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Re: Ncuti Gatwa says he's out of the closet

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From: danie...@nomail.afraid.org (Daniel65)
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Subject: Re: Ncuti Gatwa says he's out of the closet
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2023 20:57:17 +1100
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 by: Daniel65 - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 09:57 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 10/11/23 12:00 pm:

<Snip>

> SaVile.

One track mind, asswipe!!

--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:01 UTC

Blueshirt wrote on 10/11/23 7:08 am:
> The Doctor wrote:
>> In article <xn0o946qx1x5an6000@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>>> I want to hear no more denials from the woketards in this
>>>> group. Gatwa is officially a self confessed homosexual and
>>>> according to RTD he's incapable of playing heterosexual
>>>> characters or roles.
>>>
>>> Ncuti Gatwa is Gay. So what? It's hardly a big surprise.
>>>
>>> He's a male actor playing the Doctor. I thought that was what
>>> you wanted? Make your mind up!
>>
>> You would.
>
> So what, now a male Doctor isn't good enough is it?

Correct! Haven't you seen Aggy typing HE has to be a White, British,
Actor .... so I guess we can add MALE to that criteria as well!

> Ye are a bunch of fussy fuckers. Does anything about "Doctor Who"
> make you happy? Anything at all?
--
Daniel

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 by: The True Doctor - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:40 UTC

On 10/11/2023 09:34, Daniel65 wrote:
> The True Doctor wrote on 9/11/23 1:43 pm:
>> On 09/11/2023 00:33, Blueshirt wrote:
>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>>> I want to hear no more denials from the woketards in this group.
>>>> Gatwa is officially a self confessed homosexual and according to
>>>> RTD he's incapable of playing heterosexual characters or roles.
>>>
>>> Ncuti Gatwa is Gay. So what? It's hardly a big surprise.
>>>
>>> He's a male actor playing the Doctor. I thought that was what you
>>> wanted? Make your mind up!
>>
>> I said I wanted a male Doctor, not a queer Doctor.
>
> Seems to me Rock Hudson portrayed a fairly reasonable 'heterosexual' man
> back in the 50's/60's ... and 'we' all (now) know he was a homosexual
>
> So, it seems, the acting ability of the person might be more important
> than their actual sexuality!
>

According to RTD it isn't. He says only gay actors can play gay roles.

> Is Ncuti a good actor or not??

No. His range is limited to just gay and camp roles. That's all he's
ever played and that's what we're going to get.

--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
stands for." -William Shatner

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 by: solar penguin - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 12:18 UTC

The almost-certainly-not-True Doctor wrote an
almost-certainly-not-truth:

> On 10/11/2023 09:34, Daniel65 wrote:
>>
>> So, it seems, the acting ability of the person might
>> be more important than their actual sexuality!
>>
>
> According to RTD it isn't. He says only gay actors can
> play gay roles.
>

I’d love to know the full context to RTD’s remarks. It’s possible
you’re misinterpreting them. Or, knowing you, totally mis-
remembering them altogether.

--
solar penguin

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 by: The True Doctor - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 12:50 UTC

On 10/11/2023 12:18, solar penguin wrote:
>
> The almost-certainly-not-True Doctor wrote an
> almost-certainly-not-truth:
>
>> On 10/11/2023 09:34, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>
>>> So, it seems, the acting ability of the person might
>>> be more important than their actual sexuality!
>>>
>>
>> According to RTD it isn't. He says only gay actors can
>> play gay roles.
>>
>
> I’d love to know the full context to RTD’s remarks. It’s possible
> you’re misinterpreting them. Or, knowing you, totally mis-
> remembering them altogether.
>

And now we have another Squealer attempting to dissemble the truth and
make people think they're misremembering things or that they never even
happened at all.

Are you sure it wasn't the penguins that took over the farm and turned
into tyrants?

Here it is in black and white. The guy is a racist, an ableist, a
homophobe, and a bigot.

https://news.sky.com/story/russell-t-davies-straight-actors-should-not-play-gay-characters-12185652

<<He said: "I'm not being woke about this... but I feel strongly that if
I cast someone in a story, I am casting them to act as a lover, or an
enemy, or someone on drugs or a criminal or a saint... they are NOT
there to 'act gay' because 'acting gay' is a bunch of codes for a
performance.

"It's about authenticity, the taste of 2020.

"You wouldn't cast someone able-bodied and put them in a wheelchair, you
wouldn't black someone up. Authenticity is leading us to joyous places."

High-profile examples of straight performers playing LGBTQ+ characters
include Rami Malek's Oscar-winning portrayal of Freddie Mercury in
Bohemian Rhapsody, and Taron Egerton's Golden Globe-winning turn as Sir
Elton John in Rocketman.>>

Now this degenerate prejudiced two faced serially lying woke bigot also
wants to cast an actor with no legs and only one arm, to play Davros. Oh
and I suppose that the actor must also have no hands either and also
have a blue electronic eye.

Can Daleks now only be played by mutants? Can Cybermen now only be
played by people who resemble animated corpses augmented with bionics?

Does Ncuti Gatwa also have to have an MD from a genuine real life
medical school in order to play the Doctor? Does he have to also be an
alien from another planet. No wait, not any more; he needs to be an
abused child from another dimension that was repeatedly experimented on
and murdered by its abductor, then brainwashed and turned into a mass
murdering genocidal monster to do her bidding.

--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
stands for." -William Shatner

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 by: The Last Doctor - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 13:36 UTC

solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The almost-certainly-not-True Doctor wrote an
> almost-certainly-not-truth:
>
>> On 10/11/2023 09:34, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>
>>> So, it seems, the acting ability of the person might
>>> be more important than their actual sexuality!
>>>
>>
>> According to RTD it isn't. He says only gay actors can
>> play gay roles.
>>
>
> I’d love to know the full context to RTD’s remarks. It’s possible
> you’re misinterpreting them. Or, knowing you, totally mis-
> remembering them altogether.
>

He is pretty keen on the idea - here he is talking about his casting
choices for “It’s a Sin”:

He said: "I'm not being woke about this... but I feel strongly that if I
cast someone in a story, I am casting them to act as a lover, or an enemy,
or someone on drugs or a criminal or a saint... they are NOT there to 'act
gay' because 'acting gay' is a bunch of codes for a performance.

"It's about authenticity, the taste of 2020.

"You wouldn't cast someone able-bodied and put them in a wheelchair, you
wouldn't black someone up. Authenticity is leading us to joyous places."

More recently he’s doubled down on it, but explaining why he’s such a
strong advocate for it:

/Begin quote:

“I know a straight actor can portray a gay character brilliantly. I know
certainly a gay actor can play a straight character brilliantly.

“The reason why I come out with such a strong unilateral statement is
simply to shift the argument.

“There are 57 dramas out there being cast today without me in that room.
So, one voice just tilts the argument, allows more people to be saying,
‘Shall we cast gay here?'”

Davies said he feels the need to keep advocating for the casting of LGBTQ+
actors is because “no one else is saying it”.

“I am noisy and I do get listened to,” he added.

/End quote

In an ideal world, we’d never notice or care.

Personally I don’t fully support Davies’ position - the best actor for the
role should get the role. Where the colour, sexuality and gender of the
character is irrelevant - such as in the case of the Doctor - then ANYONE
who’s a great actor should be in with a shout.

When authenticity and a real feel for the sexuality of the character is
required and that character is gay, then a gay actor is likely to find it
easier to play the role. So looking for one makes casting choices easier.

Otherwise - no. I don’t see it. But RTD still feels that gay people are a
neglected minority in the entertainment world - so he pushes. Which is his
right as we have free speech.

--
"I'm not going to unwrite my good friend Chris Chibnall's work on 'The
Timeless Children'. I'm not going to deny what he wrote. I'm going with it.
It's absolutely fine." — Russell T. Davies

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 by: The True Doctor - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 13:41 UTC

On 10/11/2023 09:55, Daniel65 wrote:
> The True Doctor wrote on 10/11/23 10:00 am:
>> On 09/11/2023 21:38, Blueshirt wrote:
>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>> On 09/11/2023 21:05, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 7:29:41 PM UTC-8, The True
>>>>>> Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I said I wanted a male Doctor, not a queer Doctor. How is
>>>>>>> a queer Doctor going to command authority in an episode
>>>>>>> set in the 1950s where gays were banned from the military
>>>>>>> and government offices? There's no means for suspending disbelief
>>>>>>> and it's going to be more retarded woke
>>>>>>> lecturing and sexual grooming of children.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, he is black, which will give him problems in the past also!
>>>>>
>>>>> Why just in the past? It seems from some views posted here
>>>>> it's still a problem in 2023!
>>>>
>>>> Let him try going to Eastern Europe and see how people react to him.
>>>> And him being gay compounds the problem even further. In fact he
>>>> wouldn't last long in the Caribbean either, or Africa, where being
>>>> gay is frowned upon by almost everyone.
>>>
>>> Ncuti Gatwa is an actor playing a part... actors who play Dick Turpin
>>> don't have to be highwaymen in real life... what somebody does in
>>> their bedroom is their own business. I couldn't give damn.
>>
>> According to woketards like RTD only actors who are gay can play gay
>> roles.
>
> So does RTD also state the gay actors CANNOT play 'straight' characters??
>

To all intents and purposes he does as the retarded woke bigot also only
thinks that disabled people in wheelchairs should only be played by
disabled people in wheelchairs. I'd like to see this woke arsehole cast
the next Davros.

https://news.sky.com/story/russell-t-davies-straight-actors-should-not-play-gay-characters-12185652

>> So he's implying that he's turned the character of the Doctor> Who.
>> As you said, what somebody does in their bedroom is their own
>> business, so stop fucking making it mine.
>
> How many times have we seen ANY bedroom action on 'Doctor Who'??
>

It doesn't have to be shown in the bedroom. You've got gays kisses butt
bearing inserted all over the place, along with cat cat fuckers, and a
character that did not but tell everyone she was a lesbian in every
single episode. Besides which there was the scene with Martha and
Tennant in bed with each other.

>> I couldn't give damn, so why are you imposing your stupid retarded
>> gay agenda on a majority of heterosexual viewers,
>
> I couldn't give damn, so why are you imposing your heterosexual standards
> om *ALL* of society??

The majority of the population, over 98.5% are heterosexual. Why should
you impose a homosexual agenda on them? Go and make your own programmes
about homosexuality and stop hijacking existing franchises and their
audiences in order sexually groom children who you are holding capture.

No wonder the show has lost 3/4 of its audience.

>
>> unless you are trying to sexually groom children Russell T. Davies,
>> you pervert.
>>
>>> Ncuti Gatwa's sexuality - or skin colour - isn't going to define
>>> whether Doctor Who as a TV show is any good to watch or not. He is
>>> playing the
>>
>> Oh yes it is. The entire premise of Doctor Who is that the Doctor is
>> constantly mistaken for a figure representing the establishment,
>
> Maybe, all alone the Doctor has been mistakenly taken as a Heterosexual
> character.

Stop your woke stupidity. The Doctor is and was first seen as a farther
and the grandfather of Susan Foreman. That makes him heterosexual.

--
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"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
stands for." -William Shatner

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 by: The True Doctor - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 13:45 UTC

On 10/11/2023 03:44, Blueshirt wrote:
> The True Doctor wrote:
>
>> On 10/11/2023 01:17, Blueshirt wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <xn0o9536d352b9f005@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 7:29:41 PM UTC-8, The True
>>>>>> Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>> On 09/11/2023 00:33, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He's a male actor playing the Doctor. I thought that was what
>>>>>>>> you wanted? Make your mind up!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I said I wanted a male Doctor, not a queer Doctor. How is a
>>>>>>> queer Doctor going to command authority in an episode set in
>>>>>>> the 1950s where gays were banned from the military and
>>>>>>> government offices? There's no means for suspending disbelief
>>>>>>> and it's going to be more retarded woke lecturing and sexual
>>>>>>> grooming of children.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have an episode in which he encourages gays to fight for
>>>>>> equality?
>>>>>
>>>>> RTD could well do something like that...
>>>>
>>>> Imagine the rage.
>>>
>>> The rage at a gay person fighting for equality? Equality from
>>> homophobic
>>
>> These people don't want equality. They want nothing less than total
>> supremacy!
>
> They can't have total supremacy... if everyone in the world was Gay then
> the Human race would die out!

Tell that to the Feminazi lesbians that want to use eugenics to weaken
and finally eliminate men and turn then into nothing more than sperm
downers. Read Second Stage Lensmen and Children of the Lens by E E Smith
to see their ultimate goal dipicted.

--
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"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
stands for." -William Shatner

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 by: The True Doctor - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 13:58 UTC

On 10/11/2023 13:36, The Last Doctor wrote:
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The almost-certainly-not-True Doctor wrote an
>> almost-certainly-not-truth:
>>
>>> On 10/11/2023 09:34, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So, it seems, the acting ability of the person might
>>>> be more important than their actual sexuality!
>>>>
>>>
>>> According to RTD it isn't. He says only gay actors can
>>> play gay roles.
>>>
>>
>> I’d love to know the full context to RTD’s remarks. It’s possible
>> you’re misinterpreting them. Or, knowing you, totally mis-
>> remembering them altogether.
>>
>
> He is pretty keen on the idea - here he is talking about his casting
> choices for “It’s a Sin”:
>
> He said: "I'm not being woke about this... but I feel strongly that if I
> cast someone in a story, I am casting them to act as a lover, or an enemy,
> or someone on drugs or a criminal or a saint... they are NOT there to 'act
> gay' because 'acting gay' is a bunch of codes for a performance.
>
> "It's about authenticity, the taste of 2020.
>
> "You wouldn't cast someone able-bodied and put them in a wheelchair, you
> wouldn't black someone up. Authenticity is leading us to joyous places."
>
> More recently he’s doubled down on it, but explaining why he’s such a
> strong advocate for it:
>
> /Begin quote:
>
> “I know a straight actor can portray a gay character brilliantly. I know
> certainly a gay actor can play a straight character brilliantly.
>
> “The reason why I come out with such a strong unilateral statement is
> simply to shift the argument.
>
> “There are 57 dramas out there being cast today without me in that room.
> So, one voice just tilts the argument, allows more people to be saying,
> ‘Shall we cast gay here?'”
>
> Davies said he feels the need to keep advocating for the casting of LGBTQ+
> actors is because “no one else is saying it”.
>

Nobody else? Hollywood is full off homosexuals and they appear in almost
everything. RTD is a lying bigoted far left activist who wants more gays
seen on television in order to sexually groom children when they are
most vulnerable.

> “I am noisy and I do get listened to,” he added.
>
> /End quote
>
> In an ideal world, we’d never notice or care.
>
> Personally I don’t fully support Davies’ position - the best actor for the
> role should get the role. Where the colour, sexuality and gender of the
> character is irrelevant - such as in the case of the Doctor - then ANYONE
> who’s a great actor should be in with a shout.
>
> When authenticity and a real feel for the sexuality of the character is > required and that character is gay, then a gay actor is likely to find it
> easier to play the role. So looking for one makes casting choices easier.
>

That is pure woke bullshit. Rami Malek won an Oscar for playing Freddie
Mercury in Bohemian Rhapsody. Taron Egerton won a Golden Globe playing
Sir Elton John in Rocketman. Tom Hanks won an Oscar for playing the gay
character Andrew Beckett in Philadelphia.

RTD is a bigot plain and simple.

> Otherwise - no. I don’t see it. But RTD still feels that gay people are a
> neglected minority in the entertainment world - so he pushes. Which is his
> right as we have free speech.
>

The overwhelming majority of the population, over 98.5%, are
heterosexual, and yet the entertainment world is filled to the brim with
homosexuals.

RTD isn't doing this for representation since gays have always been over
represented. He's doing it to sexually children. There is no
justification whatsoever for inserting gay characters and gay
relationship in Doctor Who none of which have anything to do with the
plot. Adult viewers can decide for themselves if they think a character
is gay or not. They don't need it spelled out the them. So obvious
target RTD is aiming at is children in order to groom them. He's even
admitted to it himself.

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"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
stands for." -William Shatner

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 by: The Doctor - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 14:31 UTC

In article <nnd$0c6e925f$73f85013@b8f23fa00d85641f>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>The True Doctor wrote:
>
>> On 10/11/2023 01:17, Blueshirt wrote:
>> > The Doctor wrote:
>> >
>> > > In article <xn0o9536d352b9f005@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> >>Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> > > > tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 7:29:41 PM UTC-8, The True
>> > > > > Doctor wrote:
>> > > > > > On 09/11/2023 00:33, Blueshirt wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > He's a male actor playing the Doctor. I thought that was what
>> > > > > > > you wanted? Make your mind up!
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > I said I wanted a male Doctor, not a queer Doctor. How is a
>> > > > > > queer Doctor going to command authority in an episode set in
>> > > > > > the 1950s where gays were banned from the military and
>> > > > > > government offices? There's no means for suspending disbelief
>> > > > > > and it's going to be more retarded woke lecturing and sexual
>> > > > > > grooming of children.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Have an episode in which he encourages gays to fight for
>> > > > > equality?
>> > > >
>> > > > RTD could well do something like that...
>> > >
>> > > Imagine the rage.
>> >
>> > The rage at a gay person fighting for equality? Equality from
>> > homophobic
>>
>> These people don't want equality. They want nothing less than total
>> supremacy!
>
>They can't have total supremacy... if everyone in the world was Gay then
>the Human race would die out!

Exaclty!
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 by: The Doctor - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 14:36 UTC

In article <uikt2k$2on37$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote on 10/11/23 11:59 am:
>> In article <xn0o951ub339xhb003@reader.xsnews.nl>, Blueshirt
>> <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>> In article
>>>> <MPG.3fb678adfbd3e6c98968f@news.eternal-september.org>, Blueshirt
>>>> <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>> In article <uihh1g$20trn$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM says...
>
><Snip>
>
>>>>>> I said I wanted a male Doctor, not a queer Doctor. How is a
>>>>>> queer Doctor going to command authority in an episode set in
>>>>>> the 1950s where gays were banned from the military and
>>>>>> government offices? There's no means for suspending disbelief
>>>>>> and it's going to be more retarded woke lecturing and sexual
>>>>>> grooming of children.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh yes, I forgot about the sexual grooming bit... <rolls eyes>
>>>>
>>>> Savile.
>>>
>>> He wasn't an actor playing the Doctor...
>>
>> WE are talking about the SaVILE syndrome!
>>
>No 'we' weren't, %, ..... whatever the hell 'the SaVILE syndrome'
>is, %.
>--
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 by: The Doctor - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 14:36 UTC

In article <uiktfu$2opgh$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The True Doctor wrote on 9/11/23 1:43 pm:
>> On 09/11/2023 00:33, Blueshirt wrote:
>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>>> I want to hear no more denials from the woketards in this group.
>>>> Gatwa is officially a self confessed homosexual and according to
>>>> RTD he's incapable of playing heterosexual characters or roles.
>>>
>>> Ncuti Gatwa is Gay. So what? It's hardly a big surprise.
>>>
>>> He's a male actor playing the Doctor. I thought that was what you
>>> wanted? Make your mind up!
>>
>> I said I wanted a male Doctor, not a queer Doctor.
>
>Seems to me Rock Hudson portrayed a fairly reasonable 'heterosexual' man
>back in the 50's/60's ... and 'we' all (now) know he was a homosexual
>
>So, it seems, the acting ability of the person might be more important
>than their actual sexuality!
>
>Is Ncuti a good actor or not??
>--
>Daniel

Good argument.
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 by: The Doctor - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 14:37 UTC

In article <uikum3$2p0sj$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The True Doctor wrote on 10/11/23 10:00 am:
>> On 09/11/2023 21:38, Blueshirt wrote:
>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>> On 09/11/2023 21:05, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 7:29:41 PM UTC-8, The True
>>>>>> Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I said I wanted a male Doctor, not a queer Doctor. How is
>>>>>>> a queer Doctor going to command authority in an episode
>>>>>>> set in the 1950s where gays were banned from the military
>>>>>>> and government offices? There's no means for suspending
>>>>>>> disbelief and it's going to be more retarded woke
>>>>>>> lecturing and sexual grooming of children.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, he is black, which will give him problems in the past
>>>>>> also!
>>>>>
>>>>> Why just in the past? It seems from some views posted here
>>>>> it's still a problem in 2023!
>>>>
>>>> Let him try going to Eastern Europe and see how people react to
>>>> him. And him being gay compounds the problem even further. In
>>>> fact he wouldn't last long in the Caribbean either, or Africa,
>>>> where being gay is frowned upon by almost everyone.
>>>
>>> Ncuti Gatwa is an actor playing a part... actors who play Dick
>>> Turpin don't have to be highwaymen in real life... what somebody
>>> does in their bedroom is their own business. I couldn't give damn.
>>
>> According to woketards like RTD only actors who are gay can play gay
>> roles.
>
>So does RTD also state the gay actors CANNOT play 'straight' characters??
>
>> So he's implying that he's turned the character of the Doctor> Who.
>> As you said, what somebody does in their bedroom is their own
>> business, so stop fucking making it mine.
>
>How many times have we seen ANY bedroom action on 'Doctor Who'??
>
>> I couldn't give damn, so why are you imposing your stupid retarded
>> gay agenda on a majority of heterosexual viewers,
>
>I couldn't give damn, so why are you imposing your heterosexual standards
>om *ALL* of society??
>

IYIO

>> unless you are trying to sexually groom children Russell T. Davies,
>> you pervert.
>>
>>> Ncuti Gatwa's sexuality - or skin colour - isn't going to define
>>> whether Doctor Who as a TV show is any good to watch or not. He is
>>> playing the
>>
>> Oh yes it is. The entire premise of Doctor Who is that the Doctor is
>> constantly mistaken for a figure representing the establishment,
>
>Maybe, all alone the Doctor has been mistakenly taken as a Heterosexual
>character.
>--
>Daniel

Doubtful!

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In article <uikups$2p0sj$2@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote on 10/11/23 12:00 pm:
>
><Snip>
>
>> SaVile.
>
>One track mind, %!!
>
>--
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 by: The Doctor - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 14:38 UTC

In article <uikv1p$2p40i$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Blueshirt wrote on 10/11/23 7:08 am:
>> The Doctor wrote:
>>> In article <xn0o946qx1x5an6000@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I want to hear no more denials from the woketards in this
>>>>> group. Gatwa is officially a self confessed homosexual and
>>>>> according to RTD he's incapable of playing heterosexual
>>>>> characters or roles.
>>>>
>>>> Ncuti Gatwa is Gay. So what? It's hardly a big surprise.
>>>>
>>>> He's a male actor playing the Doctor. I thought that was what
>>>> you wanted? Make your mind up!
>>>
>>> You would.
>>
>> So what, now a male Doctor isn't good enough is it?
>
>Correct! Haven't you seen Aggy typing HE has to be a White, British,
>Actor .... so I guess we can add MALE to that criteria as well!
>

IYIO.

>> Ye are a bunch of fussy f*kers. Does anything about "Doctor Who"
>> make you happy? Anything at all?
>--
>Daniel

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In article <uil1b7$2peuh$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>On 10/11/2023 09:34, Daniel65 wrote:
>> The True Doctor wrote on 9/11/23 1:43 pm:
>>> On 09/11/2023 00:33, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I want to hear no more denials from the woketards in this group.
>>>>> Gatwa is officially a self confessed homosexual and according to
>>>>> RTD he's incapable of playing heterosexual characters or roles.
>>>>
>>>> Ncuti Gatwa is Gay. So what? It's hardly a big surprise.
>>>>
>>>> He's a male actor playing the Doctor. I thought that was what you
>>>> wanted? Make your mind up!
>>>
>>> I said I wanted a male Doctor, not a queer Doctor.
>>
>> Seems to me Rock Hudson portrayed a fairly reasonable 'heterosexual' man
>> back in the 50's/60's ... and 'we' all (now) know he was a homosexual
>>
>> So, it seems, the acting ability of the person might be more important
>> than their actual sexuality!
>>
>
>According to RTD it isn't. He says only gay actors can play gay roles.
>
>> Is Ncuti a good actor or not??
>
>No. His range is limited to just gay and camp roles. That's all he's
>ever played and that's what we're going to get.
>

Ever saw Ncuti previously in any role?

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>The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
>
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>stands for." -William Shatner
>

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 by: The Doctor - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 14:39 UTC

In article <uil72q$2qn0b$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>The almost-certainly-not-True Doctor wrote an
>almost-certainly-not-truth:
>
>> On 10/11/2023 09:34, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>
>>> So, it seems, the acting ability of the person might
>>> be more important than their actual sexuality!
>>>
>>
>> According to RTD it isn't. He says only gay actors can
>> play gay roles.
>>
>
>I’d love to know the full context to RTD’s remarks. It’s possible
>you’re misinterpreting them. Or, knowing you, totally mis-
>remembering them altogether.
>

Welcome to Planet Earth!

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 by: The Doctor - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 14:40 UTC

In article <uil8u2$2r2vm$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>On 10/11/2023 12:18, solar penguin wrote:
>>
>> The almost-certainly-not-True Doctor wrote an
>> almost-certainly-not-truth:
>>
>>> On 10/11/2023 09:34, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So, it seems, the acting ability of the person might
>>>> be more important than their actual sexuality!
>>>>
>>>
>>> According to RTD it isn't. He says only gay actors can
>>> play gay roles.
>>>
>>
>> I’d love to know the full context to RTD’s remarks. It’s possible
>> you’re misinterpreting them. Or, knowing you, totally mis-
>> remembering them altogether.
>>
>
>And now we have another Squealer attempting to dissemble the truth and
>make people think they're misremembering things or that they never even
>happened at all.
>
>Are you sure it wasn't the penguins that took over the farm and turned
>into tyrants?
>
>Here it is in black and white. The guy is a racist, an ableist, a
>homophobe, and a bigot.
>
>https://news.sky.com/story/russell-t-davies-straight-actors-should-not-play-gay-characters-12185652
>
><<He said: "I'm not being woke about this... but I feel strongly that if
>I cast someone in a story, I am casting them to act as a lover, or an
>enemy, or someone on drugs or a criminal or a saint... they are NOT
>there to 'act gay' because 'acting gay' is a bunch of codes for a
>performance.
>
>"It's about authenticity, the taste of 2020.
>
>"You wouldn't cast someone able-bodied and put them in a wheelchair, you
>wouldn't black someone up. Authenticity is leading us to joyous places."
>
>High-profile examples of straight performers playing LGBTQ+ characters
>include Rami Malek's Oscar-winning portrayal of Freddie Mercury in
>Bohemian Rhapsody, and Taron Egerton's Golden Globe-winning turn as Sir
>Elton John in Rocketman.>>
>
>Now this degenerate prejudiced two faced serially lying woke bigot also
>wants to cast an actor with no legs and only one arm, to play Davros. Oh
>and I suppose that the actor must also have no hands either and also
>have a blue electronic eye.
>
>Can Daleks now only be played by mutants? Can Cybermen now only be
>played by people who resemble animated corpses augmented with bionics?
>
>Does Ncuti Gatwa also have to have an MD from a genuine real life
>medical school in order to play the Doctor? Does he have to also be an
>alien from another planet. No wait, not any more; he needs to be an
>abused child from another dimension that was repeatedly experimented on
>and murdered by its abductor, then brainwashed and turned into a mass
>murdering genocidal monster to do her bidding.
>

LEt's see how Ncuti works out.

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>
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>stands for." -William Shatner
>

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 by: The Doctor - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 14:40 UTC

In article <uilblq$2rkhg$1@dont-email.me>,
The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The almost-certainly-not-True Doctor wrote an
>> almost-certainly-not-truth:
>>
>>> On 10/11/2023 09:34, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So, it seems, the acting ability of the person might
>>>> be more important than their actual sexuality!
>>>>
>>>
>>> According to RTD it isn't. He says only gay actors can
>>> play gay roles.
>>>
>>
>> I’d love to know the full context to RTD’s remarks. It’s possible
>> you’re misinterpreting them. Or, knowing you, totally mis-
>> remembering them altogether.
>>
>
>He is pretty keen on the idea - here he is talking about his casting
>choices for “It’s a Sin”:
>
>He said: "I'm not being woke about this... but I feel strongly that if I
>cast someone in a story, I am casting them to act as a lover, or an enemy,
>or someone on drugs or a criminal or a saint... they are NOT there to 'act
>gay' because 'acting gay' is a bunch of codes for a performance.
>
>"It's about authenticity, the taste of 2020.
>
>"You wouldn't cast someone able-bodied and put them in a wheelchair, you
>wouldn't black someone up. Authenticity is leading us to joyous places."
>
>More recently he’s doubled down on it, but explaining why he’s such a
>strong advocate for it:
>
>/Begin quote:
>
>“I know a straight actor can portray a gay character brilliantly. I know
>certainly a gay actor can play a straight character brilliantly.
>
>“The reason why I come out with such a strong unilateral statement is
>simply to shift the argument.
>
>“There are 57 dramas out there being cast today without me in that room.
>So, one voice just tilts the argument, allows more people to be saying,
>‘Shall we cast gay here?'”
>
>Davies said he feels the need to keep advocating for the casting of LGBTQ+
>actors is because “no one else is saying it”.
>
>“I am noisy and I do get listened to,” he added.
>
>/End quote
>
>In an ideal world, we’d never notice or care.
>
>Personally I don’t fully support Davies’ position - the best actor for the
>role should get the role. Where the colour, sexuality and gender of the
>character is irrelevant - such as in the case of the Doctor - then ANYONE
>who’s a great actor should be in with a shout.
>
>When authenticity and a real feel for the sexuality of the character is
>required and that character is gay, then a gay actor is likely to find it
>easier to play the role. So looking for one makes casting choices easier.
>
>Otherwise - no. I don’t see it. But RTD still feels that gay people are a
>neglected minority in the entertainment world - so he pushes. Which is his
>right as we have free speech.
>

Anyone for RTD's take on Sodom and Gomorah?

>--
>"I'm not going to unwrite my good friend Chris Chibnall's work on 'The
>Timeless Children'. I'm not going to deny what he wrote. I'm going with it.
>It's absolutely fine." — Russell T. Davies

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 by: The Doctor - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 14:41 UTC

In article <uilbui$2rj8n$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>On 10/11/2023 09:55, Daniel65 wrote:
>> The True Doctor wrote on 10/11/23 10:00 am:
>>> On 09/11/2023 21:38, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>> On 09/11/2023 21:05, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 7:29:41 PM UTC-8, The True
>>>>>>> Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I said I wanted a male Doctor, not a queer Doctor. How is
>>>>>>>> a queer Doctor going to command authority in an episode
>>>>>>>> set in the 1950s where gays were banned from the military
>>>>>>>> and government offices? There's no means for suspending disbelief
>>>>>>>> and it's going to be more retarded woke
>>>>>>>> lecturing and sexual grooming of children.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, he is black, which will give him problems in the past also!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why just in the past? It seems from some views posted here
>>>>>> it's still a problem in 2023!
>>>>>
>>>>> Let him try going to Eastern Europe and see how people react to him.
>>>>> And him being gay compounds the problem even further. In fact he
>>>>> wouldn't last long in the Caribbean either, or Africa, where being
>>>>> gay is frowned upon by almost everyone.
>>>>
>>>> Ncuti Gatwa is an actor playing a part... actors who play Dick Turpin
>>>> don't have to be highwaymen in real life... what somebody does in
>>>> their bedroom is their own business. I couldn't give damn.
>>>
>>> According to woketards like RTD only actors who are gay can play gay
>>> roles.
>>
>> So does RTD also state the gay actors CANNOT play 'straight' characters??
>>
>
>To all intents and purposes he does as the retarded woke bigot also only
>thinks that disabled people in wheelchairs should only be played by
>disabled people in wheelchairs. I'd like to see this woke arsehole cast
>the next Davros.
>
>https://news.sky.com/story/russell-t-davies-straight-actors-should-not-play-gay-characters-12185652
>
>>> So he's implying that he's turned the character of the Doctor> Who.
>>> As you said, what somebody does in their bedroom is their own
>>> business, so stop fucking making it mine.
>>
>> How many times have we seen ANY bedroom action on 'Doctor Who'??
>>
>
>It doesn't have to be shown in the bedroom. You've got gays kisses butt
>bearing inserted all over the place, along with cat cat fuckers, and a
>character that did not but tell everyone she was a lesbian in every
>single episode. Besides which there was the scene with Martha and
>Tennant in bed with each other.
>
>>> I couldn't give damn, so why are you imposing your stupid retarded
>>> gay agenda on a majority of heterosexual viewers,
>>
>> I couldn't give damn, so why are you imposing your heterosexual standards
>> om *ALL* of society??
>
>The majority of the population, over 98.5% are heterosexual. Why should
>you impose a homosexual agenda on them? Go and make your own programmes
>about homosexuality and stop hijacking existing franchises and their
>audiences in order sexually groom children who you are holding capture.
>
>No wonder the show has lost 3/4 of its audience.
>
>>
>>> unless you are trying to sexually groom children Russell T. Davies,
>>> you pervert.
>>>
>>>> Ncuti Gatwa's sexuality - or skin colour - isn't going to define
>>>> whether Doctor Who as a TV show is any good to watch or not. He is
>>>> playing the
>>>
>>> Oh yes it is. The entire premise of Doctor Who is that the Doctor is
>>> constantly mistaken for a figure representing the establishment,
>>
>> Maybe, all alone the Doctor has been mistakenly taken as a Heterosexual
>> character.
>
>Stop your woke stupidity. The Doctor is and was first seen as a farther
>and the grandfather of Susan Foreman. That makes him heterosexual.
>

Logical!

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>
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>stands for." -William Shatner
>

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 by: The Doctor - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 14:41 UTC

In article <uilc5n$2rj8n$2@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>On 10/11/2023 03:44, Blueshirt wrote:
>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/11/2023 01:17, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>> The Doctor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <xn0o9536d352b9f005@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 7:29:41 PM UTC-8, The True
>>>>>>> Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 09/11/2023 00:33, Blueshirt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He's a male actor playing the Doctor. I thought that was what
>>>>>>>>> you wanted? Make your mind up!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I said I wanted a male Doctor, not a queer Doctor. How is a
>>>>>>>> queer Doctor going to command authority in an episode set in
>>>>>>>> the 1950s where gays were banned from the military and
>>>>>>>> government offices? There's no means for suspending disbelief
>>>>>>>> and it's going to be more retarded woke lecturing and sexual
>>>>>>>> grooming of children.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have an episode in which he encourages gays to fight for
>>>>>>> equality?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RTD could well do something like that...
>>>>>
>>>>> Imagine the rage.
>>>>
>>>> The rage at a gay person fighting for equality? Equality from
>>>> homophobic
>>>
>>> These people don't want equality. They want nothing less than total
>>> supremacy!
>>
>> They can't have total supremacy... if everyone in the world was Gay then
>> the Human race would die out!
>
>Tell that to the Feminazi lesbians that want to use eugenics to weaken
>and finally eliminate men and turn then into nothing more than sperm
>downers. Read Second Stage Lensmen and Children of the Lens by E E Smith
>to see their ultimate goal dipicted.
>

Nutcases for you.

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>
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>stands for." -William Shatner
>

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In article <uilctf$2rj8n$3@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>On 10/11/2023 13:36, The Last Doctor wrote:
>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The almost-certainly-not-True Doctor wrote an
>>> almost-certainly-not-truth:
>>>
>>>> On 10/11/2023 09:34, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So, it seems, the acting ability of the person might
>>>>> be more important than their actual sexuality!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> According to RTD it isn't. He says only gay actors can
>>>> play gay roles.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I’d love to know the full context to RTD’s remarks. It’s possible
>>> you’re misinterpreting them. Or, knowing you, totally mis-
>>> remembering them altogether.
>>>
>>
>> He is pretty keen on the idea - here he is talking about his casting
>> choices for “It’s a Sin”:
>>
>> He said: "I'm not being woke about this... but I feel strongly that if I
>> cast someone in a story, I am casting them to act as a lover, or an enemy,
>> or someone on drugs or a criminal or a saint... they are NOT there to 'act
>> gay' because 'acting gay' is a bunch of codes for a performance.
>>
>> "It's about authenticity, the taste of 2020.
>>
>> "You wouldn't cast someone able-bodied and put them in a wheelchair, you
>> wouldn't black someone up. Authenticity is leading us to joyous places."
>>
>> More recently he’s doubled down on it, but explaining why he’s such a
>> strong advocate for it:
>>
>> /Begin quote:
>>
>> “I know a straight actor can portray a gay character brilliantly. I know
>> certainly a gay actor can play a straight character brilliantly.
>>
>> “The reason why I come out with such a strong unilateral statement is
>> simply to shift the argument.
>>
>> “There are 57 dramas out there being cast today without me in that room.
>> So, one voice just tilts the argument, allows more people to be saying,
>> ‘Shall we cast gay here?'”
>>
>> Davies said he feels the need to keep advocating for the casting of LGBTQ+
>> actors is because “no one else is saying it”.
>>
>
>Nobody else? Hollywood is full off homosexuals and they appear in almost
>everything. RTD is a lying bigoted far left activist who wants more gays
>seen on television in order to sexually groom children when they are
>most vulnerable.
>
>> “I am noisy and I do get listened to,” he added.
>>
>> /End quote
>>
>> In an ideal world, we’d never notice or care.
>>
>> Personally I don’t fully support Davies’ position - the best actor for the
>> role should get the role. Where the colour, sexuality and gender of the
>> character is irrelevant - such as in the case of the Doctor - then ANYONE
>> who’s a great actor should be in with a shout.
>>
>> When authenticity and a real feel for the sexuality of the character
>is > required and that character is gay, then a gay actor is likely to
>find it
>> easier to play the role. So looking for one makes casting choices easier.
>>
>
>That is pure woke bullshit. Rami Malek won an Oscar for playing Freddie
>Mercury in Bohemian Rhapsody. Taron Egerton won a Golden Globe playing
>Sir Elton John in Rocketman. Tom Hanks won an Oscar for playing the gay
>character Andrew Beckett in Philadelphia.
>
>RTD is a bigot plain and simple.
>
>> Otherwise - no. I don’t see it. But RTD still feels that gay people are a
>> neglected minority in the entertainment world - so he pushes. Which is his
>> right as we have free speech.
>>
>
>The overwhelming majority of the population, over 98.5%, are
>heterosexual, and yet the entertainment world is filled to the brim with
>homosexuals.
>
>RTD isn't doing this for representation since gays have always been over
>represented. He's doing it to sexually children. There is no
>justification whatsoever for inserting gay characters and gay
>relationship in Doctor Who none of which have anything to do with the
>plot. Adult viewers can decide for themselves if they think a character
>is gay or not. They don't need it spelled out the them. So obvious
>target RTD is aiming at is children in order to groom them. He's even
>admitted to it himself.
>

saVILE syndrome at work.

>
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>stands for." -William Shatner
>

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Daniel65 wrote:
>
> Is Ncuti a good actor or not??

From what I have seen of him so far - and also from what my daughter says
(she watched him in that "Sex Education" thing on Netflix) - Ncuti a very
good actor. Whether he is Gay or not has nothing to do with it.

But how he will get on as The Doctor remains to be seen... I'm very
hopeful anyway. I am going in to the new era with an open mind.

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The True Doctor wrote:

> On 10/11/2023 09:34, Daniel65 wrote:
>
> > Is Ncuti a good actor or not??
>
> No. His range is limited to just gay and camp roles. That's all he's
> ever played and that's what we're going to get.

It seemed to work okay for Kenneth Williams!

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Subject: Re: Ncuti Gatwa says he's out of the closet
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 by: Blueshirt - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 20:08 UTC

solar penguin wrote:

>
> The almost-certainly-not-True Doctor wrote:
>
> > On 10/11/2023 09:34, Daniel65 wrote:
> >>
> >> So, it seems, the acting ability of the person might
> >> be more important than their actual sexuality!
> >
> > According to RTD it isn't. He says only gay actors can
> > play gay roles.
>
> I’d love to know the full context to RTD’s remarks. It’s possible
> you’re misinterpreting them. Or, knowing you, totally mis-
> remembering them altogether.

BUT, he has also claimed in other posts that RTD lies. So if RTD is a
liar, why believe his public utterances?

Agamemnon wants it both ways... not literally, of course! (Ooh err missus!)


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