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 by: Owen - Mon, 27 Sep 2021 19:51 UTC

On 9/24/21 7:48 PM, Bob Harper wrote:
> On 9/24/21 10:28 AM, Frank Berger wrote:
>> On 9/24/2021 12:59 PM, Bob Harper wrote:
>>>>
>>> I wonder if there hasn't been some confusion here 9may be mine, as
>>> Ive' been dealing with COVID), but are we sure we're talking about
>>> John WILSON (of whom I know nothing) and not John NELSON (the Berlioz
>>> specialist)?
>>>
>>> Bob Harper
>>
>>
>> Tell us about your Covid.  Not too sick, I hope?  Vaccinated, I
>> assume? How long ago?  You are data. My wife and I got our 3rd Moderna
>> shot recently.  Side effect was more significant than the 1st two
>> shots.  Bad enough that I had to leave service the first night of Rosh
>> Hashana and missed the first day.  Poor planning on my part.
>
> Thanks to all for all the good wishes.
> Vaccinated? Yes. Pfizer 1/28 and 2/17
> Symptoms arrived last Saturday 9/18. Extreme weakness (couldn't get out
> of a chair w/o my wife's assistance; very tentative balance
> (unsurprising); most embarrassingly, loss of bladder control (sorry, but
> you asked and I'm just reporting). No headache, no loss of taste or
> smell, though some tastes are a bit altered from normal right now.
> Cough, but not chest rattling. Got worse (or at least seemed to; maybe I
> was just getting impatient). Got tested on Tuesday, results Wed
> confirmed. Scheduled for monoclonal antibody treatment today (completed;
> so far so good. In the meantime, started taking prednisone (prescribed)
> on Thursday to excellent effect--the stuff's miraculous over the short
> haul. Vitals are almost back to normal--O2 sat a bit low but getting
> better.
> I'm convinced that had I not been vaccinated, I would be in the hospital
> by now, but who knows? I'll take the booster, but the when is a question
> for my physician. In the meantime, I hope there's as big a push for the
> rapid development or recognition of good therapeutics as there was for
> the vaccine, but I am not sanguine about that.
>

Glad to hear you're feeling better, and hope you have a speedy and full
recovery!

-Owen

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 by: number_six - Mon, 27 Sep 2021 20:56 UTC

On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 11:21:04 AM UTC-7, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 7:32:48 PM UTC+10, Herman wrote:
> > On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 9:33:11 AM UTC+2, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Or Herbert Blomstedt? Still a marvellous conductor judging by his recent concert with the BPO, but he's not exactly going to put the bop in the bop-si-bop-si-bop is he?
> > >
> > That was the Vienna Phil.
> It was the Berlin Phil, Herman, on 12 June 2021, with Blomstedt conducting Sibelius 4 and Brahms 3. Streamed from the BPO's Digital Concert Hall. The VPO lacks the ram in the ram-a-dam-a-ding-dong.
>
> Andrew Clarke
> Canberra

But who put the BOMP in the Boston Modern Orchestra Project?

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 by: Frank Berger - Mon, 27 Sep 2021 21:46 UTC

On 9/27/2021 2:21 PM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 7:32:48 PM UTC+10, Herman wrote:
>> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 9:33:11 AM UTC+2, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Or Herbert Blomstedt? Still a marvellous conductor judging by his recent concert with the BPO, but he's not exactly going to put the bop in the bop-si-bop-si-bop is he?
>>>
>> That was the Vienna Phil.
>
> It was the Berlin Phil, Herman, on 12 June 2021, with Blomstedt conducting Sibelius 4 and Brahms 3. Streamed from the BPO's Digital Concert Hall. The VPO lacks the ram in the ram-a-dam-a-ding-dong.
>
> Andrew Clarke
> Canberra
>

That's because they don't have the guy who made my baby fall in love with me.

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On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 5:49:57 AM UTC+10, John Fowler wrote:

> Is Isidore Godfrey available?

I think there may be some confusion here. Little Isidore did not live in Haarlem. He lived in Brooklyn, as did Spanish John and Harry the Horse.

The good news is that Sam the Gonoph still has duckets for the Swing With Sweelinck Festival at the Delft Superbowl.

Andrew Clarke
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On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 5:51:28 AM UTC+10, Owen wrote:
> On 9/24/21 7:48 PM, Bob Harper wrote:
> > On 9/24/21 10:28 AM, Frank Berger wrote:
> >> On 9/24/2021 12:59 PM, Bob Harper wrote:
> >>>>
> >>> I wonder if there hasn't been some confusion here 9may be mine, as
> >>> Ive' been dealing with COVID), but are we sure we're talking about
> >>> John WILSON (of whom I know nothing) and not John NELSON (the Berlioz
> >>> specialist)?
> >>>
> >>> Bob Harper
> >>
> >>
> >> Tell us about your Covid. Not too sick, I hope? Vaccinated, I
> >> assume? How long ago? You are data. My wife and I got our 3rd Moderna
> >> shot recently. Side effect was more significant than the 1st two
> >> shots. Bad enough that I had to leave service the first night of Rosh
> >> Hashana and missed the first day. Poor planning on my part.
> >
> > Thanks to all for all the good wishes.
> > Vaccinated? Yes. Pfizer 1/28 and 2/17
> > Symptoms arrived last Saturday 9/18. Extreme weakness (couldn't get out
> > of a chair w/o my wife's assistance; very tentative balance
> > (unsurprising); most embarrassingly, loss of bladder control (sorry, but
> > you asked and I'm just reporting). No headache, no loss of taste or
> > smell, though some tastes are a bit altered from normal right now.
> > Cough, but not chest rattling. Got worse (or at least seemed to; maybe I
> > was just getting impatient). Got tested on Tuesday, results Wed
> > confirmed. Scheduled for monoclonal antibody treatment today (completed;
> > so far so good. In the meantime, started taking prednisone (prescribed)
> > on Thursday to excellent effect--the stuff's miraculous over the short
> > haul. Vitals are almost back to normal--O2 sat a bit low but getting
> > better.
> > I'm convinced that had I not been vaccinated, I would be in the hospital
> > by now, but who knows? I'll take the booster, but the when is a question
> > for my physician. In the meantime, I hope there's as big a push for the
> > rapid development or recognition of good therapeutics as there was for
> > the vaccine, but I am not sanguine about that.
> >
>
> Glad to hear you're feeling better, and hope you have a speedy and full
> recovery!
>
> -Owen

Meanwhile, as your sister-in-law has possibly told you, the Premier of NSW has announced that Covid restrictions in that state are to be wound down in three stages beginning next month, so she'll be happier too.

I was interested to read that two people who went on a there's-no-such-thing-as-Covid-it's-all-a-plot-by-Bill-Gates demonstration in Melbourne are now in hospital. And guess what they've got?

Andrew Clarke
Canberra

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On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 7:46:35 AM UTC+10, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 9/27/2021 2:21 PM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
> > On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 7:32:48 PM UTC+10, Herman wrote:
> >> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 9:33:11 AM UTC+2, andrewc...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Or Herbert Blomstedt? Still a marvellous conductor judging by his recent concert with the BPO, but he's not exactly going to put the bop in the bop-si-bop-si-bop is he?
> >>>
> >> That was the Vienna Phil.
> >
> > It was the Berlin Phil, Herman, on 12 June 2021, with Blomstedt conducting Sibelius 4 and Brahms 3. Streamed from the BPO's Digital Concert Hall. The VPO lacks the ram in the ram-a-dam-a-ding-dong.
> >
> > Andrew Clarke
> > Canberra
> >
> That's because they don't have the guy who made my baby fall in love with me.

It would, however, be interesting to see a performance of Gilbert and Sullivan sung in Dutch, especially the the patter songs, like "Goedemorgen, 's Gravenhage, hoe gaat het med U?".

Andrew Clarke
Canberra

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On 9/28/21 12:37 AM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 5:51:28 AM UTC+10, Owen wrote:
>> On 9/24/21 7:48 PM, Bob Harper wrote:
>>> On 9/24/21 10:28 AM, Frank Berger wrote:
>>>> On 9/24/2021 12:59 PM, Bob Harper wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if there hasn't been some confusion here 9may be mine, as
>>>>> Ive' been dealing with COVID), but are we sure we're talking about
>>>>> John WILSON (of whom I know nothing) and not John NELSON (the Berlioz
>>>>> specialist)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Harper
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tell us about your Covid. Not too sick, I hope? Vaccinated, I
>>>> assume? How long ago? You are data. My wife and I got our 3rd Moderna
>>>> shot recently. Side effect was more significant than the 1st two
>>>> shots. Bad enough that I had to leave service the first night of Rosh
>>>> Hashana and missed the first day. Poor planning on my part.
>>>
>>> Thanks to all for all the good wishes.
>>> Vaccinated? Yes. Pfizer 1/28 and 2/17
>>> Symptoms arrived last Saturday 9/18. Extreme weakness (couldn't get out
>>> of a chair w/o my wife's assistance; very tentative balance
>>> (unsurprising); most embarrassingly, loss of bladder control (sorry, but
>>> you asked and I'm just reporting). No headache, no loss of taste or
>>> smell, though some tastes are a bit altered from normal right now.
>>> Cough, but not chest rattling. Got worse (or at least seemed to; maybe I
>>> was just getting impatient). Got tested on Tuesday, results Wed
>>> confirmed. Scheduled for monoclonal antibody treatment today (completed;
>>> so far so good. In the meantime, started taking prednisone (prescribed)
>>> on Thursday to excellent effect--the stuff's miraculous over the short
>>> haul. Vitals are almost back to normal--O2 sat a bit low but getting
>>> better.
>>> I'm convinced that had I not been vaccinated, I would be in the hospital
>>> by now, but who knows? I'll take the booster, but the when is a question
>>> for my physician. In the meantime, I hope there's as big a push for the
>>> rapid development or recognition of good therapeutics as there was for
>>> the vaccine, but I am not sanguine about that.
>>>
>>
>> Glad to hear you're feeling better, and hope you have a speedy and full
>> recovery!
>>
>> -Owen
>
> Meanwhile, as your sister-in-law has possibly told you, the Premier of NSW has announced that Covid restrictions in that state are to be wound down in three stages beginning next month, so she'll be happier too.
>
> I was interested to read that two people who went on a there's-no-such-thing-as-Covid-it's-all-a-plot-by-Bill-Gates demonstration in Melbourne are now in hospital. And guess what they've got?
>
> Andrew Clarke
> Canberra
>
It's my daughter, actually. And yes, she'll be quite happy to have her
daughter back in school. A little bit of grandma school (my wife's a
retired elementary teacher) was fun, but it wore this pretty quickly.

Bob Harper

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