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 by: MELMOTH - Thu, 12 Aug 2021 23:38 UTC

https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/

Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
anything on this forum, eh...
Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
idiots...

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On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
>
> Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> anything on this forum, eh...
> Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> idiots...

(The following Youtube upload is barely a week old and already has over 1.7 million views and over 11K comments):

Why Afghanistan is impossible to conquer

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On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 5:39:09 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> > https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
> >
> > Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> > anything on this forum, eh...
> > Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> > One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> > it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> > idiots...
> (The following Youtube upload is barely a week old and already has over 1.7 million views and over 11K comments):
>
> Why Afghanistan is impossible to conquer

Tonight, new book featured on NEWSHOUR:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-did-the-us-lose-in-afghanistan-a-new-book-explores-decades-of-mistakes?utm_medium=event&utm_source=playlist__link

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On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
>
> Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> anything on this forum, eh...
> Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> idiots...

Does the following also apply to Afghanistan and Iraq?:

- ...The war in Vietnam only occurred because some people thought they were God.

https://sojo.net/articles/who-gets-play-god-revisiting-apocalypse-now

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On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 5:51:49 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> > https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
> >
> > Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> > anything on this forum, eh...
> > Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> > One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> > it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> > idiots...
> Does the following also apply to Afghanistan and Iraq?:
>
> - ...The war in Vietnam only occurred because some people thought they were God.
>
> https://sojo.net/articles/who-gets-play-god-revisiting-apocalypse-now

Does this also apply to Afghanistan?:

- ...Military force--especially when wielded by an outside power-- cannot bring order in a country that cannot govern itself.

Robert McNamara

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Op vrijdag 13 augustus 2021 om 01:39:03 UTC+2 schreef MELMOTH:
> https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
>
> Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> anything on this forum, eh...
> Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> idiots...

<g> I'd rather not listen to 'Chosta' but like you, I don't understand American foreign policy.

Henk

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Op vrijdag 13 augustus 2021 om 10:16:13 UTC+2 schreef gggg gggg:
> On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 5:51:49 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> > > https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
> > >
> > > Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> > > anything on this forum, eh...
> > > Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> > > One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> > > it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> > > idiots...
> > Does the following also apply to Afghanistan and Iraq?:
> >
> > - ...The war in Vietnam only occurred because some people thought they were God.
> >
> > https://sojo.net/articles/who-gets-play-god-revisiting-apocalypse-now
> Does this also apply to Afghanistan?:
>
> - ...Military force--especially when wielded by an outside power-- cannot bring order in a country that cannot govern itself.
>
> Robert McNamara

McNamara attributes the failure (a euphemism) in Vietnam to a universal law. In doing so, he only makes matters worse. The US are unaware of universal laws or do not believe they apply to them.

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On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 5:22:01 AM UTC-4, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
> Op vrijdag 13 augustus 2021 om 10:16:13 UTC+2 schreef gggg gggg:
> > On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 5:51:49 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > Does the following also apply to Afghanistan and Iraq?:
> > >
> > > - ...The war in Vietnam only occurred because some people thought they were God.
> > >
> > > https://sojo.net/articles/who-gets-play-god-revisiting-apocalypse-now
> > Does this also apply to Afghanistan?:
> >
> > - ...Military force--especially when wielded by an outside power--
> > cannot bring order in a country that cannot govern itself.
> >
> > Robert McNamara
> McNamara attributes the failure (a euphemism) in Vietnam to a
> universal law. In doing so, he only makes matters worse. The US
> are unaware of universal laws or do not believe they apply to them.

The US is in approximately the same stage as the Roman Empire
in the 3rd century AD.

dk

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 by: HT - Fri, 13 Aug 2021 09:42 UTC

Op vrijdag 13 augustus 2021 om 11:37:29 UTC+2 schreef dan....@gmail.com:
> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 5:22:01 AM UTC-4, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
> > Op vrijdag 13 augustus 2021 om 10:16:13 UTC+2 schreef gggg gggg:
> > > On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 5:51:49 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > Does the following also apply to Afghanistan and Iraq?:
> > > >
> > > > - ...The war in Vietnam only occurred because some people thought they were God.
> > > >
> > > > https://sojo.net/articles/who-gets-play-god-revisiting-apocalypse-now
> > > Does this also apply to Afghanistan?:
> > >
> > > - ...Military force--especially when wielded by an outside power--
> > > cannot bring order in a country that cannot govern itself.
> > >
> > > Robert McNamara
> > McNamara attributes the failure (a euphemism) in Vietnam to a
> > universal law. In doing so, he only makes matters worse. The US
> > are unaware of universal laws or do not believe they apply to them.
> The US is in approximately the same stage as the Roman Empire
> in the 3rd century AD.
>
> dk

Good to hear from you!

Henk

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 by: MELMOTH - Fri, 13 Aug 2021 11:16 UTC

HT a formulé ce vendredi :
> Good to hear from you!

Shit...I'm going to have to throw out all the Arrau recordings I bought
again...

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On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 7:16:06 AM UTC-4, MELMOTH wrote:
> HT a formulé ce vendredi :
> > Good to hear from you!
> Shit...I'm going to have to
> throw out all the Arrau
> recordings I bought
> again...

You don't have to. You
can give them to charity,
donate them to a library,
or sell them to someone
even dumber and deafer
than you! Sell them to
Oscar.

Or you could give them
to Mike Lindell, who
desperately needs
some evidence the
presidential election
was stolen.

dk

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On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 2:22:01 AM UTC-7, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
> Op vrijdag 13 augustus 2021 om 10:16:13 UTC+2 schreef gggg gggg:
> > On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 5:51:49 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> > > > https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
> > > >
> > > > Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> > > > anything on this forum, eh...
> > > > Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> > > > One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> > > > it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> > > > idiots...
> > > Does the following also apply to Afghanistan and Iraq?:
> > >
> > > - ...The war in Vietnam only occurred because some people thought they were God.
> > >
> > > https://sojo.net/articles/who-gets-play-god-revisiting-apocalypse-now
> > Does this also apply to Afghanistan?:
> >
> > - ...Military force--especially when wielded by an outside power-- cannot bring order in a country that cannot govern itself.
> >
> > Robert McNamara
> McNamara attributes the failure (a euphemism) in Vietnam to a universal law. In doing so, he only makes matters worse. The US are unaware of universal laws or do not believe they apply to them.

American exceptionalism?

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Op vrijdag 13 augustus 2021 om 18:38:37 UTC+2 schreef gggg gggg:
> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 2:22:01 AM UTC-7, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
> > Op vrijdag 13 augustus 2021 om 10:16:13 UTC+2 schreef gggg gggg:
> > > On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 5:51:49 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> > > > > https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
> > > > >
> > > > > Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> > > > > anything on this forum, eh...
> > > > > Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> > > > > One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> > > > > it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> > > > > idiots...
> > > > Does the following also apply to Afghanistan and Iraq?:
> > > >
> > > > - ...The war in Vietnam only occurred because some people thought they were God.
> > > >
> > > > https://sojo.net/articles/who-gets-play-god-revisiting-apocalypse-now
> > > Does this also apply to Afghanistan?:
> > >
> > > - ...Military force--especially when wielded by an outside power-- cannot bring order in a country that cannot govern itself.
> > >
> > > Robert McNamara
> > McNamara attributes the failure (a euphemism) in Vietnam to a universal law. In doing so, he only makes matters worse. The US are unaware of universal laws or do not believe they apply to them.
> American exceptionalism?

<g> In a way, yes. Decades ago, I read Graham Greene's "The Silent American". Today I was reminded of it thanks to an article on Afghanistan (did you post that?). In the early years, Karzai had an agreement with the Taliban, but had to cancel it because Rumsfeld didn't want Americans involved in a deal with terrorists. The silent American in Greene's book tried to prevent a deal with the communists in Vietnam (iirc).

Henk

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 by: Owen - Fri, 13 Aug 2021 18:45 UTC

On 8/13/21 7:16 AM, MELMOTH wrote:
> HT a formulé ce vendredi :
>> Good to hear from you!
>
> Shit...I'm going to have to throw out all the Arrau recordings I bought
> again...
>

Best comment of the month above!!

-Owen

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 by: Owen - Fri, 13 Aug 2021 18:46 UTC

On 8/13/21 5:37 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 5:22:01 AM UTC-4, hvt...@xs4all.nl wrote:
>> Op vrijdag 13 augustus 2021 om 10:16:13 UTC+2 schreef gggg gggg:
>>> On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 5:51:49 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
>>>> Does the following also apply to Afghanistan and Iraq?:
>>>>
>>>> - ...The war in Vietnam only occurred because some people thought they were God.
>>>>
>>>> https://sojo.net/articles/who-gets-play-god-revisiting-apocalypse-now
>>> Does this also apply to Afghanistan?:
>>>
>>> - ...Military force--especially when wielded by an outside power--
>>> cannot bring order in a country that cannot govern itself.
>>>
>>> Robert McNamara
>> McNamara attributes the failure (a euphemism) in Vietnam to a
>> universal law. In doing so, he only makes matters worse. The US
>> are unaware of universal laws or do not believe they apply to them.
>
> The US is in approximately the same stage as the Roman Empire
> in the 3rd century AD.
>

....and on the Fifth week, he rose again from the dead.

-Owen

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This would never have happened if Joe Biden was president.

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On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
>
> Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> anything on this forum, eh...
> Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> idiots...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/what-should-the-us-role-in-afghanistan-be-now?utm_medium=event&utm_source=playlist__link

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On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
>
> Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> anything on this forum, eh...
> Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> idiots...

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/14/1027375958/taliban-afghanistan-takeover-the-world-humanitarian-china-pakistan

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On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
>
> Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> anything on this forum, eh...
> Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> idiots...

According to this:

- ...The 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, saying that the invasion was ordered by aging Politburo leaders who would not live to deal with the invasion’s consequences.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?206557-1/lenins-brain#

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On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
>
> Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> anything on this forum, eh...
> Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> idiots...

Is this what Afghanistan's invaders were after? (recent Y. upload):

Afghanistan sits on $3 trillion in minerals

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On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
>
> Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> anything on this forum, eh...
> Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> idiots...

Saigon revisited?:

https://news.google.com/search?q=saigon&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

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On Sunday, August 15, 2021 at 10:53:13 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> > https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
> >
> > Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> > anything on this forum, eh...
> > Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> > One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> > it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> > idiots...
> Saigon revisited?:
>
> https://news.google.com/search?q=saigon&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

According to this recent article:

- Over four administrations, American policy in Afghanistan has veered from incoherent to counterproductive.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-08-15/the-u-s-can-t-walk-away-from-afghanistan

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On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 5:39:09 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> > https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
> >
> > Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> > anything on this forum, eh...
> > Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> > One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> > it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> > idiots...
> (The following Youtube upload is barely a week old and already has over 1.7 million views and over 11K comments):
>
> Why Afghanistan is impossible to conquer

It now has over 2M views and over 13K comments.

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On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
>
> Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> anything on this forum, eh...
> Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> idiots...

According to this:

- ...The [1979 Soviet] invasion [of Afghanistan] was ordered by aging Politburo leaders who would not live to deal with the invasion’s consequences.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?206557-1/lenins-brain#

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 by: gggg gggg - Mon, 16 Aug 2021 06:18 UTC

On Sunday, August 15, 2021 at 11:17:54 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> > https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/057385-001-A/vietnam-1-9/
> >
> > Relation with the Music ?...None...But as here we can talk about
> > anything on this forum, eh...
> > Or listen to Chosta's "Leningrad" at the same time ?...
> > One would have thought that the United States would have learned from
> > it...Well no...They did it again in Afghanistan and Iraq, those
> > idiots...
> According to this:
>
> - ...The [1979 Soviet] invasion [of Afghanistan] was ordered by aging Politburo leaders who would not live to deal with the invasion’s consequences.
>
> https://www.c-span.org/video/?206557-1/lenins-brain#

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Why did the Soviets lose in Afghanistan?

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