>Key Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what
> >>>will its new name be?
>
> >>>I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".
>
> >>The federal government can act to get repairs started today while the
> >>lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.
>
> >The bridge won't be repaired. It'll be 5 to 7 years at least.
>
> Here's an article from the Baltimore Sun. Turn off javascript to read.
>
> https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/03/27/how-long-to-rebuild-key-bridge/
>
> Ignore "rebuild" in the headline. No one is saying it can be rebuilt.
> It's going to be replaced with something brand new. I'm sure the
> piers will both be relocated closer to shore.

And higher, too. I drove across the Key Bridge regularly when I was a DC
denizen and it was kinda scary how high up you got with seemingly very
little to stop you from going over the side if you lost control.

> The replacement will have to take into account larger vessels and sea
> level rise

Which is non-existent pretty much everywhere. There's been no sea level
rise over the last 12 years at the beach down the street from me; when I
visited Miami's South Beach two years ago, the ocean was in the same
place it was in the pictures of my visit 20 years earlier (despite
AlGore's insistence that Miami would be underwater by 2011); Plymouth
Rock isn't underwater; the water level around the base of the Statue of
Liberty hasn't changed since it was erected, etc., etc.

> so it's entire cost won't be charged to the collision.
> They'll have to calculate the cost to replace it with like kind and the
> difference between that and the new structure will be borne by
> taxpayers. I don't they'll have to pay for years of reduced commerce.
>
> >Don't you remember St. Petersburg?

On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 03:15:12 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> >On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >
>
> >>Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government
> >>will "pay the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
>
> >>Huh? Shouldn’t the shipping company and its insurance agency foot
> >>the bill? It’s like he just can’t wait for any opportunity to
> >>fuck the taxpayer.
>
> >>And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis
> >>Scott Key Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite?
> >>So what will its new name be?
>
> >>I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".
>
> >The federal government can act to get repairs started today while the
> >lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.
>
> The bridge won't be repaired. It'll be 5 to 7 years at least.
>
They had the owner of an engineering firm on CTV to comment on the
bridge collapse and he said it could be rebuilt in 1 to 2 years. I was
shocked at that estimate, assuming that it would take several years
just to do all the environmental impact studies and then the design.
Maybe he just meant the construction portion but you'd think an
experienced engineer would know perfectly well all the stuff that has
to happen before they start construction and factor that into a time
estimate.

> Don't you remember St. Petersburg?

St. Petersburg, Russia? Or Florida? In either case, I don't recall any
bridge collapses in either place. Can you refresh my memory?

--
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Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 03:15:12 -0000 (UTC)
> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government
>>>> will "pay the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
>>
>>>> Huh? Shouldn’t the shipping company and its insurance agency foot
>>>> the bill? It’s like he just can’t wait for any opportunity to
>>>> fuck the taxpayer.
>>
>>>> And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis
>>>> Scott Key Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite?
>>>> So what will its new name be?
>>
>>>> I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".
>>
>>> The federal government can act to get repairs started today while the
>>> lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.
>>
>> The bridge won't be repaired. It'll be 5 to 7 years at least.
>>
> They had the owner of an engineering firm on CTV to comment on the
> bridge collapse and he said it could be rebuilt in 1 to 2 years. I was
> shocked at that estimate, assuming that it would take several years
> just to do all the environmental impact studies and then the design.

Those environmental laws usually have an escape clause that exempts them
from the process in case of a declared emergency.

> Maybe he just meant the construction portion but you'd think an
> experienced engineer would know perfectly well all the stuff that has
> to happen before they start construction and factor that into a time
> estimate.
>
>> Don't you remember St. Petersburg?
>
> St. Petersburg, Russia? Or Florida? In either case, I don't recall any
> bridge collapses in either place. Can you refresh my memory?

In <N4mcnaFh6rVOdJj7nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> writes:

[snip]

>>> Don't you remember St. Petersburg?
>>
>> St. Petersburg, Russia? Or Florida? In either case, I don't recall any
>> bridge collapses in either place. Can you refresh my memory?

I suspect the earlier poster is referring to this little
even in Florida, but it was Sweetwater:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_International_University_pedestrian_bridge_collapse

{:wq

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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>In article <uu4adb$3mth9$2@dont-email.me>,
> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>> >shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> >>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>>Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government will
>> >>>"pay the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
>>
>> >>>Huh? Shouldn't the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the bill?
>> >>>It's like he just can't wait for any opportunity to fuck the taxpayer.
>>
>> >>>And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott
>> >>>Key Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what
>> >>>will its new name be?
>>
>> >>>I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".
>>
>> >>The federal government can act to get repairs started today while the
>> >>lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.
>>
>> >The bridge won't be repaired. It'll be 5 to 7 years at least.
>>
>> Here's an article from the Baltimore Sun. Turn off javascript to read.
>>
>> https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/03/27/how-long-to-rebuild-key-bridge/
>>
>> Ignore "rebuild" in the headline. No one is saying it can be rebuilt.
>> It's going to be replaced with something brand new. I'm sure the
>> piers will both be relocated closer to shore.
>
>And higher, too. I drove across the Key Bridge regularly when I was a DC
>denizen and it was kinda scary how high up you got with seemingly very
>little to stop you from going over the side if you lost control.
>
>> The replacement will have to take into account larger vessels and sea
>> level rise
>
>Which is non-existent pretty much everywhere.

Baltimore-specific sea level rise not found elsewhere,

There's been no sea level
>rise over the last 12 years at the beach down the street from me; when I
>visited Miami's South Beach two years ago, the ocean was in the same
>place it was in the pictures of my visit 20 years earlier (despite
>AlGore's insistence that Miami would be underwater by 2011); Plymouth
>Rock isn't underwater; the water level around the base of the Statue of
>Liberty hasn't changed since it was erected, etc., etc.
>
>> so it's entire cost won't be charged to the collision.
>> They'll have to calculate the cost to replace it with like kind and the
>> difference between that and the new structure will be borne by
>> taxpayers. I don't they'll have to pay for years of reduced commerce.
>>
>> >Don't you remember St. Petersburg?

Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 03:15:12 -0000 (UTC)
>"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> >On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> >
>>
>> >>Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government
>> >>will "pay the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
>>
>> >>Huh? Shouldn’t the shipping company and its insurance agency foot
>> >>the bill? It’s like he just can’t wait for any opportunity to
>> >>fuck the taxpayer.
>>
>> >>And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis
>> >>Scott Key Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite?
>> >>So what will its new name be?
>>
>> >>I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".
>>
>> >The federal government can act to get repairs started today while the
>> >lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.
>>
>> The bridge won't be repaired. It'll be 5 to 7 years at least.
>>
>They had the owner of an engineering firm on CTV to comment on the
>bridge collapse and he said it could be rebuilt in 1 to 2 years. I was
>shocked at that estimate, assuming that it would take several years
>just to do all the environmental impact studies and then the design.
>Maybe he just meant the construction portion but you'd think an
>experienced engineer would know perfectly well all the stuff that has
>to happen before they start construction and factor that into a time
>estimate.
>
>> Don't you remember St. Petersburg?
>
>St. Petersburg, Russia? Or Florida? In either case, I don't recall any
>bridge collapses in either place. Can you refresh my memory?

Tampa Bay, crashed into by a massive cargo ship which destroyed the
NEWER of the paired bridges. Took 7 years to build the new one.

danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
>In <N4mcnaFh6rVOdJj7nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> BTR1701
><no_email@invalid.invalid> writes:
>
>[snip]
>
>>>> Don't you remember St. Petersburg?
>>>
>>> St. Petersburg, Russia? Or Florida? In either case, I don't recall any
>>> bridge collapses in either place. Can you refresh my memory?
>
>I suspect the earlier poster is referring to this little
>even in Florida, but it was Sweetwater:
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_International_University_pedestrian_bridge_collapse

I didn't know about that one,

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida/2020/05/08/the-skyway-bridge-collapsed-40-years-ago-heres-how-were-remembering-the-tragedy/

On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 23:52:28 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
>>In <N4mcnaFh6rVOdJj7nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> BTR1701
>><no_email@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>>>> Don't you remember St. Petersburg?
>>>>
>>>> St. Petersburg, Russia? Or Florida? In either case, I don't recall any
>>>> bridge collapses in either place. Can you refresh my memory?
>>
>>I suspect the earlier poster is referring to this little
>>even in Florida, but it was Sweetwater:
>>
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_International_University_pedestrian_bridge_collapse
>
>I didn't know about that one,

That one I did know about

>https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida/2020/05/08/the-skyway-bridge-collapsed-40-years-ago-heres-how-were-remembering-the-tragedy/

This one I did not know about but given it occurred 40 years ago I'm
not surprised.

On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 23:52:28 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
> >In <N4mcnaFh6rVOdJj7nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> BTR1701
> ><no_email@invalid.invalid> writes:
> >
> >[snip]
> >
> >>>> Don't you remember St. Petersburg?
> >>>
> >>> St. Petersburg, Russia? Or Florida? In either case, I don't
> >>> recall any bridge collapses in either place. Can you refresh my
> >>> memory?
> >
> >I suspect the earlier poster is referring to this little
> >even in Florida, but it was Sweetwater:
> >
> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_International_University_pedestrian_bridge_collapse
> >
>
> I didn't know about that one,
>
> https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida/2020/05/08/the-skyway-bridge-collapsed-40-years-ago-heres-how-were-remembering-the-tragedy/

Thank you!

--
Rhino

On 3/28/24 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <uu4adb$3mth9$2@dont-email.me>,
> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government will
>>>>> "pay the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
>>
>>>>> Huh? Shouldn't the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the bill?
>>>>> It's like he just can't wait for any opportunity to fuck the taxpayer.
>>
>>>>> And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott
>>>>> Key Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what
>>>>> will its new name be?
>>
>>>>> I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".
>>
>>>> The federal government can act to get repairs started today while the
>>>> lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.
>>
>>> The bridge won't be repaired. It'll be 5 to 7 years at least.
>>
>> Here's an article from the Baltimore Sun. Turn off javascript to read.
>>
>> https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/03/27/how-long-to-rebuild-key-bridge/
>>
>> Ignore "rebuild" in the headline. No one is saying it can be rebuilt.
>> It's going to be replaced with something brand new. I'm sure the
>> piers will both be relocated closer to shore.
>
> And higher, too. I drove across the Key Bridge regularly when I was a DC
> denizen and it was kinda scary how high up you got with seemingly very
> little to stop you from going over the side if you lost control.
>
>> The replacement will have to take into account larger vessels and sea
>> level rise
>
> Which is non-existent pretty much everywhere. There's been no sea level
> rise over the last 12 years at the beach down the street from me; when I
> visited Miami's South Beach two years ago, the ocean was in the same
> place it was in the pictures of my visit 20 years earlier (despite
> AlGore's insistence that Miami would be underwater by 2011); Plymouth
> Rock isn't underwater; the water level around the base of the Statue of
> Liberty hasn't changed since it was erected, etc., etc.

This has been explained to you for decades. Decades...

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"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
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Gracie, age 6.
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In article <uu6im7$b577$8@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 3/28/24 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <uu4adb$3mth9$2@dont-email.me>,
> > "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government
> >>>>> will "pay the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
> >>
> >>>>> Huh? Shouldn't the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the
> >>>>> bill? It's like he just can't wait for any opportunity to fuck the
> >>>>> taxpayer.
> >>
> >>>>> And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott
> >>>>> Key Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what
> >>>>> will its new name be?
> >>
> >>>>> I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".
> >>
> >>>> The federal government can act to get repairs started today while the
> >>>> lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.
> >>
> >>> The bridge won't be repaired. It'll be 5 to 7 years at least.
> >>
> >> Here's an article from the Baltimore Sun. Turn off javascript to read.
> >>
> >> https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/03/27/how-long-to-rebuild-key-bridge/
> >>
> >> Ignore "rebuild" in the headline. No one is saying it can be rebuilt.
> >> It's going to be replaced with something brand new. I'm sure the
> >> piers will both be relocated closer to shore.
> >
> > And higher, too. I drove across the Key Bridge regularly when I was a DC
> > denizen and it was kinda scary how high up you got with seemingly very
> > little to stop you from going over the side if you lost control.
> >
> >> The replacement will have to take into account larger vessels and sea
> >> level rise
> >
> > Which is non-existent pretty much everywhere. There's been no sea level
> > rise over the last 12 years at the beach down the street from me; when I
> > visited Miami's South Beach two years ago, the ocean was in the same
> > place it was in the pictures of my visit 20 years earlier (despite
> > AlGore's insistence that Miami would be underwater by 2011); Plymouth
> > Rock isn't underwater; the water level around the base of the Statue of
> > Liberty hasn't changed since it was erected, etc., etc.
>
> This has been explained to you for decades. Decades...

Liar.

On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 23:50:26 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>>St. Petersburg, Russia? Or Florida? In either case, I don't recall any
>>bridge collapses in either place. Can you refresh my memory?
>
>Tampa Bay, crashed into by a massive cargo ship which destroyed the
>NEWER of the paired bridges. Took 7 years to build the new one.

We haven't had that problem here - but HAVE had numerous trucks prang
highway overpasses. One trucking company got their licence to operate
lifted after their sixth collision with highway overpasses - which
would typically take $50-75k to repair.

On 3/29/24 1:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <uu6im7$b577$8@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/28/24 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <uu4adb$3mth9$2@dont-email.me>,
>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government
>>>>>>> will "pay the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Huh? Shouldn't the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the
>>>>>>> bill? It's like he just can't wait for any opportunity to fuck the
>>>>>>> taxpayer.
>>>>
>>>>>>> And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott
>>>>>>> Key Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what
>>>>>>> will its new name be?
>>>>
>>>>>>> I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".
>>>>
>>>>>> The federal government can act to get repairs started today while the
>>>>>> lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.
>>>>
>>>>> The bridge won't be repaired. It'll be 5 to 7 years at least.
>>>>
>>>> Here's an article from the Baltimore Sun. Turn off javascript to read.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/03/27/how-long-to-rebuild-key-bridge/
>>>>
>>>> Ignore "rebuild" in the headline. No one is saying it can be rebuilt.
>>>> It's going to be replaced with something brand new. I'm sure the
>>>> piers will both be relocated closer to shore.
>>>
>>> And higher, too. I drove across the Key Bridge regularly when I was a DC
>>> denizen and it was kinda scary how high up you got with seemingly very
>>> little to stop you from going over the side if you lost control.
>>>
>>>> The replacement will have to take into account larger vessels and sea
>>>> level rise
>>>
>>> Which is non-existent pretty much everywhere. There's been no sea level
>>> rise over the last 12 years at the beach down the street from me; when I
>>> visited Miami's South Beach two years ago, the ocean was in the same
>>> place it was in the pictures of my visit 20 years earlier (despite
>>> AlGore's insistence that Miami would be underwater by 2011); Plymouth
>>> Rock isn't underwater; the water level around the base of the Statue of
>>> Liberty hasn't changed since it was erected, etc., etc.
>>
>> This has been explained to you for decades. Decades...
>
> Liar.
>

Over and over and over and you still repeat the same old bullshit as
everything around us goes to shit.

Everything's fine. It's perfectly normal to set new records every week
Natural disasters that used to be unusual are regular occurrences.

And almost every scientist who studies the subject has been telling you
the cause for DECADES. And, yet, you persist.

--
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man’s mind." - OC
Bible 25B.G.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ek8kap93bmk0q5w/D%20U%20N%20E%20Part%20II.jpg?dl=0

Gracie, age 6.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0es3xolxka455iw/BetterThingsToDo.jpg?dl=0

In article <uu9csk$1363u$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 3/29/24 1:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <uu6im7$b577$8@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/28/24 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> In article <uu4adb$3mth9$2@dont-email.me>,
> >>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government
> >>>>>>> will "pay the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> Huh? Shouldn't the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the
> >>>>>>> bill? It's like he just can't wait for any opportunity to fuck the
> >>>>>>> taxpayer.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott
> >>>>>>> Key Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what
> >>>>>>> will its new name be?
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".
> >>>>
> >>>>>> The federal government can act to get repairs started today while the
> >>>>>> lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.
> >>>>
> >>>>> The bridge won't be repaired. It'll be 5 to 7 years at least.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's an article from the Baltimore Sun. Turn off javascript to read.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/03/27/how-long-to-rebuild-key-bridge/
> >>>>
> >>>> Ignore "rebuild" in the headline. No one is saying it can be rebuilt.
> >>>> It's going to be replaced with something brand new. I'm sure the
> >>>> piers will both be relocated closer to shore.
> >>>
> >>> And higher, too. I drove across the Key Bridge regularly when I was a DC
> >>> denizen and it was kinda scary how high up you got with seemingly very
> >>> little to stop you from going over the side if you lost control.
> >>>
> >>>> The replacement will have to take into account larger vessels and sea
> >>>> level rise
> >>>
> >>> Which is non-existent pretty much everywhere. There's been no sea level
> >>> rise over the last 12 years at the beach down the street from me; when I
> >>> visited Miami's South Beach two years ago, the ocean was in the same
> >>> place it was in the pictures of my visit 20 years earlier (despite
> >>> AlGore's insistence that Miami would be underwater by 2011); Plymouth
> >>> Rock isn't underwater; the water level around the base of the Statue of
> >>> Liberty hasn't changed since it was erected, etc., etc.
> >>
> >> This has been explained to you for decades. Decades...
> >
> > Liar.

> Over and over and over and you still repeat the same old bullshit as
> everything around us goes to shit.

Given that the enviro-kooks have been predicting sea level rise since
the late 90s, even famously direly warning that Miami would be
underwater by 2011, one would think that there would be *some* evidence
of a, ya know, sea level rise.

On 3/30/24 2:58 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <uu9csk$1363u$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/29/24 1:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <uu6im7$b577$8@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/28/24 2:42 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <uu4adb$3mth9$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:55:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just saw on the news that Joe Biden has pledged that the government
>>>>>>>>> will "pay the entire cost" of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Huh? Shouldn't the shipping company and its insurance agency foot the
>>>>>>>>> bill? It's like he just can't wait for any opportunity to fuck the
>>>>>>>>> taxpayer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And when it's rebuilt, obviously it can't be renamed the Francis Scott
>>>>>>>>> Key Bridge. I mean, "old straight racist white guy", amirite? So what
>>>>>>>>> will its new name be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I submit the "Saint George Floyd of Fentanyl Memorial Bridge".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The federal government can act to get repairs started today while the
>>>>>>>> lawyers act to collect any money due from the company/insurance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The bridge won't be repaired. It'll be 5 to 7 years at least.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's an article from the Baltimore Sun. Turn off javascript to read.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/03/27/how-long-to-rebuild-key-bridge/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ignore "rebuild" in the headline. No one is saying it can be rebuilt.
>>>>>> It's going to be replaced with something brand new. I'm sure the
>>>>>> piers will both be relocated closer to shore.
>>>>>
>>>>> And higher, too. I drove across the Key Bridge regularly when I was a DC
>>>>> denizen and it was kinda scary how high up you got with seemingly very
>>>>> little to stop you from going over the side if you lost control.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The replacement will have to take into account larger vessels and sea
>>>>>> level rise
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is non-existent pretty much everywhere. There's been no sea level
>>>>> rise over the last 12 years at the beach down the street from me; when I
>>>>> visited Miami's South Beach two years ago, the ocean was in the same
>>>>> place it was in the pictures of my visit 20 years earlier (despite
>>>>> AlGore's insistence that Miami would be underwater by 2011); Plymouth
>>>>> Rock isn't underwater; the water level around the base of the Statue of
>>>>> Liberty hasn't changed since it was erected, etc., etc.
>>>>
>>>> This has been explained to you for decades. Decades...
>>>
>>> Liar.
>
>> Over and over and over and you still repeat the same old bullshit as
>> everything around us goes to shit.
>
> Given that the enviro-kooks have been predicting sea level rise since
> the late 90s, even famously direly warning that Miami would be
> underwater by 2011,

Shockingly I googled this and it returned zero hits. Methinks you're
lying per usual.

one would think that there would be *some* evidence
> of a, ya know, sea level rise.