"Doctors can refuse to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs??? Never heard of that! That is ridiculous and crazy! Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!

Dr. Josef Mengele - Wikipedia

On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> "Doctors can refuse to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs??? Never heard of that! That is ridiculous and crazy! Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!
>
>
> Dr. Josef Mengele - Wikipedia

Mengele was military, soldier boy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:04:19 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > "Doctors can refuse to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs??? Never heard of that! That is ridiculous and crazy! Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!
> >
> >
> > Dr. Josef Mengele - Wikipedia
> Mengele was military, soldier boy.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

What is your point, Dunce?

Are you equating American soldiers with Nazis?

On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:46:10 PM UTC, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:04:19 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > > "Doctors can refuse to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs??? Never heard of that! That is ridiculous and crazy! Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!
> > >
> > >
> > > Dr. Josef Mengele - Wikipedia
> > Mengele was military, soldier boy.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
> What is your point, Dunce?
>
> Are you equating American soldiers with Nazis?
Mengele was a medical doctor and anthropologist before he was military.

On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:04:19 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > > "Doctors can refuse to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs??? Never heard of that! That is ridiculous and crazy! Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!
> > >
> > > Dr. Josef Mengele - Wikipedia
> > Mengele was military, soldier boy.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
> What is your point, Dunce?
>
> Are you equating American soldiers with Nazis?

I don't remember you making a distinction between them, Michael.

Do I hear the sound of goalposts being moved again?

On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:03:17 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:04:19 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > > > "Doctors can refuse to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs??? Never heard of that! That is ridiculous and crazy! Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!
> > > >
> > > > Dr. Josef Mengele - Wikipedia
> > > Mengele was military, soldier boy.
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
> > What is your point, Dunce?
> >
> > Are you equating American soldiers with Nazis?
> I don't remember you making a distinction between them, Michael.

I don't remember my having mentioned Mengele at all, Dunce.
> Do I hear the sound of goalposts being moved again?

Only if you're moving them.

Why don't you explain what your posting a link to Mengele's Wikipedia page was supposed to mean?

On Wednesday, 23 August 2023 at 23:16:26 UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:03:17 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:04:19 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > > > > "Doctors can refuse to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs??? Never heard of that! That is ridiculous and crazy! Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!
> > > > >
> > > > > Dr. Josef Mengele - Wikipedia
> > > > Mengele was military, soldier boy.
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
> > > What is your point, Dunce?
> > >
> > > Are you equating American soldiers with Nazis?
> > I don't remember you making a distinction between them, Michael.
> I don't remember my having mentioned Mengele at all, Dunce.
> > Do I hear the sound of goalposts being moved again?
> Only if you're moving them.
>
> Why don't you explain what you’re

Michael, that was an awesome fucking burn!!!posting a link to Mengele's Wikipedia page was supposed to mean?

On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 11:16:26 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:03:17 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:04:19 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > > > > "Doctors can refuse to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs??? Never heard of that! That is ridiculous and crazy! Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!
> > > > >
> > > > > Dr. Josef Mengele - Wikipedia
> > > > Mengele was military, soldier boy.
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
> > > What is your point, Dunce?
> > >
> > > Are you equating American soldiers with Nazis?
> > I don't remember you making a distinction between them, Michael.
> I don't remember my having mentioned Mengele at all, Dunce.
> > Do I hear the sound of goalposts being moved again?
> Only if you're moving them.
>
> Why don't you explain what your posting a link to Mengele's Wikipedia page was supposed to mean?

Same thing with posting the Nashville shooter article in a thread about ending transphobia-- a dirty trick to slur and shame the only way he knows-- dishonestly. He's trying to slur soldiers by comparing them to a Nazi war criminal. Typical Dunce, he doesn't want to be lumped in with bad politicians but he all too gladly do what he says is so wrong.
Perhaps we should bring up-- what was it, that one certain British politician that admired Hitler?
But Georgie screwed up again, trying to prove he knows something about World history, he ended up showing his ignorant ass again.
From Wikipedia:
Josef Rudolf Mengele was a German Schutzstaffel (SS) officer and physician during World War II."
"In 1931 he joined Der Stahlhelm, a paramilitary organization that was absorbed into the Nazi Sturmabteilung ('Storm Detachment'; SA) in 1934."

Military service
"Mengele joined the Nazi Party in 1937 and the Schutzstaffel (SS; 'Protection Squadron') in 1938."

CONCERNING ACTUAL MILITARY SERVICE (which only lasted a FEW MONTHS apparently, and it had nothing to do with what he later did in the concentration camps and which he's infamous for)
"... and was called up for service in the Wehrmacht (Nazi armed forces) in June 1940, some months after the outbreak of World War II."
"He soon volunteered for medical service in the Waffen-SS, the combat arm of the SS, where he served with the rank of SS-Untersturmführer ('second lieutenant') in a medical reserve battalion until November 1940. He was next assigned to the SS-Rasse- und Siedlungshauptamt ('SS Race and Settlement Main Office') in Poznań, evaluating candidates for Germanization.
"In June 1941, Mengele was posted to Ukraine, where he was awarded the Iron Cross 2nd Class. In January 1942, he joined the 5th SS Panzer Division Wiking as a battalion medical officer. ... He was declared unfit for further active service in mid-1942, when he was seriously wounded in action near Rostov-on-Don. Following his recovery, he was transferred to the headquarters of the SS Race and Settlement Main Office in Berlin..."
"In early 1943, Von Verschuer encouraged Mengele to apply for a transfer to the concentration camp service. Mengele's application was accepted and he was posted to Auschwitz, where he was appointed by SS-Standortarzt Eduard Wirths..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
- - - - -
HE LEFT REGULAR MILITARY SERVICE TO JOIN THE SS (which WAS NOT part of the German military)
TO REPEAT: Mengele was with the SS before he was called into regular military and quickly left it to go back to the SS which is not the German military. The SS was the Nazi national police/security force, like the KGB and the Stasi.

THE SS (from Britannica)
"SS, abbreviation of Schutzstaffel (German: “Protective Echelon”), the black-uniformed elite corps and self-described “political soldiers” of the Nazi Party."
"When Hitler, with SS help, purged the SA in 1934 and reduced it to political impotence, the SS became an independent group responsible, via Himmler, to Hitler alone. Between 1934 and 1936 Himmler and his chief adjutant, Reinhard Heydrich, consolidated SS strength by gaining control of all of Germany’s police forces and expanding their organization’s responsibilities and activities. At the same time, special military SS units were trained and equipped along the lines of the regular army."

(SA was what Mengele first joined (from Wikipedia article: "In 1931 he joined Der Stahlhelm, a paramilitary organization that was absorbed into the Nazi Sturmabteilung ('Storm Detachment'; SA) in 1934.")

"The Allgemeine-SS dealt mainly with police and “racial” matters."
"The Waffen-SS was made up of three subgroups: the Leibstandarte, Hitler’s personal bodyguard; the Totenkopfverbände (Death’s-Head Battalions), which administered the concentration camps and a vast empire of slave labour drawn from the Jews and the populations of the occupied territories; and the Verfügungstruppen (Disposition Troops), which swelled to 39 divisions in World War II and which, serving as elite combat troops alongside the regular army, gained a reputation as fanatical fighters."
"Following the defeat of Nazi Germany by the Allies, the SS was declared a criminal organization by the Allied Tribunal in Nürnberg in 1946."
https://www.britannica.com/topic/SS

On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 11:16:26 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:03:17 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:04:19 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > > > > "Doctors can refuse to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs??? Never heard of that! That is ridiculous and crazy! Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!
> > > > >
> > > > > Dr. Josef Mengele - Wikipedia
> > > > Mengele was military, soldier boy.
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
> > > What is your point, Dunce?
> > >
> > > Are you equating American soldiers with Nazis?
> > I don't remember you making a distinction between them, Michael.
> I don't remember my having mentioned Mengele at all, Dunce.

Who said you did, Strawman Michael? Your chimp colleague was the one who mentioned him.

> > Do I hear the sound of goalposts being moved again?
> Only if you're moving them.
Not I. So far we've been talking about "soldiers" (=anyone who's served in a military). I'm quite willing to continue with that, if you will.

> Why don't you explain what your posting a link to Mengele's Wikipedia page was supposed to mean?

Your chimp colleague cited the article but forgot to post the link, the way you four tend to.

On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 8:12:46 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 11:16:26 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:03:17 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:04:19 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > > > > > "Doctors can refuse to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs??? Never heard of that! That is ridiculous and crazy! Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dr. Josef Mengele - Wikipedia
> > > > > Mengele was military, soldier boy.
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
> > > > What is your point, Dunce?
> > > >
> > > > Are you equating American soldiers with Nazis?
> > > I don't remember you making a distinction between them, Michael.
> > I don't remember my having mentioned Mengele at all, Dunce.
> Who said you did, Strawman Michael? Your chimp colleague was the one who mentioned him.
> > > Do I hear the sound of goalposts being moved again?
> > Only if you're moving them.
> Not I. So far we've been talking about "soldiers" (=anyone who's served in a military). I'm quite willing to continue with that, if you will.
> > Why don't you explain what your posting a link to Mengele's Wikipedia page was supposed to mean?
> Your chimp colleague cited the article but forgot to post the link, the way you four tend to.

This thread was *not* about soldiers, George. It was about Pervy Uncle Isaac's quote regarding doctors.

You are the one who pointed out that Mengele had been a (Nazi) soldier.

You have said that you are "quite willing to continue" with our discussion on soldiers. Fine (although "continue" doesn't really apply to this thread).

If so, please explain what you meant to convey by mentioning Mengele's military career.

On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 8:47:04 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 8:12:46 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 11:16:26 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:03:17 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:04:19 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > > > > > > "Doctors can refuse to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs??? Never heard of that! That is ridiculous and crazy! Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dr. Josef Mengele - Wikipedia
> > > > > > Mengele was military, soldier boy.
> > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
> > > > > What is your point, Dunce?
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you equating American soldiers with Nazis?
> > > > I don't remember you making a distinction between them, Michael.
> > > I don't remember my having mentioned Mengele at all, Dunce.
> > Who said you did, Strawman Michael? Your chimp colleague was the one who mentioned him.
> > > > Do I hear the sound of goalposts being moved again?
> > > Only if you're moving them.
> > Not I. So far we've been talking about "soldiers" (=anyone who's served in a military). I'm quite willing to continue with that, if you will.
> > > Why don't you explain what your posting a link to Mengele's Wikipedia page was supposed to mean?
> > Your chimp colleague cited the article but forgot to post the link, the way you four tend to.

> This thread was *not* about soldiers, George. It was about Pervy Uncle Isaac's quote regarding doctors.
I'm glad you're here to speak for your chimp. Would you mind explaining what he thinks Mengele has to do with

> You are the one who pointed out that Mengele had been a (Nazi) soldier.
I said he was military. You were the one who began babbling about "soldiers" and "Nazis" and how I was "equating" them.

> You have said that you are "quite willing to continue" with our discussion on soldiers. Fine (although "continue" doesn't really apply to this thread).

It sounded like that's what you wanted to talk about; but you really don't have to, since I doubt you have anything new to add. Alternatively, you could explain what your chimp thinks Mengele had to do with what Jordy said.
> If so, please explain what you meant to convey by mentioning Mengele's military career.

No need, as I said. I'll let you try to explain what your chimp meant instead.

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:38:08 PM UTC, George Dance wrote:

> I'm glad you're here to speak for your chimp. Would you mind explaining what he thinks Mengele has to do with

George Dance, please (don't) consult Mitch McConnell's doctor for your freezing/seizure episodes. Since we have seen you do this several times now, we will want to operate as soon as possible. --Dr. NancyGene, Chief of Neurosurgery, AAPC

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:38:08 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 8:47:04 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 8:12:46 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 11:16:26 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:03:17 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:04:19 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > > > > > > > "Doctors can refuse to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs??? Never heard of that! That is ridiculous and crazy! Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dr. Josef Mengele - Wikipedia
> > > > > > > Mengele was military, soldier boy.
> > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
> > > > > > What is your point, Dunce?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you equating American soldiers with Nazis?
> > > > > I don't remember you making a distinction between them, Michael.
> > > > I don't remember my having mentioned Mengele at all, Dunce.
> > > Who said you did, Strawman Michael? Your chimp colleague was the one who mentioned him.
> > > > > Do I hear the sound of goalposts being moved again?
> > > > Only if you're moving them.
> > > Not I. So far we've been talking about "soldiers" (=anyone who's served in a military). I'm quite willing to continue with that, if you will.
> > > > Why don't you explain what your posting a link to Mengele's Wikipedia page was supposed to mean?
> > > Your chimp colleague cited the article but forgot to post the link, the way you four tend to.
>
> > This thread was *not* about soldiers, George. It was about Pervy Uncle Isaac's quote regarding doctors.
> I'm glad you're here to speak for your chimp. Would you mind explaining what he thinks Mengele has to do with

Your brain seems to have shut down mid-sentence, again. You really should get that checked.

I don't know why Jim mentioned Mengele, as I haven't discussed it with him. I can, however, make an educated guess: Jordy said that he'd "never heard of" a doctor refusing "to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs." Mengele would be an example of a doctor who probably did.

Your turn: Why did you point out that Mengele "was military"?

> > You are the one who pointed out that Mengele had been a (Nazi) soldier.
> I said he was military. You were the one who began babbling about "soldiers" and "Nazis" and how I was "equating" them.

If he "was military," that would make him a soldier. Or does "military" have a different meaning in Canuckland?

> > You have said that you are "quite willing to continue" with our discussion on soldiers. Fine (although "continue" doesn't really apply to this thread).
> It sounded like that's what you wanted to talk about; but you really don't have to, since I doubt you have anything new to add. Alternatively, you could explain what your chimp thinks Mengele had to do with what Jordy said.
>

See above for a probably (and obvious) explanation.

> > If so, please explain what you meant to convey by mentioning Mengele's military career.
> No need, as I said. I'll let you try to explain what your chimp meant instead.

Again, see above.

Now stop dancing around the issue and explain why you pointed out that Mengele "was military."

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 1:54:54 PM UTC-7, NancyGene wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:38:08 PM UTC, George Dance wrote:
>
> > I'm glad you're here to speak for your chimp. Would you mind explaining what he thinks Mengele has to do with
> George Dance, please (don't) consult Mitch McConnell's doctor for your freezing/seizure episodes. Since we have seen you do this several times now, we will want to operate as soon as possible. --Dr. NancyGene, Chief of Neurosurgery, AAPC

what kind of surgery do you do for neuropathy?

On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 16:54:54 UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:38:08 PM UTC, George Dance wrote:
>
> > I'm glad you're here to speak for your chimp. Would you mind explaining what he thinks Mengele has to do with
> George Dance, please (don't) consult Mitch McConnell's doctor for your freezing/seizure episodes. Since we have seen you do this several times now, we will want to operate as soon as possible. --Dr. NancyGene, Chief of Neurosurgery, AAPC
🤣🤣🤣🤣

Did the Dunce answer? Probably now since, like with the Nahsville shooter article, he only meant to slur by innuendo...
I call him a Dunce because only a dunce would set himself up on a slippery slope for a fail:

It appears that Jim posted Mengele's name (not citing was done as the Dunce ignorantly claims) as an example of a doctor doing what Jordy cannot believe (Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!).

"n early 1943, Von Verschuer encouraged Mengele to apply for a transfer to the concentration camp service.[23][33] Mengele's application was accepted and he was posted to Auschwitz, where he was appointed by SS-Standortarzt Eduard Wirths, chief medical officer at Auschwitz, to the position of chief physician of the Zigeunerfamilienlager (Romani family camp) at Birkenau,[23][33] a subcamp located on the main Auschwitz complex. The SS doctors did not administer treatment to the Auschwitz inmates but supervised the activities of inmate doctors who had been forced to work in the camp medical service.[34] As part of his duties, Mengele made weekly visits to the hospital barracks and ordered any prisoners who had not recovered after two weeks in bed to be sent to the gas chambers.[35]"
"When a typhus epidemic began in the women's camp, Mengele cleared one block of six hundred Jewish women and sent them to be murdered in the gas chambers."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

The slippery slope I shall demonstrate with examples that the whippin' fools can understand
Dance says he was a politician, so was Trump -- Dance - Trump
Zod was a sailor *(soldier), so was Mengele* -- Zod - Mengele

*for a couple months and left military service for service with the SS, Nazi Germany's state security/"secret" police force. Mengele actually committed his atrocities as a civilian doctor with the SS.

On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 6:14:57 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> Did the Dunce answer? Probably now since, like with the Nahsville shooter article, he only meant to slur by innuendo...
> I call him a Dunce because only a dunce would set himself up on a slippery slope for a fail:
>
> It appears that Jim posted Mengele's name (not citing was done as the Dunce ignorantly claims) as an example of a doctor doing what Jordy cannot believe (Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!).
>
> "n early 1943, Von Verschuer encouraged Mengele to apply for a transfer to the concentration camp service.[23][33] Mengele's application was accepted and he was posted to Auschwitz, where he was appointed by SS-Standortarzt Eduard Wirths, chief medical officer at Auschwitz, to the position of chief physician of the Zigeunerfamilienlager (Romani family camp) at Birkenau,[23][33] a subcamp located on the main Auschwitz complex. The SS doctors did not administer treatment to the Auschwitz inmates but supervised the activities of inmate doctors who had been forced to work in the camp medical service.[34] As part of his duties, Mengele made weekly visits to the hospital barracks and ordered any prisoners who had not recovered after two weeks in bed to be sent to the gas chambers.[35]"
> "When a typhus epidemic began in the women's camp, Mengele cleared one block of six hundred Jewish women and sent them to be murdered in the gas chambers."
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
>
> The slippery slope I shall demonstrate with examples that the whippin' fools can understand
> Dance says he was a politician, so was Trump -- Dance - Trump
> Zod was a sailor *(soldier), so was Mengele* -- Zod - Mengele
>
> *for a couple months and left military service for service with the SS, Nazi Germany's state security/"secret" police force. Mengele actually committed his atrocities as a civilian doctor with the SS.

George Dance would claim that Mengele was just helping people to die.

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:56:13 PM UTC-4, roach wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 1:54:54 PM UTC-7, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:38:08 PM UTC, George Dance wrote:
> >
> > > I'm glad you're here to speak for your chimp. Would you mind explaining what he thinks Mengele has to do with
> > George Dance, please (don't) consult Mitch McConnell's doctor for your freezing/seizure episodes. Since we have seen you do this several times now, we will want to operate as soon as possible. --Dr. NancyGene, Chief of Neurosurgery, AAPC

> what kind of surgery do you do for neuropathy?

They call it "armchair" surgery. "Armchair" in the Monkey Lexicon, means "fake", "phony," or "bogus".

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 8:20:02 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:56:13 PM UTC-4, roach wrote:
> > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 1:54:54 PM UTC-7, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:38:08 PM UTC, George Dance wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm glad you're here to speak for your chimp. Would you mind explaining what he thinks Mengele has to do with
> > > George Dance, please (don't) consult Mitch McConnell's doctor for your freezing/seizure episodes. Since we have seen you do this several times now, we will want to operate as soon as possible. --Dr. NancyGene, Chief of Neurosurgery, AAPC
>
> > what kind of surgery do you do for neuropathy?
> They call it "armchair" surgery. "Armchair" in the Monkey Lexicon, means "fake", "phony," or "bogus".

Stop lying, George.

"Armchair" means "amateur" or "non-professional."

"Armchair" signifies that the individual works from the comfort of a chair in his living room. An "armchair psychologist" may have a profound understanding of psychology, but has no professional experience in that capacity, and no official credentials.

An armchair psychologist can often provide insightful analyses, but their opinions (even when correct) hold no weight in the professional world, and can be easily dismissed.

My colleague, Dr. NancyGene's and my analyses of someone we'll call "George D," based in part on a poem in which he depicted his abused childhood, are startlingly accurate -- but, as neither of us are licensed psychologists, easily dismissed by Mr. D (who is in a state of denial).

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:33:56 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:38:08 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 8:47:04 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 8:12:46 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 11:16:26 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:03:17 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:04:19 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > > > > > > > > "Doctors can refuse to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs??? Never heard of that! That is ridiculous and crazy! Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Josef Mengele - Wikipedia
> > > > > > > > Mengele was military, soldier boy.
> > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
> > > > > > > What is your point, Dunce?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Are you equating American soldiers with Nazis?
> > > > > > I don't remember you making a distinction between them, Michael..
> > > > > I don't remember my having mentioned Mengele at all, Dunce.
> > > > Who said you did, Strawman Michael? Your chimp colleague was the one who mentioned him.
> > > > > > Do I hear the sound of goalposts being moved again?
> > > > > Only if you're moving them.
> > > > Not I. So far we've been talking about "soldiers" (=anyone who's served in a military). I'm quite willing to continue with that, if you will..
> > > > > Why don't you explain what your posting a link to Mengele's Wikipedia page was supposed to mean?
> > > > Your chimp colleague cited the article but forgot to post the link, the way you four tend to.
> >
> > > This thread was *not* about soldiers, George. It was about Pervy Uncle Isaac's quote regarding doctors.
> > I'm glad you're here to speak for your chimp. Would you mind explaining what he thinks Mengele has to do with
> Your brain seems to have shut down mid-sentence, again. You really should get that checked.
>
> I don't know why Jim mentioned Mengele, as I haven't discussed it with him. I can, however, make an educated guess: Jordy said that he'd "never heard of" a doctor refusing "to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs." Mengele would be an example of a doctor who probably did.

I see; he "probably" did.
> Your turn: Why did you point out that Mengele "was military"?

Some seem to think he was a civilian. I notice that includes your Asstroll, so it probably includes your Chimp as well.

> > > You are the one who pointed out that Mengele had been a (Nazi) soldier.
> > I said he was military. You were the one who began babbling about "soldiers" and "Nazis" and how I was "equating" them.
> If he "was military," that would make him a soldier. Or does "military" have a different meaning in Canuckland?

Indeed it does: "military" refers to the armed forces, while "soldier" means someone in the army, which is just one branch of the military.

> > > You have said that you are "quite willing to continue" with our discussion on soldiers. Fine (although "continue" doesn't really apply to this thread).
> > It sounded like that's what you wanted to talk about; but you really don't have to, since I doubt you have anything new to add. Alternatively, you could explain what your chimp thinks Mengele had to do with what Jordy said.
> >
> See above for a probably (and obvious) explanation.

You guessed that Mengele "probably" refused to treat patients based on his personal beliefs.

> > > If so, please explain what you meant to convey by mentioning Mengele's military career.
> > No need, as I said. I'll let you try to explain what your chimp meant instead.
> Again, see above.
>
> Now stop dancing around the issue and explain why you pointed out that Mengele "was military."

What's the issue? Are you denying that Mengele was military, too? Are do you just not want anyone to talk about it?

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 9:37:22 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 8:20:02 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:56:13 PM UTC-4, roach wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 1:54:54 PM UTC-7, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > George Dance, please (don't) consult Mitch McConnell's doctor for your freezing/seizure episodes. Since we have seen you do this several times now, we will want to operate as soon as possible. --Dr. NancyGene, Chief of Neurosurgery, AAPC
> >
> > > what kind of surgery do you do for neuropathy?
> > They call it "armchair" surgery. "Armchair" in the Monkey Lexicon, means "fake", "phony," or "bogus".
> Stop lying, George.
>
> "Armchair" means "amateur" or "non-professional."

So NastyGoon is an "amateur" surgeon.
> "Armchair" signifies that the individual works from the comfort of a chair in his living room. An "armchair psychologist" may have a profound understanding of psychology, but has no professional experience in that capacity, and no official credentials.

Or, of course, an "armchair psychologist" may have no training, no hands-on experience, and only a layperson's "understanding" of psychology, probably acquired from novels, movies, or TV. 'Armchair psychology is advice on mental health conditions or psychological disorders that typically comes from the logic and introspection of an untrained layperson.'
https://www.betterhelp.com/advice/psychologists/what-is-armchair-psychology-and-why-should-i-avoid-it/
> An armchair psychologist can often provide insightful analyses, but their opinions (even when correct) hold no weight in the professional world, and can be easily dismissed.

I'd agree with your second conjunct. So you'd say the same for "armchair neurology" (not to mention "armchair neurosurgery").

> My colleague, Dr. NancyGene's and my analyses of someone we'll call "George D," based in part on a poem in which he depicted his abused childhood, are startlingly accurate -- but, as neither of us are licensed psychologists, easily dismissed by Mr. D (who is in a state of denial).

I'm glad to see you concurring with your own opinion.

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 9:39:02 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:33:56 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:38:08 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 8:47:04 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 8:12:46 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 11:16:26 PM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 4:03:17 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:04:19 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4, Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > "Doctors can refuse to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs??? Never heard of that! That is ridiculous and crazy! Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Dr. Josef Mengele - Wikipedia
> > > > > > > > > Mengele was military, soldier boy.
> > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
> > > > > > > > What is your point, Dunce?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Are you equating American soldiers with Nazis?
> > > > > > > I don't remember you making a distinction between them, Michael.
> > > > > > I don't remember my having mentioned Mengele at all, Dunce.
> > > > > Who said you did, Strawman Michael? Your chimp colleague was the one who mentioned him.
> > > > > > > Do I hear the sound of goalposts being moved again?
> > > > > > Only if you're moving them.
> > > > > Not I. So far we've been talking about "soldiers" (=anyone who's served in a military). I'm quite willing to continue with that, if you will.
> > > > > > Why don't you explain what your posting a link to Mengele's Wikipedia page was supposed to mean?
> > > > > Your chimp colleague cited the article but forgot to post the link, the way you four tend to.
> > >
> > > > This thread was *not* about soldiers, George. It was about Pervy Uncle Isaac's quote regarding doctors.
> > > I'm glad you're here to speak for your chimp. Would you mind explaining what he thinks Mengele has to do with
> > Your brain seems to have shut down mid-sentence, again. You really should get that checked.
> >
> > I don't know why Jim mentioned Mengele, as I haven't discussed it with him. I can, however, make an educated guess: Jordy said that he'd "never heard of" a doctor refusing "to provide care and assistance to certain people based on their beliefs." Mengele would be an example of a doctor who probably did.
> I see; he "probably" did.

That's right, George. Unlike you, I'm not an expert on Nazism, and don't know much about Mengele (apart from his depiction by Gregory Peck in "The Boys from Brazil").

So, I'm saying "probably." I'll venture to guess that Jim knows that he did, and Ash has since provided evidence that he did as well.

> > Your turn: Why did you point out that Mengele "was military"?
> Some seem to think he was a civilian. I notice that includes your Asstroll, so it probably includes your Chimp as well.

So... you're claiming that your statement had no implications regarding the military, but was offered solely to enlighten Ash, Jim, and others who *may have been* under the mistaken belief that he was a civilian?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

> > > > You are the one who pointed out that Mengele had been a (Nazi) soldier.
> > > I said he was military. You were the one who began babbling about "soldiers" and "Nazis" and how I was "equating" them.
> > If he "was military," that would make him a soldier. Or does "military" have a different meaning in Canuckland?
> Indeed it does: "military" refers to the armed forces, while "soldier" means someone in the army, which is just one branch of the military.
> > > > You have said that you are "quite willing to continue" with our discussion on soldiers. Fine (although "continue" doesn't really apply to this thread).
> > > It sounded like that's what you wanted to talk about; but you really don't have to, since I doubt you have anything new to add. Alternatively, you could explain what your chimp thinks Mengele had to do with what Jordy said.
> > >
> > See above for a probably (and obvious) explanation.
> You guessed that Mengele "probably" refused to treat patients based on his personal beliefs.

No... I guessed that Mengele probably refused to treat patients based on his party's beliefs and/or regulations. Since Nazis were making lampshades out of Jews, and gassing them to death by the millions, one doubts that they were providing them with healthcare.

> > > > If so, please explain what you meant to convey by mentioning Mengele's military career.
> > > No need, as I said. I'll let you try to explain what your chimp meant instead.
> > Again, see above.
> >
> > Now stop dancing around the issue and explain why you pointed out that Mengele "was military."
> What's the issue? Are you denying that Mengele was military, too? Are do you just not want anyone to talk about it?

Mengele was a Nazi war criminal. Apparently he served briefly in the military as well. I have no problem talking about Mengele's military service -- apart from the obvious fact that I know nothing about it and consequently have nothing to say.

I could tell you about how the fictionalized Mengele attempted to clone a bunch of baby Hitlers in Brazil... but that's about it.

Why do you think I wouldn't want anyone to talk about Mengele?

And why do you think that a Nazi war criminal's having served in the Nazi military has anything to do with any veterans in AAPC, or with American soldiers and veterans in general?

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:23:52 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 9:37:22 AM UTC-4, Michael Monkey aka "Michael Pendragon" wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 8:20:02 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:56:13 PM UTC-4, roach wrote:
> > > > On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 1:54:54 PM UTC-7, NancyGene wrote:
> > > > > George Dance, please (don't) consult Mitch McConnell's doctor for your freezing/seizure episodes. Since we have seen you do this several times now, we will want to operate as soon as possible. --Dr. NancyGene, Chief of Neurosurgery, AAPC
> > >
> > > > what kind of surgery do you do for neuropathy?
> > > They call it "armchair" surgery. "Armchair" in the Monkey Lexicon, means "fake", "phony," or "bogus".
> > Stop lying, George.
> >
> > "Armchair" means "amateur" or "non-professional."
> So NastyGoon is an "amateur" surgeon.

1) There is no "NastyGoon" (outside of your childish imagination).
2) If NancyGene were seriously offering to perform a lobotomy on you, she would be considered a criminal. (In spite of the fact that she would be rendering a great, and much needed service to humankind.)

> > "Armchair" signifies that the individual works from the comfort of a chair in his living room. An "armchair psychologist" may have a profound understanding of psychology, but has no professional experience in that capacity, and no official credentials.
> Or, of course, an "armchair psychologist" may have no training, no hands-on experience, and only a layperson's "understanding" of psychology, probably acquired from novels, movies, or TV. 'Armchair psychology is advice on mental health conditions or psychological disorders that typically comes from the logic and introspection of an untrained layperson.'
> https://www.betterhelp.com/advice/psychologists/what-is-armchair-psychology-and-why-should-i-avoid-it/

That's pretty much what I said, George. Your quote is merely presenting it from the other extreme.

> > An armchair psychologist can often provide insightful analyses, but their opinions (even when correct) hold no weight in the professional world, and can be easily dismissed.
> I'd agree with your second conjunct. So you'd say the same for "armchair neurology" (not to mention "armchair neurosurgery").
>

Lighten up, Dunce. NancyGene was not seriously offering to give you lobotomy. Her offer was merely meant to point out the obvious fact that you could use one.

> > My colleague, Dr. NancyGene's and my analyses of someone we'll call "George D," based in part on a poem in which he depicted his abused childhood, are startlingly accurate -- but, as neither of us are licensed psychologists, easily dismissed by Mr. D (who is in a state of denial).
> I'm glad to see you concurring with your own opinion.

That you exhibit textbook signs of paranoia, delusions of grandeur, and suffer from a persecution complex, and constantly project your own failings on others?

Yes, I'm certain that my findings are 100% accurate.

On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 2:14:57 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> Did the Dunce answer? Probably now since, like with the Nahsville shooter article, he only meant to slur by innuendo...
> I call him a Dunce because only a dunce would set himself up on a slippery slope for a fail:

Don't lie, Asstroll. You call me "Dunce" because your Monkey King calls me "Dunce," a term he second-handed from "Piggy John-John Ross". Piggy John-john called me "Dunce" as a pun on my family name, BTW.

> It appears that Jim posted Mengele's name (not citing was done as the Dunce ignorantly claims)

Once again, don't lie, Asstroll. Your Chimp tried to cite an article, and fucked up:
"Dr. Josef Mengele - Wikipedia"

> as an example of a doctor doing what Jordy cannot believe (Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!).

> "In early 1943, Von Verschuer encouraged Mengele to apply for a transfer to the concentration camp service.[23][33] Mengele's application was accepted and he was posted to Auschwitz, where he was appointed by SS-Standortarzt Eduard Wirths, chief medical officer at Auschwitz, to the position of chief physician of the Zigeunerfamilienlager (Romani family camp) at Birkenau,[23][33] a subcamp located on the main Auschwitz complex. The SS doctors did not administer treatment to the Auschwitz inmates but supervised the activities of inmate doctors who had been forced to work in the camp medical service.[34] As part of his duties, Mengele made weekly visits to the hospital barracks and ordered any prisoners who had not recovered after two weeks in bed to be sent to the gas chambers.[35]"
> "When a typhus epidemic began in the women's camp, Mengele cleared one block of six hundred Jewish women and sent them to be murdered in the gas chambers."
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

I've already read the article, Asstroll. I first posted the link, remember? That's what your Monkey King began trolling about.

> The slippery slope I shall demonstrate with examples that the whippin' fools can understand
> Dance says he was a politician, so was Trump -- Dance - Trump
> Zod was a sailor *(soldier), so was Mengele* -- Zod - Mengele

Interesting flame, Asstroll, but you forgot to include Will.

"Will was a civilian, so was Mengele" -- Will = Mengele (by the Asstroll's logic).

> *for a couple months and left military service for service with the SS, Nazi Germany's state security/"secret" police force. Mengele actually committed his atrocities as a civilian doctor with the SS.

civilian noun
1: a specialist in Roman or modern civil law
2:a: one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force
b: OUTSIDER sense 1

What makes you think that Mengele was a "civilian"?

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:43:08 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 2:14:57 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > Did the Dunce answer? Probably now since, like with the Nahsville shooter article, he only meant to slur by innuendo...
>
> > I call him a Dunce because only a dunce would set himself up on a slippery slope for a fail:
> Don't lie, Asstroll. You call me "Dunce" because your Monkey King calls me "Dunce," a term he second-handed from "Piggy John-John Ross". Piggy John-john called me "Dunce" as a pun on my family name, BTW.
>

That's only partially true, Dunce. Both PJR and I call you "Dunce" partly as a pun on your family name, and partly because you claim to have been a member of Mensa in spite of the fact that we both perceive you as being incredibly dense (which is another pun on your family name/commentary on your stupidity).

> > It appears that Jim posted Mengele's name (not citing was done as the Dunce ignorantly claims)
> Once again, don't lie, Asstroll. Your Chimp tried to cite an article, and fucked up:
> "Dr. Josef Mengele - Wikipedia"

He didn't "cite" the article, Dunce. He posted Mengele's name and directed us to an article about him.

> > as an example of a doctor doing what Jordy cannot believe (Doesn’t that contradict the hypocratic oath which doctors are required to follow? Doesn’t make any sense… a doctor MUST treat EVERY patient!).
> > "In early 1943, Von Verschuer encouraged Mengele to apply for a transfer to the concentration camp service.[23][33] Mengele's application was accepted and he was posted to Auschwitz, where he was appointed by SS-Standortarzt Eduard Wirths, chief medical officer at Auschwitz, to the position of chief physician of the Zigeunerfamilienlager (Romani family camp) at Birkenau,[23][33] a subcamp located on the main Auschwitz complex. The SS doctors did not administer treatment to the Auschwitz inmates but supervised the activities of inmate doctors who had been forced to work in the camp medical service.[34] As part of his duties, Mengele made weekly visits to the hospital barracks and ordered any prisoners who had not recovered after two weeks in bed to be sent to the gas chambers.[35]"
> > "When a typhus epidemic began in the women's camp, Mengele cleared one block of six hundred Jewish women and sent them to be murdered in the gas chambers."
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
> I've already read the article, Asstroll. I first posted the link, remember? That's what your Monkey King began trolling about.

I'm not trolling you, Dunce. I'm just trying to get a straight answer from you as to *why* you felt it necessary to tell us that Mengele was in the military.

> > The slippery slope I shall demonstrate with examples that the whippin' fools can understand
> > Dance says he was a politician, so was Trump -- Dance - Trump
> > Zod was a sailor *(soldier), so was Mengele* -- Zod - Mengele
> Interesting flame, Asstroll, but you forgot to include Will.

Ash is pointing out the fallacy of Dunce Logic.

Unfortunately, the analogy doesn't work with Will whose career never went beyond that of a pizza delivery boy.

Will was a pizza boy, so was Rami Malek? -- Will = Rami Malek?

It doesn't work.

Rami Malek became a successful actor, whereas Will is a half-step away from being a pissbum.

> "Will was a civilian, so was Mengele" -- Will = Mengele (by the Asstroll's logic).

Ash is pointing out the fallacy of Dunce Logic, Dunce.

Your post implied that Mengele was a soldier, and therefore all soldiers are like Mengele.

> > *for a couple months and left military service for service with the SS, Nazi Germany's state security/"secret" police force. Mengele actually committed his atrocities as a civilian doctor with the SS.
> civilian noun
> 1: a specialist in Roman or modern civil law
> 2:a: one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force
> b: OUTSIDER sense 1
>
> What makes you think that Mengele was a "civilian"?

IOW: Was the SS considered a branch of the military or an elite secret police force? If the latter, he would not have been a member of the military at the time he committed his atrocities.