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* PPB: It Is Not Always May / Henry Wadsworth LongfellowGeorge J. Dance
+* Re: PPB: It Is Not Always May / Henry Wadsworth LongfellowWill Dockery
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| |`* Re: PPB: It Is Not Always May / Henry Wadsworth LongfellowMichael Pendragon
| | `* Re: PPB: It Is Not Always May / Henry Wadsworth LongfellowVictor H.
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| +- Re: PPB: It Is Not Always May / Henry Wadsworth LongfellowWill Dockery
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+* Re: PPB: It Is Not Always May / Henry Wadsworth LongfellowWill Dockery
|`* Re: PPB: It Is Not Always May / Henry Wadsworth LongfellowMichael Pendragon
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|   `- Re: PPB: It Is Not Always May / Henry Wadsworth LongfellowW-Dockery
+* Re: PPB: It Is Not Always May / Henry Wadsworth LongfellowWill Dockery
|+- Re: PPB: It Is Not Always May / Henry Wadsworth LongfellowMichael Pendragon
|`* Re: PPB: It Is Not Always May / Henry Wadsworth LongfellowRocky Stoneberg
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+* Re: PPB: It Is Not Always May / Henry Wadsworth LongfellowWill Dockery
|+* Re: PPB: It Is Not Always May / Henry Wadsworth LongfellowEdward Rochester Esq.
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|`* Re: PPB: It Is Not Always May / Henry Wadsworth LongfellowVictor H.
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 by: W-Dockery - Mon, 20 Jun 2022 15:01 UTC

Rocky Stoneberg wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, Pendragon, but many of the giants you listed are fading into obscurity.

>> Ask the average person an find out for yourself.

>> HTH and HAND.

> Quite sad but yes true....

As you pointed out, modern audiences are more likely to know poetry in Hip Hop and Rap forms.

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 by: Victor H. - Wed, 22 Jun 2022 19:30 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:
>
> At least you admit now that most modern readers don't know much, if anything, about poetry, Pendragon.

Unless it is perhaps Hip Hop poetry or Drake... for two examples....

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 by: W-Dockery - Thu, 23 Jun 2022 00:12 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-05-29 2:09 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 12:06:30 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>
>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>>> It Is Not Always May, by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
>>> [...]
>>> Maiden, that read'st this simple rhyme,
>>> Enjoy thy youth, it will not stay;
>>> Enjoy the fragrance of thy prime,
>>> For O! it is not always May!
>>> [...]
>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/05/it-is-not-always-may-henry-wadsworth.html
>>
>> Okay, this is interesting[...] even [with] such a famous poet as Longfellow, how well known is his poetry to [the] general public of modern times?

> I edited your question, because some people on the group seemed to have
> difficulty understanding it.

> I suspect the answer is very little. I know a few Longfellow poems, but
> I could state you only a few lines from memory. "Footprints on the sands
> of time" from "Psalm of Life", and almost an entire stanza of Paul Revere:

> Listen, my children, and you shall hear
> Of the midnight ride of Paul Revere.
> It was [something, something] in '75;
> Hardly a man is still alive
> Who remembers that famous day and year."

> Even poetry students don't encounter his work: he's in none of the
> anthologies I own, for example. I suspect that's a style thing; he wrote
> (1) popular poems with easily-understood messages, in (2) formal verse,
> both of which went out of style over 100 years ago. Why today's
> academics are still using stylistic judgements from 100 years ago,
> rather than making their own, is more of a mystery.

Well put, George.

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 by: Victor H. - Sat, 25 Jun 2022 21:11 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:
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> Again , not known to the general public = obscure.

> HTH and HAND.

> 🙂

Quite true....

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 by: W-Dockery - Sat, 25 Jun 2022 22:53 UTC

Victor H. wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> At least you admit now that most modern readers don't know much, if anything, about poetry, Pendragon.

> Unless it is perhaps Hip Hop poetry or Drake... for two examples....

True.

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 by: W-Dockery - Thu, 7 Jul 2022 16:37 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> Yes, not known to the general public = obscure.

>> HTH and HAND.

> As most poetry is now to the general public in the modern age....

Exceptions being Hip Hop and slam poets.

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 by: W.Dockery - Tue, 12 Jul 2022 04:03 UTC

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 12:28:36 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> Again , not known to the general public = obscure.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

> No Donkey, it doesn't.

Yes, monkey, it does.

HTH and HAND.

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 by: Victor H. - Fri, 15 Jul 2022 20:15 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:
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> Again , not known to the general public = obscure.

> HTH and HAND.

> 🙂

You nailed it....

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 by: Victor H. - Sun, 17 Jul 2022 20:08 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:
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> Again , not known to the general public = obscure.

> HTH and HAND.

> 🙂

Well put and spot on...

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 by: W.Dockery - Mon, 25 Jul 2022 00:30 UTC

Victor H. wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> Again , not known to the general public = obscure.

>> HTH and HAND.

>>

> Well put and spot on...

I just call it like I see it.

Re: PPB: It Is Not Always May / Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 20:25:31 +0000
Subject: Re: PPB: It Is Not Always May / Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
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 by: General-Zod - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 20:25 UTC

George J. Dance wrote:
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> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> It Is Not Always May, by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
> [...]
> Maiden, that read'st this simple rhyme,
> Enjoy thy youth, it will not stay;
> Enjoy the fragrance of thy prime,
> For O! it is not always May!
> [...]
> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/05/it-is-not-always-may-henry-wadsworth.html

Another read, quite enjoyable...!

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